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While attacking Rep. Steve Cohen for his truthful statement that the GOP has indeed used the same tactics employed by Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels, Fox's Megyn Kelly argued with former Clinton adviser Richard Socarides that Fox News hasn't ever had any of their hosts invoking Nazi and Holocaust imagery.

Socarides noted adroitly that "on the very network that we're on right now, the leading commenters on this network use this kind of language." Kelly shot back: "It's just not true! ... I don't know if you sit and watch our programming every night, but I watch it every day and you're wrong."

As our friends at Media Matters point out, that's just not true.

They've got a long list of examples and I'll just say, go read their post for some rebuttal to Kelly's nonsense.

Fox's Kelly Absurdly Claims Fox Personalities Do Not Invoke Nazis

Our own Dave Neiwert has a very long list of posts and Glenn Beck invoking the Nazis as well. We've included some of these in the video above.

In fact, as you can see from the video, Beck went on the air later that same day and declared:

BECK: Nazi tactics are progressive tactics first.

Wonder if Kelly was watching. She claimed that she watches Fox's programming and offered that as some sort of proof that her colleagues were telling the truth on the air. All she did is prove that she either doesn't watch her fellow Fox hosts' shows, or she doesn't care that they're as dishonest with their commentary on their programs as she is. I would say the latter is probably the case. Being willing to lie and carry water for Republicans pays pretty well over at Fox and Kelly knows where her bread is buttered.

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JohnnyBravo's picture

Cue The Videotape!

Seriously, Fox thinks we're all idiots. Especially their viewers.


NOBODY 2012

ysbaddaden's picture
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Their viewers think you're an idiot too?


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greatbear's picture

In my experience, Fox viewers are walking examples of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

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MacJr's picture

Now I don't know whether to feel smart or dumb.


Humpty Dumpty was pushed.

Peter G's picture

watch the audition episodes of American Idol. It is amazing how many people who cannot carry a tune are offended by being told they magnificently suck.


Hasa Diga Eebowai

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Al B Tross's picture

when your own ego is so over-inflated with false esteem, that you cannot bear to hear the truth.

"No you really can't sing", or, "no you really don't understand Governance.", the result is the same, them stomping around in a temper tantrum, making threats and wishing for punishment upon their accusers.

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Moi?


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"the trouble with dumb Bastards is that they are to dumb to realize there IS such a thing as being smart."

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bobby rubin jr.'s picture

Here we go again on the "No! You're the nazi!" merry-go-round thanks to this alarming looking dooshbag. Is it too much to ask that there is someone in the party that can keep people on message and not go the
"Goebell's would be proud of you!" route out of convenience or an inability to think strategically on a political level?
Maybe we could spring the Hammer from the pokey and get D-Lay working behind the scenes.
Or ressurect Tip who put the arm on members with a smile and a carrott as opposed to Tom's hammer.
Tuscon gave the Dems a small window to take the high ground and this idiot goes all glen-gary glen-becky.
I gave up on "leadership." But could we at least get some management?
Maybe instead of "No, no no! The gentlemen from Texas is the Nazi!", dude could have said something like "For people that portend to be concerned about the federal deficit, maybe my colleagues could explain the wisdom of making this monster that will eat everyone's children and their american dreams that much bigger by spending such precious funds "fixing the fix."

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Al B Tross's picture

let me get this straight, your opinion is that a Dem whom invokes a legitimate historical reference, is operating under "Godwins law", and undermines their argument??

And , that the only thing wrong is that 6 million + died as a result of Goebbels propaganda, not his technique, nor message??

It is a stretch to divide the technique, and man, from the results of his work.

We have the proof, the historical reference of what unchecked hate-filled propaganda leads to, yes there are other references to be used, but you have to admit that the Nazis were the prototype, and burnt that image into our collective psyche.
I am not a fan of invoking the reference, so how do you suggest we deal with zealots like Ms. Kelly?

pissed off patricia's picture

Perhaps she never watches Fox News Channel. That would speak well for her.


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

...so does that make her a liar for saying she watches every day or a liar for never seeing one of the faux "ugly bags of water" invoke nazi imagery?


Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"

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LeftandLeft's picture

Fox already know that their stupid ass watchers are too dumb, lazy and filled with blinding hatred for Progressives to even give a fuck about the truth.

Must be nice.

Winski's picture

Just another talking fox-bot spewing exactly what Ailes forces them to say and finally zap's them with the Rupe-goo dispersal system and they're never the same...

Don't these people, if you can still call them that, know that EVERYTHING they say in public AND in private is recorded 24 x 7?? Don't they realize they are going to get called on the blatant LIES they try to tell because there isn't enough time in the day to call them on everything they say in general.. Since most of it is ALL sewerage, just the chucks that stick out are reviewed...

Since Megan has a LONG history of fundamental stupidity, this shouldn't surprise anyone.

surfjac's picture

..."ugly bags of water". From a Star Trek-TNG episode. Seems appropriate so if the shoe fits....


Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"

derekthered's picture

as they are Nazi imagery

greatbear's picture

I love it! Fox Newsmodel Megyn Kelly has never seen any Nazi imagery on her channel? All she has to do is scroll down to the video just below her's on this very website. Check out the video of Beck. Right behind him is a Nazi flag, hanging next to his shoulder during his entire rant!

"Glenn Beck uses more swatiskas and footage of the Nuremberg rallies than the History Channel!" - Lewis Black.

Joel's picture

Remember in A Clockwork Orange when our main character was forced to watch violence with his eyes in those clamps.. Would love if Megan and so many others were put in that chair..
We Deceive You Believe !!!

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Ludwig Von.

Of course putting people away in prison and torturing them is a common commentary theme which invokes the.....(edited for civility)


"Folks, this is not your father's Republican Party."
Joe Biden

hepstyle's picture

Comparing liberals to Nazis is one thing, and using Nazi style tactics is another. This article conflates the two. The truth is, Fox does BOTH!

odanny's picture
FOX

Everytime I hear the words "FOX or FOX News" I immediately associate the name with the image of Glenn Beck standing at a chalkboard, waving his arms. It's a traumatic image that I cannot get out of my head, hence, I tend to avoid any mention of the word. I feel better after typing this, its almost cathartic


Radix Omnium Malorum Avaritia

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Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang
Congress' TREASON have no boundaries, so does M$M's brainwashing/sidetracking
Republicans for Voldemort
Government does work, just not for YOU. Government work ONLY on the behalf of the Tycoons
Repeal stupid

Geronimo.'s picture

That would be scary if the Nazi mentality and/or policies ever came back in strength. Those people and practices are EVIL.


"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt

ricky's picture

who called who a Nazi first series. I am fondest of "the reichwingers did it first" line of reasoning myself.
Followed of course by calls to "round up the Republitards who spew such "f**king violence" but of course, only in a gentle way that does not constitute an assault on free speech. And of course the assertion that when one of "our" guys does it, even when it makes us a tad queasy given our past denunciations of these tactics, it was, after all, true.


"Folks, this is not your father's Republican Party."
Joe Biden

Peter G's picture

when you need them? I've always thought the seemingly inevitable Nazi comparisons are an indictment of our educational systems. We need better education in history. There are largely untapped rich veins of human depravity crying out for use as invidious comparisons when describing your opponents. Sure Stalin gets the odd mention but when was the last time Pol Pot or Idi Amin got a comparison credit? They did fine work too. Genghis is probably feeling a little dissed.


Hasa Diga Eebowai

ducatidave's picture

but, I'd still nail 'er

ricky's picture

need but lack.


"Folks, this is not your father's Republican Party."
Joe Biden

MacJr's picture

That you, Chris Mathews?


Humpty Dumpty was pushed.

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Alien_Overlord's picture

or they will SLITHER OUT yet again.

Nerver forget http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_IAN081P8I


Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang
Congress' TREASON have no boundaries, so does M$M's brainwashing/sidetracking
Republicans for Voldemort
Government does work, just not for YOU. Government work ONLY on the behalf of the Tycoons
Repeal stupid

Rich H's picture

and just have all of their pundits wear Nazi uniforms on the set.

West Coast Wade's picture

Why do seemingly intellegent liberal-progressives go on Fox News anyway? What is the point? You don't really think Kelly was hired by Fox News for her knowledge of current events?


West Coast Wade

Alien_Overlord's picture

and go to Fox - it's worth putting a brick wall and crashing them INTO reality. But if you are not WELL prepared and/or a WIMP then you just gonna FAIL, because the IGNORANCE IS STRONG WITH THEM ... too strong.


Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang
Congress' TREASON have no boundaries, so does M$M's brainwashing/sidetracking
Republicans for Voldemort
Government does work, just not for YOU. Government work ONLY on the behalf of the Tycoons
Repeal stupid

....it blows my mind that nazi imagery has creeped into our media culture. I can understand the aryan nation crowd as sick, twisted people who are intolerant bigots but supposedly serious journalists and the people who watch them?? Should they be lumped into the same category: sick twisted intolerant bigots?...It staggers the imagination that all that nazi horror must be dredged up to be thrown at people who are trying to do nothing more or less than protect the rights and lifestyles of the middle and lower economic classes. How a person that does spew nazi imagery manages to look his or her self in the mirror every day. Truly, they are ignorant, classless, tasteless, unintelligent and totally reprehensible.


Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"

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...a documentary.


Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"

David L. Hill's picture

is watch that Lewis Black 'Back in Black' segment where he says that Beck has 'Nazi Tourettes'.

Seriously...that's all you need to know.

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West Coast Wade's picture

the well prepared would not be put on a show hosted by Meghan Kelly. The well prepared would be matched up with O'Reilly or Hannity - so when the well prepared produced facts to back up any statement the host can shout down, talk over, cut to commercial or tape and edit for a later broadcast.


West Coast Wade

ron's picture

the Fox producers and hosts are the ones that pick the subject and have a chance to school up on it and can tell the lies and the guest doesn't have enough information to dispute it.

mymy's picture

Thank heavens Fox is now coming in last in polls of which news media are 'most trusted'.


MyMy

Al B Tross's picture

Corporatists only care about money, and ratings bring money, lying brings ratings, so, what value is truth?

Ratings, and money are the only thing these people respect, or care about. They blame the Left for their sponsors pulling ads from unsavory programming, but never their unsavory programming.
Let us hope that the sponsors still care about trust. We know they care about our money.....and our trust brings them money, so......

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fastfeat's picture

Fux viewers don't care if it's bad for them, just as long as it tastes good and goes down easily.


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

ricky's picture

About Fox being last in polls of which media are "most trusted"?


"Folks, this is not your father's Republican Party."
Joe Biden

diddymao's picture

Never have I seen a talking head who can transition from obsequiousness to contempt as easily as breathing.
On a side note about Megan. Why would a woman with such pretty blond hair dye her roots so dark?


DiddyMao

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Big Fun's picture

Any Fox News anchor could be held hostage by a guest who brought a laptop with decent speakers. What would Megyn Kelly do if the guest started playing the 50 examples of Nazi imagery on Fox after she so shamelessly lied? I just think it would a hilarious experiment to watch her panic as the footage is played back for her.

AK23's picture

She would probably have their mics cut off and then cut out the footage so it never sees daylight. That's why anchors get away with lies because guests aren't able to come up with specific dates and times on the spot to counter their false arguments. That's what the anchors bet on, the guest getting caught off guard. Very rarely do guests throw out facts and numbers that bust the anchor on the spot.

angryspittle's picture

Megan Kelly is a stupid cow. She is so fucking clueless she doesn't even know she is as dumb as a fucking sack of lugnuts. Brainwashed beyond belief.

fastfeat's picture

a law degree and such. She just acts dumb, ie: She's a liar. Makes her all the more dangerous.


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

Rich H's picture

think people like her are intelligent. It goes back to our primitive roots and what it took to have a successful society - the capacity to work for the common good. Something people like her sorely lack so they are not as evolved as others (but of course that's my opinion and I might add, no one ever agrees with me).

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Patriot Actor's picture

to have some attributes.....but a heart and soul are obviously absent....

berniem's picture

Please, cut the poor girlie a break! If it weren't for Faux she'd have had to opt for making porn films!

bmw 528's picture

Only belches out the pre approved garbage the Republireich downloads into her corrupted memory chip. Must be interesting to be a living parody of competence.


"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."

Robert F. Kennedy

syme's picture

just please, please, please make them historically accurate. The brownshirts were part of the white, Christian majority. They scapegoated ethnic minorities, racial minorities, and religious minorities. They were also very nationalistic and patriotic. There is only one mainstream group that fits that description: T-baggers.

Megan kelly saying that fox news doesn't use Nazi imagery, is in itself, Goebbels-like denialism.

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