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Is anyone else as tired of this latest talking points by Republicans that continually goes unchallenged by the media -- spending cuts are going to create jobs. John Boehner claims he's got hundreds of economists who agree with him after Chris Wallace points out that a lot of economists don't agree with him, but of course Wallace didn't bother to ask him what some of their names were.

How about we fix our trade laws and quit rewarding companies for outsourcing American jobs? Heaven forbid that never seems to be part of the conversation from our politicians when the topic of jobs comes up.

Nicole: Anyone wish that Wallace the Lesser would have asked him for just one or two of the names of those "200 economists" that Boehner insisted agree with this ridiculous meme? It's one that Rep. Robert Hurt (R-VA05) also repeated in a widely-disseminated op-ed this weekend:

As the failed trillion dollar stimulus proved, increased government spending did not create the millions of jobs promised and only added to our record-breaking deficits and over $14 trillion in debt. The new projection that this year’s deficit will reach nearly $1.5 million only reinforces the need to cut up Washington’s credit cards once and for all.

That is why I have been proud to support many measures that have come before the House that will rein in out of control government spending and help put Central and Southside Virginia on a true path towards a long-lasting economy recovery.

Those measures include voting to cut non-security discretionary government spending back to pre-stimulus, pre-bailout levels and voting to repeal the budget-busting government takeover of health care, cutting $2.6 trillion over ten years and reducing the deficit by $700 billion. The House has also voted to cut Congressional budgets, to end the wasteful mandatory printing of bills, and to end the taxpayer funding of presidential election campaigns and party conventions, saving taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars.

Failed stimulus? Are we in the midst of another Great Depression? No? Wasn't that the purpose of the stimulus, to pull us back from the brink? The only reason it didn't do better were all the stupid concessions added to get the Republicans to sign off on it. And as far as jobs are concerned, the unemployment rate is still bleak, but to ignore that the Obama administration -- even with all the obstruction placed before them by the Republican Party -- managed to create more jobs in 2010 than Bush did in all eight years of his term put together is fundamentally disinforming the public.

But that's the plan for the GOP. If you get enough right wing people on traditional media and right wing blogs repeating ad nauseam that the stimulus didn't work, well, then no one challenges these failed ideas that Boehner advocates. And it may backfire on them in the end:

Obama felt the need to push health reform while at the height of his influence. GOP activists may feel the same way about spending. They should be wary.

This isn’t to say that some immediate well-targeted spending reductions are a bad idea. They are not. But the mindless across-the-board cuts (excluding, of course, defense, veterans benefits, homeland security, and Medicare), the GOP has in mind seem both clumsy and counterproductive in today’s economy.

Just as Democrats paid a steep price for pursuing health reform at a time of high unemployment, so may Republicans pay dearly if they try to rapidly shrink government while the economy remains weak. Ideological purity is one thing. But it rarely trumps bad timing.

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Eyeball Kid's picture

It didn't work when Reagan was in office, it was mocked by David Stockman after it was Stockman who created the frame, and it's still nonsense in today's world. But what does Boner do? He pulls the "trickle-down" meme out of the grave and sets it up in the corner!

Yet the corporate media refuses to discuss the history of Boner's boner, and treat this goon's words as if they were newly discovered!

The elephant in the room? Raising revenues through taxing the rich and the freeloading corporations. It's simple, and sooner or later, it will HAVE to happen. If it doesn't, we'll be the next Egypt.


"...Money Trumps Peace..." G.W. Bush, 2007

dadams's picture

if the gop/teabaggers keep up this charade
of concern to create jobs, then what happened
in calif this weekend to the koch brothers will
be happening on the gop's own home doorsteps.

Kreskin's picture

Bunch of protesters showed up at their meeting , 25 arrested .


"The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all."

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

What country?


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

dadams's picture

we can create jobs and put honesty back into the
house by cutting boehner's job. he's a hypocrite
and anti-middle/poor class in America.

what he is really saying, is that more jobs will
be created overseas and not here at home.

Plisko's picture

As the failed trillion dollar stimulus proved. . .

Isn't it just like these wankers to openly state that they want to work towards the failure of Obama's policies, and then complain that Obama's policies are a failure and we need to listen to them now. . . .

Is this real? Am I really awake?

I know. . some of the stimulus wasn't even Obama policy. . just another layer in the onion of bullshit.

Kreskin's picture

They test ones grip on sanity that is for sure . I don't know how many times I've asked the question , why would anyone who is not flat out wealthy support these scum bags ? What the hell is going on in their heads ?


"The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all."

DoublePlusLiberal's picture

Obama and the Democratic caucus essentially enabled this shit from day one by not calling out these assholes.

The strategy of bipartisanship, go along to get along, looking forward vs. looking backward has done nothing but embolden these sociopaths and it's done nothing but hamper any attempt at CHANGE.

Republican/Conservative economic theory and idiotology destroys upward mobility and does nothing for the middle or lesser classes except to make them poor, poorer, and poorest.
The Democrats failed miserably to get that message out there.

Why the Democrats (unless their corrupt and in on the fix) gave these failures and their idiot bullshit ideas a seat at the adult table and allowed them to control the conversation is beyond me.


Beer-i.e., God's Sweet Nectar- is a magic drink that makes you smarter, stronger, and more sexy.
-S. Colbert

DoublePlusLiberal's picture
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Why the Democrats (unless they're corrupt and in on the fix) gave these failures and their idiot bullshit ideas a seat at the adult table and allowed them to control the conversation is beyond me.


Beer-i.e., God's Sweet Nectar- is a magic drink that makes you smarter, stronger, and more sexy.
-S. Colbert

ron's picture

of economists? It must be less than the 200 that Boner wouldn't name. Why can't the host ask who they are. Oh wait, it's Wallace at Fox.

Ape-Man's picture

Chris Wallace is not at all like his father. He'd be working in a McDonalds right now if it wasn't for his Father's success.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

OneFly's picture

It's those assholes he plays golf with back in o hi ho

"Can you name some of those economists?"
or
"It didn't work in the past, why will it work now?"
I am so tired of shabby interviewing.

Patriot Actor's picture

just say.....all the economists?....
same difference...

Kate's picture

... Where are the jobs?

Numbnuts's picture

Southern Ohio

fastfeat's picture

Jim Beam and Jack Daniels.


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

Daddio478's picture

you want it when? Face it, there aren't any jobs to be had,, jobs like oil are a finite resource.


"No man is so foolish but he may sometimes give another good counsel, and no man so wise that he may not easily err if he takes no other counsel than his own. He that is taught only by himself has a fool for a master." - Hunter S. Thompson

Captain Kangaroo's picture

I am so sick and tired of these assholes pulling this nonsense out of their ass. It makes no god damned sense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kreskin's picture

It doesn't do my spirits any good , that is for sure , I am about ready to lay off politics altogether , there is no point .


"The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all."

Captain Kangaroo's picture

We tried it their way for 8 years under Bush. How did it work out?????????????? And now they want to do the same thing again.

Liberal AND Proud's picture

We've been at this crap for 30 years.


Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.

Kreskin's picture

What all went down had nothing to do with Bush / Cheney / Republicans , it was all the Democrats fault .


"The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all."

Ape-Man's picture

Boehner should be recalled, impeached, whatever it takes to get him out of office and McConnell too.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

Liberal AND Proud's picture

Spending cuts increase jobs...decrease jobs...who cares. It's not like the American people actually pay attention to this stuff.

There's more important shit to discuss, like whether or not the spread on the Super Bowl is too close and if Brett Favre is really going to retire.


Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.

Kreskin's picture

Maybe they are smarter and wiser than we are , what is the reward for paying attention and caring ? High blood pressure , anger , depression ? I mean it isn't like we have any power , we do not .


"The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all."

sixandseveneights's picture
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"up is down and down is up. 200 up and down experts agree"
"can you name one?"
"If I weren't drunk and about to cry I would"

ComradeAnon's picture

I thought the repubelicans were starting to taking credit for the economy doing well?

Peter G's picture

counter intuitive thought and counter reality thought. Lowering taxes to increase economic activity is counter intuitive. Cutting spending to increase employment is counter reality.


Hasa Diga Eebowai

They are both so corrupt that it is very hard to even listening to them. We should have been in the street like today Egypt, when Ass Bush was elected to the office by Reagan the mindless and Daddy's appointees to the supreme court. Now it is even worst As a stupid man call W H Bush! write well maybe.
Telling the world that his desicion where right and he would the same thing again. I a little person and do not want to tell that suppose little Bush hat you really you are

Russo's picture
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do you come with subtitles?

NoBuddy's picture

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-barney-fran...

"The nations of Western Europe now collectively have greater resources at their command than we do, yet they continue to depend overwhelmingly on American taxpayers to provide for their defense."

Let's end the world's policeman spending.

CaliforniaMike's picture

They never have before, but who knows? Maybe Boner and Yertle know something we don't.


CaliforniaMike blogs at All Voices and at his own blogs, http://www.mikerappaport.net/onevoice and at http://oneminutewithmike.blogspot.com.

NoBuddy's picture

on spending done in other countries, such as spending for unnecessary military bases. That kind of spending creates a Keynesian effect in the locale where we're spending.

Spending could be evaluated on the likely Keynesian effect that would result from the spending.

But, the Bush tax cuts shouldn't have been extended, since they weren't designed as an economic stimulus. Instead, a different tax cut package should have been assembled that would stimulate the economy.

It seems to me that this whole exercise is required in order to pay for the unstimulating tax cuts for the rich.

I already think that Boehner should visit the Wizard of Oz in order to get some courage, so he can stop crying. But, it looks like he needs to pick up a brain as well, and get some brains for Palin and Bachmann. I think all of these Republicans need a heart.

clara13's picture

Whaaaaaaa? Did I read this correctly? Am I still in bed right now dreaming this?

Wesley E. Ledjennes's picture

that budget CUTS means that THERE's NO MORE PAYCHECKS.

How does that increase jobs? See, when somebody gets no paycheck... that automatically means that they don't have a job anymore.
But he's a Republican... and he may not be able to fathom that sophisticated logic.

Kreskin's picture

If my job was to perpetually lie I would would be emotionally F'd up too .


"The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all."

bmw 528's picture

You have won the grand prize for best promotion of delusional economics---a magical unicorn that farts gold dust. Please have your staff contact me so I can arrange delivery of it on February 30th.


"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."

Robert F. Kennedy

Alerta_Alerta's picture

Put your idea in dev/null, boner! It's bollocks!


Bite my shiny metal ass.
http://www.startalkradio.net/

rtb1961's picture

Typical Republican double speak, cutting spending ie; firing people means hiring people. The logic I suppose for each ten people you fire, you can reduce taxes of the billionaires and they can hire another illegal immigrant servant to clean to the toilets, make their beds, wash their dishes, cook their food and share the scraps with the guard dogs.

Can O Whoopass's picture

the Carny Award, the trophy for a Wino/Winette who used to sell cars drunk, you know, the cars that were owned by 85 year old ladies who only drove 4 miles once a year to the medical marijuana clinic and had no wear and tear, on them!

How he conned the teabaggers into voting him into the speaker's job is beyond me except maybe a sympathy vote cause he can't stop crying over Mr. Magoo and Palin losing ro THAT NI00ER!.
Let's see if his sucesses equal Pelosi's. I already know that answer. FAIL!

The Repubs will get away with crashing the economy again while at the same time convincing the public that their stupid ideas are golden. After the resulting mayhem, they will blame Obama and get one of the mental dwarfs elected President and take back the Senate. Of course the press will support every lie they tell. The American public will then rejoice and loudly exclaim that the country has reclaimed its mantle of greatness.

nick1936's picture

They been in power for a month and there still isn't any jobs. This is longer than they gave Obama before the started yelling where are the jobs

bratboy's picture

Boner is just plain brain-dead, vacuum-between-the-ears, george-w-bush stupid.

Hey boner, get yourself a few more martinis......shaken, not stirred. Dumbass!

Liberal AND Proud's picture

Reply to Kreskin

Yes. Keep sitting on your brain and keep it toasty warm.

We have the highest levels of blood pressure and stress on the globe...and we're ignorant.

I guess we guess too stressed if the video replay is inconclusive.

Why are my replies being posted at the bottom?


Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.

NS57's picture

"Just as Democrats paid a steep price for pursuing health reform at a time of high unemployment, so may Republicans pay dearly if they try to rapidly shrink government while the economy remains weak. Ideological purity is one thing. But it rarely trumps bad timing.'

I'm willing to bet that more average Americans will "Pay dearly" for their bullshit economics then the GOPCons will....But then, wasn't it Mr & Mrs Average who elected these idiots? Karma is indeed a bitch.

Bogie's picture

Phase 1. Spending cuts.
Phase 2. ???
Phase 3. Jobs!!

Simple, really.

bilhelm-x's picture

Big stupid blubbering Idiot

My commentary is so simple to quote these days!

scooter's picture

John Boner is an unmitigated idiot. My 3 year old knows nore than Mr. Spray Tan.

NMLib's picture

...all they want are "jobs" to show that more jobs were created; that doesn't mean the jobs will pay decent wages and benefits.

bluefeather's picture

The issue isn't just jobs. Even slaves had jobs. The issue is wages.
Jim Hightower


Every man must decide whether he will walk in the light of creative altruism or in the darkness of destructive selfishness.
Martin Luther King, Jr.

jmmartin's picture

OK, I was willing to give this slacker politician the benefit of the doubt. Had he kept his mouth shut, he would have had us wondering if he is stupid. By opening it, he convinced us beyond peradventure that he is a champeen ignoramus. He should have played a few more rounds of golf and skipped the Wallace interview. How do these geeks get elected in the first place? They are living proof that in America politician does not equate with intelligence. Economics 101 should have taught him that cuts in spending require layoffs, not hirings. Sheesh! If this guy is leader of the U. S. House, we have a perfect example of the blind leading the blind -- over a cliff.


"Respect for the rights of others is peace." --Benito Juarez

SgtCedar's picture

How many economists work for the Chamber of Commerce? The big oil companies must have hundreds of economists on their payrolls.

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