Bill Maher on the Tea Baggers Pining for the 1950s
Bill Maher from his comedy special ...But I'm Not Wrong on the Tea Bag protesters longing for the return of the 1950s in America when they say "they want their country back". As Bill points out those times weren't so great if you were anything besides male and white.
Real Time returns on Feb. 19, 2010. I wasn't wild about the one on one interview segments for the most part and hope he drops that in the upcoming season. It would also be nice to see some fresh faces on there instead of the same guests he's had on before.
I've got a list of people I'd love to see on his show starting with any of our crew here at C&L that are willing to come on the television and represent the liberal/progressive on line community. Sam Seder is another one, and I could go on from there. If you've got your own suggestions I'd love to hear what they are in the comments section.
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a.) get rid of his absolutely retarded studio audience. they will clap at absolutely ANYTHING as long as it's flippant enough.
b.) keep people from the entertainment industry the hell away from politics/world events. Example: having to suffer through Mos-fucking-Def while Christopher Hitchens and Salman Rushdie try to have a real, substantive debate.
an empty bottle of gin.
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I could.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
He's not that bright for a comedian and I get a little bored hearing his intellectually-lite diatribes about drugs, prostitution, food, medicine and race.
Someone who CAN read but doesn't is far worse than someone who doesn't know HOW.
So are you disagreeing with me or what?
You want to hear more about Jessica Simpson's foreign policy?
It's all about context, ain't it?
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
Did you check with Sarah Palin before you used the word "retarded"?
or the little ones. Unless you want to explain what a c**t is to the boss.
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Or thinks you are stupid for spelling it with two **'s.
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filter spells it ****, I guess that would make the boss a silly ****.
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A**.
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almost as much as carlin at times.
Some stuff you can't make up!
it seems that if you don't agree with his way of thinking about anything, then you are the one who is screwed up, not him.
Seder and Hartmann would do well on his show. So would Schultz.
so are a lot of people.
quite a bit of this is recycled, but rings true.
the media is afraid to call a lot of rubes what they are, but he's right, they're just fucking racists. I'm sorry, but when I see some chubby southern rube on the TeeVee's blubbering about the fact that they "don't recognize their country anymore" it's because they ARE too chickenshit to just admit they're a racist asshole.
all of a sudden, they're worried about politics. right.
I'll bet that galls Native Americans. I think I speak for many people descended from Native Indigenous people when I say, "Get Out. And take your garbage with you. If you can't behave. Go. Now."
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"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
Weren't they here before some drunken Eurpoean cartographer
mislabeled Vespuccia?
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...God shed his grace on thee....
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
"God shat his grace on thee.."
And you know that part, "And crown thy good with brotherhood..." when the fuck is THAT going to happen?
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of course.
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believe the term native indigenous people is preferred. I referred to them as Native Americans so the recognition was immediate. Are you of that bloodline?
at some point you need some geographical reference since there were native indigenous folk all over the place hanging out waiting to be discovered.
This is meant to B silly, not snark.
Be as you wish to seem
How about "Natives"?
Or you could call them birthers.
is the Canadian term for aboriginal people who are neither Inuit nor Métis
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There's no doubt that a lot of the hatred directed at Obama is based in racism, but on the other hand, why should various ethnic groups be allowed to come to the U.S. and erase the prevailing Anglo-European culture? No one in my generation took this land from the natives or enslaved blacks, why should we be punished for the sins of our ancestors? It's a double standard to say that Anglo-Europeans who impose their culture are engaging in racism, but other groups who do the same thing are just seeking out racial justice.
The left would do a lot better in this country I think if it would stop with the political correctness programme and concentrate instead on economic and political reform. Of course the reason they don't do that is because political correctness goes hand in hand with the corporate globalist movement.
There's little difference between what you're asking here and what the Know Nothings of the 1850s were asking, except they were more specific- they talked about it in terms of Anglo-Saxon Protestantism because the then-current wave of immigrants were Irish and German Catholics. Later 19th century "nativists" revised the position to that of protecting (North)Western European culture in the US from the Italians and Slavs of Southern and Eastern Europe.
And need I point out that despite the marginalization of African-Americans for centuries on very much the same reasoning, they've contributed a whole helluva a lot to this unique American culture?
I'd suggest you quit wetting your pants in fear that we'll lose our culture. It is always evolving, it never is today what it was yesterday.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
As I said, globalism/cosmopolitanism goes hand in hand with corporatism, and the irony to me is that the same *progressives* who constantly whine about corporations are supportive of immigration and trade policies that directly undercut the labor movement.
I thought Rube Goldberg was dead. Guess I was wrong.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
It's funny. As someone of pre-USA Texican and Native American background, I find this panic over the Anglo-European culture being erased ironic and bigoted.
My Spanish-speaking and Latino-ethnic family were in the area of the Southwest for hundreds of years before the annexation, when my gr-gr-gr grandfather was 9 years old. Yet people coming to this country now who speak the same language and have many of the same traditions as my ancestors are somehow "erasing" Anglo culture.
And newsflash, your generation may not have committed these sins against our peoples, but *we* are still living and struggling with those sins. Just try telling the tribes of North and South Dakota right now that that was all in the past, while they are struggling to survive this winter.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
...it's free market...yapyapyapyapyap...you progressives think you're soooo smart....globalism...Bilderbergers...blahblahblahblah...Constitution! Freedom!...garblegarblegarblegarble...real Americans know this to be...barbarbarbarbarbarbar....Every man's an island...Don't go changin' to try and please me...
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
That was a lot of babbling on freequark's part.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
It's clear that whatever compassion exists in American society is reserved for non-Americans and immigrants. Most Americans these days could care less about native tribes or inner city blacks or poor whites in Appalachia. No, they're too busy trying to adopt some kid from Cambodia or increase the number of H1B Visas to concern themselves with the disenfranchised here in the U.S.
Now, you call me bigoted for clinging to Anglo-European culture, but it's obvious that socialism - we progressives are supposed to believe in socialism, right? - can only exist in homogeneous societies. For example, Europe has a lot of socialist governments due to the fact that most countries there are ethnically homogeneous. Of course we don't have that sort of ethnic purity in the U.S., but in the past, some forms of socialism existed here because the American people were united culturally around institutions like the English language, secularism, freedom of speech, etc. That isn't happening anymore, because the people who come here now have no desire whatsoever to assimilate into the prevailing Anglo-European culture. They adhere to the language and religion and customs of their *homeland,* and of course no one can complain because to do so would be racist. The result is a divided country, and not surprisingly, socialist politics are becoming increasingly unpopular in the U.S.
What 'we,' white man?'
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...and yet I'm not the one who brought someone's actual *race* into the discussion. Are you trying to say you're not a progressive ?
about Tonto and the Lone Ranger being surrounded by Indians. But guess what? Contrary to your deluded beliefs, you brought *actual* race up all over the place:
Just because you couch it in terms like "people who come here now" and "various ethnic groups" doesn't mean you weren't stripping them as group out of your fabulous white status quo.
After all that, I don't think you'd get the Tonto/Lone Ranger joke if it were told you.
And remember, you squawk about "the political correctness programme" to find excuses to express your naked, obvious bigotry. Because after all, part of "being pc," as you people so derisively put it, is about not using words that have a history of hate backing them up. Go ahead be incorrect and call people n*****, wetbacks, wops, whatever. Quite frankly I welcome it. That way I can tell you apart from decent human beings quickly.
BTW, you aren't 'supposedly' at all when it comes to being bigoted.
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You're saying that I'm a racist because I think Americans should pay more attention to impoverished native Americans than to foreigners?
BTW, not all immigrants are people of color. In fact, many lily white Brits and Russians and Eastern Europeans are also taking jobs from American citizens, so opposition to immigration can't really be correlated with racism.
You know, for someone who is supposedly against racism, you sure do seem to be angry at *white* people. Have you ever seen the movie *Bridge on the River Kwai*? Watch it sometime, and think about what Colonel Nicholson means at the end when he says *What have I done?*
of what i wrote. and really use the term bigotry, which I believe I did, if you prefer it to racism.
And your whole rap here is based on excluding people other than American WASPs. So I point that out and that's your "Gotcha!!1!!" Epic Fail on your part.
I've seen the movie, and of the two of here, you are the one in dire need of contemplating the Colonel's words
You are just too thick, too much of an idiot, for me to waste any more time on...
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One of my main concerns about immigration is the conservative religious beliefs many immigrant populations are bringing into the secular West. For example, I sure would hate to live in Britain right now because I don't see how the British can oppose the rise of Muslim fundamentalism in their country. If they try and stop it, they will be accused of racism. if they don't, the country will turn into an lslamic Republic. Right now, the forces of political correctness are so strong that even the Archbishop of Canterbury said he could foresee the day when Sharia would become law in Britain.
I live in Britain, have done for 8 years. There is NO FUCKING RISE OF MUSLIM FUNDAMENTALISM! NONE! The Arch Bishop of Canterbury was referring to Sharia Law in CIVIL matters such as divorce, but English law would prevail. Much like the Beth Din, Sharia law would co-exist peacefully.
I have nightmares about returning to the USA, mainly because of idiots like you. BTW, Britain is NOT a secular country since the head of state is also the head of the church. Moron.
Sharia law may one day become part of English civil law, but Islamic fundamentalism isn't on the rise Britain. Yeah, right.
I LIVE HERE! I actually live in a predominantly Islamic area of London where we have the full range of secular Muslims to all out niquabs. I am free to wear tank tops and Daisy Dukes as much as I want without being stoned.****
Lemme clue you in on something-- any "radical" Muslim that has been caught has been British-born and not a foreigner. There are a very tiny, yet loud group of so-called fundie Muslims here in Britain, but they aren't enough to make anyone but the clueless, the stupid and the racists scared. You forget unlike us chickenshit Americans, British people have lived under the threat of terrorism for DECADES. They know how to deal with it. 7/7 happened and it was awful. However, other terror plots were quashed and a lot of it in part was thanks to other Muslim Brits that were not afraid to speak up.
My son attends a school that is more than 40% Muslim, yet he tells me all about Bible stories, Christmas and Easter are celebrated and he has yet to declare a fatwah on anyone. In fact, he has discussed being an atheist with his Muslim best friend. He's six. I don't even know why I am talking to a rube like you. Keep laughing-- I hear chimps do that out of paranoid fear.
**** Disclaimer**** I do not dress like that, not because of fear of reprisals from radical Islamists, but because I am 32, not 19.
Is laughable.
I just got back from Scotland. Last night in fact. And I can tell you that the Scottish will not allow that to happen. It simply will not happen.
As for England, I found the English to be very tolerant of Muslims. To a point. Then, not so much.
I don't mean this in a bad way.
They'll give the Muslims all the space they want. But, they won't allow them to change their society.
The Brits are a tolerant people to an extent. When they reach that limit, they let their voices be heard. Sometimes in a way that is not very nice. But, for the most part they can't be bothered with all the bs. Until, something goes wrong.
Not to mention the British security.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
People don't live in a cultural vacuum. If Muslims gained enough political power in Britain, they would clearly change the laws to reflect their own religion and culture, just as teabaggers would do if they became the majority in the U.S. In fact, Muslims in the Netherlands have already tried to use their political power to overturn Dutch tolerance for pornography and other alleged vices. Given the increasing ethnic populations in the West, it is not at all inconceivable that some countries could be overtaken by Islamists.
You obviously don't know the British people very well. What if Christians gained a majority in ,say, Saudi Arabia? Do you think that's possible? You know, Mecca and all that.
I got the email floating around about Muslims in Britain wanting to change Britain. Pure bullshit.
The Brits would never allow that to happen. But go ahead and believe the fear bullshit. What Ifs? That's all you have. And that's nothing but total bullshit.
Sorry. I don't mean to offend you. But it's bullshit. They're still pissed off at the Germans. Do you remember that suicide bombing attack in Scotland at the Glasgow airport? It was quite awhile ago. Maybe 6 or 7 years ago. Well, they screwed up. Very little damage to the airport. One of the perpetrators didn't die immediately. He was on fire.
They didn't even try to put him out. They let him burn. He lived for a little while. But not for long. They wanted him to suffer. They just stood there and watched him burn. That's how they feel about the so called Muslim terrorists. They keep a leery eye on the Muslims.
There isn't a snowballs chance in hell of an Islamic take over of the govt in Britain.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
You are making too many assumptions about who we are. Also, I understand your culture trip but here's what you're missing:
What is Anglo-European culture? Any culture is a common, temporary set of behaviors or traits in a population based on a whole variety of factors.
Example: American culture itself. Depending on when you lived, each time period would be culturally very different. That's my point. You see cultural change as a loss of culture. It's not. It's an evolution of culture.
I don't believe in God. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life.
-Andrew Carnegie
That's what the problem is really. American society used to be relatively non-ethnic. Yes, there was sort of a baseline Anglo-European culture - i.e., we all spoke English and the laws and basic institutions came from Europe - but most Americans generally just thought of themselves as Americans. Now it seems that everyone has to belong to some tribe or other. You have to be Irish-American or African-American or Israeli-American. To simply think of yourself as an American means that you're a part of the underlying Anglo-European culture, which of course is considered racist.
Ironically, it would appear the most ethnicized people in the U.S. are not immigrants, but rather the children and grandchildren of immigrants - they're the ones that seem to have the greatest desire to connect with some foreign homeland. No doubt this is because they have been taught that American culture is inherently racist. Therefore, they have to attach themselves to some other place in order to fit into a society where racism is sort of the ultimate taboo. The net result is that we now live in a country composed of various tribes hostile towards one another, which of course makes any sort of socialistic politics an impossibility. The whole thing is really sad. The melting pot finally worked and then some people came along and turned it over.
"why should we be punished for the sins of our ancestors?" How are you suffering? And if you REALLY believe that you are "being punished" maybe it's because today you continue to benefit from the sins of your ancestors.
Why should I have to compete with some person from China with an H1B Visa? After all, no one in China has to compete with me (or probably any other American) for a job.
Granted, the good-paying jobs in this country may be due in part to the sins of my ancestors, but they are also due to the positive efforts of progressive Americans who put their lives on the line for the labor movement. One could ask then why a Chinese person should be able to benefit from a political movement in which his or her ancestors played no part.
What's so special about the 'prevailing Anglo-European' culture that it must be enshrined?
and Nader.
Chomsky and Nader, no! Although Nader probably could be a stunt double for Mr. Bean.
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The popular sitcoms of the '50's included The Honeymooners and I Love Lucy. Patriarchy ruled, and in the case of the latter, the Hispanic macho image was taken even farther. In each case, the woman was "not allowed" to work; the backlash from the self-empowerment developed by women in the WWII Home Front work force was still being felt.
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Just as women who had served during WWII were pushed behind the gender line after the war, blacks who had served side by side with whites during WWII were pushed behind the color line when they returned to civilian life in the 50's.
The Civil Rights Movement and the Equal Rights Movement were simmering under the surface.
And once those two movements got moving, and the War on Vietnam ratcheted up, it wasnt to hard to get the AntiWar Movement going.
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
pearls to wear while keeping what I recall to be a very immaculate home.
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Plus she wore lacy ruffled aprons. Good times!
Down side, her kids name was Beaver. Not nearly as cool as the name of Palin's kids.
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sounds like it would be more of an appropriate name for a girl.
Maybe June had problems we were not aware of at the time. Not that there is anything wrong with that or whatever.
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I love Beaver!
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
Canucks love beavers too!
In fact, National Beaver Day is February 26th:
http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/Heritage/FSCNS/Scot...
and the 12th anniversary of my last smoke (cigarettes, that is, to quote Tony Curtis)
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fer sure, m_k!
Okay, we'll bite, what is the main event on National Beaver Day? Is that like our Valentines day?
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You've heard of "chewing the fat" with friends?
On NBD, "chewing the wood" is de rigueur!
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"Ward, I think you were a little hard on The Beaver last night."
Let's see how far to the right they go before they fall off of the edge of this flat world.
his Mom was named after a bug. They had a neighbor named after bad mashed potatos.
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They were using code from the Little Orphan Annie decoder ring, perhaps.
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'Eddie Haskell?'
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Lumpy sounds about right.
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Lumpy Rutherford.
Showoff :)
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Couldn't resist ;)
Lumpy was what Wally, the Beav, and Whitey called him. Eddie called him Lumpy except when Mr. and Mrs. Cleaver were present.
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:D
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And that, my friends, was the sound of a nail being hit on the head.
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Conservatives.
Proudly opposing progress since 10000 BC.
good ol' days weren't really good at all. Unless you're a straight white male, of course.
I love the fashions of the 1950's, the rest I can do without.
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Are you talking about those spike heels that deformed feet, and tight girdles to get that wasp waist? They were horrible~!
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What was that all about, anyway?
Had to look perky for their hubbies!
I think it was a suggestion of ice cream cones or perhaps it was a chest defender.
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to make women's breasts look alien and totally un-flesh-like so it would be ok for men to look at them.
We were a VERY conservative society on the surface.
Remember Lucy and Desi's twin beds?
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"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
and plastic surgery for feet now too, to shape feet to the shoe. I wore high heels for years in the 70s and 80s. And I own heels from the 40s. the 50s have nothing on the shoes of the last decade up to the present day.
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and then peg them before you pulled them up all the way?
What does that mean, "peg your pants"?
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without cutting off your circulation completely. If you did it before you pulled them over your ankles, they could not be sewn as tightly.
I swear I have never heard of such a thing. When was this happening exactly?
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carried stillettos. Where we came from they carried guns.
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Mods and Rockers time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEI2UUhVEn4
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I've always had 'back' and pegged pants were not the deal when I was out and about in the pumps. It was more of a tight look all the way down, very straight leg. Always wore 501s with my heels, then leggings (as in cotton/lycra blend black pants) and cat suits.
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Was this like the clothes in Grease?
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grease is that is. like dirty fucking hippies, then disco then in the 90s I retired from fashion. But I still have my shoes, some I never wore yet, and they're 20 years old.
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Would you like to lay down on the couch and we can talk about your 20 year old shoes you never wore? How do those shoes make you feel? I think in the 90s fashion retired from common sense.
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They're back in style!
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"I think in the 90s fashion retired from common sense."
And now, common sense has retired from fashion.
If Imelda Marcos changed her shoes three times a day, and never wore the same pair twice, it would take her more than two years and five months to work through her shoe supply--as it existed on the day she fled Manila...
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oh yeah! Sweater sets! Poodle skirts!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EY4TT2bLRM
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When men were men and women were chattel.
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Chattel Cathy doll was invented?
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I mean the "Bobby Sox to Stockings" song.
Actually, the huge population of aging baby boomers were children during that decade and THAT'S what they are remembering -- the joys and carefree experience of childhood. They were oblivious to the inequities and just long for the good old days when they didn't have to worry about anything.
In those days, until it came to the "Duck and Cover" propaganda and drills, kids were shielded from all the bad shit. It's kind of easy for me to remember the late 50s early 60s as 'good times'
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You had shields? My parents clued me in to all the bad shit and that was just the family bad shit. Had I known about the country's bad shit, I would have probably colored outside the lines.
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Everything for you was outside the Colored lines.
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I did love coloring books and no, I did not wear a sheet over my little flaxen head.
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and Trojans led the baby boomers into the safe sex ideology.
But we only called em rubbers.
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you're one of the guys that tryed to wear them over your shoes when it was raining or snowing.
See? Ricky and I used to date and I thought those things he wore over his shoes were so freakin' sexy.
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when I worked at Nordstrom in the credit office, we got a very irate male customer calling about the charge for 'rubbers' in the men's dept., after his wife had seen the bill and tore a strip off him.
We had a customer service meeting to change the offensive word. I got kicked out of the meeting immediately after I suggested 'condoms'
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That's because you wear them in the rain or where things rub?
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both parents previously married and both denied denied denied it to us. An aunt ran off w/ her son-in-law (all my cousins were 10-20 years older). This was a family tradition, to keep shit from the kids; family secrets, sex ed, how to create and live within a budget, we got none of it.
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I was taught quickly that we had no money so shut the fu*k up about anything I wanted. Worked for me because I knew not to beg, ask, plead for anything.
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Sun, 02/14/2010 - 16:45 — miss_kitty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKqXu-5jw60
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There is a lot of good that I remember about the 50's. You could understand the words of a song, you could listen to the songs with the entire family, you didn't have to lock your doors, kids were safe riding their bicycles around the neighborhood and Mom could stay home because Dad earned enough to support the family. You could go out to dinner and not hear telephones ringing, meals were actually cooked and not bought precooked to shove in a microwave. Milk came in glass bottles and you got cream with it. People said please and thank you instead of f*** you like we hear today. Your friends parents were addressed respectfully as Mr or Mrs Soandso instead of first names. To hear of someone using drugs was a shock, a girl getting pregnant as a teen was very rare, you never heard of people in small towns being murdered. Teachers could discipline kids to keep order in the classroom so you could actually learn whereas today the hoodlums run the class which denies those who wish to learn the opportunity. Todays parents will call for a teacher to be fired who dares scold their kids. Some will even murder them. You weren't afraid of what might happen to your kids when you sent them to school. Nobody brought weapons to school and killed fellow students. About the worse kids did back then was chew gum in school. People today have no respect for anyone. It used to be relaxing to take a nice Sunday drive, today it is a nightmare because it seems everything thinks they own the road. We never heard of the term road rage back then.
So while we have come a long way in many areas, we have sacrificed a carefree life. There are many things I would long to return to the same as in the 50's. I am not a looney tea bagger either. I just liked the simpler safer life.
Unfortunately it is gone and will never return no matter who wants it to and no matter what anyone may try to do to bring it back. It is lost forever.
a couple of things I disagree with.
Telephones. You had to wait for that yakky old bat to get off the party line, and when it was your turn, you could swear the old nosy parker was listening in.
Auto safety-non extant. And they knew better too.
Drug abuse. Cigarettes were touted as the thing for a sore throat, something to calm your nerves, a healthy thing to do. Alcohol and speed. Some docs handed out diet pills to housewives like it was going out of style.
But the pregnant teen thing-you know why you think there were less of them? They were sent away, and forced to give their babies up, whether they wanted to or not. Shamed and disgraced if word got out. And a painful dirty little secret some women from that time, and decades beyond, still carry.
The McCarthy Hearings-a blast! and if your neighbour pissed you off, grass him up as a Commie! Problem? Problem solved! And the Russians were going to bomb us to smithereens.
Blacks had to eat, drink and piss in different, often less appealing, less clean facilities than whites. In the South it was de jure segregation, in the north, de facto segregation. In the south they were still keeping black kids legally separated based on the stunk-to-high-heaven Plessy decision, while in the North, the races were quietly separated by restricted covenants, redlining and worse. If you were black in the north, you might get a job in the bank or a store, but it would be in the basement, and your chances for promotion were slim to none. Blacks couldn't be firefighters in many northern cities. Couldn't vote in the south.
So as was said by Bill Maher, it was a 'simpler life' For white people.
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Study the symptoms not the virus...
If American conservatives in 2010 pine for the 1950s, to which decade did conservatives in the 1950s want to dial back?
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
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they wanted to expose and jail reds.
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"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
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"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Revolutions in 1848, Darwin, emancipation, the beginning of the 5-day-a-week work schedule, the introduction of pensions and social security type programs...
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
with the conservatism too.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
More likely Edwardian
They don't want chicks in charge.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Conservatives can be quite adept at ignoring inconvenient facts. I'm quite sure that back in the day, they were capable of completely ignoring that 'Victorian' was Queen Victoria, not just a nice quaint term for old.
the whole "Life with Father" ideal.
.. pre Civil War ..
But then, there are those who today long for the AnteBellum Days!
Note the voice she uses to mimic the voice of the inmates. Starts about the 1:50 mark.
(The Daily Show) February 8, 2010: Jenny Sanford
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
You saw that too? And got the same impression I did from her voice. She gave herself away and Jon Stewart just sat there thinking, She is hanging herself.
She misses her roses they cared for, for her. And she misses the clean dogs the inmates said they would clean for her, Mrs Sanford.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Feudalism...
Wow, Bill Maher hits it out of the park!
Exactly, the wingnuts are not only racial bigots, they are religious, political and mental bigots as well.
This is what is wrong with these Republican/Conservative, Teabaggers,
etc., this is why they are extremists. Because they want every one to think, believe, look and behave like they do.
And what is behind bigotry? Fear, fear and more fear.
"big⋅ot⋅ry
1. stubborn and complete intolerance of any creed, belief, or opinion that differs from one's own."
An anomaly?
PS.
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Brilliant! I'm going to start up donation sites too! Just what I need to tackle those pesky bills that keep rolling in...oops, i mean to oppose Barrack Obama's socialism. Now all I need is a Creative Commons picture of a black man and the money can start rolling in!! Thanks for the tip Truth_Critic!
There was a strong counterculture in the 50's, as well as the dominant culture.
Elvis Presley.
Lawrence Ferlenghetti's City Lights Books.
Alan Ginsberg's Howl.
Jack Kerouac's On The Road.
Salinger's Catcher in the Rye.
Kurosawa's Ikiru.
The Civil Rights Movement.
The Equal Rights Movement.
The seeds for the eruption of the counterculture in the 60's were sown in the 50's, precisely because the dominant culture was such a primitive culture.
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
My parents began sowing their seeds a bit earlier than that. Unfortunately, they were not good sowers.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
a truly great movie.
me-oww!
Chuck Berry and Elvis and the Beatles may have given the world many musical gifts, but hidden inside those melodies was consumerism and corporatism.
In the United States, the motto first appeared on a coin in 1864 during strong Christian sentiment emerging during the Civil War, but In God We Trust did not become the official U.S. national motto until after the passage of an Act of Congress in 1956.
The Pledge has been modified four times since then, with the most recent change adding the words "under God" in 1954.
The National Day of Prayer is a day designated by the United States Congress as a day when people are asked to come together and pray, especially for their country. It was created as a floating holiday in 1952
Study the symptoms not the virus...
...rather important point about the 1950s:
Do you know what the top income tax bracket was?
In the 1950s? Under a Republican president?
91%.
Being a Republican wasn't just a convenient cover for any selfish, ignorant, asshole looking to fuck over his neighbor for a quick buck.
I don't believe in God. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life.
-Andrew Carnegie
Not only was his first name Beaver, but his last name was Cleaver. Sounds like they gave him a name he could flaunt around in the frat house once he got older.
I guess I just don't remember the 50's they same way some do.
I remember the segregation, at the swimming pools, at the restaurants, and fountains and such. Remember hearing about queers and how they should all be locked up. (Of course some people still feel that way) When bullying at school was not only tolerated it was what you were supposed to do to "be a man". I am sure corporations would like to go back to those carefree polluting days, and the asbestos, lead paint, DDT etc etc. Remember duck and cover and we were all going to die from those dirty Reds. When young girls often died for their sexual mistakes. I seem to remember TV Dinners being all the rage too. I remember driving drunk was pretty acceptable and that children were safer from predators makes me laugh; at worse it was just telling uncle Ernie not to do it again because people just didn't want the neighbors to know. When patriotism was ask no questions and the law really only was "RESPECT MY AUTHORITY" Yeah I remember those days well.
I am not at all sure I would want to return to those days or certainly not my grandkids. Teach and love your children and hopefully they will change the world for the better.
NOW GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!!!!
...one could argue that in a roundabout way the civil rights and counterculture movements have led the Democratic Party - and therefore the entire country - away from progressive economics. Civil rights -> racial, ethnic, gender, and national equality -> globalism -> free trade -> corporate control of the economy.
full o crap.
One could argue that crap, but you've been batting 1000 in the 'Wrong' column for I don't know how long, but certainly on this thread. This particular bit of creepy racist 'reasoning' is no different.
me-oww!
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