Lizz Winstead Gives Ed Schultz a Hard Time for "Showing the Jiffy Pop Thing"
By Heather Sunday Oct 18, 2009 8:00am
Daily Show co-creator Lizz Winstead gives Ed Schultz a hard time for chasing the bright shiny object or as she calls it "the Jiffy Pop thing" along with the rest of the "news" shows out there instead of covering the real news.
Schultz: Hey have you seen any balloons in your neighborhood lately?
Winstead: I’m so mad at you. What are you doing? Stop talking about these box balloon people. Ed you’re bigger than that. What are you doing? This is not a story for you. And the only reason you should be talking about a balloon floating across America for two hours is if the TARP money that we’ve lost is in it. Ed, seriously…get a grip!
Schultz: Did you go to dinner with Arianna Huffington last night to get schooled up on this? The world is talking about this. This has got tremendous intrigue. What parent treats his kids like this? Come on.
Winstead: Ed you do not—don’t be part of the chatter of bad parenting that is on T.V. now. What who’s next? John and Kate are going to co-host with you? I’m disappointed in you. Ed, look at this Jiffy Pop thing. This is not news! You’re showing a Jiffy Pop thing.
Schultz: Is there popcorn in it?
Winstead: Ed the breaking news is…
Schultz: I thought there was some popcorn in it.
Winstead: Ed, here’s the breaking news—thing floats out of back yard. This is what you’ve promoted for the first ten minutes of your show—thing floats out of back yard. Ed, where’s the TARP money? We don’t have enough troops to go to Afghanistan. Bobby Jindal shut down a mental health facility. We know you. Those are the things you should be talking about. I’m going to—I’m scolding you. I’m going to spank you.
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Idle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4ajZ-5kTXk&fe...
so it's no shock he'll sometimes dwell on the fluff that right wingers concider to be 'real' news....The reason is because ed IS a right winger
What he is is a reformed Rightie. He's bound to have some old habits and prejudices he hasn't worked through yet.
Oh please,Ed is not a wingnut.
Come on, you know the MSM are notorious whores for stories like that.
Yeah it's funny, spanking a kid is now bad parenting, and then when the poor slob grows up he has to hire a professional to oblige him.
many of us, especially the younger folks, get their news dose by preference from the Daily Show? It actually is one of the best media outlets we have.
me too, TDS w/Jon is the only "news" worth watching IMO
and comedy is news
Six months fom now after the horses run away though the barn door left open news shows will be bemoaning what they didn't report while they were chasing balloons and then they will scream about why somebody let it happen.
"LOOK OVER THERE! SHINY OBJECT!"
Let's talk about that!
Scripted 'reality' tv.
It'll be worth it if "Reality" TV is so maligned by such shenanigans that we're rid of them for good.
And with it the whole infotainment industry.
then newspeople will perform for pride and country instead of ratings/consumers and sponsors
LOL!
why is the daily show the only ones who get to the heart of most matters? the 'news' industry has it's head so far up its ass, it cant see or report real news. this week is the perfect example of junk news. 5 hours of following a jiffypop bag.
why is it that the producer of the daily show needs to call out guys like ED, who know better, and he is a better journalist than that....
why do i need to see the daily show, to have jon do a interview that is 100 times better than what i see on the cables.........
its all junk now, and blather, and noise, and crapola......
breaking news! dancing with the stars, fights with american idle.... and we wonder why we are going down the tubes....
nero fiddled while rome burned, and so on........
C&L is one of the few blogs that gives me some of the back story....
Why is anyone but fox talking about such nonsense? Who gives a rat's ass about whether or not it was a hoax? Who cares? The boy WASN'T on the balloon. So FORGET IT!!!
Jesus....don't we have healthcare on the burner? Aren't we STILL in Iraq, Guantanamo, Afghanistan, immigration is an issue that needs to be addressed, reagan's cancer is still in our land. Get a f*cking life!!
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It was news...
... It was on the news and the news had to cover itself for hours and now days later, they're still covering why it was news and how it wasn't sensationalized hype/stunt.
It.Was.News. It.Has.ALWAYS.Been.NEWS.
... just not breaking, wait on the edge of your chair, life changing/altering event that brings about a cataclysmic ending. Nope, no lives were ever in danger, no communities put at risk, no imminent threats of invasion from Aliens. Just a balloon!
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"no imminent threats of invasion from Aliens"
That we KNOW OF ....
:)
Should it be local news or national news? Producers and editors make those decisions and they made the wrong decision. Sensationalism rules.
and sells
this is a wrong decision if the producers/editors were trying to run a hard-hitting journalistic organization. they're not. they, like most everyone else in the msm, are part of the corporatized news structure that is wholly dependent of ad revenue, and chasing profit.
from a shareholder's perspective, this is exactly what you would want your cable-investment to spend its time covering.
from a citizen's perspective it is friggin tragic.
Notice we don't hear the phrase, "Sorry, but we've run out of time" on these kind of stories.
"we have to leave it there"?
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-october...
Im still stuck on his 'psycho talk' segment about Ron Paul wanting to see the Depts of Education and Agriculture closed down (he's said the same about DHS and the IRS). when paul says that he's not talking like a psycho, he's talking like a libertarian. libertarians want a government small enough to fit in your pocket, as opposed to neo-cons who want government small enough to fit in your bedroom. and while i dont agree with what most of he has to say, he talks to his audience like theyre grown-ups, as opposed to dubya's standing at the podium talking to the press (and us) like theyre children who dont understand how the world works.
but that to the side...did anybody else chuckle a little as they were showing the 'jiffy pop' and at the top it says 'the ed show...the place for politics'.
It was news while it was flying and everyone thought a 6 year old was on board.
It was news up until the craft landed and the boy was found alive.
Everything after that was an attempt at capitalizing on the sensationalism of the story.
Ed did not cover the story once the boy was found.
I live in Fort Collins, but do not think that had anything to do with my interest in the story. It was interest about the welfare of the six year old with possibly some personal interest because it was just the sort of crazy effing thing I might have done as a boy.
It was a marginal news story (the Colorado version of the low-speed O.J. Bronco chase?) up until they reported the kid was not in the balloon........then it was crap, and after about 2 paragraphs of background information, I knew it was a publicity stunt. Another instance of the dumbing down of the American public. I am disappointed that Ed spent more than 30 seconds on that idiotic mess--I generally like his presentations, but it IS supposed to be politics. I'm hoping the network made him do it, but that means MSNBC is only marginally better than CNN.......which is fast selling out to nonsense. It seems to be a Larry King country where television is concerned. If it's stupid, it's news. I was happy to see Anna Nicole go, but there's always another non-story to take its place. No wonder our country is the laughing stock of the world.
Fort Collins? Get out while you still can.
I think this is news, now that the people have been accused of staging it all. I don't see where the little boy saying "it's for the show" or whatever means anything. Why would the daddy ask little Falcon on live TV, "Why didn't you answer?" if it might draw a response that would sink the hoax? People know their children better than that.
This story gets to me because the (sorta) same thing happened to me. No hoax, swear, lol. My little boy was 3. He "disappeared" from playing right by me while I was hanging wash on the line. I went insane screaming for him and searching. Cops came, Jehovah's Witnesses holding a meeting in their windowless church spread out over the neighborhood searching, calling. I had run through our house calling hysterically for ages, searching under every bit of furniture, everywhere, again and again. A deputy found him under the dining room table where I had looked repeatedly. The phone I used to call the sheriff's department was ON the dining table. I can't understand how he was there for the deputy to find. Spontaneous invisibility??? It was that inexplicable. He must have just kept moving and hiding all the while I searched for him.
He is a soldier in Iraq now, and to this day, when I ask, "Why didn't you answer me?" he says he was afraid to because I sounded so upset. I ask him why he hid in the first place, he has given me several answers, and nowadays says he doesn't remember. This was in a town of 1400 people not counting the rural areas surrounding, so it made the front page of the weekly newspaper as "Three year old conducts business under the table."
When that man asked his son on Larry king Live "Why didn't you answer?" he sounded so exactly like me, that I can't believe it was a hoax. It was all I could say the rest of that day to mine. "Why didn't you answer?"
I posted a short version of this at YouTube, where everyone wants to burn the parents at the stake as witches, and by the time I could click refresh to see if my comment came out, I had a whole slew of thumbs downs. People WANT it to be a hoax they can hate somebody over.
The parents obviously wanted the ATTENTION on them again, like the reality show. Your case, to me, is entirely different.
Here's praying your son returns home safe and sound!
Thank you cyn.
:^)
http://gawker.com/5383858/exclusive-i-helped-...
Bear in mind that the family has appeared twice on Wife Swap, and those close to the father say that he's an egomaniac who is obsessed with appearing on television.
Take it with a grain of salt, sure, but bear in mind that in the video of the child telling Wolf that they "did it for the show," the father immediately panics, mumbles a nonsensical and off-topic reply to Wolf's question. Finally, when Wolf asks for Falcon to clarify his answer, the father interrupts with mock-indignation, refusing to cooperate because he's too "appalled."
Addendum: It's quite believable that the father asked his son that question because he had rehearsed the appropriate (so to speak) responses with his son. A script. The son, being only six years old, screwed it up by deviating from what he was told to say when questioned. Hence why the father muttered "...man..." under his breath. Just a thought!
Thanks for that, too. I am waiting to see if it gets PROVEN to be a hoax. Just thinking if it isn't, how horrible it would be to be called a hoaxter after going through a thing like that, and your child getting sick from the stress of thinking he got his daddy in trouble.
It should be off the news so the kids wouldn't have to be punished either way. "People" are screaming for blood on this, it's repulsive. Thousands of comments at youtube screaming for the kids to be taken away from the parents and the father fined $20,000, calling the mother and father both criminals who should die, it scares me about this world where criminal teens set another kid on fire, and girls videotape a gang of them beating the hell out of just one.
One comment at youtube said this:
"He did it to get on TV fake shit! BURN THEM ALL!" ( by Wirrocks)
Probably just being silly, I hope. The point of this thread is who's right, liz or ed, and liz is right, cuz anderson cooper is over on CNN cranking this up and drawing "people out there" into it as hard as he can. We need a big arena and some gladiators, geeez. There's no stopping this slavering-for-blood train, we're outnumbered thousands to one on wishing it would stop.
I'm fairly confident that the father is a big, fat phony, but his punishment should be limited to whatever legal recourse is available to the authorities whose time, money, and energy was wasted because of the man's little stunt. And I agree that in order for any of this to occur, we're going to need proof. I doubt we'll ever receive any, considering how uninterested in asking pointed questions the news media has been. (But what else is new?)
I will say that I don't take YouTube comments seriously, even if those who write them are deadly serious. They're so often chalk-full of racist or misogynistic or otherwise-hateful prattle and rarely seem to reflect the kinds of people I meet when I so much as walk down the street. Safe behind their keyboards, many people--even adults of who-knows-what age--can regress, becoming juvenile and angst-ridden and weirdly proud of it. I don't think that successful and/or well-adjusted folks troll YouTube, creating a discrepancy in the kinds of opinions you read there.
Many more important things than that MSM should be focusing on.
until the cop on the ground got a hold of it and you could tell the actual size of the thing, no way could that lift a kid
A full grown man did it with helium ballons and a lawn chair.
I think the size was large enough to believe it would lift a child.
It was about 1/3 deflated when it hit the ground.
Not to 50 ft let alone 10,000
exactly?
There wasn't enough, so there
Wait a minute...here ya go
http://www.southernballoonworks.com/rc-blimps...
and people don't understand politics, finance, government or what is taking place in America. A boy (sweet), a balloon (fun), and DRAMA! I think they would have LOVED a crash landing with the kid inside. Great video!!
but I love her. They should give her the show not Ed.
I'd like to see her on CNN asking Wolf Blitzer the same questions.
partner on Air America at first, then she left to being a co-creator of the Daily show
I wasn't aware of that. If she's worked with Rachel, she must be a very smart woman.
As MikeD suggests, give her a show of her own!
that recruited Colbert to be on there...well here, I'll screw it up some more otherwise :P
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lizz_Winstead
Thanks, Floridiot!
Didn't she co-create the Daily Show years before AAR was even started up though? I think your chronology is off there.
why I said "before I screw it up some more" and presented the link, mmm k?
MSM dragging stories like this out when there are more important things to worry about. I was happy that the child was safe and sound, but as soon as that was known, I wanted to get back to health insurance reform, the war in Afghanistan, etc. not to have Ed take up a whole 15 minutes on essentially a non-story. No way could I possibly blame Winstead or Arianna Huffington for being annoyed.
And now that it appears it was a hoax on the part of the father, I still don't want to keep hearing about it. It's a good thing that I record my news programs on my DVR, I was able to fast-forward through that junk.
and the story turned out to be as important as the Baby Jessica
saga.
Im not saying that it wasnt a story or didnt have the potential to be a serious thing, but now that we all know that it WASNT a serious thing, its time for the media to let it go.
Or Anna Nicole Smith. Or Jon & Kate. Or the boy who everyone thought fell into a well but was hiding in a barn. Oh wait, that's from "12 Monkeys," which is a pretty apt name for the MSM.
Unfortunately for us, Baby Jessica was the first story to garner huge ratings for the fledgling Cable News Network ("CNN") and put cable tv "news" on the map. Unfortunately for us, it seems that the rest of the MSM have learned the lesson well.
This is why I'll always LOVE Lizz Winstead. She is truly the unsung hero of progressive media.
She's right. Ed wasted our time and his.
I'm not seeing this the same as everyone else seems to be. I saw that when it aired and it seemed to me that both of them were making fun of A. Huffington for calling out Ed on it.
After watching it a second time, I can see her calling him out on it.
if you're honest you have to admit that this Ed is nothing more than a left-wing sean hannity.
he is no rush limbaugh as he at least tries to portray the image of sanity, but he can be compared to hannity.
I can compare a Rolls Royce to a John Deere tractor, so what.
I am not a Schultz fan, so I rarely hear him. Are you saying Ed lies, denies his bias, puts party affliation above facts, and creates false dichotomies?
Many people are uncomfortable with the ...uncomfortable parts of political discussion. They find it far easier to talk about this kind of "popular culture" type of thing or jon and kate and anna nicole and girl from aruba and on and on. For some reason they find it far easier to discuss and disagree on this stuff. I guess no one is asking you to back up your opinion on jon and kate. That makes it easier right there. No thinking necessary.
I think it is fine to mention these things. Maybe a couple minutes, but to spend 10 minutes on it is just abetting ignorance.
Eds ok. I just hate his voice is so similar to limbaugh. It may have actually helped him in the business though.
thank you, liz...
when ed started on this story that night, i figured it was due to pressure from the network... then he got defensive with arianna and i realized he was seriously disturbed about this story... surprised me...
i'm still not sure it was a hoax... but it's looking that way...
even though it doesn't make sense - how could any advantage come from it?
will see...
but this is a hoax...most likely...
And the advantage for that family is that they're back on teh teevee...
This "story" will get PLENTY of coverage on the other news stations...
MSNBC is supposed to be the "Place for Politics"....balloon boy is NOT politics...
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