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Oh yes, who better to bring in than Hank Paulson and Alan Greenspan to ask how we get the economy and the job market turned around in the United States? I know I always want to hear from the people who helped take a wrecking ball to something for advice on how to put it back together. Paulson says we need more certainty with how the financial markets are regulated for job growth. I'd love for someone to explain to me how letting the bankers and Wall Street know that we don't want them to act like casinos with our money any more has anything to do with whether we have businesses hiring Americans or not. Both of these guys didn't think we needed any regulations when they were running the show. Now that our economy is in the ditch, David Gregory thinks we should be taking their advice on how to fix it.

DAVID GREGORY: We're back and joined now by Henry Paulson, the Former Treasury Secretary and Alan Greenspan, Former Chairman of the Federal Reserve. Welcome both of you back to-- Meet The Press. Dr. Greenspan, here was the headline in the New York Times yesterday, after that Friday jobs report. And it was this. Jobless rate falls to 9.7 percent giving hope that the worst is over. Does this jobs report signal a turn around?

ALAN GREENSPAN: It doesn't signal a turnaround, but what it does say that a turnaround, which has already occurred is moving, but not in any aggressive manner.

DAVID GREGORY: And-- and-- Secretary Paulson, if you look at the jobs lost since the recession began, 8.4-- million jobs over that time horizon. The question is-- what's gonna cause a turnaround. When do you see this-- this jobless rate actually stay in the single digits?

HENRY PAULSON: Well, the economy is clearly recovering. And I have-- great confidence that-- we have such a dynamic private sector in this-- in this country, that they're eventually gonna begin creating jobs. Now, one of the factors, not the only factor, but one of the factors that will help is more certainty-- with regard to-- to actions out of Washington. And for instance-- certainty with regard to-- financial regulatory reform will-- will help.

DAVID GREGORY: And in-- in terms of not just regulatory reform-- we'll talk about, Dr. Greenspan, but also just the idea of-- the notion of what the Government can do now with regard to a jobs bill, other things, to bring down unemployment more steadily.

ALAN GREENSPAN: I think we have to start with the focus of economic activity. In other words, jobs are created by having something to do. You see, you can't put jobs before economy activity. And I would therefore argue what would be most useful at this particular stage is cutting taxes on small business, because they are the big creator of jobs. But they won't hire anybody if they don't have any business. So, you have to get them to act in a manner, which creates the types of economic activity which draw in an ever-increasing demand for (UNINTEL).

DAVID GREGORY: And that is a question in terms of what's happening out there. Where-- where is the impetus for businesses to start hiring again.

HENRY PAULSON: Well, again, I-- I just believe so much in how dynamic our economic system and our economy is. The one thing I know for sure is that with the economy recovering, ultimately, the private sector will do what needs to be done and create opportunities and jobs. I-- I agree with Alan that the-- that when you look at a jobs bill, the-- the sorts of things that Congress should be focusing on are temporary incentives for business to-- to hire.

DAVID GREGORY: And yet, is that enough? If there's not-- a business willing to take the risk to extend-- expand?

HENRY PAULSON: Well, again, as I said earlier, part of it is confidence and psychology. What's going on in-- in side the-- the head of the CEO. And-- and how comfortable does he-- he or se-- she feel about the-- the future? But again, it's very difficult to sit here and say, "Now, where is the economic activity gonna come from? Which area? Which business?" But it always does come. And it will come. We have stable-- financial markets. And a recovering economy. It's gonna take some time, though.

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Stupid Git's picture

I guess Bernie Madoff couldn't join them?

Seriously, Greenspan actually admitted everything he believes is wrong!

Well not everything, but a lot. I will never forget it. If you saw the testimony, Greenspan looked so utterly shaken, even frightened, and near tears, it seemed more like a crisis in religious rather than economic faith. As happens with most people who go through such, he is now gradually rationalizing, dipping into denial, selectively forgetting and remembering, all to get back to his "faith" in "free range capitalism." This belief system enables him feel good about himself and what he has done with his life as well as relieving any guilt about how his actions/theories effected others. It also gives him a way in his mind to rationally connect the dots so he can pretend his life and the world are predictable and therefore safe and less aniety inducing. I think he really stared into the chaotic abyss and is now scampering back to the safety of his old beliefs...as do most of us if we catch so much as a glimpse. The old Greenspan is re-emrging. Hopefully more humble and wise...or not.

Steve E's picture

is another example, but he was never close to tears for all the dead in Viet Nam. Warmonger extraordinaire.

Greenspan "seemed more like a crisis in religious rather than economic faith".

I will never forget watching Greenspan's shocking testimony before Congress. When debating the causes of the financial meltdown (especially with those blaming the welfare queens), I've always urged everyone to google his testimony on the Internets, it's an astounding mea culpa.

The fact that his testimony has never been covered extensively by the MSM is amazing to me. We could have learned something.

Alice X - Chomsky Nader's picture

Another phony jobs report and two of the architects of the greatest heist (phase I and phase II) in the history of the world.

Who wouldn't be impressed.


statusquObama, change you can only pretend in

docb's picture

like a stone..These are the people that got us in this mess..PLEASE!

The very act of having them on is indication of the conservative behind the issue viewpoint of this net!

VegasRage's picture

before I threw a stone at my monitor. Paulson is such a shill, in 5 years time their talking points will be proven to be nothing more than a terrible joke. None of us will laughing as we come to grips with the hardest of lessons yet to come.


Goodnight, Frau Blücher

Steve E's picture

already preparing for the civil disobedience. A lot of men are coming back from Iraq and Afghanistan all messed up but perfect recruits for police forces and outfits like Blackwater. Demonstrations will be classified as illegal and regarded as a terrorist act and bye, bye civil liberties for all time.

MountainMan23's picture

On the face of it ..

"Unemployment" at 9.7% is a drop in unemployment from 10.0% ..

But in the same month some 20,000 jobs were lost ..

All that means is that not only were 20,000 jobs lost, but 3 tenths of a percent of the "work force" (people with jobs or looking for a job) gave up looking for jobs.

That's progress ???


When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?

Not soon enough!

garcia's picture

Be positive!

Alice X - Chomsky Nader's picture

When the Bureau of Labor Statistics puts back the million or so unemployed they forgot last year, it will be close to 11%.


statusquObama, change you can only pretend in

bigironal's picture
Wow

Greenspan & Paulsen giving advice on getting the economy humming again! This coming from 2 clowns who should be in prison instead of beating their collective gums about anything and what can you say about the human barf bag that is David Gregory! I haven't been able to stomach this hand job since he decided to dance with that fat slob Karl Rove!Yuck!!

Greenspan looks like M. Valdemar. That he would get any airtime at all is a travesty. His day is gone. His wad is shot. He should be retired--to his coffin, obviously.

VegasRage's picture

Let's take advice from the serpents who got us into this mess with their grand experiment.

How would that turn out? This picture is worth 1000 words.

Gregory should have put them in pillory right there.


Goodnight, Frau Blücher

cund_gulag's picture

Is like having Rush and Karl on to talk about diets and political ethics.
Gregory is such a fool. He makes me miss Timmeh. And believe me, that would take a lot!

kasinca's picture

David Gregory only knows how to use RNC talking points. He always begins with what the wingers say and then asks the democrats to prove their lies wrong. I have never watched MTP since he has been on it because I saw the way he interviewed on NBC and MSNBC.

project's picture

I have been in the construction business all my life and the one thing I have learned is there is no profit to be made. If you bid for a job you have two chances to get the job. You can miss something or intentionally take a loss. This is where we are. Now there is not even many jobs to bid on. The last one I was the low bidder on they decided not to do. The people of America are fucked by the big money boys who stole our money to fix their problems.
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness!

Makes perfect sense in Village Logic(TM). You always have to hire the people whose incredible stupidity and ineptitude created the mess to fix it. Look at the Wall Street banks.

project's picture

we the people have been putting the same old problem filled ignorant people back in washington over and over again.
I guess all the money the big boys put into it kind of obscures the view particularly for the ones of us that are not to bright. The republicans! It is a shame that people so stupid should be allowed to vote, I mean if they can't tell what is good for themselves how will they recognise if something is good for someone else?
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness!

Alice X - Chomsky Nader's picture

I try to look on the bright side.

It is a shame that people so stupid should be allowed to vote

It is a shame that people who vote are allowed to be so misinformed…

I am for improved free PUBLIC education, top to bottom. And the reinstatement of the fairness doctrine.

Plus universal adult suffrage.


statusquObama, change you can only pretend in

MountainMan23's picture

1) Greenspan CLEARLY states that the turnaround "has already occurred" but Gregory barges on, asking Paulson "what's gonna cause a turnaround."

WHAT AN IDIOT !!

2) The "tax cuts for small businesses" that Greenspan recommends to create more jobs is EXACTLY what Obama has proposed to both houses of congress - but does Gregory say, "Wow! So Obama's got this right!"???

Of course not ..


When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?

Not soon enough!

Obviously, Greenspan failed to submit his answers in time for Gregory to revise his script.

Margaret's picture

That's why I don't watch him.


Barack Obama: Change we can only imagine

An Average Joe's picture

It's Howdy Doody Time.
It's Howdy Doody Time.
Bob Smith and Howdy Do
Say Howdy Do to you.
Let's give a rousing cheer,
Cause Howdy Doody's here,
It's time to start the show,
So kids let's go!

I can't take David Gregory. He may as well be an actual puppet.


"Your lips move but I can't hear what you're saying..."-------Roger Waters, "Comfortably Numb"

Margaret's picture

Don't insult an empty wooden headed character by comparing him with Gregory.


Barack Obama: Change we can only imagine

Cat Atomic's picture

I was surprised to hear these two self-important twats say that. Really, I am both shocked and awed.

Gee, nothing dredging up a couple of discredited relics from the past. Way to go Dave. This is all the more reason I stopped watching MTP. It was already going down tubes when Russert was there, but Gregory sucks. Talk about a corporate tool.

not that a university degree is necessarily worth anything, but I have trouble believing this guy has enough econ knowledge to balance a checkbook, much less a credible source as to who's the best economist for the job here.

Isn't he friends w/ Mrs Greenspan?

Margaret's picture

At Villager U


Barack Obama: Change we can only imagine

MountainMan23's picture
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Wikipedia: David Michael Gregory

Gregory graduated from American University in 1992. While there, he worked for the campus television station, ATV, and received a degree in International Studies from the School of International Service.


When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?

Not soon enough!

Steve E's picture

Feedle-dumb and Feedle-dee.

VinnieTheSnake's picture

Another idiot in our wonderful media.

to present two sides . . .


Corruption favors the wealthy.

garcia's picture

God knows how many millions this asshole pocketed and he thinks he can do it again? Fuking joke!

Medical Diagnosis by Video's picture

because he is a Main Stream Whore Media TeeVee talker, and not a progressive journalist.

MikeBoyScout's picture

Fluffy should not be taking advice from these 2 Great Recession clowns.

What does President John "Grandpa Walnuts" McCain have to say, Fluffy?
Are the fundamentals of our economy still strong?
Or do we need to bring more fundamentalist experts like Mooselini to policy boards.

jimkhm's picture

What a grand idea. Did you know Andrea Mitchell on NBC last night said the Teabaggers were responsible for getting Scott Brown elected?!

Oh and by the way did you know that the best color is Green!

cmhmd's picture

...through goofballs like this and still screws up the moral and intellectual life of America.

rmb's picture

Questions for Paulsen/Greenspan:

Has your net worth increased in the last 10 years?
Any foreign bank accounts?
Do you believe crimes may have been committed?
Have Wall Street CEOs manipulated The New York Stock Exchange with insider trading?

The new era of Sunday morning hosts is butt kissing, pretty boy journalism.


This is not my father's America

flav1's picture

and Mr. Andrea Mitchell.
What a load of worthless crap.

WillofthePeople's picture

Paulson reminds me of a three year old making up excuses after being caught stealing cookies... especially after he $cored hundred$ of million$ from structured finance while at Goldman.

Greenspan is responsible for more compulsive and pathological lying that has destroyed this country than any other schmuck.

Google this: " Wall Street’s Rip Off Business Model " to see what's still being done to us today.

Thanks Obama, Congress, and especially those Republicans for doing little to nothing. Our only solution is to stop whining and make the changes ourselves.


When are "We the People" going to start "EXERCISING our RIGHT to CONSENT" instead of whining, complaining & petitioning? www.RIGHTtoCONSENT.com

mikeeee's picture

is a repub sycophant through and through. It's amazing he could the interview while blowing two guys.

real_earl's picture

oh ...yeah .. United States of FUBAR ...


I'm Boycotting NewsCorp! Heres what not to buy: http://www.cjr.org/resources/index.php?c=news...

JohnnyBravo's picture

Shut the F*ck Up


NOBODY 2012

Disturbed Havok's picture

Weren't these two guys a big part of what helped to bring down our economy? You have Paulson who thought it was a good idea to give the big banks money without any stipulations and you have Greenspan who thought time and time again that cutting taxes was the greatest way in the world to stimulate the economy.

woodslight's picture

Next week the captain and the first mate of the Titanic on sailing through icebergs.

Peter G's picture

Find out what they think and don't do that.


Hasa Diga Eebowai

bmw 528's picture

When Gregory's guest will be Rick Wagoner of GM telling us how he rescued his company from bankruptcy and Jim Cramer boasting of his big payday by buying Bear Stearns stock.


"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."

Robert F. Kennedy

stewartm0205's picture

that we don't save enough and there is too much consumption I almost choked. The man has got an MBA for an Ivy League college, he couldn't be that stupid. And then I remember that Goldman Sachs doesn't make money from poor people. It makes money by ripping off rich people. The more excess wealth the rich have, the more money Goldman Sachs makes. Just remember that these people would burn America down to the ground and sell us into slavery if there was a buck in it for them.

LOL! At the end of the interview, both Paulson and Greenspan uniquivicably picked the Colts to win the Super Bowl.

Case closed.

follow the money's picture

Dont think so:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlQeTFfdaPM

would you trust this man, with your piggy bank?

Tax the Rich's picture

This is like all Lions fans having to now listen to the wisdom of Matt Millen when we watch college football on Saturdays.

People in Michigan just hang on his every observation, because he was so brilliant as Lions prsident. WTF?


If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.

Of course. David Gregory is a typical villager, don't rock the boat, stick with the insider idiots that got us into this mess.

We need a revolution in this country simply to clean the Beltway media out.


Democratic Party progressive, Vietnam veteran and proud Union member for 41 years

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