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From Morning Joe, Pat Buchanan apparently wasn't too happy about Levi Johnston's criticism of his girlfriend Sarah Palin on the Today Show, where he said Palin resigned to cash in on her recent celebrity.

Buchanan: Well, first, with regard to Levi, I think First Dude up there in Alaska, Todd Palin, ought to take Levi down to the creek and hold his head underwater until the thrashing stops.

Mika made sure the audience knew that MSNBC does not advocate any violence against Levi Johnston before the segment was over. Way to stay classy Pat.



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So

Pat advocates murder now if he does not agree with a dissenter's opinion?

Good to know.

MSNBC should have immediately fired his tired ass. But the "librul" media would never do that.

MSNBC would have to be on our side, but they're not until they stop what they're doing. important. I mean, this guy deserves a spot once a month, in the morning - that kind of thing. MSNBC has to smarten up or it's going to loose a lot of respect and a lot of friends.

Pat advocates murder now if he does not agree with a dissenter's opinion?

Bill Clinton murdered Sudanese and Serbian civilians!

It's tired and pathetic.

If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged. - Noam Chomsky

See

Bringing up things that are totally irrelevant to the subject at hand smells very trollish. And you, are starting to reek of it.

George Busch popped frogs and tortured people, with glee! George Busch is a memeber of the Republicanazi.

Did anyone mention that Levi is doing us all a great service, and Buchanan is objecting to this service, in his graphically brutal way.

Busch Republicanazis are wrong on so many levels...

Because them Serbians were being so "reasonable" and "peaceful" damn those rascals at NATO and their itchy triggers!

What does all this revisionist Serbian victim crap have to do with the topic at hand BTW?

I'm very close to using the I-word with this one. But not just yet.

BUT

Pat does not believe in abortion....

..but not for the same reasons. If I was at that creek, Todd would not be far behind Levi.

Oh, and Pat would be invited along as well.

Is it just me or is it impossible for conservatives to discuss ANY issue without framing it in violent imagery?

America is a VERY violent place, it is part of our culture and language. Read the verbal violence on this site, not to mention the violence we see and hear everyday from media. There were 855,000 aggravated assaults and 92,000 reported rapes last year. America was founded on violence. Football and hockey are controlled versions of pitched prehistoric battles.

Both factions of the Money Power party, the Rs and the Ds love violence!

You're such a petty man.

Far be it for me to stick up for this kid, but since you are such a tough guy and all, why don't YOU try to hold the strapping, far younger, hockey playing 20 year old under the water and we'll see how long that lasts before the kid gets tired of your little game then turns around and starts filling your belly with rocks from the creek.

Shut up, you old cretin.

Pat's belly filled with rocks from the creek.

Thanks Bonkers, I needed that laugh.

Just another hateful Republican calling for violent murder.

They would see all of the opposition dead, rather than ever acknowledge the "Great Repudiation" of the last election. That, plus the fact that it's the only way they'll ever have a majority backing in the forseeable future.

That's just Pat being Pat they chuckled—it's all just a funny joke...as Pat suggests killing Todd...

Hardee Har Har..as Gleason would say...what fun!

with 13 people chanting "dumb fuckturd", "dumb fuckturd", "dumb fuckturd" while soaking their underware and drinking mai tais.

Pat

Pat Buchanan: Todd Palin Ought to Take Levi Down to the Creek and Hold his Head Underwater Until the Thrashing Stops

Unfortunately (I do agree we've become more "appreciative" of violence as a nation lately), a lot of people will immediately think that Pat Buchanan is the one who ought to be taken down to the creek and have his head held underwater until the thrashing stops. For many of us, the violent fantasies of rightwingers trigger thoughts of violence in retaliation.

Levi Johnston's criticism of his girlfriend Sarah Palin - I assume this is a harmless/snarky error, or is there something more we should know abut these two?

Oooooh, Levi pops the MILF and the daughter!! Too sly!! I am starting to like the boy now!

I would never consider Sarah Palin to be a MILF, and the truth is that I wouldn't even consider her to be female. Also I'm surprised that Todd Palin's eyes haven't melted out of his head, and his flesh hasn't melted off from seeing Sarah naked like in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

they call her his girlfriend to his face on the air on MSNBC constantly since he's always fawning over her.

Buchanan is pathetic. He's the kind of guy who, because the waitress smiles and says "hon" when asking if he wants more coffee, swears the waitress has the hots for him. Pat, hate to break this to ya man, but Sarah's just not into you, dude. But she is smart enough to know that a wink and a smile will have pathetic wretches like you singing her praises until the end of time.

WTF

WHY? WHY? WHY? Why does Pat Buchanan have a job that allows him to be on "news programs"? All I see is a cranky old man who is so nuts that he shouldn't even be allowed out of the house without supervision.

If you ran into a Pat Buchanan at a party or a bar and he started bending your ear with one of his poisonous rants, you'd try your damnedest to get away from him. Fast. Why would MSNBC think that a sizeable number of people would choose to listen to him? Especially when he gets upset and his voice gets ever higher and shriekier.

in that Pat B. perfectly represents a certain viewer demographic - cranky old white racist conservatards - but that's not their typical audience. Are they trying to compete with Faux for the 20%ers?

There are mornings when you can turn from msnbc to fox and hear the almost exact conversation with the almost exact things said about the same topic. It's getting where the difference is minimum. Mika and Norah and Pat's love for and defense of Palin is more annoying than anything said about her these days on Fox. Joe Scarborough is a whole other matter. We know where he's coming from but do they have to have an almost full cast just like him?

I can't even imagine wasting five minutes of my morning on these imbeciles.

Life is too short.

I would probably would get into a fight with Pat... "For some reason it reminded me of my first fight with Tyler."

... what was the 1st rule of fight club oi?!

What a great word! That's exactly how his voice gets -- thanks for the chuckle, Marie.

Palin could, as Commander of the Alaska National Guard and Queen of the Great White North, draft him and send him to the "Stan" and he could die protecting poppy fields!

First, of all since Levi is the person who got to live in the Palin household I think he might have some insight about them. Since is not yet well schooled in media relations he might just let some gems slip out. I am all for letting him talk. And talk again and talk some more.

Second, why is it OK for Sarah to quit her job to make money and not OK for Levi to get some money too? After he's not as well-educated as Palin therefore he needs some money to pay for his baby so the Palins can stop calling him a deadbeat.

Third, Buchanan loves him some water torture why so surprised he wants Levi drowned at the rivers edge? It would be like a "come to Jesus moment" a baptism under fire. I am sure Todd and Pat have some big time fantasies about torture. Just saying

why is it OK for Sarah to quit her job to make money and not OK for Levi to get some money too?

In our world it's not OK for her to quit. But in her narcissistic world it was a perfect move.

In our world Levi is a eyewitness to the debacle that is Sarah Palin and deserves all he can get for telling us this wacky story! But in her megalomaniacal world he is a traitor, an opportunist and worst of all...a babydaddy!

I heard some one said he could do porn. Geez.
At least he wasn't a quitter. Oh wait did he finish High School.

I have no use for Levi Johnston or people like him, but one thing is certain: I hope he rides the Palin gravy train all the way to the end of the line. He was used as a prop by Sarah, and somewhere along the line he wised up and said to himself "Fuck her! I'm getting mine, now. Where's my agent?"

Sarah Palin and Levi Johnston are apparently being given the media rush. Why not Willow? Why not Todd?

I think it's because there's bad blood now between Sarah and Levi, and the press knows there's a potential for bloodshed there.

Sarah apparently hasn't learned the political wisdom of keeping family troubles out of sight. For someone who so desperately wants to control the world around her, her family world is falling apart and she doesn't even see it.

These wingnut freaks think violence is an acceptable solution to their problems, but whenever a left winger mentions violence they go crazy with hypocritical outrage. WTF is happening to this country, this type of Faux like journalism must stop.

Using FOX and journalism in the same sentence is a perfect, soooo perfect example of an oxymoron.

Wouldn't it be these wingnut hacks think promoting violence is the acceptable solution, while having others perform it.

Everyone knows that men who so vociferously spew such violent rhetoric have really big penises!

I think Levi could take Todd. Pay per view.

The rest of the crew yucked it up big time this morning when he said it. He thought he made a funny.

Tune in tomorrow and watch the crew kiss Liz Cheney's butt while she explains the top secret mission her dad was involved in when he told the CIA to keep it all from the congress. Mika has already dismissed it because someone inside the dark curtain told her there was nothing to it. Now if Liz confirms that, heck, it's over...right?

I can't believe they just blew off what Pat said. If he's that stupid an old fart, why ask him his opinion about anything? It's time for him to spend more time with his family.

To them, it's all entertainment. They don't give a rat's ass about Buchanan's, Coulter's, Limbaugh's opinions. No, they just want them on to say all this really outrageous, crazy shit in order to get the rubes at home all jacked up - good for ratings, you know.

Maybe they drown at the same time and it's two nazis dead.

Maybe in the struggle Levi pops Buchanan in the eyeball with a ladle causing a cerebral hemorrhage and coma? It could happen. According to Cheney, there is a better than one percent chance it will happen so you must react as if it is a certainty. Watch what you wish for on TV mr. Buchanan.

playing the game of Three Card Monte. Instead of having just three cards on a sidewalk stand or three walnuts and pea, they've had a half dozen regulators, oodles of right wing political TV bobble heads, and literally a hundred countries to hide in or behind.

republicanism is a mental illness!

need to be paid a visit by some suits ,fbi,doj,dhs, etc.

I've been laughing all day about this. This is what Buchanan is good for - much as I dislike his overall persona - he occasionally comes up with these zingers.
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you really think that was funny? Do us a favor, defect to the conservative blogs if that is not where you came from to begin with. They're more up your alley I think.

Compassionate conservative Pat Buchannan....not to mention pro-lifer Pat Buchannan.

Why Misstaa Buchanon...Levi is just a child. That would be a ABORTION, takin' him down to the river and what not, doin' what daddy's always do when the child is born wrong....I'll tell the abortion people!

RUN LEVI RUN.......THE HIPOCRITS ARE AFTER YOU!...DON'T TELL THE TRUTH...JUST SAY YOU'RE TELLIN' THE TRUTH....Lie you little bastard. That's our conservative, christian way....just lie....we're not the christians we say we are....We love aunt lucy.......ferrrr

Aunt Lucy Ferr /Pat Buchanons aunt from Florida

Somebody ought to take Pat Buchanan down to the creek and hold his head underwater until the thrashing stops.

Or take the crucifix and rosary beads out of one of his hands and the beer out of the other until the thrashing stops. He would drop dead faster.

While calling the Pope rotten names.

"Pope Benedict is the demon seed of Satan himself!"

Pat would drop dead in 5 seconds.

Take Bay Buchanan too, for the love of god, please, please, take Bay too.

The fact that Bay Buchanan is on tv anywhere is something that will forever mystify me. This woman has absolutely NO qualifications to be discussing anything, yet there she is on teevee. Why, well because she's Pat's sister. That's it. That is her resume in one sentence.

If Buchanan posted that same statement here would it be deleted?

I thought the very same thing. Inciting violence doesn't cut it here.

Maybe that's why Pat has no kids, he held their heads underwater till the thrashing stopped.....that or no sane woman would ever sleep with.

It's the latter, I'll bet. All these guys are alike: masses of sexual frustration and inadaquacy given free reign to rail about how the world has been oh so unfair to them.

What was more appalling than the comment was the reaction to it. Raucous laughter does not seem appropriate at the idea of murdering a 20 year old.

Imagine what the reaction would of been if Buchanan had joked about "merely" raping Sarah's daughter.

on another blog was to offer Levi ten bucks to take Patty down to the river. I figure that the time it would take to subdue ole Pat would amount to his pay coming in at around 50 bucks an hour.

Not too shabby.

Or perhaps dispose of Pat Susan Smith style? Lock him in the back seat of a car and push in into the lake. Let him flop around in the back seat until the thrashing stopped before pulling the car back out of the water.

Hardee har. That would be really funny huh Pat?

He said it on Morning Joe and repeated it proudly on Hardball. Yep, let's take some 19 year old kid and hold his head under water until he DIES. That's some Conservative political commentary for you.

Note to all conservatives: Levi is fair game. You see him, kill him.

Here's the thing, if people like Buchanann, Limbaugh, Hannity, Malkin etc...want a Revolution or a Civil War, fine. But show some balls and go out there and fire the first shot. Don't leave it up to the sick and feeble minded listeners to die and go to jail for you. People like these were the result of six million Jews being murdered. They are the the Heinrich Himmler and Joseph Goebbels of our time. They need to be held accountable. After WWII, people like these who didn't do the killing but ordered and propagated the killings were hanged. They already killed three Pittsburgh police officers, Dr. Tiller and a few church killings. WAKE UP!!!! Stop them now before it becomes a movement.

live at MSNBC? You'd think so, as often has his ugly mug shows up there.

Pat just repeated this exact same thing on Hardball. He's proud of it I suppose.

He just said it again, word for word on Hardball....WTF is this guy still doing on TV?

He even said, as I said this morning.......
Like any old fart if he says something that gets him attention, he keeps repeating it.

Only in America can a FAT-HEAD like Pat Buchannan get himself a sweet "news commentator" position whereby he can influence millions to his way of thinking. If anyone should be held under until the thrashing stops, it is him and those who think like him.

...I thought all children needed "a mother AND a father." Unless the father, you know, annoys Sarah Palin, I guess.

CAN BUCHANAN

go Pat go!

The whole panel made fools of themselves. Disgraceful!

Letterman was demonized over a joke he made of an 18 year daughter of Sarah Palin, as a comedian. People were outraged! Yet Pat Buchanan who is not a comedian can promote the killing of a teenager and we are silent? Where's Sarah Palin's "outrage"? Where's the protest. Where's the bloggers, where's the MSM? The only difference between Letterman's joke and Pat's "joke" is Pat's a conservative and Levi isn't the daughter of a media whore.

That liberal bias in the media really makes it hard on us liberals.

What if Letterman said :
"I think Sarah should take Bristol Down to the Creek and Hold her Head Underwater Until the Thrashing Stops"
or
"I think Levi should Take Bristol Down to the Creek and Hold her Head Underwater Until the Thrashing Stops"
"I think Michelle Obama to Take Levi Down to the Creek and Hold her Head Underwater Until the Thrashing Stops"
How would the Republicans react?

This is news; a bunch of egotistical and delusional douchebags spewing trash?.

...the laughs just never stop with them does it?
Perhaps Pat can place a call to his buddy G. Gordon, he's not unfamiliar* with such things? (*That's mere speculation on my part)

Well gee Pat, generally when the thrashing stops it means the person is dead, or at least very close to it. So, you're advocating Todd murder Levi? Wow, that's pretty bad.

BillO just played Pat's rant on his show. What does that tell ya?

repeated the exact same comment verbatim tonight on Hardball with Chris Matthews, without the disclaimer from Mika. I mean, this is creepy. The wingnuts cannot NOT use violent imagery when talking about people they disagree with.

In Rwanda, a radio DJ advocated the violence 24/7 (and was later tried for war crimes). They gave away transistor radios and machetes... I'm just saying.

Mika is not very smart is she.

Oh, Pat, stop it with the sexual fantasies, now. This is a family show.

...so far.

Huh, did Pat Buchanan create these websites :

www.untilthe thrashing stops.com
www.drownlevijohnston.com
www.kill levi.org
www.kill sarah's enemies.com
www.put all palin's enemies under water until they die.org

Levi J is the father of Todd Palin's grandchild.
Now we see that republicans believe in killing their grandchildren!!
Republicans are opposed to killing zygotes and fetuses, but are in favor of murdering grandchildren.
Republicans believe in killing grandchildren but not children.

don't miss it at all.

Thanks to C&L for pointing out yet another disgusting example of the LOW LOW level of political discourse being fed to us by the Main Stream Media.

Is he serious?!!! The morally righteous, "Catholic" Pat Buchanan, once a candidate for POTUS, advocates the murder of a teenage boy by the grandfather of the boy's child with his daughter...not to mention that the suggested murderer is the husband of a former vice-presidential candidate. The Republicans must be so proud! And Mika says, "that's priceless, Pat!" These people are shameless! And possibly criminal.

...and if Sarah Palin does become the POTUS --that would mean that a former candidate for president (Pat Buchanan)suggested that the husband of the current President murder his teenage relative.
The repugs are not pro-life. Christians and Jews love murder. The Old Testament of the Bible (The Torah) is proof of that.
Republicans love murder. The "Pro-life" stance they take is exactly the same as "Wide-Stance" Larry Craig protesting "Bill Clinton is a naughty boy. Bill Clinton is a nasty, dirty, naughty boy".
The anti-abortion stance the Radical right take is just to disguise their love of murder, war, and death of innocent people.

OMG! Bite your tongue! If that ever happens, we are truly doomed. Can't you just see her in a face-off with Putin? "I can see all the way to his soul from my porch, then, also, you betcha"!

Isn't he just the happy little Christian man!

I wonder how long it will be before senile fascist bigot Buchanan begins playing with his penis on television, while spewing hatred to riotous laughter from the msnbc crew?

I think that Pat B. has the perfect skill set to sell used cars. He should go do that right away!

Buchanan should stick his penis in a coffee grinder and push the button.

I dare you, you coward!

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buchanan should stick his tongue into the garbage disposal and flip the switch.

He was so proud of this clever remark he repeated it on Hardball later in the day. What a wanker.

Oh, Patty Buchanan is nothing more than a whore. Literally. He will say whatever butters his bread. Why, I remember (only a month ago) when Patty couldn't stand Sarah Palin. But, as the month wore on, he began to like her more and more.

And I can remember when he ran for president (2000). Remember Florida, where a lot of Jews accidentally voted for Buchanan, even though he was violently anti-Semitic, because the voting card was so screwed up? Yes, the first few days after that, he laughed on air, saying OF COURSE they didn't mean to vote for him. But in the days and weeks ahead, things changed. Buchanan then claimed that they MEANT to vote for him. (Could that have had anything to do with the other voting problems -- hanging chads, etc?)

Future jokes by republicans (possibly):
_(1.)________ _________Ought to Take ______ ______ Down to the Creek and Hold his /her Head Underwater until the thrashing stops

HA ! HA ! HA ! HO HO ! It's so funny !

(2.) ____ ______ ought to put a rope around ____ ______'s neck and hang him

HA HA HA ! Oh, it's so funny my sides hurt

3). ____ ______ ought to put a gun to ____ ______'s head and pull the trigger

Ha ha Ha !! These republican jokes are so funny !! I can't stop laughing (and neither can the other TV show hosts)

Am I the only one who finds this totally bizarre? The Today Show interviews this 19 year old because he knocked up the governor's daughter. He's even more of an ignoramous than Sarah Palin herself.

As for MSNBC - I think it would be nice if we could actually watch JUST SOME PLAIN news once in a while - no commentary - no bias. Infotainment and commentary should be labeled as such. NEWS should be FACTS! FACTS are truths.

What a weird world.

There is a new gangster in town.

much cable news. Don't you know, THE NEWS HAS BEEN CANCELLED?!! The MSM is like a circus sideshow these days. There is no real news. It's just all this crap like you saw on Morning Joe. The only shows where you get real news with facts are The Daily Show, The Colbert Report, Countdown and Rachel Maddow. They actually employ real facts, and frequently correct wrong information found on other shows. Sad, isn't it, that the two top news shows for real news are on The Comedy Channel? And, BTW, have you watched The Faux Noise channel? THAT "news" is completely from fantasy land. You can close your eyes and hear Big Brother and the "Two Minute Hate" for 24/7! It just isn't for the "Reality-based Community".

Wonder if Palin will come to Levi's defense. The Palin's whined and whined about their family being treated poorly by the "mainstream media" Now, the father of her daughter's baby has become the recipient of a horrible comment by Buchanan. Doubt she will do the classy thing and condemn Buchanan's words.

against Levi, then it needs to fire Pat Buchanan to prove it. Yes, I know Pat was trying to make "a joke", but he meant it. Every freaking time Sarah Palin comes up, you can just tell Pat's heart beats faster and will jump in to protect her as best as he can.

I really wish MSNBC would get rid of Pat Buchanan. I know someone (I believe it was Rachel Maddow) described Pat as being like their "crazy old uncle" or grandpa or something, with his old, bigoted, hateful ways and all, but he really is just more suited for FOX "News". They should just give him a show on FOX where they will gladly let him express his love for Sarah Palin to his heart's content.

Is he SERIOUSLY the best MSNBC can do for a political analyst?

Another word for the pundit class....

dicks

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They should bar him from ever appearing on their show again.

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