Rachel Maddow Show: Glenn Greenwald on Cheney's Fear Mongering
By Heather Friday Feb 06, 2009 5:00amGlenn Greenwald on Cheney's fear mongering interview he gave to his new BFF's over at Politico. I believe Glenn is right and that Cheney is trying to lay the ground work for the media to attack President Obama and blame him if we are attacked again.
Login or Register to post comments.
If Heather? If Lord Cheney says there will be an attack, there will be an attack. No conspiracies necessary.
9/11 was an inside job and this guy was involved, thats not a theory either. There as testamony at the 9/11 commission hearings that a person who was directly talking to Cheney said that Cheney wanted the attack to succeed.
The majority of americans believe 911 was Bush/Cheney's false flag operation (which included critical Enron files in building 7 which would probably provide many clues about this economic meltdown which both Bush & Cheney helped to perpetuate).
If we trace back everything Obama has had to overturn due to illegitimacy and unconstitutionality, it all distills down to "excessive imperial power" created in the name of 911's subsequent "war on terror" - every last abuse, every last breach of the law. Without 911, there would be no Iraq War, no illegal spying on americans, no renditions, no torture of prisoners....
Just imagine where we would be without a 911 and without a Bush or Cheney?
Surely, we wouldn't be in this horrible mess!
Cheney is one twisted bird and a war criminal. Just like Kissenger nobody goes after him. Your post is bang on.
The spy program was active during Clinton too. Not as wide spread. I am pretty sure you had to be a criminal of some kind, and be approved to violate constitutional rights against each individual. This will never stop.
Check out the
Mineta's PEOC testimony On this page, download and listen.
http://www.********.org/article.php?story=200...
For some reason the link was censored just put ******** where the stars are. Lee Hamilton questions this guy and what he says is rather shocking...well not really when it comes to a sicko like Cheney.
Well for some reason I am being censored so I can't show you the video but I am sure you can figure it out. Why this site would want to protect Cheney from you guys I don't know..oh well.
There was a time when C & L wouldn't allow any mention of Sept 11th. They seemed to have backed off on that a little lately. 75% of the rest of the world is calling it bullshit now and more Americans are waking up to the reality of it everyday. The only conspiracy to me is the enduring coverup .Im not holding my breath for justice though. The USA just couldn't handle the truth about it so the scumbags will likely walk.I dont see Obama ripping the gag orders off the NYPD,NYFD and Port Cops. Add in a complicit bought and paid for media too. The 911 Omission was a laughable farce too. And to think all the bullshit that has transpired since was built on a huge lie too. Sad
Wow I did not know that. Those agencies have a gag order not to talk about it? Is the gag order public?
The NYPD,NYFD and Port Authority Cops had serious "national security" aka treason gag orders slapped on them by Bush the day after. They all had plenty to say on 911 but were "no comments" afterward.My hope is that those who are dying and no longer afraid will begin to talk in the face of it before long. Over a 100 firefighters are on tape testifying to hearing secondary explosions going off all over the place too. Follow the money, embrace the science..its all becomes quite clear.
deep down because they know that "conspiracy theorists" are correct and for some reason, a majority can't deal with the truth. They know their gov't are a bunch of lying cheating scumbags that kill untold millions on a regular basis, but don't think they'd ever do it on their own soil.
lying cheating scumbags is an understatement.
the government deserves to be.....
1776.
check out this:http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/24-japan-questions-9-11-and-the-global-war-on-terror/
If Lord Cheney says there will be an attack, there will be an attack. No conspiracies necessary.
I don't think so.
Cheney and WPE have done everything they could think of to "get attacked again."
They have been yearning for it for eight years.
Their philosophy states that they will always win every argument so long as the citizens are in a state of heightened fight or flight response.
Straight from the biggest Dick of all!
I know this is off-topic, but could someone please stuff a dirty diaper in Ben Nelson's DINO mouth. What a flaming imbecile. Mr. Pres., you need to tell this guy to STFU!
{ Deleted, I do get tired of this all caps stuff. SiteMonitor}
What are you trying to say?
Fri, 02/06/2009 - 05:16 — surfjac
{ Deleted, I do get tired of this all caps stuff. SiteMonitor}
Then you must not be balding yet.
..but isn't it about time that Progressives all over the world start exerting extreme influence on the current administration and agencies all over the world to go after these war criminals? Does it have to happen again before we say enough? Does just because it was an "american president" who committed these crimes, it means "free pass"? You do the crime, you do the time! I resent the fact that so many Americans have lost their job while we're paying the war criminals of the Bush Administration pensions! They are criminals and they should be treated as such.
I'm just sayin'!
Hell fuckin yeah!
As far as I'm concerned, the past administration are enemies of the state, and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
Then, hung by the neck until dead.
they should get life. put them on an open yard, no PC. let them walk with inmates. bet they don't sleep at night.
here's the REAL reason cheney wouldn't let bush close gitmo and is doing everything possible to keep obama from closing it;
haliburton has a huge profit model counting on gitmo
THAT'S the reason and I WISH rachael and keith had that ammo
if someone has a way to get info to them please do so
so rachael asks;
"why is cheney speaking to the press, something he HATES to do?"
the reason, as you see in my link, is that he will lose millions of dollars if gitmo is closed
I really WISH she had that ammo
He wants Obama to continue Bush policies so that they will not be able to prosecute him.
If they ever do indict and convict this evil bastard, he will just pull a Ken Lay on us.
any one see kenney boys body. this asshole is alive some where spending our money.
Are you kidding me? Scary FX? Spooky graphics? A megaphone? Feeling upstaged by Glenn Beck's "Communist" graphics from yesterday, Maddow?
Is this how you Americans prefer to receive your important political news? From someone in a clown suit with a squeaky toy?
This is all getting a little pathetic.
Here, Here.
Cut out the cheezy Rachel.
Maddow is using satire.
Cheney is dead serious.
If Cheyney is in fact "dead serious", would it be a violation of the commenting policy if I expressed a willingness to accept the latter so long as the former was assured?
... as to which happens first: Mars invading Earth, or Dick Cheney croaking.
I can't imagine that a man who is so angry as to have a perpetual sneer on his face is due to have a long life, pacemaker or not.
Those types tend live for fuckin EVER!
who have this much bent up anger have a strok.
Cheney is no different than Rush Meatbaugh, he wants the dems and in particular Barach Obama to fail.
I believe that Cheney, Meatbaugh, and other Nihilist Repugs would in reality derive pleasure in seeing such an event take place.
Obama needs to spell it out, without this bipartisan anchor-dragging crap dogging the stimulus package.
Illegal, warrantless wiretaps and pretending torture isn't torture are not the answer.
We need defenses that are in-depth, flexible, and fail-safe.
In-depth. That means not pinning our national security on the hopes that we catch the magic phone call from Ahmed to Mohammed, or that we're going to pull off a Jack Bauer and stop the 'ticking time bomb.'
Flexible. Sports teams don't park their players in one spot for the whole game and expect to win; neither should we.
Fail-Safe. As opposed to 'fail badly,' which is where Dick Cheney's strategies have us: if we don't do x, OMG! T3Rr0Ri$Ts!!!!. We need to have an infrastructure in place that can respond effectively and efficiently to any major disaster, not just terrorism. We haven't done this, and the result was Hurricane Katrina.
And, no, we don't particularly need new bureaucracies and sweeping powers that trample Constitutional protections and civil liberties to do this.
surrogate talking points..
1) It is in bad taste for a former VP to speak to the press regarding issues faced by the current Administration. Dick Cheney really is embarrassing himself, and the country.
2) Is Dick threatening the country?
3) Is Dick trying to deflect criticism of his own Administration if an attack does occur?
4) Does Dick Cheney have business interests which may be damaged by the Obama policies...is that why he is upset...the people need to know.
5) For a man and a party so in love with respecting the Executive Branch and the offic of the President...Dick Cheney and the GOP are showing terrible disrespect of the office, the President, the country...why oh WHY do Republicans hate America!!!
Reagan-Era conservatism posits that government, especially big government, is part of the problem, not the solution. It's too intrusive.
How, then, are conservative values served by a government-run, intrusive program of surveillance that disregards Constitutional protections?
Cheney is just so paranoid that he thinks if he's not running the show, we're all gonna die.
I'm typing this with my new little doggie laying here at my feet. God he's so sweet and beautiful too. If I could have built a dog to order, this would have been that dog.
Does he still have that new doggie smell?
He's two years old. Let's just say he is a recycled little dog from a rescue group. His foster mom did put something on him that smells nice.
Wish I had a big enough apt. to get a dawg... :(
Two things a man needs in his life...a truck, and a dawg.
it's "when" the next attack comes.
Cheney knows. He managed the last one.
And they're not setting Obama up for criticism, they are setting him up for ... yes, you got it...IMPEACHMENT...
For 'treason' of 'letting' another attack happen...
Hide and watch
I guess that depends on who you believe pulled off the attacks on 911.
Cheney is a piece of shit. Amazing how much media is giving these fucktards a soapbox to jump on and spew their utter bullshit.
Cheney's post hoc, ergo propter hoc doesn't become valid even if there IS another attack.
There is no evidence that the Bush Administration's foreign and national security policies have made us safer. We need an honest discussion and appraisal of the risks; sneering cowards hiding in bunkers, particularly sneering cowards who couldn't be arsed to give Richard Clarke the time of day, should be prosecuted, not praised or treated as having a valid point of view.
This will never change as long as we're in the Middle East. So it's a pretty safe bet that it will happen again. Hopefully, they won't succeed.
You're closer to the mark by connecting terrorist inclination to attack America to our foreign policy, but those plans are irrelevant.
We need to have a long-overdue discussion on security, and put the Jack Bauer Fan Club out to pasture.
Of course there will be another attack. Bummer. At least I will know that Dick is not standing behind me watching everything I do. That is much more important.
Over at Video Café they have Olbermann's "Special Comment on Dick Cheney's Remarks About a Future Terrorist Attack in the U.S."
The Video Café is a must see just as this main page of C+L. Check it out as often as you do here.
KO went for the jugular, but not in an over-the-top kinda way.
He laid it all out, nice, calm, and factual.
Make your comment over at Video Café. I'm over there talking to myself and I do enough of that here at home. The main page at Video Café is loaded with some interesting stuff. Paul Krugman on the Failure of Reaganomics is interesting as well. Who would have thought that Reagunomics was a bad thing? lol
The last time we were attacked by biological weapons it was one of our own top scientists (supposedly) and it took them seven years our protectors to "find" him.
Enough people have forgotten about that incident, and bought the story, that Cheney's claim that a biological attack will come from some other country.
He keeps turning up like a bad penny -- probably because Lynne and the grandkids run screaming every time they hear his gutteral wheeze.
If ever there was a need for mandatory retirement, Cheney is it.
I thought the Bush/Cheney polices encourage and organized a larger more defined terrorist presence in Afghanistan. We have a much larger heroin trade there. We have a large population in Iraq with dead or maimed family members due to Bush/Cheney. The NSA is spying on people like us, now that's gonna stop terrorism. This old coot needs to kick the bucket already, come on GOD please take him we don't need his help anymore, please.
All those polices; the separation and hate spread all across the world has only created an even better atmosphere for terrorism. Civil unrest just after hate and separation!! Grrr.
I am surprised we haven't been attacked, but then what qualifys as an attack? Food contamination, dirty kids toys, recession, loss of civil liberties. Does an attack have to go boom, you mothfrickinfraggin dirtyOLduma55. :P
This Dick is a fear mongerer and a war mongerer, so that makes him a terrorist in my way of thinking.
Fear Mongering geyser "has been" Cheney has balls to think he can run a counter presidency from the wings.
All his ugly mug does is ratchet up the fervor for throwing his ass in jail along with his cohort, George Bush.
So I say - "stay in the limelight criminal!" The longer you stick around, the more you remind us of how critical it is to investigate you and your administration and begin to prepare prison cells for all of you.
this incredibly fraudulent piece of crap called Dick (fitting), it doesn't seem that the new administration is going to do anything BUT very similar strategies that this guy's administration did. Just as Bubba Clinton, did exactly the same as Bush the Elder. The Iraq invasion was a travesty from the get go, but Clinton did basically the same thing. Killing people with bombs while not invading, is very much the same thing as killing them with invasion. The only difference is, the odd soldier might get killed. Is that what angers Americans, and not the fact that now FOUR US presidents are bombing and killing mostly innocent people with a faux war on terror?
It pisses me off to no end, whenever more Canadian soldiers are killed for no reason. Never supported this Afghanistan nonsense, and never will. It is nothing more than the world's wealthiest taking potshots at the world's poorest. Enough is enough. They get the point.
Obama needs to start framing this discussion as well. Obama needs to let everybody know that because of the way Cheney/Bush ran the government for eight years we are much more danger of being attacked. With he way they treated innocent people at Gitmo they fired up 1000's of potential terrorists. By going into Iraq for no reason these two dickheads made that country into a recruiting office for Al Qaeda. Everybody knows this.
was a police matter, not a military matter. The military never should have been brought in. The problem was, if it was a police matter, there would be investigations, and what's the best way to avoid investigations? Bomb the hell out of poor people.
THE only reason this Dick is running in front of the cameras is because he realizes that his goose is cooked. He's struggling to keep his sorry butt out of jail.
I loved how Rachel eviscerated him totally with his twisted logic and self-inflamatory remarks about how the Gitmo prisoners have become terrorists. He makes the case for not allowing them to go free as they did. Sadly, he's so senile that he probably doesn't realize the hypocrisy of his remark. The one who did return to terrorism is precisely one whom he and his sidekick dick DID allow to go free. Hahahaha! What a twisted moron this guy continues to be.
I don't know about anyone else but this guy is looking pretty pathetic these days. He's so senile and physically compromised that he's beginning to look like a simpering, evil war monger whose prime is well behind him. I can't imagine what the younger generation thinks when they see him. He's a caricature of Snidley Whiplash to baby boomers.
Again, I encourage him to continue to run in front of those cameras to remind people of what they've hated for 8 long, criminal years. The longer he remains in view; the easier it will be to indict him.
and Bush were indicted for war crimes, it would open up a huge box of war crimes on Presidents as far back as World War 2 if not further.
Fear mongering Dick will be indicted by his own words so let the cameras roll!
I'm wondering if Dick's own words have already indicted him and would place him into consideration as a terrorist by the terms of the act? He spoke on national television and made these threats, didn't he?
If the letter of the act is honored, then I believe the american people will have a case against him for his threats.
Just think about those words and there implications: 'SO THE MEDIA CAN ATTACK' ... this would be the same CORPORATE MEDIA that Scott McClellan said was 'ACTIVELY COMPLICIT' IN NOT ONLY PROMOTING BUSH'S=CORPORATIONS IRAQ WAR, but the same corporate media that is now pretending that Obama has 'lost control' of the message relative to the stimulus plan. And how did he loose control ? The Corporate Media stacked the decks with wall to wall REPIGLICAN TAKING HEADS on their TV stations. They alone via their 'political directors' decide who and who not is on to say what. Then after stacking the decks they sit back and with a straight face say that Obama has 'lost control' of the message. This is how these Corporate pigs operate. And now, via the REPIGLICAN POLITICO, they are setting the stage to 'ATTACK' Obama when and if we get attacked again by way of setting that stage with MR EVIL HIMSELF, CHENEY. The Corporate Media are simply millionaire 'journalists' who are nothing more than dancing monkeys at the end of a tether that is attached to a hand held organ, dancing to the tunes of the Organ Master: The very corporations that have hired these cum sluts to do their bidding. And then they sit there looking at you thru the TV screen and purposefully 'catapalt' the propaganda with their million dollar dresses and ties on, issued thru straight face. And now these same CORPORATE CRIMINALS are 'setting the stage' to attack Obama ? All of these corporate criminals should be frog marched out of the protection of their corporate studios and directly into prison. Once their they should be turned into 'bitches' for the enjoyment of the inmates.
Where news corp lost billions of dollars?
I would absolutely love it if murdock went broke and fox folded like the cheap suit it is.
Crash and burn fox fucktards!
Poor fucktards...whatever shall they do if they lose their outlet for spewing forth fear, hate and ignorance?
It's a shame...really.
Cheney has resurected the ol "GOP was Successful" scam.
If we are attacked, Obama was failed where they succeeded. If we AREN'T attacked, it's only because of Bush.
What's more sad is that people don't see through this.
Is spot-on.
kind of crap
you cant change the democratic party into the democrat party with TV or print- it takes the coordinated uncontested repetition
This man's already done it once, he can certainly do it again. Just like he said: not with airline tickets and box cutters but with bio or nuclear weapons. He said it now wait for it. Fucking bastard.
...go to hell for saying this...but I REALLY hope this old fart goes straight to HELL...and the sooner the better.
What a dismal, sick and sadistic f*ck this idiot is. We have had enough of mr. evil for a lifetime. I think he's had enough "life time" to make his evil mark. I just wish he would shut the f*ck up, or leave this planet and roast for eternity. This prick is worse than Hitler ever dreamed of being.
I remember being taught that if you WISH for someone to go to hell, it is a mortal sin. Oh well. I don't buy into such nonsense anymore, but this ass hole deserves every hot flame and explosion of sparks that is waiting for him.
Oh, blow it out your ass, Dick.
...is Dick Cheney. Maybe those who are charged with keeping us safe from another terror attack had better be watching Dick Cheney very, very carefully.
Why does a guy who is very wealthy, open an office in a strip mall??
Login or Register to post comments.