Giuliani Tries to Clarify His Remarks on GMA and is Still Getting His Facts Wrong
Rudy Giuliani came on The Situation Room to attempt to clarify his remarks on Good Morning America and still has his facts wrong. John's right. The media needs to give this liar a time out. Rudy now wants us to believe that he meant to say we weren't attacked since Sept. 11th on George Bush's watch. When asked about the anthrax attacks, Giuliani claims that wasn't a terrorist attack because the FBI didn't ever figure out who did it, and it "was not done in the name of Islamic terrorism".
Of course Blitzer didn't point out how utterly ridiculous that statement is, or some of the other domestic terrorist attacks that happened on Bush's watch as well, so he didn't do much better than George Stephanopoulos' bit of stenography on Good Morning America.
Media Matters reminds us of some of the terrorist attacks that happened on George Bush's watch. It seems Rudy Giuliani has joined the ranks of Dana Perino and Mary Matalin with hoping that Americans have very short memory spans, and don't know how to use the Google.
For more go check out this most excellent set of graphs put together by Bob Cesca--Terrorist Attacks and Presidents. He pretty well blows out of the water this latest Republican talking point that George Bush kept us safe from terrorists. Nice work Bob.
RUDY GIULIANI: Wolf, you want to know if I forget about September 11th?
BLITZER: I'm sure you didn't.
GIULIANI: No. No.
BLITZER: But you did say this on...
GIULIANI: I...
BLITZER: ..."Good Morning America." I'll play the little clip and then you'll explain what you had in mind.
GIULIANI: Yes. I know. This is so silly. But go ahead.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP FROM "GOOD MORNING AMERICA," COURTESY ABC)
GIULIANI: What he should be doing is following the right things that Bush did. One of the right things he did was treat it was a war on terror. We had no domestic attacks under Bush. We've had one under Obama.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BLITZER: All right. As you know, the blogosphere is going crazy with that, the comment, we had no domestic attacks under Bush.
All right, you remember at least one, don't you?
GIULIANI: No, here -- here's what I usually say when I said that -- and I did not put that -- those words in. I said -- I usually say we had no domestic attacks, no major domestic attack under President Bush since September 11th. And the reason I say it is on September 11th and the days after September 11th, I received many briefings, many warnings, as the mayor of New York, that we were going to be attacked again, that we were going to be attacked frequently.
And I think many people are surprised, even those people who hate President Bush -- I think many people were surprised that we didn't have those major attacks and that at least some of the things that President Bush was warning was helping in making certain that we didn't have any kind of major terrorist attack.
I did omit the words "since September 11th." I apologize for that. I should have put it in. I do remember September 11th. In fact, Wolf, I remember it every single day and usually frequently during the day.
BLITZER: I know you do.
And then you said this, though, and it needs some clarification. "We've had one under Obama," meaning a terrorist attack.
What -- what specific -- which specifically are you...
GIULIANI: I would...
BLITZER: ...which attack are you referring to?
GIULIANI: I would consider the one -- well, I mean the -- the -- the attack on Christmas Day was an attempted attack. I was talking about Fort Hood. Fort Hood was clearly an Islamic terrorist attack. The man who was shooting off the guns and killing those people was yelling out ara -- Islamic phrases when he was doing it -- Allah Akbar and things like that. He was clearly under the influence of Islamic terrorism.
And I think one of the problems here is that the president defines the war on terror -- which he finally called the war on terror yesterday. But he defines it too narrowly, because he talks about it as a war on Al Qaeda.
Unfortunately, there's a lot more than al Qaeda that's at war with us. There are other Islamic terrorist groups, loosely aligned, and then there are -- there are people here in the United States that are influenced by Islamic terrorists who -- who attack us in the name of Islamic terrorism.
And I would say the one -- the Fort Hood attack was probably the clearest example of that, although, you know, there might be others that we just don't know about.
BLITZER: There -- there was at least one terror attack on U.S. Soil that happened after 9/11. I'm referring to the anthrax attacks in New York and in elsewhere. What that a terror attack, do you believe?
GIULIANI: Well, as far as I know, the FBI has never been able to figure out who did it and has never designated it as a terror attack. I mean, I lived through that. I -- there was...
BLITZER: But whoever was trying to do it was trying to terrorize a lot of people.
GIULIANI: Yes, but that was not done in the name -- as far as we know, that was not done in the name of Islamic terrorism any more than, you know, serial killers who...
BLITZER: Right. It could have been a domestic terror attack, too, and we don't know, as you correctly point out, who was responsible...
GIULIANI: That's right. So you're -- so...
BLITZER: ...for that anthrax attack.
GIULIANI: ...so you can't -- you can't describe something as a terrorist attack if it hasn't been investigated and there's no -- no proof. And the best thinking on the part of the FBI is that it wasn't involved with Islamic terrorism.
But, again, that's pretty -- we're on pretty shaky grounds there because they've never been able to solve that.
BLITZER: And you -- you don't have any inside information on who was responsible?
Who do you believe was responsible -- because I know it happened in New York. We remembered what happened...
GIULIANI: Gee, Wolf, it not only happened, there was -- there was anthrax found in the office right next to mine. There was attack on city hall as well as on the major networks and Governor Pataki's office. I mean, I as directly involved in that.
At the time -- at the time, I thought it was probably all connected to -- to the terrorism that was attacking us. In retrospect, it seems to me, from what I know of it, that it wasn't. But, again, that's unresolved and it was be irresponsible to come to a conclusion about it.
BLITZER: So at -- at this point, given what you're -- what you're saying in terms of terror attacks since 9/11, there have been no -- no terror attacks since 9/11 under President Bush, but one terror attack, Fort Hood, under President Obama...
GIULIANI: Islamic...
BLITZER: ...President Obama. Islamic terror attacks...
GIULIANI: Islamic terror attacks.
BLITZER: Is that what you're saying, zero to one, in effect?
GIULIANI: Correct. And the o -- the only reason I point that out is that the -- the president himself has finally now come to the conclusion that he can say war on terror. I wish he would also describe it as Islamic terrorism so that we clearly define our enemy. And I wish he would follow through on our being at war with -- with Islamic terrorism.
For example, what's going on right now in Detroit is a perfect example of the administration not recognizing we're at war. If we were at war, this man would be in a military tribunal.
BLITZER: All right...
GIULIANI: In fact, we would still be questioning him. The administration cut his question off after 30 hours. I think one of the spokespersons for the administration -- maybe it was Gibbs, maybe someone else -- said that they were actually getting actionable intelligence from him.
Well, why in God's name would you cut up an interview when you're getting actionable intelligence from a man who was just about ready to blow up an airplane when you don't have to?
You could be questioning this guy for three weeks, four weeks, five weeks, which is usually what you have to do with one of these people to really get at the truth and to really get all the information out of them about possible other attacks.
BLITZER: Because you -- yes, I was going to say...
GIULIANI: ...the president described it...
BLITZER: ...just to be precise on this war on terror phrase, because it's a sensitive issue, I know sensitive with you -- what I heard him say yesterday, that the U.S. Is in a war against al Qaeda. I didn't specifically hear him say...
GIULIANI: Right.
BLITZER: ...the U.S. It at war against terrorism.
GIULIANI: He did. He described it as a war against al Qaeda, which is much too narrow a way to describe it, because a lot more than al Qaeda is at war with us. There are many terrorist groups that are not connected to al Qaeda or are loosely connected to it that believe they're at war with us. Then we have individuals who are inspired by Islamic terrorism to attack us.
Abdulmutallab, who was arraigned today, wasn't even charged, I don't believe, with terrorism. But most importantly, he was -- they -- they prematurely interrupted his being interviewed in order to try him in a civilian court. If we are at war with al Qaeda and this guy apparently seems to have been influenced by al Qaeda, why would we try him as if he committed a domestic crime? BLITZER: All right, well, you know the...
GIULIANI: It doesn't make sense to me.
BLITZER: But there -- so you basically would agree that the Bush administration, in going after Richard Reed, the shoe bomber, in a civilian court, they made a blunder at that time, as well, because basically the same procedures they used against Richard Reed, they're using against Abdulmutallab right now.
GIULIANI: I don't -- I don't believe the Bush administration made all the right decisions. I don't think they do. I'll give you another example. I think the Bush administration made mistakes by returning people to Yemen. The -- the Obama administration would be well advised not to follow that precedent. I mean, returning people to Yemen, I believe it's something like one out of five people that we've sent from Guantanamo has returned to terrorist acts.
Whatever your position was on Guantanamo before, fact -- history now tells us that's terribly a irresponsible...
BLITZER: All right...
GIULIANI: ...thing to do. But the Obama administration seems to want to send these people, instead of to Yemen, to Illinois. Now, that doesn't make sense either. Maybe he's wrong about Guantanamo and he should reverse himself on it.
BLITZER: All right. We'll -- we'll talk about that. We have a lot more to pick up.
And Mr. -- Mr. Mayor, if you have a few moments, stick around.
GIULIANI: I do.




Every chance to promote more war, he takes it. Against Al Qaeda, not big enough, against Terror, no no, too big, we are not at war against the terrorists who blow up Women's Clinics, just against the Muslims, against 'Islamic Terrorism'...
And now, being "influenced" by 'Islamic extremism' is the same as belonging to Al Qaeda. By this logic (and this tells a lot about how RG-9/11 perceives, wants us to perceive, Islam and Muslims in general), any act of violence committed by a Muslim should be considered an act of terrorism.
If RG-9/11s kid was having conflicts little classmate who happened to be Muslim, I suppose a military tribunal would be in order then, too...
What is the difference between "Islamic terrorism" and the terrorism of whoever sent the anthrax letters or terrorized abortion providers? Is Giuliani saying it's not terrorism if you terrorize Americans you disagree with politically, but you're not Muslim? Giuliani's attempting to mold the dialogue is nauseating. And did Blitzer even mention the shoe bomber, which also occurred under Bush's watch? I plan to do the same with Stephanopoulos, which is to complain to CNN about Blitzer's inadequate questioning.
from Rufus T. Firefly
"I can't keep doing this on my own with these...people."
Yep -- So I guess as long as you are not a Muslim, feel free to go-to-town on his family...
Quite frankly his tap dance was appalling and the journalism worse. He should have been publicly chastised for that.
Why are we listening to this fool?
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness and it is killing America!
"In fact, Wolf, I remember it every single day and usually frequently during the day."
No wonder his eyesight is failing. Didn't Father Martuccio warn him about this as a lad?
"In fact, Wolf, I remember it every single day and usually frequently during the day."
No wonder his eyesight is failing. Didn't Father Martuccio warn him about this as a lad?
They're not hoping Americans have short memories, they think they're dumb. They know conservatives are stupid and will believe anything they say and they're hoping for the same from the rest of the population.
is intended to be a factual statement
With 14% of the population being functionally illiterate and another 45% having low levels (4th grade or lower) of literacy it's not too far fetched to figure that they also are lacking in critical thinking skills as well.
Given that the "big lie" technique is almost guaranteed to work as long as it can be quickly pushed on as many outlets as possible.
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."
George Carlin (1937 - 2008)
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Is there really any such word as stupider?
It's like a dead person being compared to another dead person as being deader.
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http://www.thefreedictionary.com/stupider
please show a link where 14% of Americans are functionally illiterate. And I assume you mean either adults or 15+ years of age.
...here.
But if you sink your teeth into it:
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
And that caveat you mentioned isn't really all that much of a caveat given that the US is an English speaking country where the vast majority of any signs, instructions, directions, services and broadcasting is in English. If I went to Denmark right now I'd be functionally illiterate as well by their standards, the same would go for you I suspect.
The 99% literacy as reported by the UN is because the US has refused to report so it is assigned a default 99% as it is considered an advanced industrialized nation.
This is something the UN really needs to rethink in future reports.
.. but you'd be wrong.
Andy already cited the source I used.
And yes, it is adult illiteracy.
Not a flattering statistic is it?
if his lisp started when he used to go visit his papa in Sing Sing
Rudy seems to be forgetting the shoe-bomber too.
But then again - who is counting.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
While the shoe bomber was also on an international Christmas day flight from Europe bound directly to the United States, Reid (aka Abdel Raheem) was subdued by his fellow passengers back in 2001 on American Airlines flight 63, while they only about 90 minutes out of Paris, over international waters and still several hours away from landing at Boston to which the plane was diverted.
http://archives.CNN.com/2001/US/12/23/plane.i...
Man on jet had explosive in sneakers, feds say / Dec 25, 2001
How come they never talk about republican economic terrorism? Most americans are more scared of that than Al Queda.
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
I can't believe anything this jackass says, nor should ANYONE. Rudy has continued to push the "we were attacked because of our freedoms" bullshit, even accusing those who tell the TRUTH of saying we "invited 9/11"
This sad and pathetic attempt to politicize made up bullshit diminishes the sacrifice of all the lives that were lost. It eliminates every last ounce of good you did in those days Guiliani. Disgusting. May you and your cronies rot in the same hell as those who flew the planes.
"No, here -- here's what I usually say when I said that -- and I did not put that -- those words in. I said -- I usually say.."
What I USUALLY say???
What about what you DID say?
GIULIANI: "Well, as far as I know, the FBI has never been able to figure out who did it and has never designated it as a terror attack."
SOooo, if nobody claims responsibility then it's not a terror attack.
These clowns have entered the territory of parody.
This is not a news show, this is a joke....and a national disgrace.
its not a terror attack. If that is so, then 9/11 cannot be classified as a terror attack. As I recall, no one made a claim of responsibility after the attack.
In fact, when US authorities initially blamed Osama bin Laden and Al Qaida, they denied any involvement in a statement that was broadcast over Al Jazeera.
I've always wondered about that.
One thing they have in common?
They both used 9-11 for their own profit, politically and financially.
Traitors.
The have that in common with Al Qaeda as well.
and moreover, and even more obviously, the Bush clan and the bin Laden clan also shared many financial interests, and apparently, each has prospered as a result of the wars now being fought in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I'm sure that extending the wars to Yemen and Somalia will fatten their bottom lines even further.
Blitzer_ All right.
Giuliani_ gibberish.
Blitzer_ All right.
Giuliani_ gibberish.
Blitzer_ Mr Mayor, can you stick around?
Giuliani_ Sure Wolf.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
So, if the guy there had been screaming out The Lord's Prayer and Hail Mary's while shooting, then it's not terrorism? or a Jewish equivalent? Etc.
I think they're making this distinction because they feel at some point a domestic right-wing-type is going to do something bad, and that gives them room to say they (their own) are not terrorists.
Islam bad, Christianity good.
Bullshit.
This is also an inverse official government definition of what constitutes a religion.
I guess the English never considered the IRA as terrorists since because they were Catholics they were Christians...sort of...
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Of course I'm sure the folks in the Republic of Ireland return the favor every year when the Orangemen parade around the Drogheda area.
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Maybe he learned a lesson from the Stephaopoulos fiasco. I'm disappointed that he didn't bring up any of the number of terrorist and Islamic terrorist attacks that happened post 9/11/2001 and prior to 1/20/2009 but he did at least not let him get away with telling the lie that there were none after the big one on September 11th.
Barack Obama: Change we can only imagine
it's all appearances. blitzer will let the next guy blather on as well. first, he'll bring out a dem to attack so he can appear 'balanced'.
Some stuff you can't make up!
remember that the media will not let this lying hack die a political death. they will bring him back again and again and they will not challenge his lies. regardless of the truth, he is a republican and will always have a seat in front of a mic. I can't wait for (R)udy to get that twitter account.
Some stuff you can't make up!
how many first responders died because of rudy g's 'executive' decisions?? can we go to that clip???
He was busy those days. Trying to get his BFF the job of Chief of DHS. Kerick. oops.
I remember when they trailed him out to the podium.
I thought to myself, look at this guy. He's a damn thug.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
Him?
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/bastard/giul...
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got more hits then any other story. Frankly I could care less about the moron.
His Karma is going to catch up, over run him and destroy him anyway at some point.
...practically hear Blitzer's contempt when he says 'the blogoshpere' is upset about Mr. 9/11's historical re-writes, as if 'they' were the only ones who could be. If Ft. Hood was terror, then so were VA Tech, The Holocaust Museum, Dr. Tiller, Shauna Forde, just to name a few. Of course, we'll just keep letting him spout off about how Obama lets terrorists attack, and Bush never did, and any challenge will come in the form of, "well, those bloggers are whining..."
these shills and apologists and those above them in charge of things will lose their vested legitimacy in a flash at some point, and the institutions they command will become irrelevant overnight . . we're that close.
the left side blogoshere are the only alert and knowledgeable citizens out there...
hence the disdain from most quarters...
We can't even get a coffee and donut for a quarter anymore.
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for the "blogosphere" is essentially a reflection of elite contempt for democracy.
These media bobbleheads, such as Blitzer, are paid huge amounts of money, and so they identify with their corporate bosses rather than with the hoi poloi.
In their positions as media moderators, they define and confine the limits of the debate on public issues to ensure that no subversive ideas enter into the public's collective mind.
What with all the New Yahker's pretensions to sophistication, how exactly did this mater futuerer get elected?
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... because compared to Mayor Dinkins he was a genius.
Much the same way a center right conservative like Obama appears to be a centrist liberal when compared to the likes of Shrub and Ghouliani.
could not be contained. Murdock's media was just getting started. The PBA was working it's racist schpiel with public demonstrations outside of city hall. the black community was being demonized because of a single murder and Rudy played it all up.
many NYers were quite happy for the city to be "white again". That quote was in a story in the NYDaillyNews.
Dinkins was a highly intelligent man whj tried to bring civility to NY and was greeted with hatred and derision. google 'bensonhurst' and 'bay ridge' to see some of the backlash inspired by the election of NY's 1st black mayor.
Some stuff you can't make up!
The cities infrastructure (it's bridges and roads) were collapsing under Dinkin's stewardship. He was a crap mayor.
and it's easy to revise history. the bridges you refer to are under state stewardship. If you're referring to the Brooklyn and williamsburg bridges, Dinkins either started or continued the programs to good repair If you're referring to potholes, try again. Dinkins even fixed up much of the park system, bringing local employment to every community in NYC.
stop making shit up.
Some stuff you can't make up!
For 8 years I lived there, in Manhattan at 82nd and Amsterdam, in Williamsburg on Cumberland St. and out in Rockaway Beach on Beach 92nd.
I wouldn't call the fact that the Williamsburg Bridge required a complete re-deck as having kept it in good shape. That wasn't pothole repair, that was a complete structural re-decking including replacing the collapsing pedestrian walkways. You would have known that if you actually lived there as you are implying.
Nor would I have called the giant 2 foot wide, 10 foot long strips of paint and the underlying rust that accompanied it that hung from the Manhattan Bridge (footing to footing, top to road deck) for 7 years good maintenance either.
Those bridges didn't even start getting repaired until 1998, long after Dinkins was gone. And given that it took at least 3 years of work to determine what needed to be done and come up with a plan and budget to do it that puts the beginning of the retrofits at around 1995.
Hell while we are at it how about all those stripped cars over around Ave A and 2nd Ave between 2nd St and 7th St? Those didn't go away until Dinkins was tossed out. In fact that neighborhood was a freaking mess until '95. Dinkins was fixing up the parks, really? Because while he was mayor Thompkins Sq Park was a real shite hole. Granted they did shut it down for a bit to run off the homeless. You know, humanitarian that he is.
But hey, Dinkins was doing a GREAT job right?
Seemed the whole city started being maintained after that clown was gone.
Making shit up is not what I do, but perhaps it is your purview?
I wonder, have you ever lived there? You don't sound like it.
How much time do you suppose the 24/7 teevee "news" networks would fill if they actually reported "facts"? I'm thinking 7 minutes per hour, tops.
If we could only get a generator on Edward R. Murrow's grave we could solve the energy crisis...
I mean, some people are saying, if we could only get a generator on Edward R. Murrow's grave we could solve the energy crisis.
If the republicans fault Obama for the FAILED terrorist attack on Christmas Day, which resulted in the loss of no lives, because it happened while he was in office, does that mean the republican party is officially holding boosh responsible for 9-11 and the loss of 3,000 lives?
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And if you fault someone for a failed attempt at terrorism, does that mean you wanted the terrorists to succeed?
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they certainly wanted some terrrrrist to succeed. then they can renew the patriot act with new, more draconian statutes. and the bush/cheney moles in the CIA, FBI and DOJ will continue to do their real masters' bidding. that's a certainty.
Some stuff you can't make up!
I think that Rudy should be put on TV every day all the time. Not given a time out. He is the gift that keeps on giving. Every show I watched last night fried him over the coals for what he was saying.
Since it was julianna's bailiwick that was attacked, did he have any responsibilities in the prevention or the aftermath?
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Let Rudy run his freakin' mouth as much as he wants... Put him on Countdown or Rachel Maddow's show and let him jabber away.
Why? Because sooner or later this arrogant, narcissistic piece of crap will say something that will clearly demonstrate the part he and other Repuke, neo-con, Bushistas played in implementing the fiasco that was 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, 9/11..........
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
"I was talking about Fort Hood. Fort Hood was clearly an Islamic terrorist attack. The man who was shooting off the guns and killing those people was yelling out ara -- Islamic phrases when he was doing it -- Allah Akbar and things like that. He was clearly under the influence of Islamic terrorism."
Is that a tacit admission from a "prominent" republican that there is such a thing as a hate crime?
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Not only the lying and distortion, but the smug arrogance with which he spews them. And from the man whose presidential campaign was 'A noun, a verb, 9/11' and who refused to upgrade the emergency response system after the 1st attack on the towers AND put the communication center in them against all advice (anyone want to bet he collected some $$ there?)
Yes this is so silly. What Mr.9/11 should have said is "OK Wolf I just flat out lied. I omitted the fact that I'm talking complete utter
Bulls**t here. I'm a moron. You know it, I know it, but I don't think the Teabaggers know it. So don't blow my cover OK Wolf"?
He says he remembers the day. But can't seem to remember what happened on that day. And who the President was on that day. Very Reaganeque of him if you ask me.
The Republican party is just a big, monied group of liars. They are trying as hard as the can to re-write history. Before you know it they will be saying 9/11 was Jimmy Carters fault. The msm is complicit in this because they never challenge the lies till days after their ridiculous statements are broadcast. The msms is a pathetic group of kissass fools who seem to be afraid to call them out. RG fails to realize that most of us know he is full of sh!t, but he just keeps lying. If you repeat a lie enough times, it will become the truth.
We had plenty of terror attacks under bush, yet you will never hear this mentioned unless its a Dem with a spine. Terrorist attacks that are homegrown are still terrorist attacks. The rethugs are trying to preserve the bush/cheney legacy and will do and say anything to protect that. All the rethugs care about is getting their power back. If that happens we will be in for more of the same rich friends/corporate protections and tax cuts.
over at Newhounds said "polishing Bush's Legacy Turd is a full time job".....
We know Giuliani lied to the little boy on Gummorning Merca. Now some grownups called him on it, but you know Giuliani is a mean man, and he'll do it again to some other little boys and girls. And they'll get all confused, like Old Lady Blitzer, and they won't mention how America was attacked several times by terrorists AFTER 9/11, which all George Bush's fault because he pretended there was no threat from terrorists.
And then we all had to watch him do a golf swing, which wasn't that good either.
shorter Rudy: acts of terrorism only qualify as terrorism if they are perpetrated by Muslims.
The corollary, via Fox news pundits is that otherwise merely criminal acts or acts of mental defect, when perpetrated by Muslims, can be counted as acts of terrorism.
All is grist to the right wing hate mills.
With the way Giuliani supports the "terrorist" attack issue, and, since he is in the "security business", and, since he is Italian, we should have some conservative pass a bill "deporting all Italians and Saudi Arabians". That'll get rid of the domestic terrorism and we don't have to listen to this mook anymore. He's pathetic!
Aren't all Italians "mafia"? All Italians like the Sopranos. All Italians and Saudi Arabians like the movie: The Godfather.
... since Pearl Harbor doesn't count.
Apart from that, Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?
I was watching Nova last Tuesday, and they're discovering that there were Japanese mini-subs in the area, the first of their kind.
They're trying to determine if any of the destruction was due to torpedoes. They're pretty sure some were fired, but not how many, or if they were effectual.
Apparently the government knew about their existence soon afterwards, but classified the information.
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This draft dodging Chickenhawk used his influence with a judge to avoid the draft. The he got a job - prosecuting draft dodgers. Shit - it boggles the mind. Then, he has the audacity to rah, rah every fucking war that has come along, including the one he avoided serving in. What an asshole. He gives hypocrites a bad name.
That's what Republicans do best (besides running the country into the ground) cheerlead wars for other people to fight.
http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html
Why is Count 9ui11ani criticizing the president during time of war?
Traitor!!!
"9/11 was a joke" ~ Rudy Giuliani.
Countdown - Lawrence O'Donnell blisters Rudy Giuliani for his terror-mongering lies
O'Donnell lists NUMEROUS terrorist attacks, many by ISLAMISTS, that occurred AFTER 9-11 but DURING the Bush administration.
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
"BLITZER: All right. As you know, the blogosphere is going crazy with that, the comment, we had no domestic attacks under Bush."
Translation:
Blitzer: "You know, Rudy, I wouldn't even bother asking you about this but, since it's all over the internet, I have to otherwise I look like I'm not doing my job. You know how it is."
If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.
George Carlin
makes one wonder just how far in this idiot can stick his foot.....
on the other hand...
LOVE O'Donnell...and he's right, if he breaks in to straighten out someone who is being stupid, he gets criticized for it...however, I would NOT want to be on O'Donnell's 'bad side', let me tell ya.....
Or his head?
http://www.enotes.com/best-poe-text/never-bet...
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two things
1. Rudy is a absolute joke.
2. Woof needs to go.
Bruce C Johnson
Giuliani seems to forget that Christianity Judaism have a long, long, bloody history of murder, slavery, and other atrocities.
How they differ from Islam is that Christianity was FORCED to acknowledge that they were living in modern times and had to give up, or deny, many of their past wrong doings. Many little boys(although not all) were no doubt spared many horrors due to this fact.
Islam hasn't been dragged into the 21st century yet. Hell, it's not even in the 19th century. Islam is strictly a system of thought straight out of ancient times that hasn't even attempted to get past the point of fear, hate, and slavery (yes, many groups of Islam STILL capture, and keep slaves).
I know, I know, it doesn't sound politically correct, but facts are facts. We're talking about two evils here, one is worse than the other. Islam is a truly dangerous religion, but most of Christianity lags behind when it comes to disgusting behavior because they've been forced to grow up a bit... However, if christian fundamentalists were to have their way, all of Christianity would be just as bad as the Islamic fundamentalists.
Everyone needs to remember that.
By the way, he also seems to forget the fact that we've had Christian Terrorism under Bush. Remember the religious nuts going on shooting sprees in churches a while back?
Giuliani is evil slime. He represents the stupid, amoral, and the religious nuts who want someone to hate.
He's filth, and he knows it.
GIULIANI:" ...so you can't -- you can't describe something as a terrorist attack if it hasn't been investigated and there's no -- no proof."
So that fact that there was an utter failure to stop said attack --on Bush's watch--means nothing because it wasn't labeled as "terrorist"?
I'm getting confused.Calling things "terrorist" will help in fighting it,but the stuff you miss isn't necessarily "terrorist" if it can't be labeled as such.
You're a pip Julie Annie.
"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "
-Jack Handy
Keep talking Rudy. Each time you open that big mouth you dig a deeper hole. Maybe he should just go shopping for a new dress.
pennlady
Honest to God...does this buffoon hear himself?
I wonder WHY the released prisoners from Guantanimo return to terrorism against this country? Holy shit Einstein. You hold me prisoner without charges for some 8 years, and you can damn sure bet I'll be your new enemy, if I wasn't already.
What a total clown. WHO CARES what this worthless piece of shit has to say. He's so full of contradictions and out and out bull shit...he can't even keep track of his story.
Go to hell, you fool!
If the Republican knew when to shut his mouth, we wouldn't even know who he was.
This guy couldn't sell me a car!
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
See the spittle fly, yo!!
RG is not the only one. The MSM lets these guys prattle on with their BS. I almost blame them more.
(in general, shortened) Wolf... mmm, mmhmm, mmm, right, mmhmm...
far left loon >.<
And people wonder why reporters don't get any respect any more. Even things they cover daily the talking heads only seem to know what the TelePrompTer or their producer feeds them. George & Blitzer didn't question Mr 911's statements because it wasn't part of the script. At this point a monkey could do their jobs and maybe even better.
Who would do a better job hosting JulieAnnie.....hmmm....
I would have to say the monkey because it's animal instinct would make it more effective in reading JulieAnnie's true character.....
The chimp would probably fling it feces at Rudy.
Rudy taking the lead. And the 2016 Olympics want him to head their security? Will his buddy, past nominee for HomeLand Security be out of jail by then to help him run the Olympics security?
Karl Rove runs his mouth criticizing the CounterTerrorismCenter, until the next day he remembers its Director is Bush holdover, then flip flops.
Tom Ridge defends Napolitano against right wing wacko criticism.
Dick Lugar rebukes Cheney criticism of Obama.
Throw in the bizarre Steele, little monkey Lynn Cheney, and the rest of the fools, and my God, we have the makings of another Second City Comedy Team.
Just a shame, media continues to take these clowns seriously and lets them get away with any old lie. It is all hilarious. And they want to run the country again? Give me a break.
Rudy Gulliani - A.K.A. Water Cooler boy.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
How come he wasn't dressed in drag?
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