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As Keith notes, the Senators who hate the idea of a public option for health insurance sure didn't have any problem voting for a public option to protect the profits of insurance companies against too many flood claims.

OLBERMANN: The Republicans who oppose health care reform and the conservative Democrats who oppose a public option have deeply principled, philosophical objections to the concept of government insurance—except when insurance companies benefit from it, as you‘ll see in our fourth story tonight.

The big arguments against the public option have been these: that the government is incapable of running an insurance plan, that the free-market provides consumers with better choices, that socialized insurance will have unfair advantages. But as Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist David K. Johnston recently reported, these arguments do not stop some of the big opponents of socialized insurance for voting for socialized insurance when that insurance is not for the wellbeing of people but of property and insurance companies.

After the president gave his national speech for health care reform, Louisiana Congressman Charles Boustany gave the Republican Party rebuttal targeting the public option, which Boustany calls “government-run health care.”

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REP. CHARLES BOUSTANY, LOUISIANA: It‘s clear the American people want health care reform, but they want their elected leaders to get it right. Most Americans wanted to hear the president tell Speaker Pelosi, Majority Leader Reid and the rest of the Congress that it‘s time to start over on a common sense, bipartisan plan, focused on lowering the cost of health care while improving quality. That‘s what I‘ve heard over the past several months in talking to thousands of my constituents. Replacing your family‘s current health care with government-run health care is not the answer. In fact, it will make health care much more expensive.

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OLBERMANN: Some blue dog House Democrats led by Stephanie Herseth Sandlin also oppose a public option. And when the Senate Finance Committee voted against including the option in its version of health care reform, Republicans were joined by a handful of Democrats including the committee chair, Max Baucus, who crafted the bill after conferring for weeks with the so-called “gang of six”: fellow Democrats Jeff Bingaman and Kent Conrad, Republicans Chuck Grassley, Mike Enzi and Olympia Snowe. The entire gang of six votes—casts their votes against the public option on Tuesday.

But each of them voted just last year in support of government-run insurance, that insurance however protects property. It is the National Flood Insurance Program created in 1968, because the free market decided it could not make money on that unpredictable risk called flooding. Government-run flood insurance is sold through private insurance companies but it is backed by the government and the government assumes all risk. Unlike the public option which relies on customer premiums, government flood insurance gets a subsidy—also known as a handout—from the government and it is mandatory for some people.

So given all the shouting over a public option, who could vote for mandatory taxpayer subsidized, anti- free market socialized flood insurance run by government bureaucrats? Every single politician I just named and most of Congress. Charles Boustany of Louisiana, along with 44 other Republicans, including going bipartisan on September 27th, 2007 to vote yea on the Flood Insurance Reform and Modernization Act. Karl Max applauded.

The entire “gang of six” on May 13th last year voting yea on the same act, quote, “to restore the solvency of the National Flood Insurance Program,” but also to expand socialized insurance to other property damage, quote, “to make available multi-peril coverage for damage resulting from windstorms and floods, and for other purposes.”

In the Senate where the public option is less popular than in the House, 92 senators voted to expand socialized property insurance. Consider the communist states that get the biggest handouts from socialized property insurance. North Carolina, Mississippi, Wisconsin, Florida, Illinois, Missouri, Indiana, Iowa, Louisiana, and the top socialized property insurance welfare state in the nation, “The People‘s Republic of Texas.” People‘s republic? Where 682,000 property owners have their handout for socialized property insurance, more than 36,000, scooping up $1.5 billion in claims last year alone.

Of course, it‘s not that some politicians don‘t care about the health of all Americans as much as they care about the wealth of those Americans who can‘t afford waterfront property. There is perhaps a less callous explanation: greed. It can‘t be principled because mandatory subsidized socialized property insurance is even more socialist than is the public option.

Preexisting conditions? No problem. You can get flood insurance even if you‘ve already been flooded, even if you‘ve chosen to live in a high-risk area, you can even get flood insurance after the diagnosis is in, even if you know there‘s a big rainfall or hurricane coming.

But what really matters to Congress is that insurance companies oppose the public option but they love mandatory socialized government-run property insurance.

According to the “New York Times,” Americas pay about $2.3 billion in flood premiums every year. Insurance companies get almost $1 billion out of that, almost half of it just for selling the policies, without a single dollar of their own at risk.

Congressional auditors found that private insurance companies make $327 million a year above their expenses.

So, thanks to the politicians who oppose the public option for people, we already have socialized government health care plans for the health of the insurance companies.



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"They" actually believed or where willing to risk a dumbed down and corporate dependent populace never even bringing a public option up.

Remember they're people too! - actually people+

Can we really hold these people responsible for the things they say and do?
Think about it. republicanism is a mental illness, that much I think we can agree on. If you are insane you are not responsible for the things you do by reason of insanity.
The big problem we have is that we have such a large number of insane people insane people in America by last count something like 25%.
Until we find some way to help these sycos we are screwed as a country, economicly, and security wise.
You have to realize that these people are a danger to us as well as themselves. They are simple as well as single minded. A very dangerous combination when you understand that the single minded part deals soully from the aspect of greed. It give you people that are perfectly willing to do or say anything for a dollar. the quintessential republican.
Might I suggest a short or long stay depending on which is needed at gitmo. It is warm and sunny, they can have rice and chicken and be treated just like bush and chenny would treat and prisoner, with cattle prods to your balls, while they rape your daughter, and a little waterboarding thrown in because they like it so much.
Any of you insane republicans ready for a vacation?

that these people have no minds of their own, no opinions that don't come from FOX or Limpballs the Junky, yet they want to tell all of Murka how to survive and then they let their appointed leaders attack the wrong countries, break the bank AND THEN throw what's left at rich CEO's on Wall Street.

It's almost fiction.

except for being insanely greedy.

‘Socialism’ and Sham in the Senate

Joe Conason here

Listening closely to the politicians with the most clout in the debate over health care, it is startling to discover how little they actually seem to know about the subject.

Ignorance rules, even among the bipartisan group of senators known as the “Gang of Six,” who supposedly have immersed themselves in the details of this life-and-death issue for many months. If they understood even the most basic facts about how the United States and other advanced countries provide and finance medical care, they simply could not utter the stupid comments that regularly emanate from their lips.

In the Conason article he said, "Sen. Kent Conrad tried to explain his fervent opposition to a “public option” by mentioning the way they do things abroad. The Democrat from North Dakota wanted to tell his “progressive friends” that we can achieve universal coverage, reduce costs—like all of the industrial nations that pay far less than we do—and get better results. Referring to systems in France, Germany, Belgium, Switzerland and Japan, he said, “All of them contain costs, have universal coverage, have very high-quality care and yet are not government-run systems.”

This is a good example of how little many members of Congress understand any issue outside of the beltway. If they really wanted to solve issues they would invite many different people from all parts of the health care debate. Instead, they select only a few people that they know will enforce the positions they plan to take.

By refusing to allow Single Payer advocates a seat at the bargaining table. People like Conrad are basically saying Single Payer is not worthy because it would take away from the $46 million Seanators rake in from the insurance industry without having to worry about mingling with the peasants begging for money and their vote all of them enjoy for re-election.

don't they all look pleased with themselves.

but Bush Co didn't waste time telling people to "go and spend time with family" if they were not in lockstep with the agenda I sometimes wonder about the Dems they almost seem to be "partners in crime" until Beck orders them to toss someone under the bus then they crack into action apparently. I really don't know what to think of this. I have to wonder who's really calling the shots.

It's very discouraging :(

but the fact remains Clinton understood job creation was the number one most important priority facing our country. Where is Obama's job creation task force?

Come on Evet. You must realize that the mess that Bush left us is so huge that it is almost impossible to get out of. IT will take another year or more. What the Bush administration did to this country cannot be stated in term that are too harsh. I can't come up with a strong enough term to describe what they did. All for greed. Too stupid to realize that they were screwing themselves along with everybody else. It is just unbelievable that these people could not see it coming.

the real problem is the Dems don't have guts to put America (Main Street)first before Big Business. They should have hit the ground running and turned everything Bush did UPSIDE DOWN. Just like Bush and the cons did in 2001.

Clinton did many great things for this country, but there is no excuse for him signing to abolish this act. He essentially opened the flood gates for the bankers to consolidate power, influence, and money over every institution in this country. Financiers and Wall Street have systematiclly drained any prosperity or savings people managed to accumulate in that period.

and Clintons mistake was trusting the patriotism of Wall Street and Big Finance which we all know was a huge mistake. These clowns have loyalty to NOTHING and NO ONE.

but to GREEN.

GATT
NAFTA

anyone!

Is it me or does anybody else get really angry when they see Chuck Grassley's mug. He just oozes stupidity. He is so used by the corporations that buy him and he just has no idea. He just does whatever they tell him because he has no idea. No clue. Says a lot about the people who elect him doesn't it?

BOA CEO this guy is walking away with a $53 million retirement pension package.

Yup but he is the type that tells Grassley what to do. Correct?

Also this Ken Lewis freak may be looking at jail time. It is a very real possibility.

The Thug asshole who ran against the Democratic asshole for the senate in my state in 2008, was CEO of Safeco. He got a $28m bonus for laying off 1700 people. That must have been a very proud moment for him. When he left Safeco to run for the senate, they gave him another $4m. $32 million for a family of four. How will they live with only $8m apiece?
He lost, but his legacy lives on.

"Mike!" (Campaign slogan for Mike McGavick, loser for WA senate seat, 2008)

Both look like they just drop to their knees and open an orifice every time they see an Armani suit walk in the room.

"Yessir, may I have another?"

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Wyden has a way to give states rights and as long as they have a provision that when a state provides care for a resident of another state it gets re-reimbursed. So when So. Carolinian's cram the interstates North in search of health care the more progressive states don't go broke.

It gets tiring dragging people out of their nostalgia for feudalism.

because it will bankrupt the hospitals in his state. Does anyone know anything about this?

How can you bankrupt a hospital? They have a captive audience.

they are obliged to pay them. If they have more outgo than income, they'll go bankrupt. Simple math.

Single payer/universal health/socialised medicine would keep that from happening, because the government would be the guarantor. The public option is a private/public 'partnership' w/ 'private' calling the shots. I can see why he'd be worried.

Thanks. It has to do with medicare reimbursement. The current formula rewards doctors for the quantity of patients they see and the number of procedures they order, rather than the quality of health care they deliver.

As a result of this, states that have a more efficient delivery system are penalized because they often receive lowere reimbursement rates than those states that are less efficient. The reimbursement rates in some states with less efficient health care systems are nearly double what they are in North Dakota.

The change to the medicare reimbursement formula is in the Senate Finance Bill.

First of all I like KO and agree with him on 99% of what he says although I wish he would have someone other then the yes men/women that he has on.

Anyway, I have worked in the insurance industry and I am actually flood policy certified. You talk about some boring stuff. You cannot get a flood policy if an eminent flood is coming your way. There is a wait period before the policy takes affect. It is something like 30 or 45 days if I remember right. He also implies (in my opinion) that you can have a flood and then get a flood policy to pay for your loss. This is 100% incorrect. The way he phrased it anyone can come up with many different meanings. So technically what he said can be correct but it is a grey area in my opinion.

After all that, I liked his segment on the Public Option vs the Flood Policy.

insurance in areas that continue to flood regularly? I'm not sure if this is still done, but weren't many areas built in low-lying areas (probably shouldn't have been located there anyway) rebuilt (sometimes multiple times) with flood insurance? Seems that I remember stories about such locales (maybe 60 Minutes?) somewhere.

Congress is the biggest whorehouse in the USA, "paid off" traitors occupy it. The MIC pull their little jaws and hands with invisible strings. They do NOT represent the people, only corporations. Therefore, we have taxation WITHOUT representation. I believe there was a war some years ago over that.

Anyone?

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Socializing risk and privatizing profits.

The banks knew they had nothing to lose. Nobody had anything to lose, except the public.

That's why the top 1% now owns more wealth than the bottom 95%. It wasn't enough that they:

1) cut taxes on the wealthy

2) cut corporate taxes

3) avoided paying taxes altogether by basing themselves offshore

4) cut costs by shipping jobs offshore

5) cut costs by hiring slaves and avoiding regulation offshore

6) boosted profits through monopolization of whole industries

7) boosted profits by fabricating wars

8) shifted vast sums of public money to private pockets through 401k's

9) shifted vast sums of public money to private institutions through bailouts

Now they're trying to boost profits by forcing everyone to pay for insurance. Nothing will ever be enough for these faceless monarchs.

Private corporations are the most un-American entities in America. Until we realize that, Americans will continue to lose their quality of life.

through 401k's"

I'm with you on the other eight, and probably on this one too.
Could you elaborate briefly on how this was done?

The widespread belief, institutionalized by the powers that be, is that the only way you can make ends meet when you retire is to put as much as you can into a 401k, as if it's some sort of long-term bank account with guaranteed returns. Thus, a guaranteed injection of vast sums of money every single month into private companies, which have benefitted nicely from this scheme, while average folks might actually be better off putting their money in the bank, as we've seen recently. The system is gamed.

Thanks for the clarification.

401Ks can be a long term bank account, if you elect to treat them that way. Few people do.

I've always believed that the day traders are able to sell because the 401K managers are buying on autopilot. They tell you to buy and hold for the long term, which used to be the conventional wisdom, as the largest demographic group, the baby boomers, continued to add value to the market with more and more investments. Now, that group is retiring, and starting to cash out. Bush's SSI privatization was supposed to rescue that cash drain out of the market, but since it didn't happen, the market's long term future is a much flatter curve than we saw up until recently. As population continues to grow, there may be enough money going in to offset the 401ks being depleted by retirees, if there are enough jobs for enough folks to prosper. That's a very big if.

i can't believe it's not all over the place... (well, not really...)

'bout time it got HERE (at C&L)!

but only 41 comments...

NO Public Option No MONEY NO VOTE

You assholes have control We put you in OFFICE now we will Take you out of OFFICE

1. Isn't the FDIC a government-run bank insurance system? How many Republicans have attacked the FDIC lately?

2. Republicans are not conservatives. They are tribal loyalists. They are right-wing authoritarians with loyalty to their tribe. They are transparently anti-American when it suits their purposes.

Anyone can look back at 8 years of President Cheney and see how much of our tax dollars were fraudulently handed out to cronies, how weakened our country's justice system, educational system and international power were, and how, in so many other ways, America was hurt by people who, then and now, clearly are solely focused on their own political advancement.

Watch Michelle Bachmann spew maniacal falsehoods. Listen to Sarah Palin trowel idiocy upon idiocy with that joyless, patronizing smile on her face. GLENN BECK.

What we see here is a basic facet of homo sapiens. Human beings have always had this capacity to put group loyalty before reason. Group loyalty existed in our brains for millions of years before reason every awoke. Most people are quite content thinking, as Colbert put it, with their "gut". It's what happens when fear and ignorance rule -- people "cling to their guns and their religion".

They do not deserve a respectful tip of the hat. Their attitude about Chicago's loss of the Olympics shows that Alan Grayson's attitude should be ours, as well.

Republicans are assholes. Never stop pointing that out. America needs us.

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