Ingraham Claims the White House Puts Fox in the Same Category as Islamic Jihadists
By Heather Monday Oct 26, 2009 3:00pm
I'd like to know why the producers of This Week thought it was necessary to bring Laura Ingraham on the show to defend Fox News? She had about as much to add to the conversation as Michelle Malkin did not long ago. The rest of the Villagers did a pretty good job of circling the wagons around Fox whether the likes of Ingraham was there or not. Ingraham's hackery became even too much for the rest of them to take when she started comparing the White House's view of Fox to that of "Islamic Jihadists".
STEPHANOPOULOS: Now the president did cancel the subscription, George, but then he kind of blew it off. Is it time now as President Obama faces down FOX News down for a JFK moment?
WILL: I think so. Look, no president in the history of this republic has less reason to complain about his treatment in the press than President Obama. Liberals have academic, they have a mainstream media, they have Hollywood. They’re all for diversity and everything but thought. And out here is this one channel, FOX, and they’re all up in arms because in the words of Ms. Dunn of the White House, it is opinion journalism masquerading as news, which some of us would say describes the “New York Times” and certainly MSNBC.
PODESTA: Well, we have partners in journalism in America for a couple hundred years. But I think FOX takes it a little bit to a different level. I think Bill Shein, the vice president for news at FOX came out and said, “We are the opposition.” You know, that I think, can you imagine David Westin going out and saying something like that? Anybody, really in the mainstream news organization, they’re organizing. And I think it seems to me they were overcome with that feeling of joy you get from telling the truth once in a while. And probably they may actually even regret going as far as they have.
INGRAHAM: Well as the FOX representative on this show, by the way, you’re all going to be banned from any future White House events from having me at this table.
Bill Shein said that and I know him well. He said that, because he believes that of all the networks, FOX was going to hold the administration the most accountable. Last time I checked, I thought that was the role of the press. I think and again, I might not be invited back George, but when Charlie Gibson didn’t know what the ACORN story was all about, that was a collective gasp you heard across the United States. Charlie Gibson is an esteemed journalist, how do you not know a story about a group where President Obama cut his political teeth that had been exposed to the extent that Democrats and Republicans on Capitol Hill were ready to pull the rug out from under them in their funding? That’s the kind of the story that the White House doesn’t want to have reported and repeated on other networks. That’s why they don’t like FOX News.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, Charlie has had an amazing career. Let’s set aside that moment. I do think one of the things the White House is trying to get at is something that you’re talking about, though. Al, it seems like they’re trying to actually influence the ref a little bit here.
One of the reasons they’re going after FOX News is because they don’t want people to -- or other news organizations to automatically assume because something is being pushed on FOX that it is automatically a legitimate news story. And they want everyone to think twice.
HUNT: They are going after reps, but that’s what all politicians do. I must say, I’m amused that Karl Rove is shocked, just shocked, that they would go after the press. And that’s a scene out of “Casablanca” really. But, on the other hand, I do agree with George. I wouldn’t want to get into an alley fight with Roger Ailes. He’s pretty good at bat and I’m not quite sure why this White House. If I were advising them and I’m not, I would tell them to call time-out.
TUCKER: Well, I have to agree with Al on that. The scandal for the Obama administration is not that they’re trying to manipulate the news media, but that they seem to be so clumsy at it. Every administration tires to manipulate the news media.
STEPHANOPOULOS: They have gotten pretty good press though.
TUCKER: They’ve gotten pretty good press. Clearly, they’re annoyed with FOX, particularly as Laura said, over some stories that have gone into the broader media.
TUCKER: But the Bush administration, for heaven sakes, gave taxpayer money to conservative columnists like Maggie Gallagher, to highlight, to speak favorably of Bush administration proposals.
So, if you want to manipulate the news media, that’s the way to do it.
INGRAHAM: The point here is that it looks desperate, it looks defensive. And it’s a no-win situation for the administration. I can tell you who’s smiling, Roger, Bill Shine, and all the rest of us who work for FOX News, because our ratings are going up, as this bunker mentality has set in at the White House. I think they must think it’s good for them. I don’t know why they would do it if they didn’t think it helped them with the left in the United States or frustrated by Afghanistan or other issues.
STEPHANOPOULOS: I think that’s probably part of it. I think it probably does make the liberals feel a little bit better, at least one fight is being taken on.
But, George, my guess is that before the end of the year, the White House will try to find a way, maybe not sign a peace treaty with FOX News, but I think you would probably imagine you’ll see President Obama back on Bill O’Reilly. And I think the other thing they’re trying to do is to draw a line between the opinion side of FOX News and the news side.
And actually in some ways, they have less trouble with the pure opinion, because they say we can take that on own its own terms and not treat them as news.
WILL: Sure, but, they also have to break the habit of trying to silence people who are not in journalism. The Chamber of Commerce there, trying to delegitimize. The -- Humana, the health provider that sent a message to its client that the White House didn’t like, and the White House then denounced it. The Chrysler bondholders were told to comply with this fake and fraudulent bankruptcy that they put Chrysler through, or else -- it wasn’t clear what else, but the threat was clear.
It was a kind of bullying aspect to this that is just unseemly.
PODESTA: Well, look, I think you take the example of the chamber. The chamber has opposed the administration on energy, on health care, et cetera. They’re going to push back. I don’t see that... WILL: Not on the stimulus.
PODESTA: ... I don’t see that -- I don’t see how whatever the White House is trying to silence the Chamber. They’re in a fight with them about the policy direction of the country. I noticed just -- it was just announced that Rahm Emanuel is going to speak to the chamber. I’m sure he’s going to give them a piece of his mind when he goes and does it. But that’s the normal give and take in Washington. And I don’t think that the administration has been excessive in any way about -- in those contexts.
INGRAHAM: I think a lot of people are saying if the administration had the same view of the way to treat other threats to the United States, whether economic threats or real threats, Islamic jihadists, and they’ll probably put FOX in that same category, then it would be OK. I mean, they’re so impassioned about FOX, meanwhile, it’s kind of like their even rhetoric about other threats.
(CROSSTALK)
STEPHANOPOULOS: ... around Islamic jihadists and...
(CROSSTALK)
INGRAHAM: Well, I just think honestly...
STEPHANOPOULOS: I mean, come on.
(LAUGHTER)
INGRAHAM: ... the passion, the passion, when you send out Emanuel, and Axelrod, and the president comments on it, I haven’t seen them talk about other real threats in the same coordinated and sophisticated way as they’re going after FOX.
(CROSSTALK)
PODESTA: When drones start flying over FOX News...
(LAUGHTER)
INGRAHAM: Really, I mean, honestly.
(CROSSTALK)
TUCKER: It appears that this Nixonian meme developed when just a couple of weeks ago, the president was being denounced as weak, effete, not even as strong as the French president.
INGRAHAM: We wouldn’t even treat the terrorists like that.
(CROSSTALK)
HUNT: I’m old enough to remember enemies list meant you were wiretapping people, and you were pulling their tax returns, that’s the kind of stuff that scares me...
INGRAHAM: That could be coming.
HUNT: I mean -- no, I think not.






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Come on the first lesson you learn in talk radio is to "Shock the crowd, people hate a car wreck, but they tune in". She's just doing her job.
Ignore the car wreck that is Fox. It will turn into a conflagration (as is doing now) then will implode and take itself down.
seems to be the way things work in this country anymore.
this country works anymore¿
They have this look like, "I'd better say something really outrageous or really stupid quickly, or I'm going to lose my job."
It's really pathetic.
Typical of the medium cross over ...Her stock and trade is talk radio--not coherent thought! No solutions but divert attention to a more outrageous train of thought..
Read the Shock Doctrine or Looming Towers...It is time we look the truth in the eye!
[quote]HUNT: I’m old enough to remember enemies list meant you were wiretapping people, and you were pulling their tax returns, that’s the kind of stuff that scares me...
INGRAHAM: That could be coming. [/quote]
Mr Hunt, that is GWB's modus operandi! Fox was for that then.
Faux and it's lying weasels are nothing like Jihadis willing to die for their crazy cause - they're both groups of violent wingnuts, but Faux Neocons don't have any guts, and no real convictions, unless you call lying for a living a conviction. They're a bunch of chickenhawks, just like their heroes in the Shrub administration. Unfortunately, you can't say that about Jihadis, who are all too willing to die.
don't forget their rampant hedonism--their raison d'etre.
And wasn't it a Republican (TX) that proudly proclaimed that he and his party were the "American Taliban"?
From RM Nixon forward, every Republican has been doing their best to empower the Corporatist State, All of their laying of groundwork culminated in the greatest advance toward National Socialism (fascism) under GW Bush, including preemptive wars of imperialism (oil & oil pipelines), total surveillance of the American public, war crimes, extreme rendition, harsh interrogation techniques, suspension of habeous corpus, curtailing of 1st, 4th, 5th, 9th, and 10th Amendment rights, war profiteering, Global War OF Terror (Darth Cheney's UAV Murder Inc.), Global War OF Drugs (CIA/NSA opium/heroin/cocaine network), and rigged/stolen elections. High crimes and, yes, Treason.
So, why TF aren't all these gangsters from the last administration not being tried, or in prison, or swinging from a tree? Couldn't be because BH Obama is the Tweedle-Dee/Tweedle-Dum Corporatist State twin?
Laura Ingraham is either a Propagandist OR Projectionist (or BOTH), as well as a Corporatist whore.
...she's psychotic.
d) all of the above.
here's what i don't get...It sucks the news is run by corporations that are trying to out do each other. But here's a chance for the rest of the semi legit news organizations to put Fox out of its misery by ganging up on their shock jock partisan infotainment and they all line up to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Is that journalists show solidarity when one of their colleagues' access is threatened. The idea is, the next time, it could be themselves frozen out. However, what the media is doing is somewhat short-sighted in that Fox is NOT a legitimate, independent news outlet but is headed by a former Republican operative who was NEVER a journalist and that their coverage is unfair, unbalanced, not factual, edited to eliminate any possibly positive coverage of the opposition and therefore should not be given a break.
Did Fox show any of this solidarity when it was given consistently exclusive access to Bush? Of course not. Why then are the organizations doing so now for this ungrateful outlet? Who knows? Perhaps they are all in corporate cahoots.
Back in the 60's tv reporters made $20-$30,000 a year. Anchors made maybe $50k. Back then they stuck to their idealistic views and didn't give a crap if Pat Weaver at CBS canned them.
They would simply go back to working at the newspaper they left.
Most hated the restrictions put on them by sponsors and bible belters, anyway.
Today the stakes are super high. Get fired now and you'll lose millions. Toe the party format and you'll be handsomely rewarded. (Hannity's 15 room mansion worth $12.8 mil).
Most of FOX's distorters came from small-medium markets.
O'Reilly - gossip tv, mostly.
Hannity - Long Island radio.
Gibson - California 'lib' tv.
Malkin - alternative newspapers.
Carlson - skin flute player.
etc.
"Today the stakes are super high. Get fired now and you'll lose millions. Toe the party format and you'll be handsomely rewarded. (Hannity's 15 room mansion worth $12.8 mil)."
When you get paid that much, you aren't a whore, you're a 'call girl.'
I heard he's been practicing a lot recently. that's why he's not on TV as much anymore... =( I got this news from the same source that said Glenn Beck raped a girl in the 90s.
No MSM journalist is going to critize Fox that much because they do not want to eliminate a potential future job opportunity. News core is massive and has it hands in many media and news properties. It would be stupid for an commentator at say CBS or CNN to critize Fox much, as you never know it may provide a good job opportunity in the future.
Can we PLEASE stop calling these vile Corporatist M$M whores news persons or 'journalists'?!? They are neither.
Culture Warriors, religious zealots, threaten war to force others to live like them...
I don't know why people would find similarities.
And of course Stephanopoulos allowed that hag to dominate "the round table" with her bitter lies and dumbass analogies.
He's the lefts Stossel.
Stosselpoulos?
George Snuffleupagus
What a surprise. So do I
True, but at least he did call her out on that comment while the rest of the panel appeared to be laughing at her. As well they should!
Publicly shame them by laughing in their face in a room full of their peers. There's NO good comeback if you can't laugh at yourself; these people can't.
infants. Obviously their core audience are already there but they still have some dumbing down to do yet.
All I have to say to those Reichwhiners: If the shoe fits....
For that matter, I think Jihadist have more honor than these Pukes.
at Michelle Obama's enemy list. (found herself)
http://www.globemagazine.com/story/361
is if you work for them. They don't pay people to watch.
ingraham lays on the drama pretty thick. fox is part of the corporate propaganda machine all lies and profit all the time.
I say the FOX Players are some kind of broadcast Jihadists, but i'm just an ape-man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSSRJF9P-4U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4waQGC4ff9M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzfD6y2_Hz8
No fair when the Libbrills fight back!
And they're wrong?
We either pull together or we just keep screaming and shouting at each other while the country continues its slide into oblivion.
Or is this all just going to pass at some point and we'll all be back to happily consuming as if nothing ever happened.
Did you say something? I couldn't hear you over the Totino Pizza Rolls I was chomping on.
..is on. (be quiet)
I don't follow sports.
...and I don't follow sports either. (good for both of us)
Well I do rather fancy jello wrestling.
Fly those drones over to Faux Nooze!
Stick to baseball, lying asshole. Dobbs, McLauglin Group, Killer Joe Scarborough, Kurtz, John King, Dancing Dave Gregory, Biltzer, Matthews, oh and Georgie, your weekly, right wing stacked shitty show.
Osama Bin Laden
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
Khalid Sheik Mohammed
Rhamzi Bin Al Sheid
Fox News
Khalid Almihdhar
Wail M. Alshehri
Laura Ingraham
Satam M.A. Al Suqami
Abdulaziz Alomari...continued...
Ron Paul.
...returning veterans.
people with pocket contitutions...gun owners...
It happened again today during the President's speech at Jacksonville (FL) Naval Air Station. That's a change from their coverage of virtually all of Bush's speeches. Fox, your bias is showing. When a President gives a speech, that's his or her "bully pulpit," and it's news whether you like it or not, especially in this age where cable "news" networks have 24 hours to fill, and balloon boys, runaway brides, and the trite and tawdry easily rise to the level of coverage.
protesting Obama's plane landing though.
Fair and balanced? You decide...
Please tell me that is not what I think it is. Am I missing something here....
A senior moment.
criticizing the press leading into the segment.
What do they call that? Subliminal message?
Whether or not the White House said it, I do equate the nuts at Faux News with the Islamic fundies who think it's ok to kill Rushdie for writing a book. No doubt about it. They're just being more subtle about it than the Ayatollah and his thugs.
I would put them in the same category as carnival barker's and lunatics.
If Fox wants to join the family of nations (journalism), it needs to follow international (journalistic) norms.
The difference would be????
But kids, Laura is a Christian. She wears her little cross. That proves she can't be wrong about anything, right? She is righteous in her knowledge and will not be stopped by pesky little things like facts and stuff. Only a stupid bitch like her would feel compelled to throw out the word "jihadist".
See ya in hell Laura.
she taught her young daughter to say she wanted to 'frow dat bad man (Obama) in the fi-ya !"... isnt that hilarious?
You don't have to hate yourself and live a lie anymore Laura. It's ok to be gay. Tell that to Coulter too!
"...it seems like they’re trying to actually influence the ref a little bit here..."
The phrase you are groping for is 'work the ref' ya stumpy frikken twerp ...
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1067
"...comparing the White House's view of Fox to that of "Islamic Jihadists"....?
nah... I was thinking used Kleenex, or the Sham-Wow Guy ...
efftard!! teh stoopid... it hurts!
What's the difference between Fox News and Fox Opinion?
like all fox TV people except possibly Shep are incapable of speaking without lying or misrepresenting and topic they speak of.
Is nuts. Or whatever her name is.
Apparently, this whole thing struck a nerve there.
Why else would they be so paranoid?
ingraham crackers?
These idiots on ABC, NBC, CNN and the like are allowing themselves to be exploited. They ought to know that people like Ingraham are there to self-promote, not to discuss an issue seriously.
Don't you just love how they shouted down anybody who had any criticism of the president while Bush was in office, but now they're gloating that their ratings are going up because they're slamming the president and at putting the White House in a "bunker mentality"—AS IF THEY ARE AT WAR WITH THE WHITE HOUSE!!!
Their
ratingsrantings are going up?That's because another 100,000 bigots and morons lost their jobs, and they don't have anything else to do all day long except stare at the Fucks freak shows. They are obviously too stupid to figure out it was the oligarch's who screwed them, otherwise they couldn't possibly watch this shit.
For the chronically stupid, it is more fun to watch Beck, Insannity and O'Rally, and get a good hate-on for those other types of folks who ain't like real Murkins, than it is to think critically. Thinking is hard work!
But considering the millions who are unemployed, I wouldn't put too much credence in that extra 100k of morons Fucks has dredged-up.
I think that Fox belongs a rung below Islamic Jihadists: at least the Jihadists are sincere and not making megabucks off of the woe they cause.
At least the Jihadists have the integrity not to abandon their entire belief system just to make a buck.
The soulless fakes at Fox News will sell their entire country down the river for money, even if it means the total destruction of the country itself.
...eventually the monkeys will write something coherent. it seems the same thing's happened to ingraham.
"HUNT: I’m old enough to remember enemies list meant you were wiretapping people, and you were pulling their tax returns, that’s the kind of stuff that scares me...
INGRAHAM: That could be coming.
HUNT: I mean -- no, I think not."
given that beck poisoned pelosi in effigy on his show it wouldn't surprise me one bit if the secret service has wire tapped him.
"given that beck poisoned pelosi in effigy on his show it wouldn't surprise me one bit if the secret service has wire tapped him."
Don't let Beck hear you. Who knows what bizarre blubbering would come forth from him next! :|
"It was the best of times, it was the blorst of times."
She's say's that like it's a bad thing.
I probably wouldn't even know anything about this obscure hag if I didn't read this blog. The less than 1% that watch Fake news might of heard of her, and concerned progressives, that's it.
Now please can we rendition these screaming idiots and get on with fixing this mess?
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness!
I would ask Doctor Tiller about his feelings regarding Fox News and whether it aids and abets terrorism, but I can not seem to get a hold of him.
This chick is insane - no question about it -- and she has a voice like a brillo pad.
*
Many of these FOX Players will probably come to regret their actions.
..I'm sorry, I'm laughing too hard. george will can be a card, can't he? "Look, no president in the history of this republic has less reason to complain about his treatment in the press than President Obama. Liberals have academic, they have a mainstream media, they have Hollywood. They’re all for diversity and everything but thought."
What a schmuck?
FOX has TV jihadists - extremists that spread ignorance and disinformation en-mass. Kinda scary when the jihadists among us emerge as a major media corporation. I bet FOX people think they can actually win the hearts and minds of America with their ferocious accusations and name calling - just like jihadists everywhere.
FOX Player = common, every day jihadist, propagandist, angry, frightened, confused, uncooperative, potentially dangerous.
FOX should just pull the plug and shutter their doors. they're all millionaires, and they'll never get anything right.
For someone who appears to be anti-latino, this witch adopts a little girl baby from Guatamala! Some say she is hiding the fact that she's a lesbian....I don't know but I wonder if it's because she might be rejected by all her right wing anti gay fanatical friends and associates.
should not be in charge of a grade school girl's stuffed animal collection, much less a real, living child. It will definitely take a village to raise that poor kid because her mother is a self-loathing hag.
Both hate America, sponsor and give voice to those who vow to undermine our duly elected president, and generate irrational arguments for those who intend to destroy our government/us; why the denial, and what's the argument?
wills comments, ingrahams absurd comments about acorn and holding a president accountable...and so on
"Last time I checked, I thought that was the role of the press."
The last (and first) time you checked would be Jan. 20, 2009, correct?
is that Islamic jihadists are an altogether better and far more reasonable group of people to deal with than any randomly picked FOX employee. Now, those are some real nutcases psychos.
I don't know about the White House but I do , both are enemies of this country and are out to destroy her , hell , the Fox anarchists have done and are doing more damage to this country than the Islamic Jihadists have been able to do .
I put Fox in the same category as turds.
"Bill Shein said that and I know him well. He said that, because he believes that of all the networks, FOX was going to hold the administration the most accountable. Last time I checked, I thought that was the role of the press. I think and again, I might not be invited back George, but when Charlie Gibson didn’t know what the ACORN story was all about, that was a collective gasp you heard across the United States. Charlie Gibson is an esteemed journalist, how do you not know a story about a group where President Obama cut his political teeth that had been exposed to the extent that Democrats and Republicans on Capitol Hill were ready to pull the rug out from under them in their funding? That’s the kind of the story that the White House doesn’t want to have reported and repeated on other networks. That’s why they don’t like FOX News."
Comedy gold there. I guess Fox decided it was only interested in holding the Obama administration accountable? The collective gasp heard across the U.S. when Gibson didn't know about Fox's desperate attempts to make ACORN a story? Man, this woman is so ridiculous. Who really, truly gives a fuck what she says?
"FOX was going to hold the administration the most accountable"
Like when they nailed down Bush on WMDs? That kind of "accountable"?
Or the kind of "accountable" that involves fabricating stories (ACORN), manufacturing events (Tea Parties) or spreading baseless rumours (Obama's a Marxist, Communist, Fascist Totalitarian Dictator)???
Fox News is so far from being press, it makes The Enquirer look like The Guardian.
INGRAHAM has intereed the Coulter zone.
The Coulter Zone is a spin off from the TV show, Twilight Zone
Rod Serling was prettier.
A paid liar and a smarmy asshole.
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness!
This woman ingram such a lying fool. Acorn what a bunch of crap all made up at fox out of whole cloth!
Why watch fox I never do except here.
The strategy is working, if it isn't why is the (word used loosely) lady ingraham being flaunted, the Nit Wit Net Work she represents is going down so good riddance to bad rubbish.
these nit wits on these shows? I know that Will is the trade-marked conservative puffed up asshole of record for the Stephanopolos show, but why do they have Ingraham on anything? She's stupid, she's ignorant, and she's horse-faced, what's the draw?
I hate to give someone like an Ingraham, who basically knows very little about the big topics that are talked about (what could she possible know about Afghanistan?), but in this case, when she and others like her are forced to sit down, out of her normally controlled environment, and actually discusss in some kind of logical manner issues it really shows how little she knows and how she is all about politics and bashing the other side no matter what. Her discussion here, between rolling her eyes at the others comments, was so superficial. It was funny that everyone at the table laughed at her when she brought up Islamic Jihadists and Obama. That comment said it all. Bring up ridiculously stupid things to do nothing else but to try and slim or tear down her opponents. People like Ingraham with their big radio platforms do this country a disservice. It is easy to be a critic all the time, but what value does she really add to make this country a better place?
To bring on Ingraham, one of the Reslugs stupidist whores, shows Faux's total desperation and crybaby bedwetting.
Laura: "Bill Shein said that and I know him well. He said that, because he believes that of all the networks, FOX was going to hold the administration the most accountable."
You mean like you did Bush? I can't recall one time, not even one, where Fox held the W Whitehouse accountable for a damned thing.
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