Countdown: Jeremy Scahill on the Latest Revelations About Blackwater
Keith talks to Jeremy Scahill about the latest revelations implicating Blackwater in murder and gun smuggling and for having a radical right, neo-crusader agenda in Iraq.
Olbermann: As horrific as all of this sounds, it's just part of what you describe in the piece today. Flesh it out for us.
Scahill: Well, I mean obviously to hear the term murder and Blackwater in the same sentence is no great surprise, particularly to people who've been following the history of this company. It's been at the center of some of the worst violence in Iraq. Killing civilians repeatedly. Five of its men are going to be tried on manslaughter charges for the Nisoor Square massacre in Baghdad in September of '07. Another one plead guilty. The Congress is investigating. The IRS is investigating. This is a scandal plagued company.
What is explosive about what's happened here, and you just went through some of the most explosive of these details is that you have two former Blackwater officials, I have learned from sources that John Doe #2 was actually in Blackwater management and was privy to some of the inner workings of the company.
Erik Prince, the owner of Blackwater remains the sole owner of the company no matter that he stepped down as CEO and the founder of the company. He micro-manages every aspect of Blackwater's operations and that's well known. On the Christian supremacists angle, let's remember that Erik Prince used Blackwater as a neo-crusader force and has from the beginning. This is a guy who comes from one of the power-house families of the radical religious right.
His father was a major bank roller, and gave the seed money to Gary Bauer to start The Family Research Council, James Dobson, Focus on the Family. And then we have his forced deployed in Iraq as part of a war against a Muslim nation that George Bush characterized as a crusade.
What we have here Keith is a confirmation from insiders at Blackwater that in face Erik Prince did have a neo-crusader agenda, and most explosively, may have murdered or facilitated the murder of individuals that were intending to or did cooperate in the investigation of Blackwater. This is deadly serious.
Scahill also appeared on Democracy Now to discuss Blackwater.
Full transcript available here: Blackwater: From the Nisoor Square Massacre to the Future of the Mercenary Industry.


Let me start by saying I am a 29 year + card carrying Republican the lost and defanged moderate "little r" republican but still it is my sad GOP you all are blogging about... and correctly so. I am saddened, ashamed and sorry for what my political party has become. For years I have been screaming about how my party was stolen from me by these out right bible thumping money whores. (Wow & I am a Roman Catholic conservative, and I can't believe I just wrote that, but I am not going to erase it because it is true). I went online tonight to find Rick Scott's email to send him a personal email to shame him for his lies on Health Care Reform, since I worked for his company back in the 90's and thought he was a once decent person. I did already have serious doubts about his true colors since I was around when the FBI was carting boxes of papers out the doors of our company (Columbia/HCA)and his guilt was sealed by the 1.7 billion dollar fine our company paid. Yet there were a ton of great people at Columbia/HCA, great people all of which he let down. NOW I find him fronting the CPR...OMG what is going on folks? Yet I read your comments and you give me confidence that these fanatical, evil doers are not going to get away with this campaign of lies and disinformation. I also refuse to leave my GOP and I remain fighting within the rank & file for real reform from within, even though I have been threatened and bullied beyond your imagination. These Ultra Conservative Folks are not Republicans, nor Americans or even Christians. They are as history has proven in the past "They are the party of Matthew Brady" FYI: the prosecutor in the movie "Inherit the Wind" 1960 directed by Stanley Kramer with Spencer Tracy, based on a real life infamous 1925 trial. Every American especially Republican needs to rent that movie and watch it. (not to mention Silkwood, Erin Brockovich etc...) My GOP plays dangerously with fire, rekindling the same institutional propaganda tatics of Himmler in the 1930s & 1940s, Joe McCarthy in the 1950s. Remember the greatist human atrocities were committed by these folks and these tatics & although thier names change & the dates change but always the core beliefs remain. I thank you all deeply for your comments as you have made me feel safer in this battle for the hearts and minds of the average "Joe Six Pack" American". I urge you to stand up and fight. This is evil class warfare that intends on crushing all those that do not fit thier definition of what is Christian. I only wish my Pope would stand up against this unholy war as I know Jesus would do.
Sorry folks this is my very first blog post...I know it is supposed to be a short, brief statement or comment and I am not really doing very well with this lengthy post. (You know us older folks are long winded anyway..lol) Again my apologies for my Sad GOP.
We're not all that happy with some of our Dems either.
What matters most is this country. On that I think we can agree.
It's time to put aside these idiotic bs arguments that have no foot in reality. And get down to the biz of fixing this country and it's future. Thank you for the honesty. We don't often get to see that.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
Thank you for your reply to my post. I will continue to fight for a healthy Rep party and therfore a healthy 2 party system for our country, since I do remember why I became a Republican back in the day. (I just never sold out apparently). Strange new experience to become part of the blogging world & thanks for the kind WELCOME. FYI: I did call the national HQs of both parties this morning and spoke in depth with them both, although the Dems were alot nicer to me...lol My next stop are these town hall meetings to shame these so called republican's acting like rude spoiled little children afraid of the dark for no rational reasons.
The things you posted are exactly the kind of things that need to be said...loud, clear and often. It has constantly bewildered me why the party of "fiscal conservatism" has completely lost the definition of that term, and it's refreshing to find someone else who seems to agree.
You know something, maybe peeps like us should get together with those peeps that have similar dis-satisfaction with the Democratic party and start a 3rd.
Anyway, excellent first foray into the blogosphere. Some advice...Don't feed the trolls too much ;)
How about the Royalist Party
Or even the Party Posse?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnFT9eQR4Xg
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I'm afraid that the damage is now beyond repair. Yours is a voice of sanity that is extremely rare if not altogether extinct in the GOP. I admire you for wanting to try to repair things from within but you just may find that your only safe recourse is to turn away from the dark side all together.
Via con Dios
I think I'm turning Japanese, I think I'm turning Japanese, I really think so.....
Soon to become extinct, post like this pop up in seldom moments of clarity, soon to be buired under the fascist hate chanting of the usual suspects.
There is nothing new about the US and black ops, it's been common business for ages. Souuh American, Nam, Afgan, Cambodia, etc.
It's a big list and the US has been doing it for ages. It's just that most republicans like making money from slaughtering the innocent then telling the rest of the world how amazing the US is.
Such a joke of a country.
and thanks for visiting my little corner of the site here. There are plenty of issues that I could agree with the Republican party on if they actually lived up to any of them and it wasn't just talk. In all honesty, I'm not a big fan of either party myself and actually just have a general dislike of politicians as a whole. The entire system needs to be cleaned up and be more responsive to the people instead of the monied class in this country. I've decided there's more hope of cleaning up the Democratic party to get some reform, and agree with more of their platform, and the Republican party just looks insane to me any more, so I've sided with the Dems, but it is reluctant at best. As Mudshark noted, there's a lot of stuff they're doing I don't care for as well.
My dislike for politicians is probably just behind our lying, sorry excuse for a main stream media, which is why I decided to start helping Mr. Amato with his site a while back. Don't worry about the long post. I'm glad you decided to drop in.
Generally I break mine up within about three lines.
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folks like yourself are always welcome here as far as I'm concerned.
I'm humilitated with Pelosi, Hillary, Reid, Rahm Emmanuel, every, single, cowardly BLUE Dogs, LIEberman, Biden, Spector (please take him back). What used to be a liberal party is now the most cowardly, lilly-livered, weak-kneed, excuse for humanity .............there are really no words at all arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrr
yous guys are welcome too!
If you want to rebuild the GOP, all well and good. Would it be Progressive? What is on the table? Is there anything like the Public Option or Pro-Choice? If so, I welcome your input as I would anyone's but without any new ideas or new directions, I would think the GOP remains intact and "as is" for the foreseeable future.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
Welcome. Never give up the fight, and NOTHING is ever set in stone.
Like everyone, I have liberal views and conservative views. I am fiscally conservative and socially liberal. However, I do believe that government plays a role in terms of doing what it can to provide some basic services to allow people to live productive lives and raise their children. That is the hope of America.
You and I may disagree on certain things, and that's ok. The issue is always not whether or not we agree, but how we interact with one another and reach a mutually agreeable compromise. That is what life is all about, and as you can see from the present way that politics is being conducted by the extremists in this country, demagoguing, baiting, character assassination can make life very unpleasant.
I wish you well, welcome you and hope that you will engage us in courteous debate. That is how we all learn.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TAtRCJIqnk
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
As Thom Hartmann has said time and time again: It's time for us (sensible ones) to take back our parties whether it be Democrat or Republican.
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
That term is something that is and has never been a term the GOP thinks it owns. Despite the Republican rhetoric, the Republican Party has never been fiscally conservative.
Fiscally Responsibility is what should be practised.
... there is no question that for a democracy to work, there needs to be multiple (some times opposing) political points of view represented. However, you must be one of the few sane conservatives left in this country, frankly IMHO the right has mutated into a bizarre collective of virulent reactionaries which I find frightening.
So I commend you for being able to keep your sanity, and capacity for analyzing in a objective way the current situation of the party which is supposed to represent the conservative ideals in this country.
You will find that many of the posters in this site are not happy either with the Dems. Most people here tend to be critical regardless of their political affiliation when criticism is due, the concept of country before party needs to prevail in order to stop this partisan madness which is taking us nowhere.
Maybe it is time to get real, and politically viable, 3rd parties to represent disenfranchised liberals and sane conservatives... because the current dynamic Dem/GOP duo sure as heck does not seem to have the common interests of the citizens of this country as part of their platform. They seem to be more concerned about the needs of a few mega corporations and the top 5% of the earning bracket in this country.
Is more people like you on BOTH sides of the aisle.
Wordy post, but worth reading.
Welcome back to the rational world:-)
We'll do our part from the outside; you do yours from inside.
I want to have rational Republican's to talk to again, to discuss issues, to argue. we can't do that now. They want all out Civil War.
that the Republican party of today is much different then it once was. I've always held that when they banned the American Nazi party many of those clowns infilitrated the Republican party. Not that there haven't always been a few nuts in all political parties!!
I have never been a fan of the party system. It seems to me both parties can only satisfy half of my desired approaches. I am a social liberal but a fiscal conservative. Unfortunately, it seems both parties can't understand what their job description is anymore. It was supposed to be to serve the interests of the people of the United States. Instead, it seems, they have corporate masters and are tools for only the wealthiest Americans.
..............welcome. 27 was a very pivitol year in my life. I started practicing yoga, and meditation and was as close to suicide as I've ever been, went to therapy, too. Very, very pivitol! Yes, I was also 'conservative' then. For me, I was too insecure to be liberal then and too shy.
I will give you a lot of credit for speaking out about the state of your party.
May I ask how come you and people like you in the republican party didn't speak up against the direction the party was going in when it was plain to see the party was coming off of the rails?
The GOP left me when as a party they decided to be anti-choice. (back in the '80's)
I am much more anti-GOP than a happy dem.
Under both or either party there are many systemic and institutional problems that should be addressed by the citizens no matter which party they favor.
I really hope for a time when the corporations and mega-money interests have less, little or no clout.
(a guy can hope)
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
The Nation piece includes PDFs of the actual affidavits.
Sworn Statements on Murky Blackwater Deeds
http://securityhippo.blogspot.com/2009/08/swo...
I bought and read Scahill's book, "Blackwater" and that scared the hell out of me. Now it looks like things might be even worse in the bowels of the organization. This sort of thing is nightmare material.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
I have held out on reading Blackwater.
Unfortunately, it is the nazi parallel that comes to my mind first; perhaps due to the fact that I was born shortly after WW II ended -
we all grew up listening to stories about the atrocities and the importance of keeping power hungry and twisted demagogues out of positions of power.
Blackwater/Xe reminds me of the Third Reich's Waffen SS, which was essentially the armed wing of the Nazi party.
Blackwater/Xe is an armed wing of the Christianist/Republican party.
The torture, the casual killing for the sake of an ideology, the hubristic "Gott mit Uns" attitude...
As I approach the closing chapters of my life I find myself in some evil country which I do not recognize.
In some way I think myself fortunate to lack sufficient health care; perhaps I'll bite the big one before the Christianist/Republicans finish building their police/prison state.
To have lived in the country you were born in would be wonderful. I was born in '77 and have come of age with 20 years of Reagan/Bush policies pawning the vitality and values of our nation to the private sector.
Hopefully humanity will one day learn to be humane.
people like Hannity, Limbaugh and Beck were generally laughed at as cranks or nazis.
As a child I was blissfully unaware of the rapid takeover of our country by the MIC.
I realized that things had been going terribly wrong during the reign of LBJ in the late 60s.
I'm just ahead of you age wise. I woke up to the KKKristians in N.Mn. in ´94, and with the grace of the ALL, was out of the US by 96, feeling shaky, unsure of myself, lost, learning a new language at 53, but, am I ever glad, now!!!!! Thank you ALL.
"John Doe #2 was actually in Blackwater management and was privy to some of the inner workings of the company."
And here I always thought that privies were for relieving the inner workings.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
It wasn't a violation of any kind.
Merely a description of what strikes me as fundamentally a just way to deal with the likes of the PRince of killers...
Snip - "Given that the Iraqi government recently kicked Blackwater out of the country and BW subsequently lost that portion of a larger State Department security contract, the move is most likely to distance itself from this past so closely associated with the Bush Administration's questionable Iraq policies and to make contracting with it more palatable for government organizations and private entities." [THE-SHELL-GAME]!
[ http://www.thespywhobilledme.com/the_spy_who_... ]
[ http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/whats-... ]
Study the symptoms not the virus...
His own "SS" out there doing his dirty work. The only way for America to get back there Honer is bring these assholes to court. To bad, I don't think this will ever happen. No one screws with the Good Old Boys.
Let me see, did prince give george about 4169,000 for his 2000 campanie. not a bad return on his money= a 1.4 billion dollar contract in Iraq. I don't get, christans are pro life, unless it comes to war. I know, they want your baby to grow up to join the military to kill. You don't think the rich will let there kids go to war.
So when are we going to see something about this in MSM?
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
. . .
I'm looking out the window right now hoping to see a couple of pigs fly by. So far, nothing.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
wish we had a real media in this country.
Due to the systems in place now and the control that needs to be kept, to keep the masses as stupid and hateful as their are so things like this are business as usual ........ it's NEVER going to happen.
I'm just concerned about the rest of the world, i.e. the real world.
You want to get really scared: If you didn't read it, do it now and think about the Blackwater connection with C Street, et al.
Lets get Dick, George, CondaLizard, VonRumsfelt and anyone else in the Bush crime family in shackles and the orange jumpsuit along with Erik Prince. After all Blackwater/Xe was their armed wing just as the SS was to The Third Reich.
Government + the Federal Reserve = organized crime
..if the President didn't have to get the Public Option pushed through, he'd have time to appoint that Special Prosecutor in order to go after ALL the War Criminals not just the American Schutzstaffel.
I knew sumptin' was up when they canned all the ex-Seals and replaced them with ex-Army officers.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
with Barack Obama as commander in chief, there has been a 23% increase in the number of “Private Security Contractors” working for the Department of Defense in Iraq in the second quarter of 2009 and a 29% increase in Afghanistan, which “correlates to the build up of forces” in the country.
http://www.acq.osd.mil/log/PS/hot_topics.html
Overall, contractors (armed and unarmed) now make up approximately 50% of the “total force in Centcom AOR [Area of Responsibility].” This means there are a whopping 242,657 contractors working on these two US wars.
It pisses me off to no end that Obama is not only NOT stopping this nonesense but actually expanding it. Change my ass.
Depends?
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....who could have possibly forseen problems with that?
It's probably that socialist government run Army that is making this up to make Capitalist Armies look bad.
Tongue-firmly-in-cheek
they just legalized it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdbdmSqu5hg
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Is it possible that we may have actually armed the very people who will then turn our own bought and paid for weapons back upon us.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
Who could ever have anticipated that?
and equipment to all sides during WW2.
Ca Ching
See the 1935 film Dealers in Death.
Most of corporate america was proffering from WW2 while the real allies where over there sorting it out, the US only changed sides when they saw more profit from doing so.
The reason a lot of the Brits could salvage stuff from the Nazis when the took their vehicles is because the engines where Ford et al.
Let alone what Prescot Bush (i.e. the same Bush family that the US elected so many times) was doing for the Nazis.
Prescott was profitting wildly from his sale of ovens to Hitler. The Nazi sympathisizers in the US drove Charlie Chaplin to leave to US and refuse to ever step foot on it's soil again.
it's sell to your friends today knowing damn well they may be enemy's tomorrow.
Just get the money
we are now aware that Reichsmarschall Cheney wanted to turn the armed forces loose in the Homeland.
The problem with that: how willing is that 20 year old soldier going to be when ordered to turn those weapons on his own - the modified "soldiers oath" notwithstanding?
But Blackwater/Xe has highly paid professionals who are ready, willing, able and delusional.
Chilling indeed...
1930s Germany .......here we go again.
Lets just hope the US figures out what side to be on a bit quicker this time.
...war profiteers do!
That and bullets traveling really, really fast.
The Sunni insurgents are using US weapons, some are from the arms supplied under the bribery schemes, some (100,000) are ones stolen by senior US troops and sold to the insurgents and anybody else in that region ie the Kurdish PKK etc. Some of Gen. Petraueses staff went to prison for stealing and selling off US weapons.
Bushco could not have made Iraq any worse if they deliberately tried.
The Financial Services Regime: a vast criminal enterprise.
The CIA: a vast criminal enterprise.
The MIC: a vast criminal enterprise.
The American Empire: a vast criminal enterprise.
Blackwater: The American Republican Guard, a vast criminal enterprise.
Who could have known?!?!
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we have toys and diversions galore to keep us smiling while we do this stuff.
The evidence has been so overwhelming for so long, you really have to go out of your way to delude yourself into any other conclusion. The US has been the biggest war crimes offender on the planet for the last 50 years.
Fox News Channel: a vast propaganda/criminal enterprise
Rush Limbaugh: a vast criminal, period.
I could go on, but you get the idea.
What's limbaugh's penis?
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Hillary Clinton demands war crimes accountability…
of Kenya.
But in the US it is the Culture of Impunity
Glenn Greenwald here
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Study the symptoms not the virus...
These people don't care about anyone other than themselves!
They don't care who they kill as long as they can make a few bucks it is all fun and games for them.
republicanism is a mental illness!
The Prince family is friends with James Dobson of Focus on the Family.
Wonder what Dobson is thinking now? Wonder what Dobson would think if he saw the results of Prince's handiwork. Slaughter of innocents seems to be a new family value.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
And speaking of republican family values:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2dQqGPlugE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_VPaMFQ5mY
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as long as it's not fetuses or Christians being slaughtered. Dobson would have no problem.
Sanford, Ensign, Coe, Coburn, Grassley, the list of members goes on and on. The Family thinks that normal morality does not apply to them as they are chosen by God to rule over the lesser people. That's us. They believe that Jesus wants only power, and is the ultimate businessman. It is so much deeper than this. They firmly and completely believe that they can do anything that advances their cause, that cause now being world-wide domination of their cult, because they are the new "Chosen People." When you realize how long they have been at this and the extent that they have already gone, you will not be able to close your mouth for a long time.
I am aghast as what I read there. This is what I expected clearly when corporations, not just Blackwater, went 'international'. The incentive to kill for secrecy and control is high with governments and corporations are replacing the entitlements usually given in past centuries to Royals and Nobles.
It's a game changer, one that can send ripples through many societies as murder by corporations protects those who order murders.
My dad was a Conservative, but now he's just 'middle of the road'. Not because he changed, but because conservatism changed to mean something Religious (he isn't) Racist (he isn't) and violent (he isn't).
In Canada the Progressive Conservatives were killed off for a more 'Republicanesque' Conservative party. One which seem determined to work for the best wishes and hopes of the Republican Party and the Rich people of America.
'The devil crept into Heaven, God overslept on the 7th, the New World Order was born on Sept 11th.' - Immortal Technique
just cover, distractions from the real cult members, who have perverted everything. The concept of free will NEVER enters their heads. What amazes me the most is that they believe that God needs them to do his dirty work. I must ask this: Just who is their God? Blackwater a part of it? Absolutely.
and i fully expect the obama justice department to sweep this under the rug. it goes straight tot he white house and to the bush cabal.
this whole "move forward and dont prosecute past misdeeds" carries no weight at all with me or anybody else. grow a pair obama and get with the program.
you want to get your agenda done? fine. just prosecute the lot of them for war crimes. the republicans will start screaming bloody murder and then you and the democrats can use your supermajority in the senate to ram through aALL of your changes.
What Blackwater did IS disgusting and it directly connects the Bush administration to war crimes.
With John Doe #2 being a former member of Prince's inner circle, this case could get very interesting indeed. I'm hoping for more arrests, most notably Cheney, Bush and Rumsfeld. (I can always dream, right?)
Obama administration a disappointment to military church-state leader
[ http://www.militaryreligiousfreedom.org/press... ]
Obama ends Bush-era National Prayer Day service at White House
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Study the symptoms not the virus...
I want arrests and convictions. This was MURDER!
NOBODY 2012
That Mr. Scahill has some professional bodyguards. Same thing goes for the guy that wrote 'The Family'. These people have no compunction about killing him
Good. Don't be surprised then when the PAID, TRAINED ARMY OF MERCENARIES turn their TAXPAYER-FUNDED weapons, tanks and Blackhawk helicopters on taxpayers to protect their livelihood and profits.
Why would you give a corporation the power to overthrow the government and turn on the people?
It's absolutely idiotic.
In 2006 I heard from a person I worked with who knew a returning FEMA official, who claimed Blackwater killed 300 plus stay behind resistors in NO, rumours were circulating amongst the FEMA people about Blackwater, assorted types who did not want to surrender to the law or leave their homes. This is generally written off in the MSM/online as a black CT story, nobody wants to believe that after 3000 flood deaths, there was some form of ethinic cleansing in NO by BW and co.
The same behaviour and tactics were used by the British army in the Gorbals slum district of Glasgow in the 30s, they sent the army in to clear out the remaining criminals and lurkers. Then they could demolish the empty tenement district.
Blackwater or similar contractors were in NO in RHIBs as soon as the hurricane had passed, the MSM reported black clad teams armed with guns, unloading and scooting off into the flood zone on their inflatables.
And if you compare the body count map with the flood level maps, there are some clusters of bodies in less than two feet of water, BUT near bridges or choke points.
...for any reason other than to help people anyway?
It's sickening that "protecting private property" is more important than saving human lives.
You're absolutely right, "ethnic cleansing" or not, emergency resources were allocated improperly, and in typical Bush fashion, with more regard to private profits than the public good.
I only hope that the CIA and the Pentagon are keeping a close eye on Blackwater's employees and movements. Paid mercenaries have a pretty low moral compass as it stands and their loyalty is certainly more to their employer and their paychecks than their country (otherwise they would have joined the Army).
My point being, they could do a lot of damage if they wanted to (like, if they felt the company was threatened).
All the book stores are out of The Family, so for those who have read it is there a correlation between Blackwater and the C-street fam?
"The Family" is so dense with information that has to be absorbed and pondered, that I have only made it through 150 pages out of 387. That does not include extensive footnotes. I cannot answer your question yet, but based on what one can find out about Dobson, Blackwater, etc. from other sources in addition to "The Family," it is highly likely that they are connected, at least in spirit and purpose. The Family is very secretive about their business, as is Blackwater. The philosophy of these people (I would never call it a religion) is so gut wrenching, twisted, and evil that I have to take breaks to keep in touch with what I consider the real God/Nature/Universe. Or even just logic. I had to order my copy twice from the same book store. It got here in about a week. Well worth the wait, as this is so intense and important. You'll want to talk about it.
Amazon.com items (Sold by Amazon.com, LLC):
1 The Family: The Secret Fun... $9.59
1 Crazy for God: How I Grew ... $12.48
1 The Quotable Atheist: Ammu... $12.44
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PS. Haven't read it yet, though I'm sure there is connection nonetheless.
Study the symptoms not the virus...
The one word that does not appear in the notes on his life Abram prepared near the end of his life, when instead of sheepskin he wore silk and gabardine, when instead of miners and cowboys he preached to senators and presidents, is power. But in 1935, when Abram was just beginning to dream his real ministry, he wrote the word once, in the margin of a church program. It was at the bottom of a list of names of men he had recruited. Besides each was a responsibility: organization, finances. Beside his own name, he wrote power—and then crossed it out. If it must be said, it can't be had. Power, Abram realized as he moved through the high corner offices of businessmen and leaders, has nothing to do with forcing the devil behind you or making the company increase your wages. Power lies in things as they are. God had already chosen the powerful, his key men. There they are, Jesus whispered in Abram's ear; go and serve them.
Throughout the 1920s, Abram directed Seattle's division of Goodwill Industries. He didn't just open stores for used clothes; he organized 49,000 housewives into thirty-seven districts and set them to work salvaging goods for the poor. In 1932, Franklin Roosevelt, governor of New York, invited Abram to his office to discuss his organizing system. Later he'd come to see Russian red running through out Roosevelt's New Deal, but at the time Abram was captivated by another man summoned to advise the governor, James Augustine Farrell, president of the United States Steel Corporation. Abram had met industry chiefs before then, but here was a titan. A tall, stern man of dark suits and high collars, Farrell had led U.S. Steel for de cades, since not long after its creation as the biggest business enterprise in history, and he had a reputation as an industrial free thinker. The year before he'd rebuked a group of businessmen for treating workers like animals. Farrell looked on his employees more like children. Big business, he believed, ought to act as a big brother, and to that end he insisted that the age of competition had passed; captains of industry must be freed of antitrust legislation so that they might better council together for the good of the innocent and the poor.
Abram fixed his rapt attention on the "steel shogun," as the press of the time called the industrialist. "Mr. Farrell reviewed the history of America," he'd remember, "and pointed out that we have had nineteen depressions—five major ones—and that every one was caused by disobedience to divine laws." Farrell offered no evidence for his dismissal of economic factors, but he did have a solution on hand. "Now," Abram recorded his words, "I am a Roman Catholic and we don't go in much for revivals and such things, but I am sure as I am sitting here that if we don't get a thorough revival of genuine religion ... with a return to prayer and the Bible"—an oddly Protestant aim—"we are headed for chaos." Farrell suggested that the time had come for the "leaders of industry" to take the reins not just of the economy but of the entire nation in order to restore it to a godly path.
Farrell, a former steelworker himself and thus living proof in his own mind that equal opportunity existed for all, was likely too modest to mention U.S. Steel's own efforts in this regard; most notably, its relief program for the Pennsylvania steeltown of Farrell, renamed just that year in honor of the great man himself. A desperate measure by a community of 30,000 utterly dependent on U.S. Steel and starving because of that fact. In Farrell, U.S. Steel fought the spiritual roots of its economic woes not through revival but by evicting from company housing those who were not part of the nation's godly heritage: foreign-born workers, black workers, and even the old white men who had built Farrell and now approached retirement and pensions. U.S. Steel replaced them all with young peons paid low wages. It was not a matter of getting the job done, since the mills were shuttered and there was no work to be done. U.S. Steel simply saw an opportunity for a correction.
But then, so did the men and women whom companies such as U.S. Steel were liquidating. It's hard now, in the present United States, to imagine the fear that attended the Depression years, and harder still to remember the anger. Most forgotten of all is the optimism of ordinary people pushed to an edge over which they peered and saw not the abyss they had been told by their employers and their politicians awaited them, but—maybe, if they built it themselves—a future dramatically different from the past.
–JEFF SHARLET (chap.4 → p.95-97)
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"When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross."
--Sinclair Lewis, 1935 novel "It Can't Happen Here".
"But in 1935, when Abram was just beginning to dream his real ministry"
"It seems, for a secular nation, according to our Constitution... The 40's & 50's era had some Unconstitutional shit going down."
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