Mitt Romney stood up for those poor downtrodden corporate "people" that those evil liberals who crashed his event in Iowa this Thursday were asking to have their taxes raised on, but if you're one of the long-term unemployed, well, it appears you're on your own.
During the Republican debate in Iowa, when asked if he would extend unemployment benefits for those who are about to lose their benefits in a few months, not only did Romney say that he would not extend them, but he also touted the idea of privatizing unemployment benefits and changing our current system to one offering unemployment insurance savings accounts.
What could possibly go wrong? I haven't read much on this, so I'm no expert and it would be nice to hear more from anyone who is in the comments section, but this just looks to this layman as another way to draw money out of another one of our social safety nets in the name of "personal responsibility." Romney said this would "make the system work better by giving people responsibility for their own employment opportunities." That's rich since they don't have much control over those "opportunities" if there are no jobs to be found in the first place. Not everyone's got a rich family and the "opportunity" to become some multimillionaire vulture capitalist like our buddy Mittens here did. Some of us have to make money the old fashioned way, like actually working for it.
And god knows with some of the greatest income disparity since the Gilded Age, we can't have our priorities be spending more money on anti-poverty programs, now can we? No, better to be reducing those taxes and burdensome regulations on those "job creators" because the have-mores are just struggling so badly right now in Mitt Romney and the GOP's fantasy-land. Heaven forbid we do anything to hurt their feelings or they might go Galt on us and leave the country and take their jobs with them.
Oh wait, that ship has sailed already, hasn't it? When I hear one of these birds start talking about fixing our trade imbalances and tying these tax cuts they love so much to job creation in the United States, I'll believe that they actually care one iota about doing anything productive to fix our unemployment problems in America. Sadly, we're not hearing that from any of them other than members of the Progressive Caucus in the House of Representatives right now.
Karoli adds:
Romney's tossed-off remark here about changing the nature of UI is a proposal that we don't hear a lot about, but which is a fondly-held right wing dream. Kochtopus Member Mercatus Center jumped on the bandwagon in early 2010 with this policy paper, right in the middle of a debate over extending UI for a few extra paltry weeks. Here's the gist of their "recommendation":
Unemployment insurance is meant to support workers who lose their jobs during downturns. However, public unemployment insurance produces unintended consequences,leading to lower prosperity. A more effective approach to providing support for workers is to establish Unemployment Insurance Savings Accounts (UISA).13 These individual savings accounts are funded by a percentage of wages contributed by the employee and employer in lieu of the compulsory contributions currently made by employers to public trust funds. When an individual becomes unemployed, she may access the account. If the individual is never unemployed, she can roll those savings into a retirement account.
UISA eliminates the perverse incentives of publicly provided benefits. Workers must finance their own unemployment, providing an incentive to avoid job loss and increase the job search effort during unemployment. Reducing the payroll tax on employers would increase wages, leading to higher contributions to UISA accounts. While the current program is a tax on all of the employed (some of whom will never use the benefit), a UISA belongs to an individual worker. Essentially, UISA is a form of forced savings: A worker's contribution to the unemployment account is paid directly back to her.14 Chile adopted this approach in 2003, and empirical data suggests that most Chilean workers are better off as a result.15 Employees contribute 0.6 percent of monthly earnings, and employers contribute a further 2.4 percent to an individual savings account. An unemployed worker may draw between 30 to 50 percent of the previous wage for up to five months.16 Upon retirement, unused unemployment savings roll into the worker's personal savings account.17
A couple of quick thoughts on this. First, the whole thing is yet another way to wrest workers' safety nets away and hand them to Wall Street. Can you imagine being a worker with money in these accounts and having it subject to the whims of these markets? Please. And second, the Chilean model purports to get those "deadbeats" back to work, but there is absolutely no evidence it decreases the unemployment rate or protects workers. None. All it does is create a situation where a worker will do whatever they can with no job security or benefits simply to make ends get closer to each other even if they don't actually meet. It was started in 2002. In 2009, Chile's poverty rate rose for the very first time in 23 years. And guess what? It was attributable to joblessness and the global economic crisis. Oh, and here's some more detail on Chile and the student protests over student debt, access to education, and income disparity from yesterday. Ah, yes, the Great Conservative Experiment.
Guess that didn't work out so well for them.
Transcript below the fold.
FERRECHIO: Gov. Romney, you suggested replacing government jobless benefits with individual employment savings accounts. Jobless benefits for millions of Americans are about to expire in just a few months. If you were president right now, would you extend them?
ROMNEY: We've got a lot of people out of work. We've got a president that has a entirely failed economic policy and frankly doesn't know what to do to get this economy going again. Surely we're going to help those people who can't find other ways to care for themselves. But the most important thing we're talking about tonight is making sure that President Obama is replaced by someone who knows how to get this economy going again.
That's what this debate is really about. And that's what the American people want to understand. Unemployment benefits – I think they've gone on a long, long time. We have to find ways to reduce our spending on a lot of the anti-poverty programs and unemployment programs, but I would far rather see a reform of our unemployment system to allow people to have a personal account, which they're able to draw from, as opposed to having endless unemployment benefits.
So again, let's reform the system – make the system work better by giving people responsibility for their own employment opportunities and having that account, rather than doling out year after year, more money from an unemployment system.
FERRECHIO: A real quick follow up. Would you sign a bill to extend unemployment insurance if you were president right now?
ROMNEY: If I were president right now, I would go to Congress with a new system for unemployment which would have specific accounts which people could withdraw their own funds and I would not put in place a continuation of the current plan.





Any privatization has been a fiasco. They assume that non-government services are more efficient, but they are not. They are more costly and less efficient.
Privatised service are done at a lower cost but that's how much it costs the corporation what they charge is a whole other story. It's called profit, the gap between what it cost's them and what services they actually provide and how much they charge for them.
Now add in wildly inflated nepotistic executive salaries, advertising (absolutely necessary to try to convince the public the abysmal services they are getting are way better than they really are and that the countless problems are just isolated cases) and a whole team of lawyers (to fight of criminal investigations and massive failures in services until the whole thing collapses with billions of dollars missing).
It not just that privatised are worse and the taxpayer ends up paying more for less, it's that ultimately the service will collapse completely and require a hugely expensive government takeover and all the corporate arseholes know it.
Sounds great Mittens. We can let the corporate welfare quens like you skim 30% off the top for handing out the checks, and let the unemployed get by on what's left over.
FOAD you asshole!
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
He is channeling Ronnie Raygunz now. Government should not interfere with the lifestyle choices of the poor, the homeless, and the unemployed. Every single thing the government does could be altered so that investors can make a profit from it. That is capitalism, bloody in tooth and claw. We have contracted out the prisons and judges make a profit on every incarceration. We have contracted out war and mercenaries make a profit on death. Business men like Romney have been trying for years to figure out how to make a legal profit on poverty without soiling their hands on the trafficking trade. I'm sure they will find a way to make indentured servitude perfectly legal again.
These are some truly nasty specimens.
Amen.
Wake up T-baggers.
Quit rotting your brain on FOX channel propaganda.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Extremely well said, T!
What a maroon....
Congratulations Iowa Repugs, you really are as dumb as the world thought.
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their choices were pretty low end.
Parry's answer to traffic congestion and pot holes in Texas has been TOLL ROADS. It now costs $12 to drive the bypass toll road 130, to avoid driving thru down town Austin. Our "free"way, US35, is broken and crumbling... delivering "injury accidents" almost every day... and becomes a commuters' PARKING LOT from 6:30 to 9 am... and 4:00 to 7pm EVERY DAY... Like Governor GOOD-HAIR gives a damn.
My Roth IRA since 2008 has done nothing but gone down even when the market is up. Looking over it the vast majority of the profits are being siphoned off to pay millions to the fund manager and the rest are vanishing into the fees. I make more money leaving money in a standard savings account. All idiot Mittens wants to do is shift taxpayers money into the hands of Wallstreet brokers.
Just privatize America and throw it in the gutter.
You feckers will be alright.
Bite my shiny metal ass.
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I'm no expert either, but ..
My guess is those "unemployment insurance savings accounts" would be deposited in a BANK.
And that, right there, seems on the face of it to be "what could possibly go wrong".
The broader issue is the same as always.
The vultures find us easier prey when as individuals we are separated from the group.
Whereas the strength of a society stems from concern for the collective good - the General Welfare.
Why do they hate the Common Good? Why do they hate America? Don't they have enough already?
Vultures.
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
rick parry lured companies to texas, but relocating workers to texas is not creating jobs.
"I propose we give my corporate pals a free piece of the gummint money pie! Several private companies will administer UEI in wildly different manners while skimming loadsa money off the top! People will have to spend the first day of their new jobs trying to decide which plan to pick. The upshot will be shitty coverage, less money for the unemployed, and bags of dosh and trebles all around for my lo-tax buddies!"
me-oww!
Let's just open up the banking cartels to offer low interest (for first 90 days) loans to the unemployed- where they can live a decent life for a period of time, while seeking gainful employment.
Extensions will come later with (of course) a higher interest rate.
Sound about right?
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is future gods, to the manor born, telling the unemployed (by no fault of their own) that they needed to have saved more money in case they ever became unemployed. If there is a hell, he'll be strapped to the roof of a car while suffering from painful non-stop diarrhea.
And put a little aside in your other pocket for medical expenses as well. This is called taking responsibility for your own healthcare, and it will save money because people will not go to the doctor so much if they are paying for it themselves. And while you are setting money aside, put some in another pocket for retirement. This is called taking responsibility for your own old age.
At this point you can see if you run out of money before you run out of pockets.
What a fucking joke.....you are a fucking joke.
Edit: sorry, was that post sarcasm? I've made that mistake before.
Bite my shiny metal ass.
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You are a blithering idiot.
What about all the kids who get cancer and cannot see a Dr. because they haven't saved enough money yet?
Where do people as stupid and psychotic as you are come from?
Really? Is there some unchartered planet that sends all of their defective evil morons to the earth?
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
Uh, that looks pretty clearly like sarcasm to me. You two might ease back off the hair trigger a bit.
Of course he'd like private accounts, as is transparent to virtually everybody but the Republican pawns, Wall Street gets to play with the money the whole time, and you don't have access to it unless you lose your job. Only contributed $500? Too bad, after fees we'll divvy it out to you over 52 weeks, that $10/week will look pretty sweet, won't it?
They despise unemployment insurance because it spreads the risk to all god fearing folk. Never lose your job because daddy owns the company, great! You're helping the poor saps you just put out of work to "earn" your bonus. That's what they hate. Helping anybody but their own greedy selves. It burns 'em from the inside out.
Too bad. Get f*cking used to it @ssholes.
My hammer, which is a person, dislikes Mitt Romney. Told me so himself. Did you know hammers are people? Says so, right there in the Constitution. All the benefits of hammering go directly to people. Did so quo pro. It's like Latin, only better.
Given Romney's record as a crappy governor and as a job-killing corporate raider before that, does he PROMISE to leave if we're mean to him?
The GOP wants us to have health saving accounts to pay for our inflated private health care which is a major driver in making the country uncompetitive. They want to privatize SS with personal retirement accounts where Wall St can churn lots of fees from every unsophisticated investor and now private unemployment accounts. With all this savings taken out of American income, what is going to be left to live on NOW?
Since only a small percentage of worker are suppose to be unemployed at a time the worker and their employers only have to play a small percentage of their wages into the plan to get a 50% payout when they become unemployed. If each individual had to pay into their own account then they and their employer would have to pay a far larger portion of their wages into the account or they will get a far smaller benefit. The man is an idiot are even worse he thinks were are idiots.
wants to privatize unemployment?
Is he going to give everyonne an amount in proportion to what you've paid in? He wants you to be responsible for yourselfs, then you need to take the gloves off and stop being nice. Don't pander to this asshole or any of the other ones. Bachman says she wants to return america to greatness and leader ship in the world. To all my friends on this blog I am sorry,BUT THERE IS A SNOWBALLS CHANCE IN HELL of that if this stupid bitch were to win. I hope you all hammer her on tough questions like that guy did to mitt the other day.
Damn, Romney is sounding as fucking stupid as Perry. And Batshit Bachmann is driving the clown car that is now the GOP.
If you could afford a great hair styling daily and to fly into wherever USA daily and never carry your own groceries and have a driver at all times and somebody else picks out your clothes, you are a Republican candidate for president who laid off American workers and sent their jobs overseas to make millions.
Hare stilists, grocer baggars, taxzie dribers, and dri kleen yobs are some of the yobs what da merican peeple nead know dat dere arn't beein soo meny knew boarder yumpers.
I'm surprised he hasn't advocated a Dickens style for profit debtors prisons.
The prisons are a for profit racket, particulalry in Texas and Arizona- imagine debtors prisons are the next money making venture, where money could be made rounding up and imprisoning immigrants and those below the poverty line. That day may be coming.
There will come a day when being poor will be seen as crime- not against society, but against the poor person.
That day is already here for a lot of folks. http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2...
I'm unemployed and sell my possessions on Ebay to pay my rent- I have no health insurance- can't afford it- Does Mittens have any idea what it's like not to have money???
What did you expect? He does, however, consider himself unemployed.
republican privatization thing to its logical conclusion: privatize the entire government, congress, the courts and the military. you think being audited is a pain in the ass now? ha! you ain't seen nothing yet bud! wait until revenue agents get a % of whatever additional tax liability they come up with, as a result of examining your tax return. trust me, you'll long for the good old days. hehe
So let me see how this will work. You pay into some privatized unemployment insurance plan, say like health insurance. When you lose your job, they find 1000 different reasons why they can't pay your claim. Yes, I can see it working.
Scammers, all of 'em.
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I suggest we privatize and outsource politicians. Make them "at will" employees of the American people. Then at any time they fail to fulfill their constituents demands FIRE them... No golden parachute retirement, insurance or benefits of any kind. Kick them to the curb just like corporations do.
Get rid of career politicians. Term limits and NO PENSIONS, that should save us some money right now.
Term limits are a dumb idea--they get rid of people for the wrong reasons. As an alternative I suggest making political lying, disinformation, and exaggeration capital crimes. That would get rid of both bad politicians and their enablers, such at Fox News.
ALL these asshats (no matter which Party) have to depend on these unemployment benefits
with a net worth of about $290,000,000? god, i hate this fucker.
Yes, it is easy for Rumnay to say we should cut spending on poverty programs: he has a number of McMansions and about 50 million in the bank. Rumnay should be paying higher taxes on his wealth since, obviously, he makes more than $250 grand a year. Only accidents of birth make Rumnay what he is and a homeless man what he is. I call this dismissal of the poor "ignorance." The Rumnays of this world, who specialize in throwing people out of jobs rather than creating them, are simply ignorant of the decency of helping others less fortunate than you are. To say nothing taking vacations with the family dog on the roof of their SUV. Rumnay would treat the poor and the middle class worse than he treats Fido.
"Respect for the rights of others is peace." --Benito Juarez
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