GOP Tsunami Warning? Democrats and Republicans Now Tied in Generic Tracking Poll
Ed Schultz and Joan Walsh discuss the upcoming mid-term elections and this constant drumbeat we're hearing about how the Republicans are going to have a "GOP tsunami" this time around and regain the House and possibly the Senate. As Joan noted, these national polls that are being made so much of are all over the place and it might be a little bit early to put too much stock in them and as she also noted that generic poll that showed the Republicans up by ten points last week now shows them tied again.
That apparently isn't stopping the media from yapping non-stop about how the Democrats are going to get beaten horribly in the mid-terms. While I agree that the enthusiasm gap is real, I think the media is doing their best to create a self-fulfilling prophecy with their constant carping on the issue.
UPDATE: Joan has more on her interview over at Salon and I agree completely with this statement on how our mainstream media is acting right now.
I don't want to sugarcoat the Democrats' obstacles from here to November. It doesn't look great. But there's an MSM groupthink going on where for now, there's a rush to be the one to declare the Dems are in the WORST trouble. Soon, someone will decide to get attention by going counterintuitive, and suggest things aren't so bad for the Dems. Then, finally, we'll have the actual election and know what happened.
As she also noted, it's quite possible some of those poll numbers aren't looking too good because voters just aren't paying attention yet. The Democratic Party has their problems but I don't think our country can survive the Republicans getting control back of the Congress right now. I know I'm getting sick to death of watching this constant drumbeat by our media acting like the elections are already over and the Democrats have already lost. Some of them are actually talking about it in the past tense. It's pathetic. Note to the Villagers, it's not November yet as much as you'd like it to be.
If the choice is to either vote 3rd party or else sit out the mid-term elections, i.e. not voting for the lessor of two evils, and watching the majority Republicans destroy the country within the next 2 to 3 years, OR to vote for the lessor of two evils and watching the majority Democrats destroy the country within the next 4 to 5 years, I might prefer the former.
< http://www.therealdifference.org/issues.html >
The DLC-led Democrats, particularly in Reid's Senate Chamber and the Obama White House, have done a good job of advancing the agenda of the crony corporations rather similarly to what the Republicans have been doing for the past 12 years. Killing off the USA as a democratic republic by the death of a thousand cuts, instead of a slashed throat, is still just as dead. Dead is dead, period.
But voting for a 3rd party would mean, for me at least, voting my conscience and not for that Hobson's Choice of merely the lessor of two evils. And I might actually live to see the dawn of that new revolution begin ...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-- John F. Kennedy
Personally I've always preferred to vote with my brain.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
... aren't you a foreigner?
Doesn't that render your opinion on voting in the USA rather moot?
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
Other countries have elections.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
.. and some of them have real 3rd parties ..
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
long enough to see that in this country. Some day, maybe when my grandchildren are old, intelligent people may realize that the only way to have clean elections is more than two parties, but I think there will have to be another revolution before that happens. Maybe when we get enough minorities in the country to do an overthrow....but until that happens, the oligarchy wins.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
We have a first-past-the-post system that doesn't have proportional voting. The latter of which would be a prerequisite for multi-party systems.
Lani Guinier suggested proportional voting and was hustled off fast, as a threat to "the one man one vote," system.
It would take a constitutional amendment most likely to change Article II, so anyone can win with less than 51% of the vote.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
of a response was shocking as well.
You know damned well what I mean.
But this is an electoral system which you are not able to participate nor vote in, so what you vote with is irrelevant when it comes to chastise a person in this country and their voting decisions.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
I merely offer an alternative strategy. We have more parties than you do and more electoral choices. The US two party system allows the system to be gamed. I wonder if you know what percentages of Ralph Nader's campaign funds in his last presidential run came from people who also donated to the Bush Cheney campaign? Until you get some sort of electoral reform third party votes for anything but local offices are a complete waste.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
... insinuating somebody's voting choice is "brainless" is not what I could consider an encouraging opinion.
... so we should keep electing the very people for whom actual electoral reform is against their interests.... as a way to enact electoral reform some day? That makes total sense!
BTW, Obama's campaign also received a significant amount of donations from people and corporations which also donate to the McCain/Palin campaign. Seriously, some of these talking points are becoming tiresome.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
It was proven a long time ago that the donations you're referring to were largely from individuals. From within the corporations. And that McCains donations were far more from Corporations. Not individual donations.
Seriously, that talking point has been debunked so many times now, that correcting it has become tiresome.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
who post here and they are Americans so perhaps their advice would carry more weight with you. They believe, rightly I think, that the key to third party success will only be possible when electoral reform takes place. Ask Nicole Bell, for example. She's a Green party supporter.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
I think not. And I too have made protest votes along the way knowing full well that in a first past the post system my vote counted for essentially nothing. I have never done that when so important an election hung in the balance. Sometimes only the "lesser of two evils" strategy makes sense.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
This is the way I felt when I lived in Florida, back in 2000. That's why I voted for Nader.
...
It's also how I learned that my vote REALLY MATTERED, and that we can't let the Republicans destroy our country. You're not voting for the lesser of two evils. You're voting for educated people who vote in their own self-interests. Trust me, that is better than a bunch of plutocrat ideologues interested in deregulating everything they can and creating a new hereditary aristocracy.
... convenient and completely unverifiable anecdote.
But didn't Gore's choice of VP, a certain Lieberman, go on to kiss Bush's ass and approve everything that the Bush administration proposed sometimes even with more gusto than some Republicans?
I dunno, but 10 years after the fact... 50% of the 2000 Dem ticket seems indistinguishable from the GOP.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
but the Republicans have elected to veer even further to the right. The majority of both parties used to be what were called, I believe, moderates.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
exactly?
Impeaching a sitting president for a blowjob and the Contract on America do not strike me as the actions of a bunch of reasonable people. Gingrich and his gang were to the right of Attila the Hun. So I don't particularly think that the GOP veered that much to the right from where they already resided.
It seems that in 2000, with the inclusion of Lieberman, the Dems chose to veer right as well which is what I find more problematic as an actual liberal. Not that Clinton was that much of a leftie anyhow. I know it is easier to just blame Nader, but still... there are some obvious elephants in the room (pun intended)
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
all is relative. What was once considered fairly right wing in the Republican party are now their version of moderates and long standing incumbents are getting primary challenges from their wholly owned subsidiaries the teabaggers.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
I thought Lieberman was the Corporate Criminal's insurance, like LBJ.
If Bush didn't "win" the election a single well-placed bullet would put Lieberman in control.
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
Your vote matters whether you use it or not.
That's the power of the vote. I don't HAVE to vote for what's presented before me. I can withhold my vote and send a message.
Voting is NOT about ensuring the other side doesn't win. The vote is your way of exercising YOUR political power.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
and sometimes that's all in good conscious you can do. Fortunately I haven't found myself in that position too often. Usually I've found there is a candidate I need to vote against. I always go to the voting booth though because we still use paper ballots and in lieu of an x it is nice to leave a pithy little editorial on the parentage of the candidates.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
party or else sit out the mid-term elections, i.e. not voting for the lessor of two evils, and watching the majority Republicans destroy the country within the next 2 to 3 years, OR to vote for the lessor of two evils and watching the majority Democrats destroy the country within the next 4 to 5 years, I might prefer the former.
I can't believe you just said that..........you would rather condemn the country to certain destruction than choose the outcome that has a chance to be changed for the better. Rethugs will certainly destroy the country.....Democrats have the possibility of being persuaded to do the right thing. Guess we'd better be packing our bags to flee. If the Rethugs win, it's all over.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
Read my post above, glo.
I'm not voting simply to deny victory to the other side. I am sending a message.
Obviously even the Dems are smart enough to figure it out. That's why they're throwing Rahm over the side. Unfortunately, too little too late. We are stuck with the candidates the monied elite have chosen.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
From Media Matters:
Fox calls for repeal of the 20th century
September 07, 2010 2:43 pm ET — 110 Comments
Since President Obama's election, Fox personalities have expressed opposition to or called for the repeal of virtually every progressive achievement of the 20th century, including Social Security, Medicare, the Americans with Disabilities Act, portions of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and the 16th and 17th Amendments to the Constitution.
Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid
17th Amendment
16th Amendment
Americans with Disabilities Act
Civil Rights Act of 1964
Voting Rights Act of 1965
Nuclear arms control
Abortion rights
Labor unions
Department of Education
Unemployment insurance
Environmental Protection Agency
Progressive taxation
That may sound like something from The Onion, but it's not....it's from MEDIA MATTERS AND IT'S A LEGITIMATE HEADLINE,
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
Each "service" listed requires confiscating money and/or inflating the currency and giving a small number of people the power to control others under the threat of violence. Have these programs worked? Is a single one of them solvent? Are bureaucracies the best way to accomplish given ends in a society? If there was any element of reality governing government, if it couldn't counterfeit money, where would it be? Do you think allowing a few privileged individuals to counterfeit money endlessly for the "common good" is a good idea?
With so many bureaucrats and so many programs in place to protect us from ourselves, why is the environment worse than ever? Why are blacks on average in the most dismal circumstances? Why are our children coming out of public school so phenomenally ignorant and incompetent? Why are we so fat and unhealthy?
Oh, I know, because we don't have enough government programs, and because of something to do with Republicans, no doubt. It couldn't just be that the basic assumption, that we need to create a new bureaucracy for every problem and inconvenience, is asinine.
The purpose of Crooks and Liars is to keep small-minded individuals thinking in terms of the left vs. right garbage they've been trained to respond to.
OK, so you REALLY want to abolish these? Well, that's certain death for maybe a third of Seniors for whom these are the only things that are supporting them.
Do you REALLY want to have that blood on your hands?
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
Glo, there are lots of people who don't...but face facts...the country does.
Polling shows that the country wants lower taxes, etc.
Well, the uneducated only react to pain. Maybe it will take the elimination of those programs to wake the country up...or maybe simply the pain of the threat.
I say...so be it...BRING ON THE PAIN.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
at this rate, it won't be long.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8myK93FqbYc
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
...(sighs)*
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
pick an arbitrary point to stop. The same argument you use must be applied to all government functions at all levels. Why should I pay taxes to fund a fire department because you were silly enough to let your house be struck by lightning and catch fire.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
When you consider the reality of election fraud, and the fact that even when the votes are counted correctly, the election is a fraud because the politicians will say or do anything to get votes--and the fact that every election is decided, in pretty much absolute terms, by who can buy the most TV commercials--the whole thing is an insult to your intelligence.
Ever wonder why so much time is spent touting the virtues democracy in your government history books and official opinion sources? They're getting you to submit control over your life and your earnings because, wow, the democratic process has just produced such and such a result... at least 51 percent of the population wants a bigger military, or a massive healthcare bureaucracy, so now The Government in this noble democracy will come and take your money away at gunpoint and make you comply with the voted-upon results. Hey, they don't want to rob you and threaten you and your family to pay for policies you despise, they're just representing The People. Hell, they're representing YOU. You get to participate in a DEMOCRACY!
It's all a joke. There are no Democrats or Republicans. There's a system of greedy lowlifes forcing your choices and behaviors with the ever-present threat of violence, and there's a huge propaganda machine in place to convince you that there are actually good intentions and hot debates within the system of lowlifes.
The purpose of Crooks and Liars is to keep small-minded individuals thinking in terms of the left vs. right garbage they've been trained to respond to.
Obama's administration and a rather large portion of the DLC-led Democratic Party in Congress have been "voting with their feet" regarding the adoption of the crony corporatist agenda, even if in something less than rigid lock-step with their Republican Party cohorts in Congress. Both parties feel greater affinity with their political "loyal opposition" than they do with the American working class, with the sole exception being the run-up to elections. Take a closer look at those "legislative victories" that do little for the People, and far more for their crony corporatist masters. Everything else is just political theatre.
The real difference between the Democrats and the Republicans:
< http://www.therealdifference.org/issues.html >
The "inside-the-Beltway" camaraderie between the Democrats and Republicans:
< http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08/09... >
It doesn't take the genius of a rocket scientist to recognize that Obama and the DLC have disparaged the Independent Liberals, the Progressive Democrats, and those crazy "Professional Leftists" from the first days of the Obama administration. Or that only now, mere weeks before the mid-term elections has Obama's "populist campaign rhetoric" suddenly found a new public voice.
Nobody here on C&L apparently can see that the "Peanuts" cartoon of "Lucy With The Football" is 100% relevant to the political reality ignored here. So much for critical thinking skills, I suppose.
PFF, really. And sad as well.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-- John F. Kennedy
Polls are still land-line based, meaning you're getting the older voter, also most likely to vote
But not the cell phone user only, who tend to be younger and a wild card in elections.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
found to his dismay.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
they had cell phones back then?
really?
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
But the polls showing that Dewey would win were based on land line phones, the only kind then in existence of course, ignoring the fact that many voters at the lower end of the income spectrum had none. They voted disproportionately for Truman. He won. http://blogs4brownback.files.wordpress.com/20... Surprise. Surprise.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
When it's within a point or two, _somehow_ the Republican always seems to win.
easier to commit fraud when it's within a point or two (small margin), i.e. 2004 in Ohio. The huge margin for Obama made it impossible to steal that election. The only insurance of a clean election for Democrats is to come out in numbers....or, sure as the sun will rise, the Rethugs will steal the election by fraud by broken machines, closing polls early, missing absentee votes, etc.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
(or whatever they're called now)? Aside, of course, from those several thousand that went up in flames in a Houston warehouse recently? Just asking...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
but a warehouse full seems like a good start.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
Is this one of those GOP funded special interest polls? Creating the narrative that the republicans are going to win. Then the GOP election software will do its thing in tricks and places. And the media will play dumb to the whole affair. Again?
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
The Democrats have a great opportunity to pick up at least two Senate seats. Alaska and Kentucky. There is no reason why the Dems cannot get these seats. Miller in Alaska is batshit nuts and Rand Paul is ... uh... Rand Paul. Get those folks in east Kentucky out to vote. The Dems also have a chance to get the North Carolina Senate seat.
New Hampshire too?
I think the dems may pick up 1-3 Senate seats, which I would gladly trade for a dozen bluedog House seats.
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
As disappointed as I have been with Obama and the Democratic majorities in both houses of congress I'll still vote Democratic this election.
My Democratic congressperson has done good things for my district, and though conservative by national standards he's no Blue Dog Dem. Running against him this time are a Republican who doesn't even live in the district and a teabagger who is off the deep end. So it's an easy choice to make.
The only antidote to our disappointment is to retrench, put more progressives in office, and constantly harass our elected reps to do the right thing.
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
you're my new hero.....logical thinking about what we have to do......and how long it will take. Nothing good comes easy. We have to start from the ground up again.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
Hold your nose if you must.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
I remember watching a hearing about electronic voting machine fraud and hearing an expert explaining that the only way to steal an election is to have the public believe that it is a close race. This way the results can be believably altered to a desired outcome. If you look at elections not just here in the U.S. but seemingly everywhere since machines have come into widespread use, almost every election is neck and neck, many requiring recounts and the courts to determine the actual winner. I don't trust any of it.
Do you believe everything the media says? Me? No.
Now, there is some truth to what the media says. Every good lie has a kernel of truth to it.
But do I believe the GOp will win in a landslide? No.
Will they win some seats? Yes, I think they will. But they will also lose some seats they already have right now. So, I actually see this as a dead heat.
The GOp will win some seats. Just not as many as they think they will. I don't think they'll take the House or Senate.
What I would like to know, is why isn't the media reporting on the possible loss of seats of the GOp?
They have to lose some seats.
I think some GOp'rs will stay home. Just out of disgust caused by the behavior of the Teabaggers.
The racism, the religious discrimination, homophobia and the all around over the top behavior directed at the President. Just a few weeks ago, they were railing about the Constitution. And that the Dems were trying to subvert the Constitution. Then, the building in Manhattan. Hypocrisy.
Religious discrimination. Pure and simple. They can't have it both ways. Now this crazy fool preacher wanting to burn Qurans. Why is this man so willing to harm our troops? I thought they supported our troops. Another case of hypocrisy.
The only way they can win overwhelmingly is for Dems to stay home. The Dems are good at that in midterms. To score political points, the GOp has allowed the teabaggers to go unchecked with their rhetoric. This, has resulted in divided nation worse than when Bush was in office.
It all comes down to, do you want the people who are responsible for fucking up this country to be back in charge? To me? This is a no brainer. Just look at the way they've been behaving.
Let your conscience be your guide.
Oh, one more thing. Boxer has raised 12 mill. Fiorina has raised 1 mill. Why haven't we heard about that in the media?
What is your conceptual, continuity?
Only if they're supporting a Republican President. But you knew that already, muddy...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
I do believe that is the 20% that is the teabaggers in the GOp.
But, I have to admit, right now it's hard to tell the difference.
This morning Boehner was speaking about this book burning by the crazy preacher.
He was speaking against it. I think they see that they've gone too far.
They keep up with certain blogs as a guide. Like Newsvine. Certainly not a Liberal blog.
The percentages against this book burning was 73 against. 27 for. I think they saw this and are trying to fix that. They'll succeed to a certain extent. But, in some respects, it's too late.
They are losing some of their base. The moderates within their base. Bout damn time.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
Look for the rest to all fall VERY quickly into line behind him. Then, of course, they'll all claim that they ALWAYS support the troops, etc and CNN will give them full coverage. You can see it coming. Hopefully the whole Koran thing will just go quietly; it's likely to be a busy 9/11 anyway.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
and right wingers in general staying home but I have to say they seem awfully committed or should be. If the media keeps playing this meme of a Republican landslide it could well backfire. The "I've got better things to do with my time than join a landslide crowd" can be good for a couple of points at least.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
And the 50 state strategy when you need it? FWIW, if there's one thing to be counted on, it's the MSM following the same old "conventional wisdom" of the minority party making gains in the off year elections, but this time there is such a mindless extrapolation of this it makes me feel like I'm hearing how great Brawndo is in the film Idiocracy, because it has electrolytes, even though when pressed no one knows what electrolytes are or in what context they're useful. When asked, all we get at most is the rote answer that the voters are angry. Well, what the hell are they angry about (the economy, stupid) and then next, why would they vote for the party who's policies created this mess be placed back in office so the same crap can be implemented again?
or, horror of horrors, vote Rethug, just read this from the New York Times:
Republicans are within reach of gaining control of eight or more chambers in statehouses around the country this fall, according to interviews with Republicans, Democrats and independent political analysts. That would give Republicans the power to draw more Congressional districts in their favor, since the expected gains come just as many legislatures will play a major role in the once-a-decade process of redrawing the boundaries of those districts.
Redistricting, it has often been said, turns the traditional definition of democracy on its head: rather than allowing voters to choose their leaders, it allows leaders to choose their voters.
The new districts are supposed to reflect the population shifts measured by the census. In practice, though, officials in both parties often try to gerrymander districts to help themselves and their parties win more elections.
The negative consequences of a Republican Congress are countless, but don't think that such a result quickly would be reversed. Newly gerrymandered districts could keep many Republicans safe for a decade or more.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
I don't know what to make of these wild poll fluctuations.
I don't know what to make of these wild poll fluctuations.
That's what she said last nite.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Don't get me started...
Vote Democrat. Just imagine the outrages the thugs have in the planning stage and ask yourself, will Obama veto anything? Anything from a Republican? Anything at all?
No. He wouldn't veto a law that made it a capital crime to be Barack Obama. Not to save his life.
Isn't it time to put silliness aside, and the wounded pride of not being directly pampered by those who govern?
Look at the overall agenda of the two parties. There is a difference. A considerable difference.
And it is clearly the Democrats who are the only ones even minimally looking out for the people.
MyMy
It's not about being pampered by those who govern, it's about being IGNORED by those who govern. There have been **NO** progressive reforms so far. The much touted "victories" are basic, middle-of-the-road, center-right Democratic principles that shouldn't even be an issue for a real Democratic candidate. They should be a given, not something to be fawned over.
Frankly, I'm tired of being minimally looked out for, I want somebody who genuinely cares for the middle class. If I have to vote outside the party to find it, so be it.
If the Dems lose the majority (which I honestly doubt will happen, despite the media narrative), so be it. All Obama is doing now is providing cover for the Repubs who can now say this colossal f*ckup we're now living through is all his fault, not those of the Repubs and DLC Dems who got us here. LET the Repubs take over. Let THEM rightfully be acknowledged as the authors of this collapse. Yeah, it'll suck, but the end will be worth it when the Reps are finally banished to Siberia for their crimes against this country.
it will be worth it for those already suffering and those that are close to losing their homes or jobs?
They do not recognize their failures, no matter how obvious the evidence. Republican voters will not believe the damage is caused by their faith. They will believe for the next three hundred years that every problem is the black man's fault.
Their policies will render the country a smoking, uninhabitable wasteland, and they are eager for the transition.
They'll flog this story-line for what it's worth and then come out with another one about a huge comeback by the Dems or the GOP ripping defeat out of the jaws of victory. They have to have something to tout even if its utter nonsense. Just listen to the daily report of the Dow closing: they always have some reason for whatever happened—even when the result is and insignificant change.
Lets face it, these guys like to hear themselves "talk".
or, horror of horrors, vote Rethug, just read this from the New York Times:
Republicans are within reach of gaining control of eight or more chambers in statehouses around the country this fall, according to interviews with Republicans, Democrats and independent political analysts. That would give Republicans the power to draw more Congressional districts in their favor, since the expected gains come just as many legislatures will play a major role in the once-a-decade process of redrawing the boundaries of those districts.
Redistricting, it has often been said, turns the traditional definition of democracy on its head: rather than allowing voters to choose their leaders, it allows leaders to choose their voters.
The new districts are supposed to reflect the population shifts measured by the census. In practice, though, officials in both parties often try to gerrymander districts to help themselves and their parties win more elections.
The negative consequences of a Republican Congress are countless, but don't think that such a result quickly would be reversed. Newly gerrymandered districts could keep many Republicans safe for a decade or more.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
And if there's a clever way to engineer the next election, the Republicans know all about it, and the Democrats wouldn't deign to have the knowledge, never mind use it.
The Tan Man is on TV EVERY DAY. Mitch McConnell is on Meet the Press.
Where the FUCK is that wrinkled up old lavatory attendant, Harry Reid and the cleaning lady, Nancy Pelosi?
These are OUR representatives? They are so weak and weakened...they won't even show their faces to the American People. These are the people we turn to for leadership on OUR side? These are the assclowns that we're supposed to support?
And then they have the BALLS to have emails sent out...bearing their names...holding out their tin cups for money.
Puleeeeease.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
the MSM is simply fulfilling their role as propagandists. It is purposely self perpetuating. It is a charade intended to keep the electorate entertained, to keep their attention diverted, while the conservative power brokers work behind the scenes to supress votes. We are the minority here and elsewhere on the blogosphere. But we will not be ignored. Just keep fighting the good fight.
"Someday somebody related to some of these sufferers, these victims, these collaterally damaged souls, may try to kill you. And I have to tell you, I think you’ll have it coming." - Christopher Cooper
I'm not writing this election cycle off. Now that the time is coming for the elections, momentum can just as easily swing back to the Democrats. Once people start thinking about it a little bit the Tea Party/Republican party won't look so good.
The enthusiasm gap Democrats have to realize that the great victories of 2008 are not things you can just win and walk away from. Like a car, a house, a family, you have to stick with them, maintain them and take care of them. In the end they are rewarding and they pay off.
Or the media would like. Why take your shots against the Repubs when the general public has the attention span of a 3 yr old ? I think you'll see the Dems gradually ramping up their offense. I mean, the Repubs have nothing and McConnel and Boner et al are a source of never ending absurdities. Obama needs to get out the youth vote again and the minorities. Especially in the districts where the split is even. The Republicans reasoning and especially that of the T baggers is so laughable that it should be easier than in the past when their was not as much of a clear cut difference between a nut and a caring human. This whole thing just disgusts me and I'm having trouble being coherent myself.
# 1. People who are part of a party's base do not get stabbed front or back.
# 2. People who feel they have been stabbed in the back were not part of a party's base.
# 3. People who feel it necessary to invoke nasty names and other forms of invective for
others in their party are not part of the party's base.
#4. People who long for a third party in a two party system are not only not part of their party's base,
they are in a minority faction.
#5. People who disparage commentary from Canadian's are often potty based.
"Folks, this is not your father's Republican Party."
Joe Biden
I'm an anarchist. Rules don't apply to me.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Ohm you said anarchist. Thought you said antichrist.
"Folks, this is not your father's Republican Party."
Joe Biden
Even if you're angry at the Democrats you're probably even more infuriated with Republicans. I'm personally looking forward to punching them in the face at the polls. I'm hoping that all Dems get off their ass's, get out there and crush them. Imagnine Boner and McConnel on tv the day after, looking dazed and confused. And the teabaggers crying and enraged at their miserable losses! I'm in. Who's with me?
than most cable commentary chicas but since she doesn't do anything for Tweety there must be something funny going on. Think she intimidates him like the nuns must have in fifth grade?
"Folks, this is not your father's Republican Party."
Joe Biden
Not only is Gallup's generic ballot poll a tie, but Gallup also shows the GOP's Job Approval rating lower than that of the Dems.
September 8, 2010
http://www.gallup.com/poll/142898/Job-Approva...
[[PRINCETON, NJ -- Americans' frustration with Congress is directed at both sides of the aisle -- with job approval ratings of 33% for the Democrats in Congress and 32% for the Republicans in Congress.]]
After 20 months of doing nothing but campaigning against Dems while the Dems have been busy doing all the heavy lifting and shouldering all the political risk, the Repugs have barely squeaked out a clear and consistent advantage in the polls beyond an ordinary Margin of Error, still falling behind Dems on many important factors.
If Boehner and McConnell win the gavels this November, it won't be because a majority of Americans rejected what the Dems were doing and embraced the economic disasters the Repugs want to repeat. It will be because we didn't get off our butts and VOTE for Dems when we should have.
http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_kswp29urGP1...
"Folks, this is not your father's Republican Party."
Joe Biden
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