Financial Times' Ed Luce: Republicans Have Greater Hatred of Obama than Love of American National Security
While discussing Admiral Mike Mullen's interview on This Week, where he called a vote on the START treaty during the lame duck session of Congress "absolutely critical", The Financial Times' Ed Luce summed up very well just what's motivating Republicans to obstruct the treaty's passage: hatred of President Obama.
AMANPOUR: And, again, as Admiral Mullen said, it's not just a nice treaty with a foreign country. It is about Russia's cooperation on all the issues that the United States needs, whether it's Afghanistan, Iran, and all the rest of it.
Plus, I don't know what you think, but some are saying that this could give rise to the hard-liners in Russia again, who just do not want to -- who just don't want to deal with the United States.
LUCE: Oh, absolutely. I think it's -- it's a dream -- if you picked two countries that would like to see a failure of ratification, it would be North Korea and Iran. And I think that -- if that argument doesn't work with the Republicans, that sort of basic elemental national security argument doesn't work, nothing is. There's -- there's a greater hatred of Obama than there is a love of American national security.
Here's more on Mullen's interview from Think Progress --Admiral Mullen: New START Is ‘Absolutely Critical’ Calls For A Vote In Lame Duck:
On ABC’s This Week, Admiral Michael Mullen, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, aggressively urged the Senate to ratify the New START treaty, which Senate Republicans are threatening to obstruct. Mullen stressed the urgency of getting the treaty ratified, as US inspectors haven’t been on the ground monitoring Russian nuclear weapons for almost a year now. [...]
Republican Senators, led by Sen. Jon Kyl (R-AZ), are deliberately bucking the military leadership of the United States and, according to editorial boards across the country, are playing politics with US national security.
Full transcript below the fold.
AMANPOUR: A big week for Sarah Palin, one of the topics for our roundtable with George Will, Robert Reich, author of "Aftershock: The Next Economy and America's Future," Democratic strategist Donna Brazile, and Ed Luce of the Financial Times.
And I want to start with our interview with Mike Mullen. We're clearly going to get to Sarah Palin. What do you think? Admiral Mullen could barely be constrained from saying that he thought this was political, this holdup.
REICH: I thought it was very interesting, Christiane. I mean, when you asked him that question, he was very, very tempted -- you could almost read his mind -- to say that, look, Jon Kyl is taking direction from Mitch McConnell, who says explicitly that the next two years are going to be about making sure that Barack Obama is not a two-term president. And, therefore, this is all politics, and therefore, the Republicans are putting politics above national security.
AMANPOUR: I mean, on an issue like this, they can't do that, can they? I mean, really, he ticked off the military, the intelligence, the financial; all the questions that they had have been resolved.
WILL: I take Jon Kyl at his word, and I respect him very much. I think what he says is, first of all, it's nonsense to say, as Joe Biden, the gift who keeps on giving does say, that it is -- the vital national security interest of the United States is to ratify this in a lame-duck session? That means that if we didn't have a lame-duck session, which we shouldn't do ever, the nation would be...
AMANPOUR: But the vital interest is to ratify it right now, as soon as possible.
WILL: As opposed to six weeks from now? Oh, please.
AMANPOUR: But it -- but it looks like it would be put off, even if it was -- they want more debate. They want to reopen it, talk about it again.
WILL: Jon Kyl is bargaining for the modernization of our nuclear force.
AMANPOUR: So it's about money?
WILL: Can I give you -- that's part -- it's about the modernization of our force. Can I give you Will's law of arms control? Arm's control is impossible until it's unimportant. This is unimportant, so it's going to get done. That is, who lies awake at night worrying about the size, not the security, but the size of the Russian nuclear arsenal? No one.
AMANPOUR: Well, you're partly right there, because the size is not the main issue. It's the verification, which is a huge issue, and, vitally, American credibility. Here we have this story from North Korea today -- how does America stand up and say, "You guys can't proliferate," if we're not going to do this? How can we lead?
LUCE: Very, very difficult. I mean, Russia, of course, is a part of the six-party group with North Korea, and therefore its cooperation is also important there, as it is on Afghanistan, as it is on Iran.
These broader implications for failing to ratify START here go across the world. Russia's cooperation is something that Obama has worked on very successfully, very patiently, along with Hillary Clinton, for two years now, and this puts it in jeopardy.
Just one other point, though, about Mitch McConnell's pledge to make Obama a one-term president. Clearly, that's going to be the strategy of the Republicans. Question is, are they going to do it intelligently or unintelligently? And I think Senator Kyl, his comments and his stance, indicate it could well be the latter.
BRAZILE: Senator Kyl a year ago, after returning from Geneva, called upon the Senate to quickly ratify this treaty. Now, what has happened in one year? What has happened, clearly, is that the Republicans have redoubled their efforts to block anything that President Obama would like to see passed. They want to deny him a victory.
This is political malpractice. And Senator Kyl said that himself. So it might be -- George is probably correct. This might be about money, to get more money for the nuclear industry complex. The president has promised $4 billion more, but in all...
AMANPOUR: In addition to $80 billion.
BRAZILE: That's right. But in all of the hearings this year and all of the conversations, Senator Kyl, no one else, you know, expressed any objections, and now this is, I think, one of those political moments where they can succeed in blocking the president.
REICH: You know, there were 21 separate hearings and briefings. I mean, this is not something that is being put suddenly on the agenda. And for Kyl to say right now we just don't have time or this is -- there's not enough money I think defies logic.
AMANPOUR: And, again, as Admiral Mullen said, it's not just a nice treaty with a foreign country. It is about Russia's cooperation on all the issues that the United States needs, whether it's Afghanistan, Iran, and all the rest of it.
Plus, I don't know what you think, but some are saying that this could give rise to the hard-liners in Russia again, who just do not want to -- who just don't want to deal with the United States.
LUCE: Oh, absolutely. I think it's -- it's a dream -- if you picked two countries that would like to see a failure of ratification, it would be North Korea and Iran. And I think that -- if that argument doesn't work with the Republicans, that sort of basic elemental national security argument doesn't work, nothing is. There's -- there's a greater hatred of Obama than there is a love of American national security.





I was surprised by the comments. They were not letting Republicans off the hook. The next two years are going to be REAL interesting.
Jeanne
This Republican party opposes the overwhelming majority of Americans on concerns like party-before-country politics, arms treaties, human rights treaties, environmental treaties, unemployment benefits, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, tax cuts for the wealthy, don't ask don't tell, and apparently apple pie and motherhood.
And they're kicking the Democrats' butt at every turn. For starters, do you think Harry Reid could have fought for these issues before election day?
..power in Congress. What's that say about the future? We can look forward to a complete breakdown and failure at all levels of government once they control it all..and if the dems keep it up, we'll have no other choice but to ride out the storm.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qRJIBtbc2c
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
says it all. Anyone who votes for a Repube should be tried for treason, as in "giving aid and comfort to the enemy.":
woodguy
Where is the press about how repugs Killed the right for women to make the same MONEY as a man. What is up with Any women that would vote repugs. Repugs to women, just STFU, sit there and do as I say FOR EVER. Any women out there can tell me, Why would you vote any repug in office. Women, look it up. The paycheck Fairness Act. the repugs Killed it.
And naturally, George Will has to pipe in with how much he loves and respects Senator Kyl. Fer chrissakes, Will, would you and Kyl please go get a room and really express your mancrush?
Then politicwhore Will opines that all Kyl wants is to bargain for the modernization of our nuclear force. What the f*ck for, we've already got enough nukes to destroy the world by at least 20 times? This is pure military-industrial complex bullshit and Will and Kyl and McConnell and all the rest of the Republicans and probably 80% of Democrats are already in their pockets.
Democratic Party progressive, Vietnam veteran and proud Union member for 41 years
...funds to upgrading. kyl's stance is purely political and vindictive. george will is an ass.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
george will is nothing more than a asshole. He want the tax cuts for the rich because he is Rich and just as for the working people, go fuck yourself. I am for the rich & corporations, they pay me to say what I say.
Sarah Palin had a very big week. We have to talk about her because she's a viable and credible political force.
Because we talk about her. Her partisan hackery, her television show, her tweets...
Only when she's hungry for worms...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HONXAKYyai8
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Financial Times' Ed Luce: Republicans Have Greater Hatred of Obama than Love of America.
But as long as they stay the course on Gay Marriage and Abortion their drooling moran base will continue to support them no matter how far down they drag America.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnTLffNuVr4
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Your comments are spot on.
FOX will cause Congress to revise the Freedom of Speech issue because of a few of these fools.
The Republicants are shamelss & ruthless. In this day and age, they are still living in the 1800s. It is making them absolutely crazy that a black man is President and they will not rest until they bring down his presidency. They are sick people.
Woody McBreairty
another spot-on remark.
The righties have been peeing their pants ever since November 2008.
masses hate Obama for not being all white (half doesn't count - it's the old 'one drop' theory). The Republicans in Congress don't hate him for for his race - they just don't believe that a Democrat can legitimately hold power, and they are cynics and opportunists who are fine with using the racism of their base to attack him. My theory on these guys is that they were raised by cold,controlling fathers and are very insecure about their manhood - that gives us the Vitters, the Ensigns, the Craigs and the critical mass of them who are afraid because they were bested by a African American, and therefore need to crush him to prove to themselves that they have balls.
The majority of the Presidents detractors and opponents share a strong superstitious fellowship that is derived from the major Holy-books. Though he has all but french kissed the Corporate & Banking industry, he has noted his positions on the Pro-choice vs anti-choice issue, displayed an admiration for science and appears to have a secular ideology.
Though keep in mind... too them he appears as a Leftist, Socialist, Marxist, ect. and some indicators are indeed their on the other hand he has also undeniably displayed a Plutocratic... picture as well. "The Party of NO/Dominionist's" believes that Judeo–Christian law trumps our Secular Constitution and Islamic fundamentalist feel their beliefs trumps the aforementioned... and do not have a Secular Constitution like ours...
It's a dilemma we've always had, it's simply a fight between a... Secular society or one based on faith!!! So when they call President Obama a Leftist :-/ and scream they wants their Country back, that's exactly what they want... their Country back to the dark-ages were theocracies ruled just like Moses, Jesus and Allah. In general the hardcore Judeo–Christians don't want no Muslims in their lands and the Muslims don't want no Judeo–Christians in theirs... It's all about "GOD & COUNTRY"... just like its been throughout history and Big-business and the Bankers play along, as they take advantage of the conflict(s).
Obama/Clinton a Leftist? :-/ Yes they're Leftist to these peeps... and it shows just where they want to bring this Country back to, "The Dark-ages"... Tea Party Member Stuns Crowd!(2:57)
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Does this comment in reference to Hitchen's book "No one left to lie to" sound familiar to today's Admin?--- "When Bill Clinton was President, people attacked him from both ends of the American political spectrum. The Right asserted that his policies were too liberal, citing his stance on issues such as national health-care and partial birth abortion, while the Left claimed the opposite, citing as examples his support of welfare reform and opposition to gay marriage. About Clinton's behavior--his frequent lying, his repeated adultery, his draft-dodging, and so on--the Right shouted in vain for eight years, with no consequences for the President's approval rating. When confronted with these issues, liberals and moderates usually either looked the other way or defended Clinton, fearing that anything short of full support could give credibility and maybe even the executive branch to the Republicans.
Christopher Hitchens, a man of the Left on most issues, was an exception. No One Left to Lie To: The Triangulations of William Jefferson Clinton is his 1999 attack not just on Clinton's policies but also his ethics. Hitchens blasts Clinton for enacting policies that are essentially Republican, such as "welfare reform," which stole from the Republicans a key election issue while stranding the liberals who had no alternative but to stick with the President. Clinton has such a conservative record, Hitchens says, that it's a mystery why so many people on the Right hate him as much as they do (81)."
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Yes they want to take us back to their version of the dark ages. That's why Glenn Beck rants and raves about "secular humanists." Secular humanists ushered in the Renaissance. Now we are going in reverse.
Just another example of the treason that the GOP has engaged in ever since the attempted coup against FDR in 1935.
I'm not sure that's the starting point... but it is definitely an excellent reference point. √
Updated: I'd not necessarily blame it on the "GOP" but rather their currently similar ideological appearance. From my reviews it appears the labels seem to have somewhat overlapped, some highlight the civil-rights/segregation era as a focal point, and the claim seems to have merit from an ideological standpoint.
A few things that have been alleged to of taken place during that time in the early thirties.
FDR's side-kick "Henry A. Wallace" is alleged to of said this...
And this..
(D)-Carter Glass & (D)-Henry B. Steagall furnished us with the "Glass–Steagall Act of 1932"
Abraham Vereide(Of C-STREET/THE FAMILY) fame came on the scene and in 1935... Vereide founded the prayer breakfast movement in the United States.
And as you're probably well aware, it's also about the time(circa 1935) Sinclair Lewis declared... "Fascism will come wrapped in a flag and carrying a Bible"
It's no wonder, with an opinion like this... shortly-there-after, a seemingly fine president would be killed in TX and his Brother not to long afterward.
It's simply a Secular policy vs a Dominionist one... C'est la vie :-/
PS. "THE FAMILY" is not to fond of certain Catholics. Maybe because many don't play ball or are not Fascist enough? ;-/
Study the symptoms not the virus...
A pretty neat map I found last night that shows the Blue/Red trend over time...
A few things; as Sparks observes, the maps for 1924 and 2004 are nearly inverted, showing the South's transition from solidly Democratic to solidly Republican.
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Why do Republicans hate America?
Republicans are out for themselves and their corrupt masters- and that isn't the American people. Gullible fools keep watching and believing the lies of Fox Non news and voting for them! Open your eyes, help our Country, not some corrupt Republicans and their INTERNATIONAL country club buddies.
my a$$! Then of course, it occurs to me that they never did say which country, did they? Evil bastages...
- Pretzelogic in Philly, PA
And now for some feedback: Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
It is quite obvious that Republicans have zero interest in any sort of solutions for ANYTHING when Obama is in office. They want American's economic measures to fail, they want terrorism to happen, and they want ALL laws put in place by Obama to be reversed...no matter what they are
It is atrocious yet that is the Republican way
Once again Obama and the democrats are asleep at the wheel in defining this issue and selling it to the American people, this issue is even teed up for them
George Will is a bought and paid for ass.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
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