Pat Buchanan: America is Disintegrating Because White America is an Endangered Species
Looks like Pat Buchanan finally made an appearance on a network where he belongs... over at Fox "News" with Sean Hannity where was making the rounds trying to sell his new book.
Pat Buchanan: Minorities Aren't "Bad For The Country," But...:
Pat Buchanan doesn't think "minorities are bad for the country." At least that's what he claimed last night on Fox News. In an interview with Sean Hannity to discuss his new book, Suicide of a Superpower: Will America Survive to 2025?, Buchanan expanded on part of the book's premise, that America is "disintegrating" because "white America is an endangered species." Though he claimed that minorities aren't "bad for the country," the America of 2041 Buchanan sketched is one that is bankrupt economically, confounded by crime and lawlessness, and where English is a second language.
Lots more there with analysis of the interview and Buchanan's long history of racism, so go read the rest.
Full transcript below the fold.
HANNITY: As we continue on "Hannity," and we continue with Patrick J. Buchanan, New York Times best-selling author, former presidential candidate, his new book is called, "Suicide of a Superpower: Will America Survive to the Year 2025?"
All right. When you write a chapter in abook called the end of white America and you write in that chapter, white America is an endangered species, and then you talk about the white population will begin to shrink with present birth rates, slowly disappear. You talk about Mexico moving north, et cetera, et cetera. You know what's coming next.
BUCHANAN: Well.
(LAUGHTER)
HANNITY: You know --
BUCHANAN: It's what comes before.
HANNITY: That's true. But I want you to explain it in your words because I think people will interpret it, Pat, is that oh, so white America is going so that means the end of America? You are saying that minorities are bad for the country.
BUCHANAN: No. Not at all. But the title is taken from the title of an article, cover article in Atlantic magazine, exactly, the end of white America. What does it mean for the -- about? What does it mean for the culture? And so, I looked at it from what does it mean for the United States of America when white Americans in 2041 become a minority in the country along with Asian Americans minority, African-Americans and Hispanic Americans. And you try to envisualize what's going to happen and America is going to look very much like California right now. And what does that mean? California is bankrupt. It's bond rating is the lowest of any place. Los Angeles, half the people there don't speak English in their own homes. Five million people.
And you've got all the problems of crimes. You've got a black-brown war among the underclass as one sheriff described, it in the prisons and in the gangs. And people are leaving California. And it's the old tax consumers are coming in. Now, these are not bad or evil people. Even the ones who are legal. They are coming to work many of them. They're coming for a better life. But the truth is they are bankrupting the state of California because of that divide you mentioned between taxpayers and tax consumers. And what happens when all of America is like that, when every American city is like LA? Who said -- David, what's his name from the New York Times"
HANNITY: Which one?
BUCHANAN: Columnist for the The New York Times?
HANNITY: One of your favorites, David Brooks.
BUCHANAN: Brooks. He said, you know, Tom Joad has given up. He went to California. John Judis, the new republic. He said, I don't think California is going to make it. Now, these are -- they're awful lot of liberals and others in there saying look, and what I'm saying is, look, what California is today America is in 2041 if we don't change course.
HANNITY: You -- really the two chapters together, the end of white America, demographic winter which you talk about ,people of European dissent are not only in a relative but real declining. Aging, dying, disappearing and you say, this is a big crisis of the west. Here is my question. We do break down. Now, people forget this. We break down demographically every poll. We break down every election demographically how African-Americans vote, white Americans vote. So, this is common.
BUCHANAN: Right.
HANNITY: I guess the issue or the argument that you are making though is, what? That the value system is different because 90 percent of African-Americans traditionally historically vote Democratic.
BUCHANAN: Ever since, '64, correct.
HANNITY: And the Hispanic vote goes what demographically?
BUCHANAN: It goes -- the Hispanic goes 60 to 70 percent Democratic. Asian-Americans which is a bit of a surprise, 60 to 70 percent. Africans- Americans, 90 to 95 percent. That's what Barack Obama got.
What I'm saying is, if that is half of the country, and Republicans will never win another election. And I mentioned California for this reason. Demographically what California is will tell you also what California is politically. Republic Party, Nixon and Reagan won California nine times, Nixon lost it once. Republican can't win California today. It's not because the people are evil. But they are democratic. They depend on government. They believe in government. And they vote for the party of government. And when Texas goes the same way and whites are a minority in Texas, when it becomes predominantly overwhelmingly Hispanic, it is going to become predominantly Democratic. That's the end of the Republican Party.
HANNITY: What do you say to those people saying there is Pat Buchanan? Well, no, no. What do you say to them, they say, why don't you break it down along belief system rather than racial lines?
BUCHANAN: Well, I agree, I mean, I'll tell you why many African- Americans vote Democratic is because, you know, the federal government stopped, ended slavery, it ended segregation, it supported civil rights, supports affirmative action. But the Feds did that and they tend to believe in the federal government as a good, powerful positive institution, it's on our side. And Hannity and Buchanan and these guys are constantly knocking it, and that's why we are against them. So, that's an understandable position. But what I'm saying is it is a realistic statement to say that that's going to be the future as well.
HANNITY: Right. Because I look at the value system of many of my friends from all backgrounds. Diverse backgrounds, and they think as I do.
BUCHANAN: One quick point on that.
HANNITY: Go ahead.
BUCHANAN: Seventy percent of African-Americans in California voted for Proposition 8 to outlaw gay marriage. Five percent voted for John McCain. So, you are right, the value system in many cases, the African-Americans are the most churched people in America but politically, in politics, trumps values in many places.
HANNITY: Politically can different demographic groups move over to limited government, to lower taxes?
BUCHANAN: Now you are talking. That's why I say, you have a moratorium on immigration. Take all the immigrants that came in, the Jews, the Irish, the Italians, the Pols. They all voted Democratic. So we shut off immigration in 1924.
By the 1950s, they were moving and when we talked Nixon, we're working, Nixon said, we're going to get an Italian on the Supreme Court, they are ready to break our way. Because these are folks, their kids came up. They're doing well, they got kids in school and they're saying, we are paying taxes. Wait a minute, our taxes are going up. Maybe we ought to take a look at this other party.
But you need time for folks to move out of that poverty and move up into the middle class. Once they move into the middle class into the taxpayer category, Sean, they are available.
HANNITY: All right. Pat Buchanan. Listen, when you're under fire later this week we'll have you back.
BUCHANAN: OK.
HANNITY: All right. Which I'm predicting.
republican party..thought pattern..Entitlement..They have forever thought the GOVERNMENT BELONGED TO THE OLD WHITE MALE!
buchanan has long showed bias but this is the definitive..LAY OUT OUT PAT....You told the truth for once!
Poor old Pat.
He is suffering under the delusion that there is such a thing as 'white man'. Humans rapidly adapt their skin color to their environment. Pat may be white today, but his offspring [shudder] will become whatever color the environment dictates within a number of generations.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
...I thought I was just your generic Blonde Blue-eyed White kid. But as I got older I found out my Dad had stowed away on a ship with what was left of his family to escape the Bolshevists who murdered much of his family. He was a Russian Jew that was Black Russian and descended from the Moors/Egypt. Then when I was much older I found out my Grandma was half American Indian.
People my folks age were afraid to talk about whatever "Color" they were descended from. Very very sad to lose that heritage.
So many Americans are "Hungry Ghosts."
~albabe (The Writer/Artist Formally Known As Al Gordon)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gordon
Had no trouble running into folks in the neo-Nazi/skinhead groups that revolved around meth. But never became one of "them". If they'd found out that my mom was of German and Russian Jewish descent, well, let's just say it wouldn't have ended well...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
I wonder why he hasn't been on Morning Joe lately pushing his new book? Maybe he's finally gone too far even for msnbc. I mean every time someone on Joe's show has a book they push it like crazy, why not Pat's.
Pat's a miserable old cuss.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
that "Mein Kampf" is not a new book.
How democratic of Pat. He's not saying everyone should stay off his lawn... just the blacks and Hispanics.
I wish this old racist would simply disintegrate.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Agreed completely. Pat's time on this planet will hopefully come to an end soon.
Now on to another point. I see you are a Battletech fan with that Mad Cat forum avatar. Well I worked with the FASA guys for years on Mechwarrior 2 and 3 and even worked with Virtual World guys on the Battletech sim tanks at Dave & Busters. My problem is..... I'm a native Texan. So there ARE some things you like about Texas. ;-)
Not trying to pick a fight... just offering some perspective.
It's a TIMBERWOLF! AAAAAWWWWROOOO! LOLOL.
Why did you guys allow Microsoft to destroy the Mechwarrior franchise. Only the greatest pc battle sim ever created.
Now my son and I are relegated to playing with the Mech mods in Crysis.
Want my advice to you and your colleagues. Get back the license to Mechwarrior 3 Titanium Trilogy and port ALL those games...exactly as is...for play using modern OS and state of the art graphics.
You will make a fortune.
Also, I kept my old Voodoo3 vid card, and built a Win 98 machine to play Titanium Trilogy.
I never said I hated Texas. I just don't care for the politics. My ex girlfriend's mother is from Texas. I've been there a number of times.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Well its very small on my screen. It looked like a Mad Cat, but yes, I blew it up, it is in fact a Timberwolf. They are both very similar.
So to answer your question. Smith and Tinker (Jordan Weisman new company) bought the Mechwarrior rights back from Microsoft but hasn't done anything with it yet. Go to http://www.smithandtinker.com/ to see what they are up too.
I too would love to see this IP take off again. I did a little artwork for the Living Legends Crysis mod but it was very small as I have a big boy job now. ;-)
Regardless, I was just wanting to acknowledge another Battletech fan. Cheers my good man, you are not alone.
I hope they are successful in relaunching it. Then we can show the world how to blow up computer generated cities with style!
Best of luck to you to.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
The last computer generated city I blew up with style was Magaton in Fallout III. I do have fun jumping around the rooftops in Crisis II, though. Gamers.... what fun!
You haven't lived until you've dropped a 30 story building while driving a 75 ton mech.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
I still have some of my pins. Used to use the Thor V6. Good times.
Hallelujah!!
I suggest you take advantage of the close proximity. Rufies help.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
"But you need time for folks to move out of that poverty and move up into the middle class." He has a point here but unfortunately, every single GOP policy is designed to prevent this from happening so they have only themselves to blame.
When is this stupid, ignorant fuck going to just go away already? Hey Pat, it ain't 1950 anymore. You're in the wrong century!
was afraid the Hitler estate would sue.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
.wasn't available?
"Folks, this is not your father's Republican Party."
Joe Biden
Interesting to see an old-style conservative, a Reaganite no less, reject the entire mindset of optimistic Republicanism, 'Morning in America', and basic respect for the power of individuals, no matter what creed or color.
Who'd have thought someone like Buchanan would end up hating America more than he claims liberals do?
Pat is a Nixon lover. He cannot complete any conversation without mentioning how it was done "back in his day" some 45 YEARS AGO.
Pat has to be at 75 yro - why anyone thinks anything he has to say is relevant to 2011 is beyond me. Wish he would just go away and croak and take all those his age who still remain in Congress with him. They are TOO DAMN OLD to have any official position much less authority in the 21st Century. My 81yro Mom is always bitching about these old white guys who need to get out of the way and let the younger, smarter, people take over. She knows their time is over - hell, I'm 57 and these same ole whyte guyz have been in power since I was in my 20s - they were OLD then - I cannot imagine how the "kidz" must feel about them.
I know, Buchanan worked for Nixon. But Nixon was liberal, at least in terms of social policy - more liberal than Obama, actually. Buchanan's role in the Nixon White House was to be a policy sounding-board for the far right. Paleocon Pat would give Nixon's speeches a conservative gloss and advise Dick and his staff on how Nixon's policies and programs could be finessed with the Birchers and Buckleyites.
Buchanan was strongly pro-Reagan in most respects. He's never repudiated him - other than to say that Reagan's "Revolution" didn't go far enough.
"But not from me, good buddy. Seig heil."
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Did you know that his Grandfather died in a Concentration Camp?
WELL, DID YOU?
Yeah, it was tragic.
He fell out of the Guard Tower.
Don't drink, but will have a couple when this genocidal racist ********** croaks.
Is there no limit to what you have to do to get kicked-off of MSNBC.
The Glenn Beck of MSNBC still has a job.
Nothing like the smell of pepper spray in the morning.
You know it was hardly a couple of decades after that when the slaves got freedom.
"Folks, this is not your father's Republican Party."
Joe Biden
in America. It's a subject I'm pretty passionate about. Some of it was Irish on Irish.
"Better." It's what we should ask of ourselves and of our leaders.
I saw "Gangs Of New York" for the first time last night, pretty ugly period in America's ugly history.
Same as now though, the rich pitting the poor against the poor.
The problem's not Pat Buchanan, it's the many media platforms that afford him space to spout his poison.In this regard MSNBC is worst than FOX, because they're,if I'm not mistaken, paying the man.
I agree and he is the reason I won't watch MSNBC anymore, though I love Rachel and Lawrence.
at night when he is not on. If I see he is on I change the channel. What I can't understand is WHY he is still on? Of course I don't know why David Gregory, or Joe Scarborough., or Andrea Mitchell, or Chuck Todd is on either. I'm just saying!
I do the same thing. If he shows up on Hardball, I stop watching immediately and change the channel. I also never watch Gregory, Scarborough, Mitchell, or Todd - my TV goes straight to another channel.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
to know that this is the face of racism in Amerrykkka. He is part of the big lie that has been told since the inception of this country!
If its not history in English, it never happened to the intellectually challenged, that is a big percentage of white Amerrrykkka, the ones that cannot progress towards humaness, the ones that evolution is dealing with in the way it does!
Recovered believer of myth that no government is better than no government.
"Black people are OK as long as white people outnumber them."
Why is this racist fuck still on TV?
If, yesterday we were discussing taking up a collection to send old yuppie outdoors-wear, socks, sleeping bag pads & such to the folks soon to be freezing their butts off @ OccupyWallSt; the very least those 13.57% Caucasoid males among the readership can do is take up a corresponding collection of sufficient motility, viscous potency and volume to help repopulate der übermenschen populace of the good ol' US of A... anybody have Pat's home address handy? I'll go grabs me a giant family-size Hellmann's Mayonnaise jar and set to work, if you'd all avert your eyes? We could start a competition with all the other commie, effete, librul blogs? We RD 51%, 49%, 47%... Ooo-RAH!
This just in: http://gawker.com/5851347/troops-in-afghanist...
I had to check the transcript — "And it's the old tax consumers are coming in. Now, these are not bad or evil people. Even the ones who are legal."
The presumption is that "those" people are "illegal" people, although Pat´s being "liberal" enough to recognize that "they" aren't all illegal, just all a member of what he's calling the "tax consumer class". Um, while even undocumented people pay taxes, it is a clever way of selling bigotry and racism.
What might give a hint as to the idiocy therein is the hysterically dumb construction of the book's title and subhead. The former offers a declarative that America is committing suicide (or will), the latter asks whether or not the conclusion he just drew is correct. I don't think anyone even edited the cover of this book, much less its remaining contents.
Maybe we could set up some sort of zoo breeding program . . . .
Corruption favors the wealthy.
in Ohio in front of his zoo. Not sure if any of his human-animal hybrids were successful, however.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
White people are *zoo animals*? I've never Pat Buchanan say anything that racist.
Maybe not on TV...
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
'Cause white people are jsut sooo persecuted.
Methinks a bigot mighteth be protesting too much.
That was a play on the "endangered" comment, Einstein.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
Broken and tired, the sullen old man donned his white pointed cap and white cloak. Rising from the chair with a sad sigh he sulked off into the night, bemoaning the death of an America that never was.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Pat belongs on FOX LIES Channel alright. I really, really, hope he stays where he belongs.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
that's what you call someone who thinks his race is the only one that counts. it's lovely that soon we will outnumber him. i like that.
pats been listening to "fear of a brown planet",didn't know he was into rap........
....the fools do not realize,a population that can ,..... not paticipate .............in the 'economy'...,can not keep it viable!..........."we are listening,.......and we're not blind.,......this is your life....this is your time."
But Pat has always had good relations with "the blacks".
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
My understanding was that the "Demographic Winter" (DM), older population growing and birthrate dropping, was happening to all races. Does anyone know if Buchanan's assertion that it is happening faster to whites can be backed up?
California's demographic shift can be explained by immigration without worrying about DM. I am pretty sure that immigration is the only reason America even has a growing population at all.
Here is a list of all countries by fertility rate. No info on how America's fertility rate breaks apart by race. DM seems to be a problem everywhere except for Africa. So by this it seems that Buchanan is wrong when he claims that the shift in race majorities in this countries is based on DM. It is probably all immigration.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countrie...
America in 2025 will be better off in at least one aspect - Pat Buchanan's slimy ass will probably be gone by then...
Ultimately the demographic trends spell doom for the Republican party. Unless they give up the ideologies that make them toxic to minorities. One day they will have to retire the Southern Strategy and the overt racism it entails and get back to good old class warfare. Say, has anybody else noticed the current trends in Republican strategy? Class warfare is a bitch to fight when your side has lots of money but not so many votes. The money can be used to persuade voters to vote against their own interests but only for awhile. Then the pendulum swings.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
Thanks Pat. So glad to know I'm not "bad for the country."
What a fucktard.
So...from now on when I tell ya'll that race (yes, more than money and power) is at the stinking bottom of every single decision the cesspool we call Congress makes, NOW will ya'll believe me? They spend an awful lot of time making sure that the folks they call "minorities" stay poor and subservient. And if a few white folks aren't smart enough to dodge the bullet, then who cares? At leas they're white. At any rate, they're on top and that's all that matters.
America is disintegrating because there's fewer whites? Really, Pat? Oh, that's right. You're the ignorant racist fuck who believes that white people were here first and settled this country all by themselves. You're the ignorant fuck who ignores the vast contributions from Native Americans who were here centuries before whites, and Hispanics who were here decades before whites. You're also ignoring the vast contributions from African American slaves whose blood sweat and tears built the south. You are an ignorant and hateful liar, Pat.
The hate makes him lie. The lies make him hate.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
This man has been despicable for as long as I remember.
It is the Republicans' fear of brown people that will ultimately pave the way for them to be shown the dust bin of history. Onward progress!
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...continues to employ this old Nazi, I have no frigging idea.
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"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Haven't seen him in a while thankfully - maybe his contract was not renewed.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
A lot of the comments here are just as racist against whites as anything Pat Buchanan says about other groups. The truth is anti-racism is based on ethnic identity and is therefore just another form of racism. Unfortunately, the Democrats have totally discarded economic issues in favor of this racist anti-racism, and by doing so, they have allowed corporations to take over the country.The irony is that if people like Pat Buchanan were still in control of the GOP, the country would be a lot more progressive on economic issues.
this is ridiculous.
If you say that white people are oppressors - or as some here have said, the world is better off without white people - then you're singling out whites as somehow inferior to other groups. That is the every definition of racism. (In a purely logical analysis, the argument would be that the word racism is included in the word anti-racism.) You can therefore no more rid the world of racism than you can rid the world of terrorism. This is why arguments about race should only be about rights, and should include no mention of race
No, it was patently ridiculous.
Nonsense. If you say that white people are oppressors, you're saying that they have oppressed others. Nowhere in that statement does it show whites to be inferior to anybody, if anything, it implies that they have a superior position over those they oppress.
I know it's more fun to wring your hand over just how hard whitey has had in over the last 300 years in this country, but all evidence shows that's just not true. Pointing out that inequality doesn't make one racist, denying it does though.
Oppression of other races is either a desirable attribute of a race or an undesirable attribute. If it is an undesirable attribute, then you're saying that a race of oppressors is inferior in some way to the race which doesn't engage in racial oppression. That is a racist argument, like it or not. This is why people who are being denied their rights should simply seek their rights rather than make negative assertions about the race which is denying them their rights.
The truth is all human beings show a preference for their own race, ethnicity, religion, etc. and there is nothing wrong with that as long as everyone has equal rights under the law. The problem I have is that most progressives accept - and even encourage - the ethnocentricity of non-whites while condemning the ethnocentricity of whites.
There is no white race. There are no races. Race is a delusion.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
with the gist of what your saying, and all political parties, like anything else, have their notable racial demons to be sure; but on the flip side of the argument is the fact we still have tremendous disparity in the economic, education, employment and housing matters that are quite drawn along ethnic and racial lines. Republicans were once until after Lincoln the boldest defenders of civil rights, but those moderate and pragmatic voices took a back seat once things like the Southern Strategy, the Dixiecrats, Jim Crow laws, reactionary Religious Right and 'The Lost Cause' revisionist, pro-Confederate history engulfed the party; now they (the supermajority)choose to ignore or downplay race-based/racially-sensitive matters, except when it comes to purposefully know-nothing and ignorant arguments like pointing out how black (and hispanic) girls get more abortions because of their usual lower-class status or equating the sanctity of marriage/homosexuality debate with black children 'having it better' with 2 black parents (a present father) under slavery versus in Obamerica courtesy of Mrs. Bachmann (both manifest nonsense, as any non-wingnut would know).
I agree that no one's ethnocentricity should be 'more tolerated' than anyone's else as far as it goes, but you have to remember the extended U.S. History when Blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Jews, etc. didn't have much of any 'identity' outside the fact they wern't white, and that absolutely meant that they were inferior and should be treated and viewed as such (i.e. lynchings, church burnings, segregated schools, drinking fountains,and neighborhoods,etc.). I'm a pretty mellow and open-minded guy in contrast to a stereotypical black guy, but I imagine many of those more outspoken and in-your-face participants of the Civil Right Movement had to be that way some of the time to get others to respect and take them seriously.The racial jokes, faux-death threats, and chest-pounding for your own kind is all well and normal privately and at certain times informally in public, but recall that there are some that have had that privilege quite a bit longer than others.
I'd love it if the Tea Partiers and many Republican pundits would stop equating higher taxes on the wealthy with the Holocaust and Jews being gased (highly offensive) and Health Care legislation as 'reparations' (there are more than 50 million Americans that need it and the majority are actually nor descended of slaves, believe it or not). I regard racism as a two-way street for the most part, but its stiky wicket to say that the institutionally oppressed can be more 'racist' than the institutional oppressors, especially if the latter denies what they did and/or 'it' being all that bad...
P.S. to the World-Obama is NOT an affirmative action president btw, he has affirmatively taken action as an exceptional individual to become president, whom HAPPENED to be black...
President Obama is like the AHCA his administration miraculously passed: marginally helpful, efficient enough to be built upon, and will only become a uniform disaster if Republicans win 2012 & repeal it (with all the other good he did)!
I understand perfectly well that some groups of Americans are more likely to be victims of prejudice than others. For example, it's an undeniable fact that cops in this country are much more likely to use deadly force against a black person than against a white person. When I was child, the country was moving away from such injustice and towards a more communitarian and equitable society. There was still a long way to go, but conditions for the victims of discrimination - blacks, gays, women, etc. - had improved dramatically in just a few years. This changed when Reagan was elected, and everything shifted towards identity politics. Instead of being unified around an American identity and culture, everyone became a hyphenated American, which of course divided people and led to the rise of corporatism. Now we're in a situation where it will be difficult to eliminate this factionalism and restore a sense of community because the majority of people in both parties are opposed to the idea of a communitarian American society. Democrats view such a thing as racism, while Republicans see it as socialism. Both sides are so firmly locked into those views that I doubt things will improve for the average American until the whole system collapses.
There is only one race - the human race. There is no such thing as race in biology. It is a construct of politics.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
The Democrats have not abandoned any economic or social stances they've up taken since the 1960's, and its the unchecked special interest and lobbyist trolling courtesy of the Tea Baggers and Republicans that's filibustering and undoing whatever progressive policies Obama's administration has attempted to affect in a greater manner. And anti-racism is an oxymoron in the sense your using it, because if someone is engaging in that kind of booted and discriminatory discourse purposefully, white or non-white, than they're not really anti-racist at all, get it? Please don't make anyone have to give you an extended list of the blatantly and vehemently racist statements, actions, and legislation made by the GOP and it associates in recent years, and especially since a certain 1960s legislation that chopped up party affiliation along the racial boundaries big time
BTW, if Pat Buchanan were to ever become in control of anything major in politics, it would include breaking any U.S. alliance w/ Israel (we're a 'Zionist amen choir' since we have too many Jews in Congress, which in his needle-narrow worldview means more than one), repealing ALL Civil Rights laws, ALL government regulation and bureaucracy period, because he says it employs too many black and brown people, I kid you not! He said it in a column a few weeks back, as well as the breathlessly retarded claim that blacks and other minorities caused the 2007 housing crisis because they should have never taken on loans they know they couldn't afford to pay back, not those angelic and concerned corporations that dished out whatever amount they requested while turning a blind-eye to the risk they were taking (it was like 52% to 48% of whites and non-whites who got re-called on their mortgages, but he referred to all of them as 'hard-working patriots' who didn't need to be punished for the burdens of 'lesser classes'; what a 'progressive' shmuck!
President Obama is like the AHCA his administration miraculously passed: marginally helpful, efficient enough to be built upon, and will only become a uniform disaster if Republicans win 2012 & repeal it (with all the other good he did)!
That's some amazing projection there Mr. Buchanan - because I can't think of any BIGGER threat to the future of this country than conservatives like you. Between a fervent desire to turn the world's largest nuclear power into a fundamentalist theocracy and a desperate refusal to acknowledge the oncoming man-made environmental disaster, it's not at all clear to me how we'll survive another thirty years of conservative misrule.
why is this clown still on tv? i cannot wait till the repuke party is voted out of existance. it cannot happen soon enough
warren mosler for president
there is no such thing as a 'White American'.
All of us with relatively pale skin (our ancestors, anyway) came here on boats and then committed genocide against the REAL Natives......the ones we now condescendingly call Native Americans. We keep them on reservations, somewhat like zoos, so we can keep an eye on the 'wild, native' animals to make sure they can never grow their tribes and take back the land stolen by the English, Spanish, Germans, Irish, Italians, Scots, etc., etc., etc.
In the immortal words of Rodney King...."Can't we all just get along??"
Pat, shut up.
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
We can but hope.
Such a statement is proof of the above assertion that anti-racism is a form of racism.
Unless "white america" is actually just an idea - a political position - without substance - and the source of unnecessary conflict.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
I honestly cannot see how planet Earth and the universe won't be an infinitely more wonderful place to dwell when this man passes over to whatever awaits his kind on the 'Other Side' (as a non-denominational Christian I can't IMAGINE any loving God allowing him into Heaven but I know that's just what Christ's death was ALL about: grace for them all for they are all undeserving!); If his death can't come soon enuff' than you'd think his longevity on a mainstream news network would as a 'learned commentator WOULD. Than again, MSNBC would have to be competent and the very embodiment of fair and balanced (Non-Fox edition) to expel this proto-fascist pond scum but here we are poking, prodding and praying for him to just float away. (On a side note: I DO applaud CNN for giving that illegal immigration-lieing, birther ass-kissing Lou Dobbs the boot a few years back though, despite being only a sporadic spectator of their 'news'...)
On subject though, Pat Buchanan re-writing 'Mein Kamp', 'The Turner Diaries', or the 'Protocols of the Elders of Zion' over and over (ala' Davey Duke) isn't doing anything of redemptive value for the dwindling sane and good of this world, but we have to remember that even cognitively impaired white nationalist/supremacist individuals and groups deserve a solid red-meat pandering too every now and again; it's gotta be agonizing being the cream of creation and the self-described 'most-endangered species' simultaneously (they want more of themselves and yet they are so few? They are so much smarter and better looking but yet so reviled and rejected by the rest of 'us'? Why do they care what that 'other' thinks anyways, I'd say I can relate as an African-American but I don't wanna' start sounding like a Herman Caninite or Michael Steele ditto dunce!) You'd think a certian number of politically uncorrect (read:Right-Winger's Right to be Offensive & Unvilified) statements (documented exceptionally by Media Matters), book-bound KKK tracts veiled as 'paleoconservative best-sellers', in addition to visits to the Political Cesspool (white supremacist) radio and Council of Conservative Citizens (white nationalist) conferences would blacklist Patty B. from such a prestigous position and Republican politics in general. This is a prime example of how fringe-ology has become standard, lasse-faire (hands off) facts and mainstream conservative dogma, and Buchanan's simply snaked too long at the White House as a Nixon and Reagan admin. groupie not to know how to have his mud cake and eat it too as far as ethics and any conscience goes (lord knows there's more where he comes from in and out of politic,s period).
The darkly humorous thing is that they (Fuhrer Buchanan and Sean Klannity here) actually acknowledge and disseminate for the rest of us the very ugliest stereotypes, behavior and manifest worldviews that can be observed of a seeming super-majority of the Republican, and to a greater extent, Tea Party-base since Obama's election; 2008 was after all the first year ever more non-white or bi-racial babies were born in the U.S. (just over 50%) so yep, those permanently shifted demographics are indeed not distant down the road. As a die-hard humanist and progressive on these matters, I'd love to say race shouldn't matter this much, if at all, in this way but such liberal cant would miss the point and genuine concern of these gentlemen! I'll tell you what I know, and that's the fact that the best jobs, education, incomes, housing and everything else will still be retained by the U.S. Caucasian populace, I don't care what any census says. But than again, the notion of actually having to tolerate and equate themselves with contrasting groups on these ends (women and LGBT's as well) is the cancer they, for whatever reason, just don't want to seem to be cured of. I really don't want to 'help' them adjust on that front, except to say that the discriminatory hiearchies and racial castes of U.S. history may soon collapse into a self-made crypt that's been long overdue. The post-racial America that we thought 'arrived' November 4th, '08 was more of a symbolized flash-in-the-pan than a fully matured initiation like all moments of patriotism and unity here, as the subsequent backlash to it made pretty black-and-white (pun intended).
It's understated and still misunderstood that if you aren't wholly or descended of Native (read: American Indian) American blood, there is for no such thing as an 'illegal immigrant' or 'legal U.S. citizens' in any technical sense, because NOBODY ELSE is here (read:CAME here) by peaceful or upstanding means. Blacks were shipped and enslaved here, wills be damned, and our European founding folks (a few of my ancestors inclusive) found it logical to decry the homekeeping Indians as 'savage animals' and worse by committing absolute genocide to them in the name of Jesus Christ and making a' new land of free, home of brave'? (apparently a theocratic and oppressive Great Britain hadn't taught them about mutual respect and good governing as well as it should have!)---and for the sake of ranting, we'll let all the discrimination thrust upon the Hispanic, Jew, and Asian communities stateside go unspoken but included, as well. Ignoring any racial outrage, injustice or eliminationism on anyone's part past, one has to ask what exactly the hell would white people (read:the nationalists/supremacists/neo-nazis,etc.) do once they had their own state or country free of those pesky minorities and immigrants? Who among them would be the 'real' or 'right' kind of white people: blue eyes, blonde hair? The Italians, Irish, and Germans?...who were once considered as big of a domestic 'threat' here as Jews and the negroes, before dropping the accents and other eccentricities, early 20th century? Protestants, Catholics, or Baptists; where, if ever, will any of their narrow pigeonholing end)? If they still had rapes, murders, theft, birth defects, religious preferences, poverty and any number of issues in that society, would the problem(s) be with THEM or, maybe, possibly...well, just that, THEM. What an existential epiphany that promises to be (*pssst---don't tell any of them we libtards said it aloud though*)!
The American Right (dis)honestly points fingers about their opponent's obsession with identity politics (gender, sex, race, religion, orientation, class, education etc.) and yet hypocritically in the name of 'individuality' continue to create the most wedge issues of all those things and so much else come election time and in their daily lives (much to our detriment), but they DO honestly just. don't. get. IT. I'd love to at least see both these ratings walruses at least live long enough to where the straight, white, Christian male isn't the invincible status quo it may have been at in the Republican Party and the U.S. as a whole, but I just don't think they'd be able to bear the trauma of not having the world and its other residents revolving around their will and ways unquestioned. Cheers (drink to that) for the future, than, if it brings what these creeps fear the most! Multi-culturalism has given us nothing wrong besides a declining number of compulsive bigots, racists and unrepentant ethnocentrics, a sin of previous generations that we are finally and collectively washing ourselves free from; whites, blacks, reds, yellows, and browns all in unison, more or less...
President Obama is like the AHCA his administration miraculously passed: marginally helpful, efficient enough to be built upon, and will only become a uniform disaster if Republicans win 2012 & repeal it (with all the other good he did)!
The end result of multiculturalism is corporatism, and that is why leftists in the U.S. are nothing but a bunch of hypocrites. These people claim to support populist economics, but in truth their only real agenda is multictulturalism, which is the engine that drives the corporatism they purport to hate. If they truly wanted economic justice, they would support communitarianism and reject cosmpolitanism.
OK. You have got to explain this to me. I have no idea how you got from multiculturalism to corporatism, let alone how it's the end result.
Heeheh! Ya, here i thought the end result of corporatism is fascism.
Is Quark coming out here?
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
In a multicultural society, people are united only by capitalism and consumerism, not communitarianism, which the basis of socialism. Capitalist societies in turn always lead to concentrated wealth, which is more or less the definition of corporatism. Therefore the end result of multiculturalism is corporatism. It should come as no surprise to anyone who actually thinks about it that the U.S. - which is the most multicultural country on the planet - is also the world center of corporate capitalism. In fact, every center of corporate power on the planet - New York, Los Angeles, London, etc. - is also a center of multiculturalism.
Hahahahah! This is ludicrous.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
I understand the problem now - you're using definitions of words that are definitions used only by you, not the rest of the planet.
It's easy to be 100% right when you're only using your own evidence. Time spent with a dictionary would open your mind.
...rather than engage in semantics?
Great point. These designations are simply ideas, without substance. They divide, while offering absolutely nothing positive in doing so.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Jesus was not a white man- yet he's always painted as a blue eyed brunette
The end result of multiculturalism is corporatism, and that is why leftists in the U.S. are nothing but a bunch of hypocrites. These people claim to support populist economics, but in truth their only real agenda is multictulturalism, which is the engine that drives the corporatism they purport to hate. If they truly wanted economic justice, they would support communitarianism and reject cosmpolitanism.
Hahahahah! That statement is ludicrous.
Hahahahah! Only a card carrying wing nut rightist would be so deluded.
Hahahaha! Leftists don't hate corporatism, they understand it has failed. And leftists don't hate corporations at all, nor do they purport to, but they understand that fascism is wrong, and fascism is what the country is facing.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
I'm sorry but it is you that are strongly mistaken, and have some mangled definitions of what 'leftism', 'cosmopolitan' and 'corporatism' but ESPECIALLY 'multiculturalism'...
First of all, the U.S. Democratic Party is actually (according to Congress legislative votes and any number of polls and surveys) fairly centrist on economic approaches and only liberal in terms of proposing/instilling social safety net increases and the welfare state as well as being moderate to progressive in supporting/defending alternative lifestyles (homosexuality and counterculture subgroups) or individual choices (like smoking pot or abortion), while maximizing the opportunities for racial, religious, and class-based minorities,etc.
The reason Republicans and the American RIght finds itself in such a rut now is because their positions on EVERYTHING have gone from being pragmatically anti-communist & anti-socialist to being rock-hard reactionary (i.e. abolishing Social Security, The Federal Reserve, and the Civil Rights/Voting Acts???---'nuff said). In comparison to the rest of the world, especially Europe, our health care, social security, medicare/medicaid, and other government programs (especially poverty-based welfare insurance) are a JOKE and inconsistent, precisely because we have this completely unfounded belief that our virtually non-existent federal taxes that would provide for them is something to actually brag about and is the embodiment of 'freedom and liberty' in the alternative universe of libertarian and conservative thinking; public interest and actual effective RESULTS be damned as far as policy goes!
BOTH Democrats and Republicans believe in the free market and capitalism, the former and rational Republicans (however few they may be) just favor occasional or frequent GOVERNMENT REGULATION and MIXED economy because big business is inherently corrupt as a result of well, human nature, to keep it simple! (case in point, the 1929 Stock Market Crash and Great Depression, which was the fault of all those Republicans who packaged and sold this B.S. package of bubble inflation and bursting would self-repair itself and create new jobs, which it never did or could until Roosevelt New Deal programs made it all possible!) The center-right Liberal Democratic Party of Japan (ironically named, I know) reigned as a one-party majority in parliament for over 50 years over that stringently conservative nation and even THEY have socialized universal health care and public education that you'd have to be chroming to touch (how America can be so ahead and yet so far behind getting what it is and has now only Jesus can answer, I swear!)
Why they don't understand, like when Clinton was president, that an equal and proportionate tax break across the board is the jackpot for us all is beyond a mystery! The man presided over the largest expansion of the Middle Class in U.S. history with historically low unemployment and poverty rates with none of this interventionist foreign policy nonsense (neo-liberalism has its flaws to be sure but anything is better than the FASCISM we are actually headed towards right now if CITIZENS UNITED bill and these other special interest/business lobbyist busybodies aren't called out and countered by us, the people!) Benito Mussolini, the actual creator of the ideology, said it best when he said "Fascism should rightly be called corporatism, because it is the merging of government and corporate power." In other words, the state becomes all in matters of blood, soil, and economy and the individual, along with any form of dissent, becomes nothing and eliminated to the 'T'!
How you equated personal liberation, equal rights, and freedom from harm (liberalism) for racial minorities with corporatism, which the only reason for existing is how to make more money at the end of the day, everyone unemployed or working/middle-class be damned, can only be a tactic ripped straight from a right-wing wing nuts manual...
President Obama is like the AHCA his administration miraculously passed: marginally helpful, efficient enough to be built upon, and will only become a uniform disaster if Republicans win 2012 & repeal it (with all the other good he did)!
My assertion is simply that corporatism goes hand-in-hand with multiculturalism. A multicultural society - by definition - is one in which people are divided along ethnic, racial, and religious lines. In such a society, socialism is clearly impossible, as people are not unified into a single community, but rather are factionalized into competing interests. In fact, the only way such a society can function is if the people are unified by something other than communitarianism, and the only logical candidate for that unifying force is commerce. Once you get to a society based solely on commerce and therefore capitalism, corporatism naturally follows, as corporatism is the end result of capitalism. Again, it is no surprise that the U.S. - which is the most culturally diverse country on the planet - is also the world center of corporatism. (In contrast, all the small, culturally homogeneous countries of northern Europe are much more economically progressive than the U.S.) Now, if what you want is a corporate society centered on consumerism, commercial development, and environmental destruction, that's fine, but don't pretend - as most progressives do - that multiculturalism isn't the engine of corporatism.
Geez, Pat, the least you could do is make the trains run on time or something.
Pat Buchanan and Nathan Bedford Hannity. What a pair.
You can get the same effect as listening to these two
by hitting yourself over the head with a mallet for half an hour.
Charles Almon
Because the elite 1% have rewritten the business laws to destroy the middle class, and the bought politicians have done their bidding for 30 FREAKING years! Pat is nobody, his opinion is worthless nonsense and EVERYONE knows it. We're ALL in this boat together, America is sinking and OWS is our final hope to keep the Titanic from sinking.
Is it the 21st century yet?
The entire world is eagerly awaiting the day when WHITE MEN have to SHARE power with the rest of us. We are the 99% in this too!
Get used to it.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Translation of Pat's entire book:
Minorities aren't bad for America, so long as they stay in the minority. Everyone is equal so long as white people remain in charge.
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