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Keith Olbermann talked to Sam Seder about this report from The Hill where it looks like the DSCC is cutting their losses with Blanche Lincoln in Arkansas who is about 20 points behind her Republican challenger. As Keith and Sam discussed, it's expected for the party to back incumbents as they did here, but there was no excuse for the antagonistic attitude towards the unions for them backing Halter. He was the better candidate and would have had a better chance of winning than Lincoln. They would have been better off listening to their base in this case.

And Bill Clinton was one of the worst out there campaigning for Lincoln. I didn't post any of the video back in June because about all I really could have mustered at the time would have been one bleeped expletive after the other ending with telling him to bite me. I was really angry after watching him out on the stump for Lincoln. How's that union bashing working out for you now Bill?

Looks like the unions were not the ones wasting their money, the party establishment was. And now they're throwing their hands up in the air and admitting she can't win. But then we knew that back when we were backing Bill Halter. No one can say he'd have won either but he would have had a better chance than Lincoln does and Halter might have generated some enthusiasm from the base to vote for him. It looks like Arkansas is going to get a Republican that has an R behind their name instead of a D this time around.

DSCC must decide where to cut losses as tough races add up:

Democratic leaders face tough decisions on how much to spend on the campaigns of Sen. Blanche Lincoln (D-Ark.) and other party candidates whose chances for winning in November seem dim.

Money that goes to Lincoln rather than Democrats thought to have better odds at the polls may be seen as wasted. And it could upset one of the party’s biggest financial supporters, labor unions, which spent millions in an unsuccessful attempt to defeat her in the primary.

Four public polls this month showed the two-term incumbent, who chairs the Agriculture Committee, trailing her Republican challenger by an average of more than 20 points.

Where to prioritize Lincoln’s race is one of several difficult decisions Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee (DSCC) Chairman Robert Menendez (N.J.) has to make to fend off an anticipated anti-incumbent wave in November. Read on...

Transcript from last Friday's Countdown below the fold.

OLBERMANN: The Democratic party establishment may be facing the very real possibility that the incumbent senator in Arkansas, Blanche Lincoln, cannot win. In our third story tonight, the fight or lack thereof to retain that seat and the implications for the Democratic strategy at large. The Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee is beginning to face such tough choices, like whether to spend money on Senator Lincoln‘s campaign, when polls over the past month place her about 20 points behind her Republican opponent.

An unnamed senior aide on the Democratic Senatorial Committee telling “The Hill,” quote “Lincoln won‘t get millions and millions of dollars, but she‘ll get more than a token. She might get more if she tightens up the race.” Comparing Senator Lincoln to another incumbent, Senator Boxer of California, “we‘ll spend on Boxer. She‘ll get the money she needs. A Republican senator from Arkansas? We can deal with that. A Republican senator from California? That‘s not going to happen.”

The Democratic strategist helping with Senator Lincoln‘s campaign, Robert McClarty (ph) said that internal polling shows a closer race. You may recall that the chairman of the DSCC, Senator Robert Menendez, had been typical among the Democratic party establishment in calling Senator Lincoln the best candidate for the general election back when there was still a chance of supporting somebody else. Namely Lincoln‘s Democratic primary opponent, Arkansas Lieutenant Governor Bill Halter. After Halter‘s narrow loss, an unnamed White House official said, quote, “organized labor just flushed 10 million dollars of their member‘s money down the toilet on a pointless exercise.”

Let‘s bring in political satirist Sam Seder, co-author of “Fubar, America‘s Right Wing Nightmare.” Sam, good evening.

SAM SEDER, AUTHOR, “FUBAR”: How are you, Keith?

OLBERMANN: This is the flash point—one of the flash points of party regulars versus progressives. And I‘m guessing the progressives are being proved correct in Arkansas. Would Halter be fairing better than 20 points down?

SEDER: I mean, all the evidence points to that. I mean, I think prior to the primary, Halter had better numbers against Boozman. And like you mentioned, Lincoln‘s numbers haven‘t moved at all. And he had better favorables. So I think there‘s every reason to believe. Plus, you would have had all the union support.

OLBERMANN: Reading the tea leaves, is the establishment, which now decided that that was not going happen, that she was the best candidate and Bill Halter was some sort of interloper—are they now abandoning Blanche Lincoln to her fate?

SEDER: Yes, I think when you see a story like that in “The Hill” saying that she‘s not going to get a token amount, it usually means she‘s going to get a token amount. I mean, I think it‘s pretty obvious. A story like this comes out. It‘s basically setting the table, unless something dramatic happens.

OLBERMANN: Obviously, something dramatic can happen. The polls can change. The majority leader, Mr. Reid, is an example of somebody who is now fairing much better in his own re-election efforts, albeit against a—the seven veils of the Tea Party being unwrapped in Nevada with good old Mrs. Engel. Is there time for Senator Lincoln to turn this around when it‘s 20 points?

SEDER: I suppose theoretically. But that‘s the point. There is no Sharron Angle in Arkansas. And short of like a—some time of bathroom scandal, I just don‘t see how she does it. The polls haven‘t moved in three or four months.
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OLBERMANN: What was—in retrospect is there any explanation for that antagonistic right after the primary about organized labor just flushed 10 million dollars of their member‘s money down a toilet in a pointless exercise? Any explanation for why anybody in the White House, unless they were a Republican mole or somebody left over from the Bush administration, why anybody would say that about the unions or the voters in Arkansas who supported Lieutenant Governor Halter?

SEDER: I guess because they‘re not smart. I mean, you know, the bottom line is that had Democrats listened to their base, they would have a better candidate there. And you look on the Republican side, they listened to their base, and they‘ve actually helped the Democrats out. You have Paul and Angle, and that‘s the most interesting dynamic between the two parties‘ establishment.

OLBERMANN: In a bigger picture, the election cycle was obviously unfavorable to incumbents long before the last couple of weeks when the polls got so dramatic in Arkansas. Is the Democratic party, the hierarchy, now going to wish that it had not so automatically backed incumbent during the primary phase, and, as you suggest, listened to the base or just listened to what was being said about Blanche Lincoln in Arkansas?

SEDER: I suppose, but I can‘t imagine they‘re going to admit that. I mean, the fact is that the base was basically supporting a guy like Halter not just because he was more progressive, but because they saw him he had a better chance of winning. So now they‘re stuck with Blanche Lincoln, and, you know, she‘s off voting against health care, voting against—or to maintain George Bush‘s tax cuts. I would hope they had some remorse, but I can‘t imagine they would ever express it.

OLBERMANN: Is there any lesson, do you think, the hierarchy has learned out of that?

SEDER: No. They could have, but I don‘t think they will. I think there‘s too many people who have too much pride. And they—frankly, they have to maintain some measure of we were right, so that, you know, they maintain their power in the administration.

OLBERMANN: Plus, the number one job of being an incumbent is to make sure incumbents stay incumbent. Sam Seder, great thanks. Have a great weekend.

SEDER: Thank you. You too, Keith.

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Wasn't Blanche Lincoln one of those blue dog Dems that we were gonna get?

Gee...who campaigned for her. Ohhh...riiiight. It was Bill Clinton. He has some affiliation with the DLC if I recall.

Hmmm...if memory serves...Mr. Clinton also told us lefties to "get in line", didn't he?

Hmmmmmm...now what did Robert Gibbs say today?


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RobertD's picture

Oh...right.

I guess we're all supposed to rush out and vote for Ms. Lincoln so we don't lose the seat huh.

Is that the strategy...make us worry about losing a seat, so we actually vote for shitty candidates simply because they are Democrats?


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katy's picture

if not, why not?

Blanche won the primary.

The Dems are conceding the seat. Not gonna throw good money after bad.


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docb's picture

we can hope --with this debacle and the his support of the sham in Colorado that slick willie has nailed his influence coffin shut!

He played a confidence game with Obama in Colorado and lost big time...Halter was said to be the one to beat the Gop..Once more snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory!

Lincoln is down 20% no use throwing away good money on a lame horse!

Handypants's picture

I'm not in Arkansas so I don't really care about the particulars of that state but I do think a majority in the senate is better than a minority.

Say what you will but "Majority leader McChinless" is a daunting prospect.


"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that!
" ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )

Why? He's a man of action! A war hero! He brings erections to proud attention in all real Americans.

Even women!


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djonan's picture

Oh lord, we have a Stephanie Miller listener...how can you possibly function without a sound drop?

What good is a majority when you behave like a Republican? It shows morons that there is no reason to vote for a Democrat because you get the same thing. If you act like a Democrat (i.e. look at the party platform) and vote like a Democrat you show the public a CLEAR difference and give them an actual choice when elections come around.

You see the real problem isn't shitty politicians like Blanche Lincoln, it's us progressives who won't stop complaining about them being shitty. Wait. WHAT?

RobertD's picture

"Looks like the unions were not the ones wasting their money, the party establishment was. And now they're throwing their hands up in the air and admitting she can't win."

There's going to be a lot of that this year, I'm afraid. Maybe the "party establishment" should've listened to its base after all.

Naaah...what do the dumb progressives know.

Buncha hippies with all these unrealistic ideals.


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RobertD's picture

And precinct cards.

Don't worry, after the next election both Parties will solve the unemployment problem.

They'll vote to reinstate the draft and declare war on Iran.


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sixandseveneights's picture

and did the GOP's bidding. May she go down in flames.

It's wonderful. Harry Reid can play statesman some more. He'll have a new GOP playmate to get all bipartisany with.


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sixandseveneights's picture

he had endless excuses for failure. What difference will a few less DINOs make.

I must admit that I will enjoy watching this traitorous bitch's concession speech.

If she takes out the time to make one. She can't waste time on such trivialities. Time is money to lobbyists.


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losing Blanche is like losing the flu.

But they mean it in a nice way.

Democrats suck corporate dick all day and night.

and secretly long to be asked out by Lindsay Graham.

DamOTclese's picture

She's a Bush regime sleeper, a traitors against America who votes along with our country's enemies.

madprogressive's picture

I have been ripping this administration after reading the comments from Gibbs, and they deserve it. But now that I've had a chance to settle down a bit, I see clearly now why they are so mad. They are losing their grip on the party and it scares the hell out of them. Along with this story, they have been wrong on just about everything that has come up the past 18 months. They were warned by liberal/progressive economists and activists the stimulus was too small and that it would come back to bite them. They were warned the milktoast health reform and financial regulation bills were not strong enough and wouldn't be received well by the public, and they were wrong. They were warned their coddling of insiders and big business would come back to bite them and it has. They were told by progressive activists and the unions Lincoln was the wrong candidate, they pushed back, and once again they were wrong. They were told they needed to take the Connecticut election more seriously, they didn't, and again they were wrong.

What we clearly have happeneing with this White House is they have been exposed, and they don't like it. They have tried a playing loose with the base strategy, proclaiming they were passing strong progressive legislation, while serving the interests of the people they were to regulate, and they were exposed. They are angry because they can no longer snow the base in believing their distortions and in some cases, outright lies.

The jig is up and they don't like it. Their gravy train has come to an end. They counted on us, the progressive base, behaving as we did during the Clinton years, and that was not to pay that much attention, and they could get away with setting up laws, regulations, and policies the continue to favor the rich and multinational corporations, while handing us crumbs.

Unfortunately for Obama and his people, we are not republicans, we actully think on our side of the aisle. We understand full well the role the Clinton administration played in the Great Recession of 2008. We were asleep at the wheel during the 90's, but we are wide awake now, and the inside the beltway crowd of Emanuel, Summers, Geithner, and other conservadems, including Obama, can no longer fool us. The biggest fear that crowd has, besides the 2010 elections, is an awakened, active progressive base pushing back on the centrist, pro-business policies of this administration. They don't want to veer to the left, because that is not in their financial interests. But they know as long as we call them to task, they have no choice but to recognize our dissatisfaction and respond to it with good policy.

I hate to say this about a Democratic president, but when looking at all of the pieces of the puzzle, this is the picture I come up with. If Obama were somehow able to pull himself from the grips of his advisors, he just might see it is in his best interest to listen to his base, not only for electoral success, but because he will truly go down in history as the transformative president he claims he wanted to be.

Donald Strong
Augusta, GA

I can't disagree with anything you've said, except for your last sentence.

This President is already headed toward lame duckdom. He's going to wind up with a divided Congress, an electorate that can't stand him, and basically no significant legislation passed in his last two years, and then very possibly down in defeat in 2012.

The kind of change he needs to make may not be possible, and I don't think he has the political will to try.


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Paul's picture

Well said, though I don't think that it's so much an issue of Obama being in the evil grip of his advisors. He picked advisors who best represent his own thinking and agenda. The man owns his failures. To all indications, the man is not a Democrat. His allegiance to the needs of the People, to Main Street and to the Constitution appear to be entirely conditional: He will look after those needs only if and when they don't conflict with the interests of the rich and powerful, the corporations or with the continuing emplacement and consolidation of the most advanced police state on the planet. He and his administration do not serve us as a matter of considered choice. He is only going to do that minimum-most amount of work on our behalf that is required to maintain his public pretense that he gives a shit about us at all. When it gets down to it, the only substantive difference from Bush that I can see (aside from his Supreme Court picks - with whom it's still too early to know if they aren't themselves corporatist/fascism friendly sleepers) is in the rhetoric that is deployed. He has a far better command of the English language. That's about it.

Just my 2 cents' worth.

What is happening to Lincoln is the same god damn thing that will happen to Obama. Take a dump on your base like you have been doing and your base will sleep. The only question is if the Obamas will learn from this.

they'll learn...
if history teaches us anything,
it's that they'll learn...

the wrong lesson.

RayMD's picture

We hope you don't think we're serious about changing corporate ownership of the party.

Oh, and Rahm Emmanuel, have a really juicy shit sandwich you corporate whore!

sluggocat's picture

as well as policy. The Washington Democrats don't have either.

1. Obama and the Democrats (at least the establishment) is more interested in trying to bring Republicans on board to show "bipartisanship" than to get anything done.
2. Obama and the Democrats are implementing policies that are more like Bush than Bush (shredding the Constitution on individual rights - allowing the President to decide what American citizens to execute without a trial or changes).
3. Obama and the Democrats are playing the nonsense Deficit Games being pulled by the Republicans and actually discussing reducing/eliminating Social Security.

No wonder voters are either staying home or buying into the Crazy Talk being spouted by the Republican/Tea-baggers. They really don't have a choice of anything approaching a progressive platform.

November is starting to look really ugly....

SEDER: No. They could have, but I don‘t think they will. I think there‘s too many people who have too much pride. And they—frankly, they have to maintain some measure of we were right, so that, you know, they maintain their power in the administration.

Sam is spot on. Good luck you DLC yellow belly sellouts. Your turncoat traitor Lincoln is going down in flames in Arkansas because you didn't listen to your base. You thought you could have it all with your cowardly centrism and equivocating weasel words. You might fool the robotic dupes of the GOP but not intelligent people like us.

Either clean up your act or don't count on our support---ever.

And well said, Donald Strong.


"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."

Robert F. Kennedy

Midtown Maniac's picture

The Dim leadership is stuck because their crooked

They are pissing on us because they can. We are always voting for the lesser evil and they are counting on us to continue doing so. They, and this is what Gibbs rant was about, are disappointed in us for not shouting from the rooftops about all the things they have passed in the last 18 months. The problem is, they aren't shouting it either. Too many people don't even know what has passed. They have only heard the bullshit from the right.
People that are paying attention are aware of the knob polishing they have been giving to the party of no. Keith had a great segment on this tonight about how they caved and caved and in fact let the republicans chair the committees and started processes from the "middle" instead of asking for the ultimate and THEN bargaining down.
I can't see that there will any difference in the make up of the senate without Blanche since she voted with the party of no consistently anyway.


We could certainly slow the aging process down if it had to work its way through Congress.
- Will Rogers

katy's picture

The problem is, they aren't shouting it either. Too many people don't even know what has passed. They have only heard the bullshit from the right.

i've been yelling for months "where are the surrogates? where are the cheerleaders? !!!"

i get the corporate media does not invite that message, but the general silence from team obama is deafening...

aw hell, the media conspires against any good... i know that...

keith's comment tonight was excellent.

ALL cable is NOT the same.

I can't see that there will any difference in the make up of the senate without Blanche since she voted with the party of no consistently anyway.

True. She was the Ben Nelson of Arkansas. She was never even a solid Democratic vote, and she filibustered a lot of legislation along with her Republicans friends.

This was such a waste. The White House backs Lincoln, trashes Halter, spits on unions for supporting Halter (who could have beaten the Republican in the fall), and now they're cutting Lincoln loose because the "professional left" was right all along, but was ignored.

Paul's picture

because there's nothing really to shout about. They've sold us out at every opportunity, in preference to giving sociopaths everything their dark little hearts desire. Then they have the cynical audacity to call it "reform" or "healthcare" or whatever.
Screw 'em.

BlueSam's picture

who continue to fuck themselves over deserve to be fucked over by others.

Is this the fate of the DSCC, of the left-siders' base, of the DNC, of the Democratic Party?

It is if they keep fucking themselves and us over.

Some things will never change , the Dems once again snatching defeat from the jaws of victory , the fools don't know who got them elected , who their base is was .


"The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all."

professional left? If only labor would get with the program and become DLC/DNC/DSCC/DCCC-acceptable new "Democrats", like good ole Bribe-O-Crat Blanche Lincoln. Now that's a candidate of the non-pesky/non-annoying persuasion!

Tax the Rich's picture

The second part of the revolt is starting; getting rid of the DLC - republicans in our own ranks.

Obama is the worst kind of sociopath. He knows what the people want, he knows what the problem is, yet he threw in with the fascist oppressors, immediately eliminating Howard Dean and any other real democrat who brought Obama and the party back to power.

He took a once in a lifetime people's mandate/movement, and turned us right back over to the same fascists' we wanted neutered. The SOB!

The worse thing about all of this, is that liberal's will be blamed for the failure of Obama's republican policies!

2012 primary season may finally be the end-all blood bath for the DLC. To counter a real liberal democrat challenge to Oclueless, the corporate fascists' may trot out Hillary as a "progressive" candidate.

Good luck with that one DLC.


If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.

Absolutely. That is the message that the DLC will be sending through its proxies in the MSM and blogosphere.


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401k Train Wreck's picture

... after the Democratic Party loses there sixty seat majority in the Senate, Barak Obama will either do a Specter-switch or the Lieberman-shuffle!! That's right folks - he'll declare as a Republican or an Independent - completely confounding his left wing opponents! Pure genius!

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