Matthews Slams Issa for Using the Term "Democrat Party"
By Heather Friday Feb 27, 2009 5:30am
Chris Matthews takes Darrell Issa to task on Hardball for using the term "Democrat Party".
Matthews: Well, I think the Democratic Party calls itself the Democratic Party, not the Democrat Party. Do we have to do this every night? Why do people talk like this? Is this just fighting words to get the name wrong?
Issa: This isn't intended to be fighting words.
Matthews: They call themselves the Democratic Party. Let's just call people what they call themselves and stop the uh, the Mickey Mouse here. Save that for the stump-seriously.
Issa: Chris, Chris.
Matthews: Now let's get to the issue here, seriously we've got a fiscal challenge. I want to go back to Congressman Frank and to some English here. Congressman Frank are you worried about the size of these WWII numbers here? Again, 1.75 trillion deficit this year. A spending level of almost 4 trillion. We're almost running deficits as big as the revenue number we're bringing in.
Frank: Well Chris let me first of all come to the defense of my colleague Mr. Issa and the Republicanistical Party that he represents, um and say that ah...
Issa: Thanks Barney.
Frank: You're welcome there Darrell. The point is this. For him to say oh these are the Democrat's deficits. I have never seen people disavow their own handiwork so quickly. And I knew that born again was an important strain, in in our society but born again deficit haters, it's a new version.
While this is pretty well a slap on the wrist for this sort of childish behavior we've come to expect out of the Republicans it's nice to see them get called out for it once in a while. Democrats need to do what Matthews did here to Republicans every time they pull this and maybe they'd finally stop after they got tired of getting egg on their face. You can watch the full segment with Issa and Franks talking about the budget here.
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Long time reader first time commenter, so hello all big, fan of both crooks and liars and the video cafe. I gotta say though, I've never really understood the argument over democrat vs democratic. Is this purely a semantic issue? I definitely identify as a democrat, I worked for the Obama campaign in Florida and at times find myself using the term democrat party as opposed to democratic. I don't see this as a snub, and at worst it feels like it might be grammatically incorrect. I'm really not trying to attack you guys for being to pc (for lack of a better word) but am genuinely curious: what is the big deal about democrat vs democratic?
it's just really disrespectful, and it's meant to emphasize the word RAT and the lack of emphasizing what the word democratic when it doesn't represent a political party really means. And the fact that these people cannot stop themselves from playing slash and burn politics when things are this serious is just pretty disgusting. As I said, it's childish to me but if grown men and women want to continue to act like children and use cheap insults for what passes for political dialog I think they should be made to look as immature as they are.
I'd equate it to someone in grade school, and there's a kid they don't like and their name rhymes with something dirty, or is close to that and you pronounce their name wrong on purpose over and over and then if you're called for it give the Eddie Haskell defense to the adults, and then when the adults aren't looking stick your tongue out at the kid you did it to.
That to me is about the mental state of the GOP right now and they've used Democrat when they should be saying Democratic so much now they're like robots and I don't think some of them can even help themselves. Issa was obviously pissed off about this if you watch the whole segment I've got at You Tube. He's just a mean asshole and didn't care for being called for his behavior and given a "time out".
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Heather-
I'm not really all that sure that if I were a member of the Democratic Party that I would be more offended by someone calling my party the Democrat Party, or if someone called me a mean asshole. I'm not sure either that if one wanted to emphasize the RAT in Democrat, that one couldn't also just as well emphasize it in saying 'Democratic', if that was the intention.
I don't use the word to describe the party because I'm well aware of the sensitivity issue, but it does get confusing when it's ok to say someone is a Democrat, but not ok to sat that someone is a member of the Democrat Party. It's about as confusing to me as having to remember when to put an apostrophe after the word 'its', to tell you the truth.
It's about as confusing to me as having to remember when to put an apostrophe after the word 'its', to tell you the truth.
Then go back to school. If you don't understand an apostrophe, I certainly don't want to read your posts.
As I do teach English, just remember it's is it is. Boy that was tough, wasn't it?
You ONLY use the apostrophe when you can substitute the word out for the phrase "it is". It's that simple. Read it and then decide if the apostrophe belongs.
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I love when you correct grammer...oooh.
Whip me...beat me...make me conjugate verbs!
LOL.
Dennis said he didn't understand - who could resist a chance to help out? =-)
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Yeah, I know. But I have to think about it. Same when I use the word Democrat vs Democratic. And I don't try to offend Democrats by using the word improperly.
You don't need to call Democrats names at all to offend them, and Issa is an idiot for not knowing that. And you don't win arguments by calling Democrats names, either, even though they think they do.
That's fine accusing the Democrats of having a thin skin, but plucking threats against peoples lives out of thin air.
that's an easy one, if you can substitute "is" for the apostrophe or where you wish to place it, then the apostrophe is appropriate. that's an easy one... that is an easy one. i somehow feel that you already knew that.
You're feelings were correct. But when I type on here, I do pause to make sure I got it right. Just as I have to do when I write Democrat and Democratic. That was the point.
Wish I hadn't drawn that comparison but I had just written the word 'it's' and it was on my mind.
and I guess it's better to bite one's tongue most of the time than to come off as bad as the person you're criticizing, but after watching him in action one time too many during Congressional hearings that's what I think of him. He comes off to me as an aggressive bully and an attack dog and yes, kind of an asshole. I would not write something like that in a post since it would consider that just flame throwing but in a comment, as I said, it's just my opinion. I'm not very good at parsing my words when I really dislike someone. And I really dislike Issa. But not for this bit. Friend of the site Jon Perr has a pretty good list over at his blog of the type of things that have merited Issa my disdain here:
Issa Adds Russert Outrage to His Hall of Shame
After Mr. Matthews called out Congressman Issa on the use of "Democrat Party" instead of the "Democratic Party", it sure threw him off of his talking points. You could tell that Congressman Issa was flustered and was having to think through his answers instead of just being a Republican robot.
to dominate the flavor of america.
it is a disrespectful term change that could not have been achieved even if everyone in the GOP on TV or print suddenly switched. it took the coordinated UNCONTESTED repetition from 1000 talk radio stations to get this done. then when their operatives on TV use it it doesn't seem so unusual and soon the celebrity talking heads are using it regularly. like so many of the other lies, distortions, myths and one liners we can thank the talk radio monopoly for.
its power may be waning but it is still the GOPs most important weapon and willl do the groundwork for all their obstruction. we need some new kind of Fairness Doctrine before we can have a sane adult opposition party that is not dominated by childish flat earthers- before we can have real democracy...
Good for Matthews. It does make a difference.
The party name is officially "The Democratic Party". They are NOT the Democrat party. You can be a Democrat - but the party name is the Democratic Party. They've been mislabeled by the GOP for so long most people are used to it now - but it's just as wrong now as when they started to do it. And it's offensive.
So - the Democrats have been re-labeled by the re-Thugs because they want to downplay the concept of our party being "democratic". That's EXACTLY what's going on here.
To call it the "Democrat Party" is like calling the Republican Party - "the Republic Party". It's stupid.
They all do it - so it's a coordinated effort. Issa is just another asshat brownshirt following orders from their leadership - you know - Rush Limpballs.
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I was called a Democrat once as a means of insulting me. I certainly wasn't insulted but I was taken aback that someone would think using the word would hurt me in some way.
... and to all others that point out the childish absurdity of the Repugs deliberately using "Democrat Party" -- emphasis on "rat" -- in place of the historically correct "Democratic Party." (It's the nation's oldest political party, btw.) It's nothing more than an insult, and they know it. I'm glad Tweety called out the execrable Issa on it.
And if you don't know what an apostrophe is, or what it stands for or how it's used, take a remedial course in grammar and usage. It's not rocket science.
Finally, if you're both a Repug AND an illiterate, this writer/editor will REALLY kick your ass.
Literarily yours,
BID
months ago BID and I got off on the wrong foot, but in general his posts kill me (in the good way).
thanks for taking the time to comment and for visiting and letting me know the site is at least being read if not commented on when it's a lonely world here right now for commenters. I don't expect that to change any time soon but that's alright. It's not why John and I decided to do this. We did it because I had more video for the site than they had room to post and my hope is that what's posted here is at least getting read and watched. I don't expect anyone to want to talk to themselves after doing so. I really don't have the time to keep up on all the comments since working full time and doing video work is too time consuming in itself but try to when I can like now, especially for what's not promoted to the main site.
Use of the word Democrat instead of Democratic is a code. It lets people know you are an idiot and you listen to Rush Limbaugh 'cause he makes sense to you. The reason they seem to have an issue is that it sounds like a adjective - as in "there is a party out there that's actually democratic" and not top down like their party and they are stuck with an adjective "Republican" which sounds kinda elitist.
Let's say your name is James and you want to be called James but some jack-ass at work always calls you Jimmy - why? To push a button - mean spirited, childish, churlish and ultimately counter productive - a shorthand label for this type of behavior is Republican.
I always go to VideoCafe. Love the clips, and we really do appreciate the hard work you do!!
As for the video, I truly don't understand the insult either. Don't think it is any worse than people calling the Repubs, the Rethuglican Party, or Slugs, or Conartists. I always thought it was some kind of legal issue, if a real party existed called the Democrat Party???
is that the incorrect labeling of the opposition party of the Republican's is being used BY Republicans...and a Congresscritter, no less.
This is not you or I calling the GOP Rethuglicans. Could you imagine the outrage should Pelosi call any GOPer a Rethuglican?
THAT is the difference.
Politics between those who are elected officials is vastly different than politics discussed at the corner coffee house. These people have to work together and how do you work with someone who is always showing you disrespect? It's a mind fuck sort of thing.
and exactly the point. It is who is using it and how. I'm some Joe-blow working person who happens to help with a blog and am not an elected official and if I called Republicans something else it is different. And to be honest if the Democrats had had any sense, they would have been screaming bloody murder for this on the House floor when they first started it like they did to Mean Jean Schmidt when she called Murtha a coward. They should have been censured for it and still should be. The Republicans are actually violating House rules IMO every time they do it just as Schmidt did. They should be forced to make written retractions for it until they get writers cramp.
It's their juvenile way of being obstreperous and somehow they think it's funny. That's because they are overgrown brats themselves.
I think most people prefer to be called by their name, not a juvenile nickname some dickhead has made up. Is that really hard to understand?
Bingo!!
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Well stated, Edw!
Welcome, Yuggem
We hope to read your comments often now that you have jumped into the comment pool. :)
When you see House Republicans using the "democrat congress" meme daily on the House floor,their lips all but curling as they do, then you know that it's being done deliberately. It began in 2008, to my recollection, emanating from Limbaugh or some other right-wing talker. But then adopted overnight by the whole Republican party. Believe me, if it were some honest oversight, the Republicans wouldn't have embraced it en masse as they have. And yeah, the "rat" emphasis is certainly true. Even Bush used it once or twice....Of course, one could argue that Republicans are victims of a poor public education and don't know the difference between using "democrat" as a noun and/or referring to specific people and "democratic" as an adjective referring to the party. But we know that's not the case....
This has been going on in an organized deliberate way since the late 1980s, spearheaded by Gingrich and pollster Frank Luntz, who even focus-grouped it a few years ago, and rampant in talk radio for decades. Reagan and Bush Sr. didn't lower themselves to do this, but W. Bush does it all the freaking time, not once or twice.
Gingrich sent out a notorious memo back in 1990 with a list of negative words to apply to the other side and positive words to apply to the Republicans, from whence we get death tax instead of estate tax, personal accounts in place of privatization, etc., and that's why you see a uniform use of these kinds of distortions. This is nothing new. The incorrect use of Democrat as an adjective was also routine for Joe McCarthy, even further back. Bill Buckley refused to use it in National Review, because it offended his sensibilities to muck around with language like that. So is Issa proud to rhetorically echo Joe McCarthy? I guess so.
Read this:
http://www.newyorker.com/archive/2006/08/07/0...
And it's not like Republicans need to bring down the literacy level of this country any further, for God's sake. We already turn way too many nouns into verbs, must we turn them into adjectives, too?
Democrat or Democratic- I see no difference-It;s the same party.
Why some Democrats throw a hissy fit when the 'ic' suffix is dropped baffles me.
How can the exclusion of the suffic be an insult?
File under 'non issue'
It IS an issue.
Read the previous posts.
It's a calculated insult, plain and simple.
And it's not the same as us non-politicians saying "Repug" and the like. Actual GOP members of Congress throw the term around. Perhaps the folks across the aisle should return fire with "Republic Party."
The GOP is full of puerile assholes.
started during the reagan administration to not democrats as being rats
it is not a non issue...they do it on purpose
they do it all the time
THEY SHOULD ALL BE THROWN IN PRISON AS TRAITORS
It would be as if I shortened your name, Tom Servo, to the initials, T.S., but that can also mean Trans-Sexual. So everytime I call you T.S. I'm thinking that you're a chick-with-a-dick, and not the name (or avatar in this case) that you wish to be called by. See the difference, T.S.?
It's an insult because of the intent of the person using it, not the person hearing it. If it were me, and some Republican cocksucker like Darrell Issa used it in front of me, I'd coldcock him, and then ask him, "What was that again, you car-stealing, alarm-selling conman?"
People like that only understand one thing, being backed up against the wall, hoisted up by their shirts a few inches off the ground, and pressed into the nearest wall while you explain the facts of life to them. If anyone doesn't get my reference to Darrell being a car thief, then do a little research on his background, and his brother's before he became a Republican congressman.
(car thief bit) and I agree with your sentiments. Bullies only understand one thing: strength. And even then, often only the most blunt kind. Reason and accountability are useless with these people. Though....I must admit that Matthews demonstrates here that it CAN put a burr up their nose, even if they choose not to learn anything from the experience.
(I watched this clip twice because it was so fun. This "Democrat" thing has been in pain in my neck for quite awhile now, to the extent that people are RARELY called on it. It's really simple: if someone says "Democrat Party", then his/her opponent intejects, "Democratic". If the same pig tries to move on with their point without correcting himself or says "Democrat Party" again, then the opponent interjects once more. Rinse, repeat. There is no reason for the discussion to continue if people can't be civil)
Issa is an evil mofo, and a class A asshole. He's been bad for California from day one and should be made to walk the plank.
I'd do the same thing to him, gladly....
I think it makes them sound ignorant. Democrat is a noun. Democratic is the adjective. But if the Repubs want to sound ignorant, fine with me. Issa did all but throw his body in front of the Democrats that were trying to initiate a little oversight. He never worried about the deficit before.
the media soon will be picking up the new meme of bashing inane gop talking points. the media is getting just as annoyed and tired of them as the american electorate.
I just that the media doesn't become as shrill as they have been the last 8 years or so, when they were all GOP/RNC water carriers.
As much as I love to see repubs taken to task, I want the media to be the political watchdogs they're supposed to be.
Take them all to task.
Well, you've got the right guy in Mr. 'Thrill coming up my leg', libNmod.
Guess it takes a water carrier to know one.
[Deleted. Not Necessary. Knock It Off-Sitemonitor], that's a non-sequiturious argument you're using there. He said "political watchdog" not repug's watchdog. Therefore from that statement alone you cannot accuse him of being a water-carrier.
Project much?
Ysby, more is not better for you.
I was calling Chris Matthews the water carrier. That's exactly what he is and he even declared that to Joe Scarborough. You don't even know this thread is about Chris Matthews; you think it's about Chris Wallace.
Try coming back after you're fully awake, you'll make better contributions that way.
Suuuuure you were calling Matthews the water carrier...
Nice try though.
Well, I don't know who the else said they had a thrill running down their leg besides Chris Matthews. Do you?
He's the guy on the video above. He's the guy who said he would do everything in his power to make sure Obama is successful. Who else was I talking about?
"I want the media to be the political watchdogs they're supposed to be.
Take them all to task."
Liberal Moderation
"Guess it takes a water carrier to know one."
penis
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I think tweety also said he loved the smell of an Aqua Velva man about fred thomas.
And more and more republicans are at least talking the talk about helping Obama succeed, because that way America succeeds, but of course the proof is in the pudding.
please...I called the media water carriers for the RW...
And you said it takes one to know one...how is that about anyone else but me?
Talking to you is like talking to a damn brick wall.
Often I feel the same, libNmod.
East is east and west is west.....
If you want a clearer picture of how I think, you'll have to read my book when it comes out. It's going to be called 'I'm Not Like You!'
You agree that talking to you is like talking to a brick wall?
HA!
"I know you are, but what am I?"
lolz
Infinity!
[Deleted] you've been entirely off topic all morning.
[No, he hasn't. Not like this comment is-Sitemonitor]
you REALLY have outdone yourself this time...HA!
The GOP was for deficits before they were against them.
Brief and to the point. Your post says it all. I plan to use it early and often.
Glad Matthews has finally awakened to the bankruptcy of ideas and hatred of the country the GOP has become. As for Frank calling it the "Republicanistical" party, I would say "Republicaliban" party is more like it. Except I am not for doing to them as they do to the Democratic Party. Just not Christian-y.
Actually, since 1992, when the Republican Party declared cultural war on America, I have thought of them as the "Theocratic Fascist Party".
"Theocratic Fascist Party" just about covers it. I like using this description ~
Re-thug-lics -- the party of immature, voraciously rapacious, depraved, despotic, doughy white, cowardly, angry troglodytes, bigots, racists, perverts, xenophobes, pedophiles, murderers, war criminals, homophobes, misogynists, self-righteous hypocrites, self-hating women, fetid wombs, preeminent whiners and consummate chronic liars.
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I could understand if they said, "Democrats Party," because I'd hear Democrat's Party. But without even the final S, it not only sounds awkward, it sounds like a party of one, so indubitably it would have to be deliberate.
Democrat is a noun. Party is a noun. Nouns don't describe other nouns, adjectives do. Democratic is the proper adjective.
Goody goody gum drops to the Republican Party for using a word that can be used as both a noun and an adjective. Maybe the American Congress of English Teachers can reward them by putting a gold star on the
foreheadtombstone of John Fremont, or whatever Republican made the choice of words in 1854.He's had 45 fucking days to take care of this shit and has failed miserably! Only a fiscal Conservative can get us out of Obama's recession. We ought to do a goddamned recall.
And sadly, many believe this bullshit .
You just KNOW that Clinton had a hand in this mess...*rolls eyes*
You know that some GOP troll out there actually thinks that...
Our DEAR friend dennis?
Jimmy Carter's the real villain here.
And that warmonger Ghandi is too!
AND Mother Teresa!!!
We all know Obama invaded Iraq
Obama crashed those planes into the WTC
Obama was on the grassy knoll
Obama bombed Pearl Harbour
Obama blew up the Maine
need I go on?
Custer! You left out Custer!!
And Obama burned down Atlanta!
And Jesus...don't forget Jesus...Obama drove in the first nail!!
Burning down Atlanta was a good and necessary thing at the time. We could have plowed in salt afterward.
Unlike Columbia, South Carolina, Cradle of the Secession, Atlanta wasn't burned on purpose by Federal troops. The fires occured when retreating Confederate General John Bell Hood had his munitions dumps burned.
and tell me Confederate reenactors really don't like Schnapps.
They can't march on Appomattox without Chocolate Schnapps!
Well, I was trying to relate to stuff that happened in the last 100 years, afterall he's only been in office for about 45 days or so.
I've been waiting for someone to call out a Republican about that term for a while now.
They all started to use it at the same time, almost as if under orders....
It was certainly "under orders" - that's how re-Thugs operate. They can't think for themselves.
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I am beginning to think the GOP is made up of some virulent alien race hell bent in taking over the world.
They get their talking points beamed down every night, from the mothership directly into their sleeping pods.
And Republicans have been taking their marching orders from that asshat since the early '90's, but have only admitted to that in the last few months.
ISSA ISSA SMUCKA
And you're so offended by the name-calling in the form of CODE words.
I feel your pain, L&P.
Liberal Blogs Against Name-Calling, Unite!
penis, he was making a joke saying code. It hardly qualifies as being even subliminal.
Good thing repugs weren't writing codes during WWII, or we'd be giving each other Heil Hitler salutes. You know...
prescott boosh's bud.
Somebody pissing in your corn flakes this morning (dennis)??? Snap out of it.
We've just suffered through 8 years of inane gibberish and I'm in no mood for you and your gibberish today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm not offended by name calling.
I'm offended by the GOP children masquerading as adults with their feigned concern for "family values" and "decorum" and bipartisanship as they run cover for their trust fund baby base, engage in demogoguery, and turn a blind eye to the hypocrisy of their evangelical supporters and benefactors who engage in illicit acts with parishoners and minors, suck more out of the public coffers than they put in, and have higher rates of teenage pregnancy and divorce then the "liberal states" they rail against.
And, just as during the Bush Administration, Osama Bin Laden became "he whos name cannot be spoken"...now GW Bush...the darling of the right...has become the same. Not seen, not spoken of.
heh heee dennis good one!
tyree-
Props to you. You were about the only guy on here who said we were headed toward what we are seeing. And people chide you because you occasionally misspell a word or two.
You're the smartest guy here. I should hire you to be my advisor.
please please dennis no praise needed but thanx anyway, whats so sad is that these people mostly only represent the elites in this country, notice the high school drop outs fear to come on here from the simple fact that they will face redicule on thier mispells or not useing commas , its not as if they dont have an opinion they are just scared to express one, but im sure they dont mind as they have the smarter folks who despise them looking out for thier interests!
I'm working on an updated version of this song, tyree.
Love me I'm a liberal
A bit outdated but the meaning is still crystal clear.
well dennis im more of a country western fan myself but you keep plugging away , it dont seem like labels make any difference much more anyways , liberals start to look like concervitives and some conservitves look like liberals , its a riddle me this world!
dennis,
I think you've missed Phil's point.
Musta been tough on Darrell Issa, growing up
Can you imagine all those kids taunting him with stuff like:
Darrell Issa Poo-Poo Head
Darrell Issa Douchebag
Darrell Issa Wuss
heh
Nice touch Shoeless!!
I love Republicanistical. Sounds like a sexually transmitted scrotal affliction.
I think we should call them what they strive to be: The Authoritarian Party.
maybe if the Liberals get good at labeling the Repugs something people can understand...
ah, what am I saying, the last thing I want is the Dems to act like the Repugs, I just wish they would fight more (or better)
Good idea. The problem is, Republicans don't know enough to take "authoritarian" as an insult. They have no sense of irony. The Fox News-bots I know think authoritarianism is a swell new idea. These people are unreachable. It's a mass psychosis.
But is it name calling? or as many suggest here, a search for a more fitting name?
My father was a republican. This lot are NOT republicans. They're repugnant thugs. Thus I call them the re-Thuglic party - though I'm often tempted to worse.
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The Fascist Theocrat Party
Because, after all, that is exactly what they are.
When you're right - you're right.
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I am. :)
Funny shades of Exodus 3:14, Cartesian philosphy and Popeye the Sailor man.
Is how I roll!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUsRDzGOyNI
would get taken to the cleaners by a one legged woman.
You should add Fascist CONFEDERATE Theocrat Party.
When they refer to Americans, American values, (insert political objective here) that Mainstream Americans want...they aren't talking about a majority of the citizens of the United States of America, they're talking about republicans and their supporters. They put party before country...because in their mind, the only citizens of their country are them.
You are absolutely right!
That the Republicanisticals do...we can call it Republicanisting.
I think that, now, whenever we see the term "Democrat party", we must respond with "REPUBLICANISTICAL". If the forum supports it, it should be written in sparkling letters.
he said republicanistical...
heh heh heh
Trying to change the pronunciation of the word, is similar to how they stigmatized the word liberal. Additionally, besides mispronouncing the term, they tend to disparage the historical view that America is a democracy, and will insist we're a republic, like Revolutionary France, not taking it in mind that a Democratic Republic is one with indirect voting through representation rather than referendum and town hall meetings of voters.
I never would have expected Tweety to call anyone out on the name-calling bs. It's a good step, I also love the line, "let's go back to Sen. Frank and some english"
Yes, proper King's English.
Like in "Ughh God", when Bobby Jindal walks up to the camera.
Chris Matthews is so wonderful.
How much bandwidth would've been blown out here if say, a Barack Obama as a senator in years past had walked up to a podium to give the rebuttal to a George Bush State of the Union address and Sean Hannity had muttered "Ughh, God" on the Fox News set to cheering laughter?
It did happen to Bill Clinton during one of his presidentail debates.
And since there was no context to KO's statement it could mean his latte was late, his danish stale etc.
Even David Brooks said "bobby's" speech was a disaster.
Presidentail?
I must be horny.
It was Chris Matthews, ysby, and it wasn't because his latte came late.
"bobby" proved him right, didn't he.
Besides I thought you conservatards were for praying.
I don't know about the praying part...but quite a few of them love spending time on their knees.
Saying 'Democrat party' very wrong.
Saying 'conservatards' good.
If you keep playing dense people will start believing you. This is a PRIVATELY OWNED BLOG, not a national broadcast nor news cable source.
I'm also NOT an elected official that should maintain a veneer of respectability, but issa is.
... but who but a "conservatard" would use the name "Democrat Party?" Clearly this indicates a diminished intellect.
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Just call them what they are:
Issa and his fellow "minority party" members.
You must be acting disingenuously. Seriously? You are too dense to see this?
The use of "democrat party" just identifies the group-think conservative who takes his cues from Limbaugh.
I remember that Clinton incident. It was on election night in 1996. David Brinkley called Clinton a bore and made some comment about how the next four years would be nothing but pretty words and a lot of "goddamned nonsense." He was talking to Peter Jennings during what he thought was still the commercial break. When Jennings told him they were on the air, he basically said something like well, I'm leaving anyway (he was retiring soon), who cares? He did later apologize to Clinton, who graciously accepted it. I can imagine the freeze-out a reporter would have gotten from W. Bush after such an incident.
Although if it had been Keith, he has no room to talk about Jindal's pulled off the Christmas tree tie, considering some of his own wardrobe choices. :)
Your IQ is showing.
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Because the SCLM doesn't exist, had shammity said something like that, in that situation, he would be hailed as king of the snarks...
So...dennyboy, your argument is dumb.
And it was in reference to how dorky Jindal looked and how amateurish the whole thing was. He'd have said the same thing about Dukakis in the tank (and has made fun of similar awkward moments for Dems). It's not political. It had nothing to do with anything Jindal said, since he hadn't spoken yet. And it wasn't out of surprise at who was speaking, because he knew that. It was a reaction to the showbiz. It was unprofessional, and these folks need to be conscious at all times that they're near microphones, but it wasn't a political reaction; it was along the same lines of watching a bad movie and dissing the production values or commenting on someone's poor wardrobe choice. Matthews is very much into style, spectacle and entertainment, and this was bad entertainment for him.
Can't say I understand why of all the reasons to dislike Republicans this stands out. Petty name calling perhaps, but I'd expect us Dems to have thicker skins than that.
Also why is Edwin so condescending?
That as soon as there's another Republicanistic executive, Chris will go back to not caring about what it calls the Democratic Party, and admiring its (possessive, no apostrophe) manly package in a flight suit.
He sways with the wind.
Anyway, Barney Frank was very good. He doesn't take much shit, does he?
I'm sure part of him takes shit.
That's why we're stonger than ordinary people: been taking shit all our lives.
I'll give Tweety credit this once for being fair and stopping this abuse of the english language.
When the repubs say democrat instead of democratic, it's like they're kids in school who just found out a dirty word, and then use another word to describe it. Like some inside joke. Nice to see Tweety and Frank call Issa on it.
Republican is the dirty word before, now and ever after
Does anyone remember when the republicans began doing this? I mean it takes effort to not say democratic party and change it to democrat party. Just as it would take effort to begin saying republic party instead of republican party.
...as Joe McCarthy; he said it in stump speeches.
According to Mr. Know-it-All, er, I mean, Wikipedia, it's been around since 1890, and Republicans have been using it as an epithet since the 40s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democrat_Party_(United_States)
You would think they would be tired of playing that game by now, wouldn't you.
About the same time they started being assholes. You decide. It's really hard to respect grown men that insist on being so childish. It seems being chidlish and vindictive is more important to some than the issues of the day. It's completely needless at a time when the country needs so much.
Some of the stuff being said at the PNAC convention makes you just shake your head and wonder if they are even trying any more.
They're not.
The GOP is basically conducting a political circle jerk.
They stroke one another off because it makes them feel good, but at the end of the day it adds nothing of value, no one outside of their little circle really cares, and everyone has to clean up their own mess.
Onanistic oratory.
But this systematic, robotic use of the term to the exclusion of EVER saying Democratic began in the late 80s with Gingrich making a big deal out of language and deliberately training the up and coming party members to do this. And it was reinforced and pushed in talk radio so that it soon became reflexive; now, they have to stop and think to use the correct term, it's so automatic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6ml16zGPy8&eu...
I saw that ad on tv this morning. It's great!
When you have to turn to Rush for your talking points, you have hit the bottom for creativity.
That was great. Glad to hear it's on TV. The party of "no" and no ideas either.
I haven't seen that ad. Powerful and to the point. I love it.
Hey, the Democrat party is equivalent to the Republic party. Let's approve of BOTH labels, use them, and agree that they're terms of endearment....
Matthew gave the stunning punch but Barney Frank gave the knock out blow. Frank was terrific. I love the look on Issa's face at the end of the interview. He started out smug and at the end he looks like he has severe indigestion.
I wish he'd call people out when they call the U.S., America. The U.S. is not America... we are the United States of America. I listened to a show where they were talking trade and discussing "Mexico, Canada and America." How ignorant.
i saw that and i've gotta give it to chris. he's finally speaking up and all be damned in the process. i like the new chris matthews. did you see issa cring, that's when you know you're getting to them.
Next week you'll be calling Matthews a jerk- or worse.
Tweety is consistently inconsistent.
He'll be back slamming Obama and the Dems the first chance he gets.
I think the guy has serious issues.
Don't ever forget his man-crushes on Commander Bunnypants and "Aqua-Velvet" Fred Thompson.
Like a stopped clock, he's correct a couple of times a day -- if that. But I'll never trust him.
rush limbaugh needs to burn in hell.
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