Bob Graham Continues to Question Accuracy of CIA Briefing Records
Bob Graham on Washington Journal May 18, 2009. Graham continues to raise red flags about the CIA's record keeping and whether they can be considered reliable as to when Congressional committee members were briefed. Earlier in the program Graham suggested that the CIA needed to allow members of Congress to see the documents and sign off on them with an opportunity to dissent as to the content before making them part of any official record. His suggestion certainly would put a stop to this he said/she said gamesmanship we're seeing right now.
Q: Sen. Graham I did want to follow up on an interview that you gave to Huffington Post last week. They write "In testimony that could bolster Speaker Nancy Pelosi's claim that the CIA misled her during briefings on detainee interrogations, former Senator Bob Graham insisted on Thursday that he too was kept in the dark about the use of waterboarding, and called the agency's records on these briefings 'suspect.'
In an interview with the Huffington Post, the former Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman said that approximately a month ago, the CIA provided him with false information about how many times and when he was briefed on enhanced interrogations."
What was your reasoning for asking the CIA for this information. What sort of raised red flags for you?
Graham: When this issue started to bubble up after the President released the so called torture memos, allegations were made that all of the leadership of the Intelligence Committee had been fully briefed on this. I knew that was not the case with me. So I called the CIA and asked what were the dates on which I, Bob Graham, was briefed.
They gave me four dates, two in April and two in September of 2002. I had a habit of carrying with me a spiral notebook such as this. I went back to my notebook to those dates and I found that on three of the four dates, there was no briefing held. I presented that information to the CIA and they concurred that their records were in error. That to me raised some question about their general records management process and I already indicated what I thought would be one important step that would make those records more reliable.





is suddenly a truthtelling organization. and WTF is wrong with Panneta?
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common sense matters as much as truth
Panetta doesn't realize that the CIA has no problem with lying to anyone including their Director.
Let's see how far to the right they go before they fall off of the edge of this flat world.
Because then the republicans would be in jail and the MSM would have to get all new characters.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
This is all about Congress providing sufficient cover for individuals who did have access to information regarding torture so that they are able to support investigations and prosecutions.
WE ARE A NATION OF WAR CRIMINALS!
There's a pattern here. In an underreported story in 2005, Sen Bob Graham was deceived by CIA when he was whipsawed by intel briefers (Cheney's office) on warrantless wiretaps. This would add a second area of deception (bamboozlement -- what's the word?) by the White House on security issues wherein Bush/Cheney publicly asserted that "We briefed Congress about the terrorist surveillance program" and "We briefed Congress about enhanced interrogation." In both cases Congress looked like it was passively compliant (unable to be anything other, as sworn to absolute secrecy) with these two major abrogations of the Constitution (skipping fourth amendment warrants -- at least per minimal standards of FISA -- for wiretaps and breaking US and international laws against torture). In both cases the WH was misrepresenting the facts since Graham was not briefed on either program in crucial details.(Looks like Pelosi also received a less than complete briefing on warrantless wiretaps although details are sketchy in WaPo report).
Here's link to Graham's statement about his warrantless surveillance briefing (WaPo, 12-18-05), shortly after news broke about existence of the surveillance program in Dec 2005:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
Excerpt:
This pattern of deliberate deception in the Executive Branch briefings of Congress suggests an effort to manipulate the Legislative Branch under false pretenses to portray the Legislative Branch as being knowledgeable of intel facts ("complicit" is the word now being used) about which it was, in fact, not briefed, so that the White House could appear to be fully cooperative when, in fact, it was being deceptive to avoid legislative scrutiny. Additionally, given Sen Bob Graham's careful recording of events in his myriad notebooks, it is unlikely that he "misremembered" the contents of the briefing which apparently occurred directly from Cheney (or Cheney's office).
After 9/11, and the 9/11 commission, Graham came out publically and tried to raise doubts about how much had been redacted in the commission report and how he felt that Saudi complicity had been deliberately trivialized.
He was very upfront about not being able to say what he knew because he couldn't disclose classified information, but that he disagreed with how much was being classified.
At the time, he was ridiculed by the right-wingers who were screaming for war and all ready to invade Iraq instead of going after those who actually were responsible.
I always thought he quit after that because he was disgusted about the cover-up and what he knew was a BS reason to go to war, but couldn't talk about what he knows because they made sure anything that would reveal the truth was heavily classified.
The right-wingers even made fun of his obsessive note-taking. Funny how the wheel turns, isn't it?
Very interesting comments.
Bob Graham is to be commended for his careful record-keeping and for telling his side of the story. He is a lot more believable than the CIA will ever be.
many people have had suspicious accidents and/or suicides who questioned the gop or the CIAeda.
Remember what happened to JFK after he threatened to disband the CIAeda.The CIA did a piss poor job of protecting President JFK back then,didn't they? Not to even mention 911,Apparently the only thing the CIAeda is good at is overthrowing governments
Paul Wellstone comes to mind, along with many others.
Speaker Pelosi will win this battle. Like her or not, Obama needs her.
..if he screws up, she has taken "impeachment" off the table.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
We are a reputable organization that always tells the truth, to the best of our knowledge, and everything like that.
But sometimes we have our fingers crossed.
Does that keep away vampires?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Over at Firedoglake, Emptywheel has compiled a list of all the problems with the CIA's briefing list.
http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/05/19/...
The goppies claim 9-11 happened due to CIA failures, and reports of WMD's in Iraq, so rumsfield NEEDED a beefed-up DIA, now suddenly they're the paragon of truthfulness?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Funny how Graham said roughly the same thing as Pelosi but is all but ignored while Pelosi continues to face the hysteria of not only the Republicans but the media as a whole. Endlessly. I have to believe Graham because, as the most careful, precise human in the universe, He's probably make a lousy liar.
to the FACT that TORTURE did occur, is illegal, was ordered at the hiughest levels of our government, and no one is yet in prison awaiting trial for it. THAT is the real story!!! When the hell is the MSM going to wake up and report on THAT???
Plus it looks like the torture was to force false confessions, as part of a fascist propaganda machine. Who'd a thunk?
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Come on people we need to march on DC or something before they dicide to forget about and mmove on to murdering even more countries and people
We are talking about the supposed unreliability of an organization that supplied false/faulty information that supported BushCo's invasion of Iraq.
I'm not sure anyone denies this today- and yet the conservatives attack anyone who casts doubt on the CIA.
Selective memory holes or obstructionist assholes? You make the call.
...I mean, the CIA being compromised internally is about the most horrific thing I can imagine. It looks more and more to be the case in my eyes. This for me is crisis number one. When our intelligence agency has become a political tool, it's time to gut that agency and rebuild it from the ground up. The content and subject of the deception is basically immaterial; publicly discovering the motive for the deception is far more important for the long term health of our nation. I've said it before, Pelosi and Graham are brave patriotic souls for calling out the CIA.
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