Eric Cantor: No One Wants to Go on Medicaid
Eric Cantor claims that no one wants to go on Medicaid. Really? I wonder if those with no insurance at all or with their premiums going through the roof that might prefer that option would agree with you? He also says the GOP wants "more people uninsured". As Media Matters asked, Freudian slip?
CANTOR: ...the, the reality is, and take a little bit a different approach here and difference with that statement, the reality is Republicans do care about health care. We want to address the first and most foundational element which is cost, because if we can bring down costs, more people can access care. But we also know that there is something we need to do to get more people on insured. The problem is with the president's bill, it's about expanding Medicaid. No one wants to, to go onto Medicaid. That's why physicians in Florida and other states are leaving Medicaid in droves because of the imperfect reimbursement structure. That's what this bill is about is expanding the government programs that don't work. We need real reform to bring down costs.
If they were "concerned" about bringing down COSTS they'd go with single payer and take the profit OUT OF THE MIX unanimously. PERIOD! AND since WHEN did ANY republican care on bit for anyone other than themselves. What they need to do is to get OFF the PUBLIC DOLE themselves and stop LIVING OFF THE BACKS of the people who pay their salaries now.
As far as all the know nothings saying Medicaid or other "entitlements" can't be done with reconciliation then all the CUTS THEY MADE IN THE 90s will have to be repealed and all those they threw in the streets and left without coverage they were "entitled" to reimbursed for all the suffering they've gone through.
The 17 years I went without coverage is the REASON I am disabled today. Had I been able to continue treatment MY heart and vascular problems would have been controlled and I would STILL be paying taxes.
Also, WE PAID THROUGH PAYROLL TAXES FOR UPWARDS OF 30 YEARS for Medicare and Social Security, some up to 50 years and it's not OUR FAULT scum like HIM stole all the money for WAR MONGERING and TAX CUTS for themselves that WE aren't rich enough to get.
These republicans are the scum of the earth! They really deserve some bad shit to happen to them. I think I am begining to agree with some of the christians that maybe we should pray for their deaths!
America really needs to be rid of these fools one way or another.
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness and it is killing America!
everytime i hear or see this
asswipe, i just want to bitch-slap
him to the bermuda triangle where
he belongs.
Dems were pushing HCR because we had 30-46million uninsured.
The Rep Talking point then was, "Heck that number wasn't so big, a shitload of these prople qualify for Medicaid...." In other words, lets just get these folks signed up and a 1/3 of the problem is solved.
Now Dems propose getting about the same numbers on Medicaid they panic and say there's no way. just another Rep bait and switch, they do it all the time, succker Dems into a position they'd like us to think they'd support and then they beat you with it.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/ybenjamin...
when Cantor thought we'd might like to be on medicaid
Yep. The profit motive is the main problem. Mention that to a Republican though and you're in for an hour long rant about how liberals hate success, hate business, want class warfare, etc.
Cantor has not a clue about people that need health care. Take away his health care and see how he feels. He has the best health care money can buy. We pay for it and he will have it for life.
pennlady
...he's a malignant sociopath. It isn't in him to have a clue or to care about anything other than his own self-interests. Self is his highest and only reality.
cantor the kankor sore
"We need real reform to bring down costs."
if cantor and the repugs really wanted real reform,
he/they would take those depends off their heads.
like the 30% overhead of private insurance vs the 4% for Medicaid.
He was telling the truth when he said republicans care about health insurance, they care about health insurance companies making as much money as possible.
I do!
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness and it is killing America!
Cantor is a clueless douchenozzle
Barack Obama: Change we can only imagine
...they care enough to make sure that nobody gets any.
The Republican Party: People who don't care about other People. The sociopath's choice!
This douchebag wants to bring down costs? Hallelueah, so do I! I've got the perfect way to do it, too: Stop illegal wars of aggression that were instigated as a first choice. Dismantle and stop funding the police state. End all privatization scams and "outsourcing" of government services; they always cost far, far more money than when the government does it. Empty the prisons of people who are incarcerated for victimless crimes like smoking dope, replace those who have been freed with dirty politicians and those who were partners in their corruption. Stop funding the military/industrial cartels and war profiteers. Defund and abolish the department of homeland security, which seems to exist solely to turn free American citizens into beaten and cowering Amerikan subjects. Raise taxes and start rapidly paying down the national debt, the money saved in interest will be in trillions of dollars at this point. Abolish the Federal Reserve and their mother of all scams, the fractional reserve system, in which every dollar printed is a loan that the tax payers pay interest on; return that function to the Federal Government.
I can do this all night. We'll save trillions in wasted dollars and take the crooks out of the loop. The amount of money saved will not only pay for universal healthcare, it would see anybody who wanted it free educations through the post-doctoral level, see to it that nobody lived in need, and on and on. Maybe we could even find a nice padded cells within which confines twisted, amoral, souless sociopaths like Eric Cantor to live out their days... nice protected environments where these malign and deviant personalities could no longer prey upon or parsitize the citizenry.
Sweeeet!
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
Ding ding! Today's winner!
I want that "Republican Party" line on a bumper sticker.
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
It's amazing that Eric Cantor can speak articulately when he has his nose wedged so far up Boehner's back side. Cantor is the very definition of a political whore. He will do or say anything that keeps him in office. I don't think the man has a scintilla of courage to stand up for what's right for the people. He may as well wear patches on his blazer to show off his sponsors - not unlike Captain Amazing from Mystery Men.
"The people don't want this bill". The people don't want this, or that.
Man, fuck you! The "people" you speak for are the criminal ignorants at Fox who'd rather die than allow that colored President to help them, and the insurance pimps who own your two dollar ass.
There's an awful lot of us who don't like mandatory coverage or face fines, buying policies that are growing more expensive and covering less, and no apparent reform in sight, beyond maybe revoking McCarran/Ferguson.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
This asshole helped destroy the soul of HCR and now the fucker complains that the watered down bill sucks.
"*Sob Sob* My friends and I pissed all over my bed, and now it smells like urine!!! *Sob Sob*"
me-oww!
What kind of parties do you have?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
not one of mine, mate.
me-oww!
Yeah, the most used Republican talking point "the people don't want this bill" I got a response similar to that when I wrote to the one Republican Senator in my state last summer and he responded something like "the American people don't want this health care bill" I replied back to him how he knows this to be true, did he ask them, did he do a poll or is it just convenient to say so.
This is the truth most Americans feel that are health care system needs overhauling. Republicans want to kill the bill move on and forget about it! What really gets my blood pressure up is the way the media gives these sociopaths so much credence!
This may not be the most efficient way to achieve this objective but everyone needs health care and I feel everyone is entitled to some health care. It is time to stop committing this crime against our own citizens. If the bill is killed 16,000 plus will die again this year because they didn't health care and the Republicans will take back Congress and that scares the Hell out of me!
Medicare is what people who understand this stuff wants, not Medicaid.
Not that I think HE understands the difference: even a broken clock is right occasionally...
There's a deductible with Medicare, not with Medicaid. There are copays w/ Mw=edicare, not with Medicaid.
I DO have the T-shirt on this.
me-oww!
My monthly premium is $110, deducted from my disability check before I see it. It was never meant to be "free" even though the Right likes to paint that picture. Open Medicare to all; do away with Medicaid; fix the parts that aren't working in Medicare. And it can ALL be done with reconciliation.
yay-or not.
me-oww!
my uninsured parent has 26 months to go till she qualifies for Medicare, I'd be able to die happy if I was able to get her on Medicaid in the meantime.
Cantor is a liar, and a monster.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
He DOES understand the difference and is deliberately trying to confuse people.
Very few Americans want to find themselves in a position to be eligible for MedicAID.
That system requires you be indigent and have less than $2000 in assets. Many states go back 5 years in time to calculate what your assets are so you just can't dump all you own and just sign up.
Like anybody who isn't on their last legs would want to do that anyway.
With MedicAID, the government can seize assets to pay for care if you have any after the care is over.
Wat he wants people to believe is that MedicAID and MediCare are the SAME thing which they absolutely 100% are not.
If he and other thugs can confuse the issue, they can make a strong case against the expansion of a system that nobody wants to have to use (MedicAID) and have it viewed as the system (MediCare) that almost nobody who has it would ever want to give up.
Ignorant obfuscation at the very least and outright lying as the most likely possibility.
And still, he's not called on it when he brings it up.
I do believe that the folks who call themselves broadcast journalists have become so obsessed with how their fricking makeup looks on camera that they have lost most, if not all, ability, to do their goddamned jobs.
That's why there's Medicare.
Medicaid is for the elderly and the broke.
And what makes people broke?
Medical costs.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I have been on Medicare since I was 49.
me-oww!
Is that true that after 2 years on medicaid you can go onto medicare even before you're 65?
Cantor speaks only of the elite doctors who dont want to deign to treat medicaid patients & not get as much money reimbursed. Like his doctors. People are lining up down the blocks praying they'll be allowed to get on meicaid.
if you are disabled, like my cancer left me.
me-oww!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKym33vK1cs
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Medicare years ago! Like in my early twenties! Only started getting Medicare services last year, it was a government oversight apparently...
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
I wish I could've gotten on Medicaid two years earlier than I did. Then my cancer would've been spotted while it was still small and much cheaper (to me, physically, and the system monetarily) to treat.
Fuckwit.
me-oww!
scare the elderly that obama wants to take away medicare....
scare everyone else that he wants to take away medicaid....
then tell us how bad both are
come on eric you fucktard....tell us even one way that you are going to reduce costs....and prove it
The GOP wants you dead. It's like the perfect murder. They want Americans dead via war and no health care. They are murdering us and getting away with it. And there Obama and the Dems sit.
As much as cantor may try, he doesn't remind me of Clark Kent so much as:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_BF-LXStLrMA/SZxaXLR...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Snidely Whiplash. It is fitting that this evil villain, this twisted little toad, also looks the part.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZm47SrmuwM
Good thing I like beans
Since they seem to be all I can afford.
My proctologist hates me.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
that comic book ad that said "You, too, can be a proctologist!
He reminds me of Ed Grimly.
http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh232/pers...
"Someday somebody related to some of these sufferers, these victims, these collaterally damaged souls, may try to kill you. And I have to tell you, I think you’ll have it coming." - Christopher Cooper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc2o8ywKqos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLBQxk72NY
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
If you're confused about the two, here's a starting point:
Medicaid is a health program for individuals and families with low incomes and resources. Medicare is a social insurance program that provides health insurance to people age 65 or older, people under age 65 with certain disabilities, and people of all ages with end stage renal disease. The Medicare Program provides a Medicare part A which covers hospital bills, Medicare Part B which covers medical insurance coverage, and Medicare Part D which covers prescription drugs.
In comparison, Medicaid is a needs-based social welfare or social protection program rather than a social insurance program. Eligibility is determined by income. The main criterion for Medicaid eligibility is limited income and financial resources, a criterion which plays no role in determining Medicare coverage. Medicaid covers a wider range of health care services than Medicare.
Some individuals are eligible for both Medicaid and Medicare (also known as Medicare dual eligibles). In 2001, about 6.5 million Americans were enrolled in both Medicare and Medicaid.
Funding for Medicaid vs. Medicare
Medicaid is jointly funded by the states and federal government, and is managed by the states. States provide up to half of the funding for the Medicaid program. In some states, counties also contribute funds. On the other hand, Medicare is funded entirely at the federal level.
More info at the Source
many argue against using Medicaid expansion as a means of covering more uninsured, because the states, left to their own devices, will screw the pooch and terribly underfund medicaid.
In many states, medicaid pays 30 cents on the dollar compared to medicare and so create de facto rationing. Docs don't want these low reimbursement and so won't take medicais patients.
in other states, like Alabama, the income to get in medicaid is so pathetically low, below the poverty line, that nobody gets covered.
The House bill brings medicaid reimbursment up to medicare levels, this making it very appealing and will bring more docs in. it will also make it more expensive, which is why states are worried about paying their share of the cost.
he knows.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
But everyone wants to go to HEAVEN
BUT NO ONE WANTS TO DIE!
The truth will set you free but can you handle the truth?
To be eligible for Medicaid you have to pass the "needs test" which means that you have to have less than $2,000 (in Georgia for example). If you have more than that, you are required to liquidate all assets until you reach that point. If you own a house,you are allowed to keep it, but when you die the state levies a lein on your house, and requires your heirs to sell it to repay all costs you incurres while receiving state aid.
He's actually right, no one wants to go on Medicaid - MediCARE is the preferred carrier.
Therefore People want Medicaid. Simple, Pure, Logic.
Can'tor: "No one (in the US Congress) wants to go on Medicaid (because we already have the best health care coverage money can buy at the expense of the American taxpayer)"
Eric Cantor also "misspoke" at the Health Care Summit ..
.. when he turned Obama's "bridge the gap" into "gap the bridge" ..
I thought that was appropriate. Obama wants to build a bridge. Cantor wants to replace it with a gap.
Eric The Can't-er: "No We Can't!"
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The "gap the bridge" flub is in the last 15 seconds of this clip:
Obama and Cantor at Health Care Summit
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
... TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH - MORE PERKS FOR THE CEO'S!!!
That should fix it.
If you need funds to pay for essentials, you have a revenue problem
If you need funds to pay for frivolity, you have a spending problem
...that for some inexplicable reason, Republicans cannot manage to come up with a satisfactory explanation for the fact that only three million new jobs were created during the entire time that George W. Bush was in the White House? Even the Wall Street Journal, which leaned decidedly to the right even before Rupert Murdoch took over, has acknowledged this. This figure puts Bush dead last out of all the presidents in well over fifty years in terms of new jobs created during his administration -- despite the fact that the Republican Party (which supposedly favors business) also held both houses of Congress for half of those years and despite the tax cuts favoring the wealthy which were supposedly intended to stimulate new job growth. So why such a poor showing?
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
The grease ball little rat doing what he does best , lie . I've never been prone to violence but some just make you want to knock their teeth down their throat .
"The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all."
Nobody really wants to be on Medicaid ! No, really ! Everyone would like to have a nice, well paying job, a fat savings & 401K account, and enough discretionary loose change to have a nice gold-plated health care insurance policy. So, in that context nobody really wants to be on Medicare !
But Mr. Eric Cantor, if you think that everyone is in such financial "high cotton", then you are either delusional, a complete idiot, an "ivory tower" cretin totally detached from reality, or a sociopathic misogynistic liar. I say this because I am a "nobody", and I would love to be able to qualify for and be on Medicaid -- I don't and I am not ! And considering that I have more empathy in my little finger than you have in your whole body, I am certain that there are many more "nobodies" who are in the same / similar circumstances.
Additionally, Mr. Eric Cantor, I would like to add that I am glad that you are not my Virginia Representative, because I would be working day and night to have you recalled from the Congress, You are a sorry excuse for a Virginian, and an even sorrier excuse for a human being -- you make me ashamed to be from the same Commonwealth.
Of course, that very same lack of qualities, like empathy, compassion, and humanity make you eminently suited to be a hypocritical sociopathic misogynistic Republican -- congratulations, asshole !
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-- John F. Kennedy
he's part of the same species.
I do. My husband does.
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If the government starts spending its money on things like healthcare then the rich will not be able to embezzle all the governments money.
Bingo, no further explanation needed. Spot on! More money for the poor just impedes the predatory capitalists in their quest to have it all....and we can't have that can we!?
When Cantor says: "No One Wants to Go on Medicaid"
What he means is: No Rich People Want to Go on Medicaid. And they don't want to allow anybody else to go on it either.
Now!
Republicans are liars and simply cannot be trusted.
in a republic the elected reps are a reflecton of the voters.
in a nutshell most of america is an immoral society
until we americans look into a mirror and see this in oursleves nothing much will change in wash.
we have money for our war machine but not for the sick and needy.
if that is the the defintion of immoral society? what is?
the cantor's of america have clear sailing in an immoral society.
dont give the demos any credit they know exactly what they are doing.
they will blame their failures on the repubs.
they are bought and paid for by the same corp fascism as the repubs.
they are giving americans a lap dance.
at least the repubs are up front as who they represent.
only the dumbed down dont see what they are.
now the demos voters the so called smart folks the demos reps have pulled the wool over their eyes.
why do you think the demos look spineless?
in the end they know they must cater to the corp fascists for money for their reelections and pretend to represent main street the working folks.
more immoral than the repubs.
why do you think obama has secret meetings with these corp fascists.
You can cover one hell of a lot of willing and eager complicity under the disguise of spinelessness and incompetence.
wow. Nice.
I don't waste my cash on that stuff, but I sure understand how our society is addicted to the metaphor as you note.
And that is exactly what the public option coupled electronic medical files with access to these files by all providers would do.
You repugs just can't stand the thought of getting these money sucking rip off insurance companies, your friends) out of the loop.
FUCK ERIC C*NTOR!!
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
That's true in the alternate fox nation universe. at least until one of them needs it. then, not so much. These people become more thoroughly disgusting everyday.
You know, this generalization that the right is using when addressing the press is really getting old...
they walk up to the podium and say "Americans don't want this, Americans show us time after time in the polls that this wrong for America"...etc...etc..
What they should be saying is "The Americans I know...or the Polls I look at on fox , say....."
Americans know the press is in on this b/s too...
It's an old marketing b/s line..." Everybody's in agreement, everyone wants one of these..don't be left out"...etc...etc...etc...
But the shit Cantor and his followers ( which are in the dozens) want for America, maintains the status quo, and does nothing to improve the lives of Americans in general.....can't pull yourself up by your bootstraps if you don't have any boots...
Yes please! I've spent over 200,000 on health care so far during my working life. I've made claims in the neighborhood of 25,000 (babies, minor surgery that sort of thing). In other words I've helped to make several BC/BS execs very wealthy. To make a living on healthcare is fine, to make a profit is immoral. That's all there is to it. Profit is the difference between chicken nuggets or actual chicken in the nursing home. Profit is the unnecessary MRI. Profit is a guy like Frist claiming to speak "as a doctor" when in fact he is the beneficiary of one of the largest for profit health care conglomerates in the world. The America we like to believe is ours was taken away from us some time ago. What we are seeing now is the start of something horrible. I guess we should have paid better attention when we were reading Animal Farm and Brave New World...
It is truly an indictment of our educational, mass communication and government institutions that someone this mind numbingly stupid can be elected to high office.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Where is this guy elected from? What is the neighborhood like? what is his background...I'm guessing private schools and expensive higher education facilities that kept him out of touch with reality.
stephen
Eric Cantor is a spoiled rotten rich kid who never had to do without anything. He is as ignorant of working-class American life as a pampered poodle.
When I was hospitalized for a week, with $19 to my name and no insurance, the county hospital tried to get me on Medicaid retroactively, so they could be reimbursed. In TN, you must have at least one child or be on SSI to qualify, and I didn't. I mortgaged my house to them, and eventually forfeited it to pay the bill.
In GA, rural counties run non-profit medical clinics with sliding scale fees, and treat Medicaid patients without hassling them.
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