'Faux General' Kristol: Obama’s Nobel Speech Lays Predicate For Legitimate Use of Force Against Iran
From Think Progress--Kristol: Obama’s Nobel Speech ‘Lays The Predicate For The Legitimate Use Of Force’ Against Iran:
Since President Obama delivered his Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech last week, Bill Kristol has been arguing that it is somehow in-line with his neoconservative philosophy and that it vindicates President Bush’s “global war on terror” that he wholeheartedly supported.
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“The satisfying purity of indignation,” as Matt Duss noted, is “a wonderfully succinct description of the simplistic and destructive ideology that drove George W. Bush’s foreign policy, and which Bill Kristol is still trying heartily to convince himself and others hasn’t been discredited.”
Transcript via.
WALLACE: After a series of speeches overseas in which he apologized for past American actions, President Obama accepted the Nobel Peace Prize this week with a strong statement of the positive role the U.S. has played in the world.
And it's time now for our Sunday group -- Bill Kristol of The Weekly Standard, Mara Liasson of National Public Radio, former State Department official Liz Cheney, and Juan Williams, also from National Public Radio.
So, Bill, the president chose an interesting time and place to make this speech, before an audience -- accepting the Nobel Peace Prize, of course, before an audience, I think it's fair to say, of European leftists. He defended the use of force and said that the U.S. is not the problem with the world.
How significant a change in the president's world view?
KRISTOL: It could be pretty significant. It wasn't the speech the Nobel Peace Prize committee expected him to give, I think, when they awarded him the prize entirely for being not George W. Bush. And he gave the most Bush-like speech of his presidency.
Those who -- what did he say? The belief that peace is desirable is rarely enough to achieve it. That's a very elegant and strong statement of the fact that you can't just want peace.
He made it clear that you need military force, that he will act if threats are looming, not just once they've attacked. He actually articulated his own version of the preemptive doctrine.
He mentioned Iran twice in the speech -- I think it was the only nation he mentioned twice -- as a problem both for human rights and for their nuclear program. And in this speech, unlike in Prague and in Cairo, his two previous big foreign speeches, he didn't say the Islamic Republic of Iran. He just dealt with Iran as a -- as a threat.
So it was quite a different speech. And we'll see if it's followed up by real policy changes.
[...]
WALLACE: Bill Kristol, are you going to stand for Juan Williams continuing to run down this president?
KRISTOL: I think it's terrible, you know?
(LAUGHTER) And I'm sure the president's very upset by it.
No, it shows how possibly important this speech is in the sense that he really has, I think, partly because of the Afghanistan decision, but partly because of the failure of the engagement efforts -- he tried it. He was entitled to. He won the election.
He said he wanted to engage Iran. He said he wanted to have a reset button with Russia. He said he wanted to have -- he did an Asia trip where he was very mild with the Chinese on human rights. He's totally pulled his punches, really almost shamefully so, I'd say, in the case of the Iranians who went into the streets in June. None of it has worked. And I think -- I very much hope he has really learned the lesson that it hasn't worked.
You know, what Mara mentioned -- there's still a lot of stuff in the speech that I'm not crazy about, as Liz suggested. Mara mentioned the fact that he does talk a lot about acting together, acting in concert.
But there's this one sentence, "There will be times when nations acting individually or in concert will find the use of force not only necessary but morally justified." That's a pretty striking statement.
(CROSSTALK)
KRISTOL: I mean, I think any American president should say that who's looking at Iran developing nuclear weapons. I think he is -- it's not just that Israel might use preemptive force against Iran.
This speech lays the predicate for a legitimate use of force to prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons.
WILLIAMS: That's why...
(CROSSTALK)
WILLIAMS: But 11 months in you're saying give up on talking, give up on the use of sanctions. It's -- he's tried all...
(CROSSTALK)
WALLACE: No, no, he isn't saying give up on the use of sanctions.
(CROSSTALK)
WILLIAMS: That's what -- that's what Bill Kristol -- Bill Kristol just said...
(CROSSTALK)
WILLIAMS: OK. But I'm saying that's why last week I said, you know, why is -- why is President Obama reacting to the generals and to the (inaudible) generals like General McChrystal who are calling for more military action, more aggression? LIASSON: You know...
WILLIAMS: What happened to the...
WALLACE: All right.
WILLIAMS: ... Barack Obama who said he was opposed to war?
it's amazing how this looks so much like a 3rd term for bush.
Some stuff you can't make up!
So far the only change we have seen is the congress waste 11 months on a bill that won't reform health care.
There are no war crimes trials.
There are no wall street trials.
There are no Black Water trials.
There are no reversals of the "patriot" act.
There are no reversals on domestic wire tapping.
GITMO is still open.
Darth Cheney roams the streets at night as a free "man".
There are no trials for anyone who purposefully fucked over this country the last 8 years for their own profit. It makes one wonder if anything has changed, or if Obama is planning to follow the same path.
For his refusal to uphold our constitution and laws to prosecute criminals which have broken our laws and committed crimes..
William Kristol is a conservative right wing republican and does not know his a.. from a hole in the ground..
Kristol stated in 2007 that Bush was a success and the economy was just great... Because of the tax cuts to the rich. We see was a d.. joke that was along with Bush and Cheney's administration..
But Obama is following in the same d.. footsteps and criminal actions , along with his full court press to censor information about the previous administration crimes and to stop any prosecution of them..
This makes Obama a accomplish in Bush's destruction and crime..
Bush and Cheney started off their administration with one of the largest crimes in our history by stealing the 2000 election from GORE>
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
Why Bush Will Be A Winner
By William Kristol
Sunday, July 15, 2007
I suppose I'll merely expose myself to harmless ridicule if I make the following assertion: George W. Bush's presidency will probably be a successful one.
Let's step back from the unnecessary mistakes and the self-inflicted wounds that have characterized the Bush administration. Let's look at the broad forest rather than the often unlovely trees. What do we see? First, no second terrorist attack on U.S. soil -- not something we could have taken for granted. Second, a strong economy -- also something that wasn't inevitable.
And third, and most important, a war in Iraq that has been very difficult, but where -- despite some confusion engendered by an almost meaningless "benchmark" report last week -- we now seem to be on course to a successful outcome.
The economy first: After the bursting of the dot-com bubble, followed by the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, we've had more than five years of steady growth, low unemployment and a stock market recovery. Did this just happen? No. Bush pushed through the tax cuts of 2001 and especially 2003 by arguing that they would produce growth.
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Many things stopped getting worst. No IRAN war yet. The stock market stopped crashing. We aren't in a depression. Remember that as Obama fights to make things better that the Republican and the people who voted for them are fighting to make things worst.
waiting for K-Street and Congress to "send me something to sign" fighting?
As far as I am concern Obama has been a complete failure to the citizens of this nation and the promises he promised in his campaign..
Emanuel must have Obama right under his thumb and controls his every move or Obama was or has become the left-hand of the corporate republican party...
The republicans wanted every policy Obama has push..
The tax welfare bailout ,
Giving our money to the auto companies ,
The war in Afghanistan and Iraq to continue ,
Not,, to renegotiate the free trade bill (which has sent over 7 million jobs overseas along with our manufacturing plants and tax income on the products produced)
Keep all of Bush's illegal policies which has destroy our constitution /bill of rights and laws,,
Now forcing Americans to buy this criminal health policies and giving the health companies 30 to 40 million new policy holders..
(That is something they could not have received in over a hundred years.
The health bill was written and giving to Baucus , Blue dogs and republican on the committee to pass and now it look as if the health and drug companies have their dreams come true thanks to the sellout of president OBAMA and the DEMOCRATS to the giant , corporate monopolies which are now in full control of our government and the policies they FORCE onto us....
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a good talker. Slick, polished. Probably not to much real substance under that facade but we got what we deserved (again) I suppose.
Or if you Take away Obama's speeches (he has copied) does he still have any substance...
Hillary said while on the campaign trail that Obama was a person with just a speech and she NAIL him...
Does Obama use other person's words to creat his speeches..
Has Obama really brought a change WE can survive with..
We know that wall street has been help , But what about Main Street??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8M6x1H08aFc&fe...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbR_JxTHTz4&fe...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbR_JxTHTz4&fe...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5tIb9-s91U&fe...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iwcupp82I3A&fe...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybd7MUixxyg&fe...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kExctvzrIvI&fe...
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I think President Obama had good intentions going in. But what we're seeing is that the "Powers that Be" aren't going to LET him have his "Change." That is, the Military/Wall St./CIA nexus which comprises the "Shadow Government" that really runs things in this country. How is he going to pass Health Care Reform when key senators are bought-and-paid-for, wholly owned property of Big Business? He is also finding out that the "bubble" he inhabits as President is also wholly owned. The war in Afghanistan continues, as Xe (Blackwater) partnered with the CIA conducts military "black ops" in Waziristan as their "black ops" in Iraq are only now coming to light.
The Shadow Government is alive and well - that's why there will be no change.
just along for the ride
There has not been one iota of proof that Iran has any current ambition to develop nuclear weapons. They ended that program JIT in 2003, when Dubya illegally invaded Iraq over Saddam's nonexistent WMD. But Iran is hard-pressed to build a sustainable civil nuclear power program ASAP. The West, and the USA specifically, have been strangling the Iranian economy for 40 years, in the form of sanctions that limit Iran's ability to refine enough gasoline and diesel fuel to keep their economy going. Imagine that - an OPEC country with more that 20% of the world's petroleum reserves that is not permitted by Western powers to refine enough fuel to keep their economy going. They are busy converting trucks and buses over to LNG, which they have plenty of, in order to thrive economically. Iran needs their civilian nuclear power program in order to shift Natural Gas consumption away from electric power plants to use in multi-modal transportation.
The Iranians are signatories to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, and in good standing with the UN IAEA regarding inspection protocols. And since they have adequate internal sources of uranium ore, they don't want to be beholden to or dependent upon Western (General Electric & Westinghouse) control of their nuclear fuel cycle. Their economy has already been throttled and held for blackmail - the goal being what has always been the goal in Iran, Western control over Iran's petroleum reserves.
The public disagreement between Iran and Western interests has nothing to do with the possibility of Iran turning their (future) spent civilian nuclear fuel rods into WMD. The Iranian's sources of uranium ore are too contaminated with molybdenum to be concentrated beyond the purity needed for civilian nuclear power plants. The centrifuges that the Iranians are using are not capable of isolating out those impurities. It is not even about public disagreement with the Israeli government over the Zionist stranglehold on the Palestinian West Bank, or even the illegal blockade of the Palestinian Gaza Strip, let alone Israel's penchant for illegal military actions against Iraqi and Syrian civilian nuclear power facilities.
It has everything to do with Western control over the Iranian economy, to throttle it, to foment civil unrest in Iran to the extent of forcing regime change there. When both Democrats and Republicans in the USA Congress voted 400 Million USD$ to foment the destabilization of the duly elected, democratic government of the Islamic Republic of Iran, the wish to both placate and serve Israeli intentions against Iran were of purely secondary interest. The name of the game is oil. That is why the USA illegally invaded Iraq (Production Sharing Agreements), why the USA is still in Afghanistan (Caspian Basin Pipeline), and why we are still trying to destabilize Iran (Oil & NG Reserves).
The USA, since the close of World War II, has been engaged in the very same Economic Imperialism that we fought the Japanese over -- our very own "Co-Prosperity Sphere". The Iranians (or Afghans or Iraqis) don't hate the USA for our "freedoms" -- they hate our government's sense of entitlement to every other country's natural resources under the guise of American Exceptionalism. And rightly so.
What is especially galling is that the USA is doing this, not for the enrichment of our nation, but for the subsidized enrichment of multinational energy companies that no longer hold any particular USA patriotism, and we have been doing so for the past 8 years on borrowed money.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-- John F. Kennedy
Don't forget that in 2007 we were close to bombing IRAN.
That's when they decided to build the Backup Plant.
Remember the HOLMUZ incident?
Did anybody mention the AROUND 200 Nukes Israel owns?
Jewish nukes are Kosher.
Israel.... Israel doesn't want peace in the middle east until they receive all the land and control all the weapons in that area..
Israel is still planning war against Iran , but wants to make it look as if Iran started it and US will back them..
Just as Israel slandered the citizens in Gaza Strip behind the blockage wall they created.. While they censored and blockage all news media or anyone from seeing their criminal destruction to Gaza's infrastructure and their innocent civilians..
Israel's lobbyist groups OWN the republicans and the democrats..
Specially the presidential candidates have to get the approval of the Jewish organizations like AIPAC before they can be considered as a serious contender for that office.
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Check out this article about the way they treated the man who "outed" them on THEIR "secret" nuclear weapons program "back in the day":
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
...with us.
Kristol logic = when brown people are destroyed, safer world.
..I have a bit of a problem...
What about the three hikers being held in Iran right now who may face the death penalty for their inability to use a map? Why hasn't iran been condemned or at least encircled by the world to force their release?
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
...part of the world(of all fucking places to go on a trail) considering the damage We've done to that region the last couple of decades is subject to the laws of that Nation.
..just, the death penalty is a little extreme doncha' think?
This is all for ahmadinejad's little political theater. he's a louse (that's being kind) who is incapable of telling the truth.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
Seriously. If you were even a "professional hiker" wouldn't it be smarter to travel to some other part of the planet to "hike" than on the border of a country the U.S. considers to be one of the three "axis' of EVIL"??
These people (who are they anyhow??) did not go hiking there out of innocent stupidity.
As my Grandma used to say, "ACT LIKE A TARGET AND YOU'LL GET SHOT."
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
just like Amanda Knox being convicted. The world out there hates our fucking guts, and not w/o reason. We know why we're unpopular in Iran, and basically what for, but why are we unpopular in Italy? Read this and this.
The whole of the world hates us, and any little pissant US citizen moaning "But I'm an American!" isn't a good basis to plead a case out there anymore, unless the CIA is still controlling it. Even then...
As for what you refer to as 'ahmadinejad's little political theater,' it's a very condescending manner of describing this tactic. And there is about 99,999% of the problem: lack of respect for others. We have put this world through a load of 'political theater' as well. Including Iran. They're just playing the game the way we do.
me-oww!
It's quite amazing the different reactions to the media. On the one hand, no one believes a word of it when it concerns some US politician who's nominally on the left. On the other hand they'll believe any slander or libel against some leaders of other countries. Ahmahdinejad is an Israel hating fascist who barbecues babies for dinner with Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro. The more absurd and unbelievable the lie the more people seem to buy it.
Why would anyone believe anything our media says about foreign leaders? It's all spin. Satanize them and it makes US invasion look like we're rescuing their poor downtrodden citizens from eternal torment.
The media has been propagandizing for the government for decades. Somehow the former dictator of Nicaragua, Somoza's secret police, are turned into "freedom fighters". Truly disgusting. In the press, Hugo Chavez is a dictator who is universally hated, in Venezuela, the only group that hates him are the elites that he's taking some of their obscene profits from. The list is long and sordid. A virtual "greatest hits" list. Unfortunately, those hits usually end up with a democratically elected leader dying and a dictator taking over.
http://www.zompist.com/latam.html
Trail and ended up in Iran. Sometimes the wrong turn will take you to Argentina. It's the swamps at the trailhead that get confusing. All those tan lines look like they are leading somethere good.
"Folks, this is not your father's Republican Party."
Joe Biden
"Hmm, I knew I should've taken that left turn at Albuquerque. ..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8TUwHTfOOU
They just have prove that they are innocents... if they do
These are not mountains for being "lost".
You probably are also questioning the IRANIAN WMD Claims.
Suspicious?
By the way they won't face death.
Did they pass through the garden of immortality?
"Folks, this is not your father's Republican Party."
Joe Biden
Bloody Billy's never been right about a single thing in his life; why should he start now?
"Buy the ticket, take the ride."
Hunter S. Thompson
Oh good
We don't war a war with poor grammer.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Bristling with imperialist arrogance, Obama’s speech amounted to a full-throated defense of US aggression and a brief for the unlimited use of military violence to recolonize large parts of the world. Delivered by a president who only a week before had announced an escalation of the war in Afghanistan and Pakistan that will lead to the deaths of many thousands, the speech essentially asserted the right of the United States to invade any country in the world.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/dec2009/per...
If there is another group of utter failures who come close to matching the laissez-faire deregulation crowd in economics, it's the Neocon slime in foreign policy.
Both frameworks have been shown to be utterly disastrous in achieving their stated goals, yet both frameworks are still the only "Serious" frameworks allowed to dominate the public discussion, and their proponents keep their jobs as "Serious" commentators despite being consistently and famously wrong.
Who needs unemployment if you're covered by wingnut welfare?
Corruption favors the wealthy.
That smile...Bill must be fantasizing about all those dead and mutilated Persian children.
Man, Kristol wants to attack everyone. I think if we had his way he would wage war with every nation he doesn't care for. War is for self-defense NOT profit for the military industrial complex!
war conquest
Wikipedia:
According to journalist Dana Milbank, Kristol was "perhaps the most outspoken supporter of the Iraq War".[10] On September 18, 2002, he declared that a war in Iraq "could have terrifically good effects throughout the Middle East." A day later, he said Saddam Hussein was "past the finish line" in developing nuclear weapons. On February 20, 2003, he said of Saddam: "He's got weapons of mass destruction;... Look, if we free the people of Iraq we will be respected in the Arab world."[11] On March 1, 2003 — 18 days before the invasion of Iraq — Kristol dismissed the possibility of sectarian conflict afterward. He also said, "Very few wars in American history were prepared better or more thoroughly than this one by this president." He maintained that the war would cost $100 billion to $200 billion (the cost is now about a trillion dollars). On March 5, 2003, Kristol said, "We'll be vindicated when we discover the weapons of mass destruction."[11]
Woops
It's amazing how so many bad people are always found near oil and gas deposits. Must be the fumes...
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"Folks, this is not your father's Republican Party."
Joe Biden
...the guy always comes off like a nervous criminal. Like someone who's on trial, knows he's guilty and lies on the stand trying his best to sound sane and hope the jury believes him. What a f'ing neurotic. Like an evil Woody Allen. And that aside, he's wrong on just about everything.
"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked. "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad." "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
This guy desperately needs the Berlusconi treatment.
I think I'm turning Japanese, I think I'm turning Japanese, I really think so.....
and there's a long list who deserve that treatment. Mara Liasson, there's no more love for you either.
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All you need to turn the Berlusconi treatment into the Mussolini treatment is a sufficiently large-scale model building. 1:4 probably sufficient.
"And it's time now for our Sunday group -- Bill Kristol of The Weekly Standard, Mara Liasson of National Public Radio, former State Department official Liz Cheney, and Juan Williams, also from National Public Radio."
Yech.Imagine being trapped on an elevator with this line up?
You'd have to kill yourself.
"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "
-Jack Handy
I think Bill's view of the speech is closer to being correct.
Where this chickenhawk needs to be making his little pronouncements is in the outposts on the mountaintops in Afghanistan to the troops. See how he likes it. The asshole. God, I really, really hate this bastard.
I have no doubt whatsover that Obama will strike Iran and get away with it.
If Bush or McCain used force against Iran there would be all kinds of outcries against it. But it seems Obama can do anything and he is not called to accont by those on the left.
Does anyone understand it yet that Obama is governing from the center-right? Obama is no left winger folks on any level.
Tell me one area of which Obama can be said to be a progressive or liberal? I will be waiting!
Obama is Bush.
Barack H. Bush
then any other president man! He's really progressive!
Our economy is still in the shitter, we have two unfinished, FUBAR'd wars that the final bill ain't yet in for, and this grinning mofo wants to start a third war in Iran?
Fuckin' draft the lot of 'em and send these assclowns off to fight. From Smirk-Boy Wallace to Screamin' Mimi Beck and Torture Boy Hannity. Drop fuckin' Rush out of a plane, he's sure to do as well as any MOAB. Dress Sarah Palin in her patriotic best and let her wink and dazzle the Ayatollahs into recanting their evil ways. Send Dick Cheney, and when his ticker quits, make sure that evil spawn Liz is there to drag his body back for the funeral.
While we're at it, let's get the Democrats to go. Lieberman can caucus with the Armored Cav for a change. Pelosi and Reid can show their support for bipartisanship. Obama wants to continue Bush's policies, he can fight Bush's War. Send the girls. Send Desiree Rogers. Hell, let's send Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright.
Fuck it all. Put general's stars on Tareq Salahi and give Michaele an M-16.
PRESS THE FUCKING BUTTON AND START WORLD WAR III.
Maybe the cockroaches will get it right.
When the speech of the President on being awarded the "Peace" prize is that war is a perfectly acceptable tool for achieving peace, we have at last arrived in Wonderland. No wonder the right-wingers loved the speech. Peace is war, good is bad, it's 1984 again.
This administration has been such a huge disappointment in matters of war, the economy, civil rights, HCR, etc. I will vote in '10 for Dems because there is a difference between passive and aggressive evil in government. However, I will vote unenthusiastically. I am certain the lack of enthusiasm of the base will be reflected multifold by the general electorate. Expect bad things to happen in '10.
Candideinnc
Here's a rundown of the Right's enthusiastic reception of the speech,from the foul WSJ editorial page downwards.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/dec2009/per...
and the comments I am amazed that Dennis the K has not yet dropped in the impeachement resolution for Obama. Just another politician abandoning his base.
"Folks, this is not your father's Republican Party."
Joe Biden
to take up space on earth but as far as Obama we've been had. Hustled by Axlerod + Co's slick PR bullshit . . etc . .
I'm seriously pissed at this point.
someone who wasn't even born in America?
"Folks, this is not your father's Republican Party."
Joe Biden
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Of course, after all the money/time I gave to help Obama get elected the mantra of W.C. Fields keeps going through my head:
"NEVER GIVE A SUCKER AN EVEN BREAK."
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
ricky - what do you mean? Kristol was born in NYC.
... Obama. He came out of a box of soap flakes, you know.
Obama came from a Nigerian e-mail promising great riches and hope. Everyone knows that was the only reason they voted for him. They were just so caught up in the excitement of his candidacy they are now forced to reveal their absolute stupidity here in the glow of the blogosphere.
"Folks, this is not your father's Republican Party."
Joe Biden
but I didn't expect he would concede totally and passively and quickly to those he's obligated by oath to protect us from.
He may as well have just given everyone the finger right after his swearing in.
he brought in Rahm.
Seriously though, I am so disappointed, I am numb at this point.
I agree with Evet. It probably took place somewhere on earth, but
his similarity with Obama is eery. It is almost like Sara Palin ghost wrote the speech!
"Folks, this is not your father's Republican Party."
Joe Biden
never met a war he did not like...
...but would wet his pants if he ever fought in one.
Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.
That smarmy little grin. And he's one of the 'godfathers' of the war that made it impossible for thouands of American kids and a million Iraqi kids to never smile again. He needs to be evicted from his ivory tower, have a parachute strapped on him, and dropped in the center of downtown Baghdad wearing a shirt identifying him in Arabic.
.... there's room for a remake of Die Hard III with Bill Kristol and Michael Steele in place of Bruce Willis and Samuel L. Jackson.
comes more to mind.
"Folks, this is not your father's Republican Party."
Joe Biden
also comes to mind.
My wish for William Kristol is that he be on the receiving end of some of the suffering and violence for which he as advocated for so long. I'd love to see him hungry and struggling to put a roof over his head. The only thing this schmuck has over done was be the son of Irving Kristol. Son of a bitch indeed.
The bloody Kristol is a moron and is just seething that Obama won the peace prize.
Maybe Kristol can waterboard Hannity - "For the Troops."
Kristol should stick to playing 'Risk' with his moron friends.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
I want to see William the Bloody prosecuted for encouraging, supporting, and promoting the war in Iraq, war with Iran, and any future wars these neocon demons want.
Politics is for the present, but an equation is for eternity. Albert Einstein
Absolutely oblivious to the state of the economy. It's all war!war!war! They're like children with plastic, little, green army men.
If someone used force on kristol.
He is the sorriest sob I have ever see. Well net to every other neocon.
SHOW ME THE OMLET....
Bill is at it again. What is with these armchair generals that appear to want to flaunt US military power so haphazardly?
through to supporting Iraq in the 80-88 war...
and the shooting down of Iran Air Flight 655....
means that the USA holds no high ground over Iran.
Now if Iran started patrolling the Gulf of Mexico...
well then...
....the CHICKENHAWKS like Kristol and Cheney volunteer and take their military age spawn, men and woman, with them to fight.
If Obama makes the case that war _can_ be the answer, all they have to do is assert that war with Iran _is_ the answer. Whether it is WMD's, the Gulf of Tonkin, or "Remember the Maine!", that can always be arranged. Not chess, not poker, not even checkers, Obama. It's really pretty simple.
Krystol is just crowing about Obama acting like a tool of the military/industrial complex.
If Obama makes the case that war _can_ be the answer, all they have to do is assert that war with Iran _is_ the answer. Whether it is WMD's, the Gulf of Tonkin, or "Remember the Maine!", that can always be arranged. Not chess, not poker, not even checkers, Obama. It's really pretty simple.
Krystol is just crowing about Obama acting like a tool of the military/industrial complex.
Sometimes they've posted. Sometimes they haven't.
Is Bill Kristols' face surgically altered so that it's always got that sh#t eating grin on it?
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