McCain Throws in With Sarah Palin: Agrees That VHA Pamphlet is "Kind of a Death Panel"
John McCain embraces his former running mate Sarah Palin's "death panel" rhetoric on Sean Hannity's show last night and throws in a little fear mongering about socialized medicine for good measure. I want to know when McCain is going to give up his government health care since he thinks it's so scary.
HANNITY: Senator, your running mate, Governor Sarah Palin, came out with a very hard-hitting posting on Facebook, which I agreed with especially in light of what we've seen in Great Britain and Canada and elsewhere.
And then we had the Obama administration that brought back this book that the Bush administration had gotten rid of, "Your Life, Your Choices." They go through a series of scenarios with veterans at VA hospitals and nursing homes, which basically says, well, you know, you don't want to be a burden to society, to your family.
Is that the kind of death panel that maybe people were afraid of when they read pages 425 to 430 of the House bill?
MCCAIN: Yes, but I think they're also concerned because they're well read, they're well informed, they're knowledgeable. They know what's happening in other countries where basically there is a rationing of health care particularly when people reach a certain age as to what kind of treatment they can and if they can get it.
The incredible delays in acquiring that kind of care, so I think it's and not just that, I think it's the example of government-run health care in other countries which is not — America is not ready for that.
You can feel it...they're getting desperate. It's time the administration put the Repubs on the ropes about this. Obama has the ear of the American people right now. He needs to come out like a damn prize fighter, call out BY NAME the rebup leaders who are slinging this nonsense around the right wing air waves. It's a desperate and disgusting tactic of misinformation and misdirection. I wish Obama would just come out and say "We're essentially extending Medicare to all". Force the Hannity's of the world to try to smear Medicare instead of some made up health care plan they "report on" to instill fear in their viewers. I keep seeing right wing trolls talk about how "no one has read this bill!!!!" (extraneous exclam. points theirs) It's obvious they are the ones who haven't read it, otherwise they wouldn't swallow the tripe the fox feeds them every day. MMM...doesn't that taste good? Now take this gun and shoot yourself in the foot.
start landing some serious punches.
Not going to happen though.
He IS from the Chicago school of hard knocks...
he may surprise us yet.
That said...I ain't holding my breath.
because the alternative frightens me.
If the spin/lies/terrorist attacks of the GOP work to kill this bill, there will be nothing to stop them, and truth and honesty will be a thing of the past.
This is a pivot point in our history.
already needs to be killed. It doesn't offer reform, without the public option. It mandates everyone buy health insurance, penalizes you for 2.5% of your gross adjusted income on your tax return if you don't have it. It also penalizes businesses for not offering insurance with a "Pay or Plan" plan.
And, as of now, it has no public option for an affordable choice! Even the house compromise has provisions that will force the current watered-down public option to charge premiums as high as private.
If you are too poor (defined as 400% of the poverty level) to buy insurance, you will get a government subsidy to help you with that mandated insurance purchase. There are no controls on the prices that insurance companies can charge. There are rules to make them cover more, which they can then charge more for, and the government will subsidize them.
See what they did there?
and it's a POS. This is nothing more than page after page of a privaization scam. the so-called public option is a joke; it isn't an option to join medicare, it's an option to buy pooled insurance at rates that are artificially constrained so as not to undercut the insurance racketeers' rates. Every limitation placed upon the insurance companies, is later nullified with loop holes.
The politicians who are crafting this rip-off should be ashamed of themselves. The majority of members of congress really do not represent the People any longer, and they don't seem to care or understand that they don't. The institution is broken, corrupted. This whole fiasco can be taken as the penultimate argument for solely publicly funded campaigns and the barring of contacts with elected officials outside petitions or public hearings and meetings. The lobbyists and corporations have corrupted this institution almost beyond all hopes of salvage.
HR-676, as a matter of justice, and as a line in the sand.
has it? Couldn't Obama come back with a version of expanding Medicare, like we all want, and tell them to suck it up?
What would be real reform is so far removed from what this bill offers, legislature would be better off starting a new bill. (HR 676 is already a better start, yes to Paul).
Since both proposed bills (house and senate) have the same insidious provisions, the reconciliation will be resolving things like:
- what is the sliding scale for subsidies up to 400% poverty
- is 150% or 133% of povery too poor to be forced to buy in
- is the 2.5% percentage of income penalty capped
- how small a business is too small to avoid the penalties
It doesn't matter what you pick, it's still crap.
Obama *has* to threaten to veto this if the public option isn't still there and a real public option. The "public option" in the bill is not what those words imply.
Honestly, I'm not sure we can trust Obama to veto. He was right when he said the public option was the only proce control in the original (not watered down) bill. If the progressive caucus in the House can't kill it (for not having a real public option and just being government subsidies left in it) ... we the people, taxpayers, small business owners, people who can't get affordable premiums now .. we are all toast.
this is a pivotal point. Either Obama shows himself to be just another corporatist, or he stands up to the pubs and bluemutts and says "You guys had your chance. Now it's my turn."
Is it at all possible he has an alternate (or maybe HR676) waiting in the wings?
HR 676 was introduced in the 2007-2008 so it pre-dates Obama. It is a House bill too, so he in the Senate had nothing to do with it.
Perhaps he has an alternative. I hope he has a strategy. He was lukewarm on health care reform on the campaign trail iirc, but got talked into supporting public option. It may come down to what advisers he listens to after the final bill's text is known.
The fact he backed off public option, then echoed the "level playing field public option" phrase in his last address is depressing. That is the specific wording the Blue Dogs use for the watered-down public option.
He is a corporatist to his core, a willful and ardent servant of the elites. That his rhetoric does on occasion sound progressive means nothing. His actions speak louder than his words, and those actions have never been progressive or liberal. It appears to me that his assigned role in all of this is to create a fog from behind which the dirty work can be accomplished. When the fog finally clears, we'll all find out that, once again, we've been screwed, blued and tattoed. And the assumption is that all momentum will be spent; there will be no undoing of what has been done.
He will then try and talk he and his corporate masters' way out of it, to put lipstick on the 1 ton pig that they've raised with such loving care. But, there is a lesson that Obama appears to have not yet learned: you cannot talk your way out of a situation you have acted yourself into. He will find that his gift for lofty-sounding rhetoric isn't going to work. It will backfire. The man is not a Democrat, he is a corporatist Republican-lite. He will no longer be able to plausibly claim otherwise. And he will get his ass handed to him in 2012.
I would rather see no health"care" reform if all it is going to end up being is this health insurance giga-coproate welfare program that they are getting ready to deploy against the us. Few would agree with me, but I think that time favors momentum for a single-payer system. And the continuance of this collective butt-fucking that we are currently suffering only works towards overcoming the apathy and credulity of the electorate: the greed and rapaciousness of the the insurance racketeers is being indugled with progressively fewer and less restraints, and it is reaching the point that the propaganda from the MSM can no longer provide cover for it. As that process unfolds, it's going to turn a lot more heads, and awaken a lot more sleepers. Things will gravitate towards a major revolution in the ballot box, or in the streets if the ballot box fails.
No longer looks or talks like the Obama on the campaign trail...
Obama fits in more with Emanuel and his blue dogs then the progressive he promise a CHANGE and a transparent government to..
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Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory ever since the DLC took over the Democratic party for the PUKIES. PUKIES like Arlen Spector have already started moving into the Democratic Party to take it over and silence the voices of particular issues, women's reproductive freedom, gay non-rights, immigration, REAL Healthcare, ............progressive voices have also been silenced in BLOODYISRAEL and every other rightwingnutter country.
I'm personally hoping Joe Sestak mops the deck with Specter's ass.
I have never had any money to contribute to campaigns, but I will find a way to support Sestak. O bought ma, also supports Arlen. God may forgive him, but I do not.
but this Specter thing is a cynical and contemptuous insult that demands a response.
LOL! Cultists are insane.
ever had too.
Hell they'll buy anything.
...has had nothing BUT socialized medicine his whole fucking life, this is just fucking amazing.
What an incredible ass hole he is.
I could not have said it better except for "For a guy who......has had nothing BUT socialized medicine his whole fucking life and whose political and social accomplishments are outweighed by (1-ply) toilet tissue, this is just fucking amazing.
What an incredible ass hole he is
Would you believe the words from this person....
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/22/mcca...
McCain.. The 'Anti-Lobbyist' Who Works With Lobbyists
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McCain aided developer's bargain-price purchase of Fort Ord land
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http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/28/us/politics...
McCain and Team Have Many Ties to Gambling Industry
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http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/keating...
Voters should know the facts about John McCain's poor judgment -- judgment that has twice placed him on the wrong side of history.
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reading about McCain's POW years and nefarious activities since
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John McCain's campaign has directed $175,000 to the firm of a Republican operative accused of massive voter registration fraud in several states.
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McCain Stiffs U.S. Workers, Helps Europeans Win Air Tanker Deal
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John, you just make me tired all over. It's bad enough to have to kill your constituents and brag about it, but to have to listen to you talk.... You are tired old man. You have taken too many drugs, too many bribes, and kissed to many rings. None of them got you what you wanted except the people that bought you the senator's gig. Tell us again about your great combat experience? You have almost a whole week in the thick of it! They will love your stories at the county home for the aged that your government insurance will buy you.
...we are supposed to have SOME modicum of respect for elected officials, but Johnny Boy, Old Yellow Teeth, you really are a dithering fool. I don't see anything in this man that says "maverick" or any other kind of tough, badass, honest adjectives that some apply to this man. Retire, Sen. McCain, for the good of the country.
Oldtree describes the feeling well:
Just listening to you makes me tired. If you are just going to go through the motions for the rest of your time as a senator, then please. GO. AWAY.
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
Does McCain read at all. Was he in the military at any time? Then why is he saying this garbage, other than to be a dirty politician.
veterans and veterans benefits every chance they get???
Even when they might be Vets themselves. It's like preaching fiscal responsibility and then racking up dept... It's like preaching moral majority and cheating on your wife.... It's like demonizing gays and going into a bathroom for male-male sex.... Yeah, it's like that.
was busy being a frat-boy in the military and blowing up the USS Forestal, along with a few good men and schwabbies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chuiyXQKw3I
It is believed by many crewmen and investigators that John McCain deliberately 'wet-started' his A-4E to shake up the guy in the plane behind his A-4. 'Wet-starts' shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft.
In McCain's case, the 'wet-start' apparently 'cooked off' and launched the Zuni rocket from the rear F-4 that touched off the explosions."
134 sailors were killed on the USS Forrestal in 1967.
Why does theis clown still have any credibility?
Look, I'm no McCain fan, but the video and reports indicate that the Zuni rocket flew all the way across the flight deck to hit John McCain's A-4. Even if he did "wet-start" his A-4, there is no way in hell that would have caused the rocket to fire from a plane completely on the other side of the deck.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1967_USS_Forrest...
Plus, according to the diagram, any fire shooting out of the tail of the A-4 would have been in the opposite direction of the F-4.
Now, I confess I don't know much about planes or bombs or rockets, but I just can't see how John McCain could have been held accountable for this. What am I missing?
ok, now that we have formal introductions out of the way....
mccain spittles "in other countries where basically there is a rationing of health care particularly when people reach a certain age as to what kind of treatment they can and if they can get it."
i know mccain is unfamiliar with privatized healthcare, and is proud of his ignorance, but--if hannity's show wasn't about fear mongering--someone should have mentioned that the one thing common throughout the entire privatized health system in america is rationing and denial of care.
United States at each others throats and not paying attention to the mass genocide of our present and future occurring at this very minute.
(Got to keep those Corporate contributors happy.)
...........happy with lies, upon lies, upon lies.
What a hero!!!
The only "death panel" John McCain ever saw was the controls of his fighter plane.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
Robert Benmosche who starts his first day at work for bailout poster child AIG from his massive villa in Croatia . . no doubt wiring "gifts" to McCain saying . . "Keep up the good work! Good Show!! Break a leg!!"
our veterans care if he could, so I don't have any use for his lame ass opinion. And I'm damn sick and tired of these dirty Republicans attacking our Veterans Administration and us veterans. BACK OFF ATTACKING VETERANS GRAMPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Songbird needs to quietly fade away.
the dreaded and much feared "Section 1233" *rising organ music*
those five pages contain such HORROR scenarios, such as:
A consultation under this subsection may include the formulation of an order regarding life sustaining treatment or a similar order.
effectively communicates the individual’s preferences regarding life sustaining treatment, including an indication of the treatment and care desired by the individual;
the HORROR!!!!
getting the death panel-fearing crowd to actually read these 5 short pages is akin to leading a horse to water. you can provide them with the actual bill, let them read it, study it, talk about it, whatever. but, nah, they would rather suckle from sean hannity's man boobs instead for their political sustenance.
It takes more than a-hole Republicans to screw up the world; it takes legions of dumb, gullible, fearful Americans who believe every stupid thing they hear on TV.
And if I hear one more respectable Democrat say how much he respects John McCain and what a great statesman is John McCain, I think I'll puke.
McCain wil be running again for Senator from Arizona so I guess he has to play to the lunatic part of this voters. I guess saying batshit crazy things is the new Maverick.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Hey "honest Hohn" in what other countrties is this rationaing taking place? Will somebody ask him that question? Maybe Palin can see the rationing from her house.
Pukies seem to have a plan for McInsane/Palin because they are sure keeping the stupid bitch's comments alive.
She is the perpetual gift...
She is a perpetual zit on the asshole of America.
When Sarah Palin speaks...brain cells die.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
I've made grocery snakes smarter than them two knuckleheads!
I just wish someone would ask McCain if he knows what the word "choice" means-as in, the public option would be a choice and people could keep their existing health care plan.
And after he mumbles and wanders and bullshits his way into a non-answer, follow up with challenging him to show the exact wording in the bill that supports his point of view.
All these people have are lies, fear-mongering and appeals to the racists and far-right christian bigots.
If and when I want information on Veterans Healthcare I will listen Tammy Duckworth over McLame every time.
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising liberty and justice for all
I shuddered to read this and it made me a little weepy (for joy) that McSame / Falin' aren't in power.
Our airmen are glad that McCain is not flying jets anymore.
Wolves are glad that Palin is not flying in prop planes anymore.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
I thought terrorist were supposed to be our biggest fear. Is our biggest fear now that everyone will get the health care they need? How the hell do you fight an enemy like that? I guess you threaten them with death panels and rationing (which is just a dog whistle for death panels without sounding as fu*king crazy)
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Surely he must, since he's opposed to Federal health care.
Alan Grayson for President, Elizabeth Warren for Vice President, and Paul Krugman for Secretary of the Treasury!
McCain will pathetically be defensive of Palin and anything she says until the day he dies. She is his albatross for life.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
is what I'm going to label Fox from now on. If the others aren't going to start calling the rightwing fascist corporatist neocons out, I will be putting the label on them also.
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I think McCain is really going senile now, with him still defending the ignorant pig with lipstick he ran with. The quitter thankfully took him down the the sewer.
Politicians get better medical care and life extension "technology" then the bottom 99%.
He trapped himself when he picked her. No matter what she says of does now he can't crticize her because it would reflect back on his wisdom and his decision to pick her in the first place.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
he waas on Hannity's show. Can't go disagreeing with the host.
When someone goes on Hannity's show does the station provide them with a big pile of bullshit or is the guest expected to bring their own with them?
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
if you're not already full of it.
Hannity feeds him the answer in the way he frames the question.
I haven't listened or watched Hannity in months.
I think my hair is growing back!
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
She SWALLOWS, this piece of garbage is suppose to be a hero, in a way your right he he a COWARD and FAILURE just like the RNC Racist Nazi Christians the party of HATE and the Party of NO. SCUMBAG SELLOUT
I wonder how much it costs citizens to keep McCain alive?
I wonder if they can include a death clause in his policy? Snark!
turning him into Solyent green.
really is devoid of all honor, isn't he? Not a trace or remnant of it anywhere in his entire being. He is completely untrustworthy. Aside from being a clinically definable sociopath, he is also insane...in the way that utter, soul permeating dishonesty so thoroughly estranges one from reality that the end result is the equivalent of insanity. It is astonishing that one such as he is given any kind of public forum by our so-called press. That he is can only be ascribed to the press's own irredeemable corruption and is a reflection of how thorough the press has been subverted and suborned.
In a rational world, this pathetic little man would be safely locked away in a padded room.
He don't need no stinking reality.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
Reality is what he says it is.
I think McCain is a desperate old man. He had his big shot at being President, and his last shot, then he allowed himself to be talked into picking Palin. It was like crashing his last plane in life. He failed. He let someone talk him into doing something he didn't want to do and it was one of his biggest mistakes in life. Deep inside he probably won't admit it but he knows that his choice of her was one of the biggest mistakes of he's ever made. Now he has brought himself down to her level and he has no choice but to stay there the rest of his life. The college party boy, the big shot pilot, the husband of a millionare, the son of a man whose stature he could never obtain, allowed himself forever to live his life defending an idiot. Tough shit, John. Funny the way you treated the women in your life and then it was a woman who shut the door on any future success you might have had.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Bravo, POP!
Well said, POP!
You rock, Lady.
BTW, that's justice, which is often so sublte that it's operation often escapes the notice of the one upon whom it is visited. And McCain is nothing if he is not oblivious.
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escapes it.
we are lucky enough to watch it happen. What a gift.
POP, I'm a big ol' homo, but...will you marry me? :)
Tater1, I have been crazy happy married for almost 23 years, but I would honored to be your friend.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Palin was picked by McCain. Any dimwitted republican strategist would have carefully vetted her and told him she that was the kiss of death. He's a maverick, remember? Only voted with Bush 95% of the time. He thinks outside the box. Waaaaaay outside. Nobody is going to tell HIM what to do.
Not even LIEberman, who might very well have given McCain the win if he had been selected as a running mate with the illusion of bipartisanship.
How many conservative votes did he lose because people were afraid of Caribou Barbie's finger on the button?
perfect!!!
If only McCain would read this...it just might make him a tad paranoid, wondering who this woman is that can see into his demented mind & very bankrupt soul.
Does this comment make me look like I'm blushing, because I am. Thank you.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
You're amongst friends.
Hey how does one contact Hannity to share a little truth about the Canadian health care system? I' am sick to death of uninformed buffoons like him going off about a system he's never experienced and know nothing about.
button on their website. But they aren't interested in the truth: they do propaganda, not journalism.
Pretty sure it begins with taking a wooden mallet to his largish noggin.
but it would do no good to try to educate Hannity...you & I and probably many other Canadians could all email him & he'd just pass it off as a few 'socialist hippy types'.
There is no talking to these people...they are paid far too much money and enjoy far too much attention...they really do believe they are quite special.
There is money spent, far beyond our wildest dreams, keeping much more 'important' people (i.e. elected officials) spewing the message that corporate America wants spread...there is little hope of ever reaching these vacuous talking heads.
"There is money spent, far beyond our wildest dreams, keeping much more 'important' people (i.e. elected officials) spewing the message that corporate America wants spread...there is little hope of ever reaching these vacuous talking heads."
I only very recently realized that because what you say is true, and although at the moment it appears to be anything but, the U.S. is a failed state. We're in a death spiral. The original animating spirit has already departed, and it is only inertia that is keeping the carcass in motion. The only thing that the complete and total corruption of our political system is accomplishing is the bleeding-off the what inertia remains, at a rate that is faster than would otherwise happen. Not a happy thought.
The rationing is already happening. And it's based on class, which is based on income. "Can you afford it?" is how we're rationing it now. The question is, is that a fair and equitable basis for deciding who lives and who dies?
For rich Republicans, I guess they figure it's entirely fair. If you're not smart enought, or well-connected enough to have "earned" the bucks that entitle you to healthcare, then you are on the ration list and you won't get it. After all, poor people don't contribute all that much to society, so why bother keeping them around, right?
McCain defines "rich":
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mP-0pedQeGw
because insurance companies "control utilization" of insurance: they deny coverage and practice recission.
Think maybe he is gearing up for another McCain/Palin run in 2012? Or maybe a Palin/McCain and then he could be the new Cheney...I hope so.
The Dork Lard Cheney/Lord Voldemort ticket. Or equivalent. They really are that stupid and short-sighted.
So, the old bastard get boo'd a little bit and realizes "hey, I'm in the screw-ball party and I better start acting like it!!!"
Gampa McCain should be put in a home, anyone who is that far removed from his on thoughts and ideas should not be in a position to decide anything for anybody (maybe even himself).
We didn't let this batshit crazy old fool into the Whitehouse!
If we had it would have been as bad as bush/chenny, maybe worse.
It is a proven fact that republicanism is a mental illness!
It's a spiritual disease.Leprosy of the soul.
I really like that. May I use it?
Once I post something, if it ends up being true, it's no longer mine, it's everybody's.
As an Arizona resident, over the last 15 years I've watched closely as Senator McCain has jumped out with some "maverick" positions, only to be meekly dragged back into the GOP herd within 2-3 days. This was even worse during his 2008 presidential campaign, where he seemed to lose even that pseudo-maverick pose, along with the rest of his personality.
Anyone have a theory on this? Is the man just an attention whore, who says controversial things so people will notice him? Or does he have a sort of policy-oriented Tourette's syndrome, where he just can't control himself? Or does Mr. McCain perhaps actually mean what he says, but his GOP masters have some sort of extortion material they hold over him?
I'm always amused by the possibility that somebody is pulling the senator's strings. McCain extortion material might be something as simple as his recorded POW confession from the Hanoi Hilton. There's no way any reasonable person could fault the man on this -- the bastards tortured him until he gave the same sort of bogus confession that so many other POWs gave. But someone has apparently managed to keep the documented recording out of public hands for a long, long time. I wonder.
It should be clear by now that EVERY candidate for president has been thoroughly vetted by our corporate industrial masters long before the nominating conventions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqImkDgDwHU
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
the Kennedys asked McCain to speak at their Irish Catholic Wake last night. Why!?! He's a piece of it. I agree with rightrevreg that the Repugs are desperate. Terrified. They know how close its coming to the end of the gravy train. They'll only be allowed to have one hand in the cookie jar instead of two. That's got to be crushing for them.
The USA is collapsing -- it's like watching a train wreck in slow motion. The mouth breathers who let their limbic brains be manipulated by the GOP know the gig is up but don't place the onus where it belongs. Instead they let douche bags like McCain -- who voted against a veteran's health care bill back when Bush the Douche was president -- go all deather on them.
I think we liberals ought to get the panel in place post haste! I want Sarah the useless c*** to be first in line!
I'm in a mood today. I miss Teddy.
"By words the mind is winged." - Aristophanes
miss Ted.
If I may point out the obvious:
THIS "pamphlet" was written in 2003 (and revised in 2007) UNDER THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION.
* There are two types of Republicans: millionaires and suckers.
"Mugsy's Rap Sheet": Recording history for those who seek to rewrite it.
Don't go letting the truth spoil everything.
NOBODY 2012
How much do you want to bet that in a few years when McCain starts dying of old age he will indeed, if he already hasn't, participate in end-of-life planning like any sane person would? Will he have given in to Obama's Socialist Death Panels??
Have you gone fuckin nuts!!!!!!!!!
Ask yourself again why you lost the election.
I swear, this man is bitter as all hell that he's not in Barack's position. Because if McCain had won, we would not be having this conversation about healthcare.
NOBODY 2012
The fact that these kinds of STUPID STORIES are still in the headlines only re-enforces the fact that this naiton is a collective bunch of hopeless Walmart shopping hillbillies that will NEVER COME OF AGE with the rest of the world. We once had all the money to hide our idiocies behind, but the GOP took care of that with these senseless wars... we now stand exposed for the dumb-asses we truly are.
Republicans are just sick, twisted, desperate, lying SOB's. That's all there is to it. Do we need to stoop to their level just to fight back, or is it possible to take the high road and still win. I honestly don't know. They fight dirty, and they're proud of it. They don't care that they lie to the American people, and the American people are just stupid enough to believe whatever they dish out, no matter how ridiculous. And never mind that the media doesn't seem to have any interest in correcting the record or calling them out, with the exception of a few. The fact is, McCain has enjoyed govt run healthcare his entire life, from cradle to now. These pamphlets they keep talking about didn't just pop up. They've been out there for years. It is truly disgusting the way these people operate. They're literally just grasping at every disgusting thing they can find and throwing it out there. I'm so sick of it.
This kind of crap only works because people are afraid of dying.
Let's see how far to the right they go before they fall off of the edge of this flat world.
To date 4500 American servicemembers have fallen victim to Bush and Cheney's death panel in Iraq. You can't go to a movie theatre hardly without seeing military death panels, ie recruiting ads, aimed at our impressional youth glorifying war as if it were a war game. Wars not to be fought as a last resort but as an offense so Halliburton and Big Oil can get richer.
to totally irrelevant old man in a couple of years. There should be a lesson in there somewhere. I would doubt that John McCain's ego would allow him to look for it.
he's a narcissistic sociopath. Honest self-examination is not in the cards for that kind of person.
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