Bill Kristol: 'I Think Perry Could be Formidable' if He Runs in 2012
From the genius who helped bring us the snow-billy from Wasilla, Bloody Bill Kristol thinks that Gov. Good-Hair-Secessionist Rick Perry of Texas might be a "formidable" candidate if he decides to run for president in 2012.
WALLACE: All right. Let me turn, Bill, to two people whose names were prominently mentioned this week, that they might jump into the race. One is Governor Rick Perry of Texas. The other is Rudy Giuliani, the former mayor of New York City.
What do you think, one, is the likelihood either will get in? And two, what kind of a factor do you think either of them will be?
KRISTOL: I think it's unlikely Rudy Giuliani will get in. And if he does, I think it's unlikely he'll be the nominee. That's a reason he didn't win -- I mean, presumably, he would have been a stronger candidate in 2008, when the memory of his mayoralty was fresher than now.
WALLACE: Then why is he up in New Hampshire?
KRISTOL: Because all these guys look at the field and they think, really? I mean, I have as good a career as these other people who are running. Why don't I get a shot? And it is a wide open race.
I think Governor Perry could well get in, and I have thought for months that if you came down from Mars and sort of looked at the possible Republican candidates, and you saw the governor of the second largest state in the nation with an extremely good record -- Texas has created jobs over the last 10 years while he's been governor, while the rest of the country has not -- over the last two years, I think Texas is the only state in the country perhaps that has net job creation I the private sector, and he's a Tea Party favorite.
I mean, what do you need to be the Republican nominee? You need to have a proven record, I think, and you need to be accepted to and even exciting for Tea Party activist types.
Perry checks both those boxes at once. I think Perry could be formidable if he got in.
So Perry and the Snow Bunny have the support of the Tea Baggy Brigade.
So what?
The TeaBaggers account for only a very small minority of voters. Most Americans don't think like them. (Let me re-phrase that. Most Americans THINK.)
The support of the TBs is not enough to get elected President. Sure, it might get you scattered seats in the House. But in a nationwide election? Not a chance.
How can someone still be a mainstay of the gasconade brigade if he's never been right about anything? A reel of Kristol's wrong 'predictions' would run into hours. Without his family's name he would just be another boor in a bar.
It doesn't take a whole reel to prove your observation wrong.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSy8sNiH9-0&fe...
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
The people who responded to that video disagree with you.
Palin should be considered for the VP nomination? Or they diagree with my assessment that his prediction about Palin was one he got right?
Ha, ha, ha. Commenters whupped at predictions by Bill Kristol. The stupid is strong in this one.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
with Palin!
Looks American enough, but I wouldn't trust him with my household budget.
I wouldn't trust him with my houshold pet. Unless he went to Vet school. They're good!
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
It already looks like he is wearing my household pet on his head.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
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“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
but,imo, they produce some pretty damn good engineers. I've met a few.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
of academic offerings. I would hire their engineering grads for engineering work. I would, however, still keep pets out of the workplace.
Rick, bless him, was neither an engineering nor veterinary science major. He was a Yell Leader. You have to be a Cored Cadet to do that. Sorry, I meant be in the Corps of Cadets.
In his defense he wrote a book about how he loves the Boy Scouts.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
WOW! George W. Bush quality.
Ya, sure.....we want to go down THAT road again......NEVER!!!
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
Bush was a Cheerleader. Perry was a Yell Leader.
Yell Leaders do not touch other Yell Leaders of the opposite sex below the waist nor toss them in the air where they can look up their skirts.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
"In his defense he wrote a book about how he loves the Boy Scouts."
Is that in a Catholic priest sort of way or in a discriminating against gay people sort of way?
Texas A&M Yell Leaders can only be described as uninformed representatives of a state funded, predominately male institution.
So they dress exactly the same as other uniformed representatives of a state funded predominately male institution.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_heVajPCi0v4/SrWzj2f...
http://www.umc.org/atf/cf/%7BDB6A45E4-C446-42...
The second photo is not to be interpreted as depicting the typical size of an undergardaute course offering at Texas A&M U. In fact, it is a depiction of the other institution.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
In the first, they look rather close. In the second, it wouldn't be a stretch to picture them in orange (prison, not U-T).
School District. Google it. Or better yet:
http://www.windhamschooldistrict.org/
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
I thought he was talking about Katy Perry
of winning!
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
From what I see, NONE of the Republican candidates are "formidable".
alternate universe they are----where the rivers run with Democratic blood and there are mountains of lobbyist campaign cash to grab.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
Well tat is the kiss of death for Perry's hopes of getting the nomination. Bloody Billy "Never been right about anything" Kristol's endorsement pretty much guarantees that Perry will poll behind Bozo the Clown.
What kind of drugs is Kristol on? Even Texans in a recent poll have rejected the idea of Perry running for President by 80 percent to 20 percent.
True , I read the same Shorebreak . Kristol is talking out of his butt as usual .
Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .
to 270 without Texas. Rick might lose his own state, but how does his message play in NY or CA? (snark)...
not all martyrs see divinity
He could always pick up IL, maybe not. Never bet against a candidate's home state, unless the candidate's Al Gore.
Kristol meth, of course.
The GOP is grasping at straw polls.
In a poll they showed on morning joe, Rudy polled at the top followed by Mitt and then I think Palin.
The sane republicans must be feeling a little desperate about now. Every mole in the whack-a-mole game is popping it's head up and no one has the whacker to clam them down. To me, it's getting kind of funny to watch.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
...that Rudy hasn't yet given any signals that he has any intention of running, and he's got at least two strikes against him when it comes to the typical Republican platform (especially when it comes to the social conservative vote). One is the fact that at least historically, he's been both pro-choice and LGBT-friendly -- the other is the fact that he's a twice-divorced serial adulterer. Granted, Pat Robertson endorsed Giuliani during the 2008 presidential election -- an example of blatant hypocrisy if there ever was one -- but he was roundly criticized for it, as he deserved to be. There's also the small matter of the fact that one of Rudy's close friends and former advisers -- I'm talking about Bernie Kerik (the former commissioner of the NYPD) -- is now a convicted felon and jailbird.
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
The odds may be stacked against him. The poundits may have written him off. His past performance yields no sense of confidence.
But just like the movie, dreams come true.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Fttt3fFTxk&fe...
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
Isn't that an oxymoron? Republican politicians are all sociopaths and the people who vote for them are delusional.
The fifth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders is in preparation, for publication in May of 2013. Urge the panel preparing the manual to include Republicanism as a subclass of sociopathy.
It really is funny , what a clown show . Thank goodness they are doing themselves in because true to form the Democrats are not taking advantage of the hand they've been dealt .
Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .
scumbag secessionists have zero chance to win and destroy the government from within.
he's always wrong about everyone and everything, and he's supposed to be a Beltway Insider.
I know more than he does, and I'm not even in the Beltway loop, LOL
thinks Perry would be a formidable candidate, now that's the kiss of death.
Given that the oath of office requires the incoming President to "support and defend the Constitution of the United States", how can a man like Perry -- who's brought up the possibility of Texas becoming so fed up that it secedes from the Union and whose recent book reportedly includes statements calling the Sixteenth and Seventeenth Amendments "mistaken" -- possibly be considered a viable candidate for the White House? While we're at it,. the fact that Perry was required to use federal stimulus funds to pay off the state's budget deficit a year or two ago combined with the fact that he's been renting a deluxe mansion for nearly two years -- apparently at the expense of the taxpayers -- while the official state mansion's fire damage is being repaired does not really speak well for his sense of fiscal responsibility.
Clearly, Billy's high on "kristol meth"...
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
Oh pleeease pleeease pleeeeeease let the ticket be Perry/Palin 2012.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Then which way will krystol's penis be pointing towards then? We better have a hose ready too.
he is talking about Perry's chances of getting the nomination, not the Presidency. He even carefully prefaces his evaluation of Perry with "if you came down from Mars", indicating a lack of scrutiny would be needed to be impressed by the guy.
While "formidable " may be a bit of an overstatement, If he were to run, I'd peg Perry's chances at being the Republican nominee as better than those of Gingrich, Gulliani, Palin, Bachmann, Paul, Trump or Cain.
He'd likely get hammered in the general though, and at the end of the day, I think the republicans are going to choose someone they can peddle as a "serious" non-ideological candidate to the voting public at large, which is why Romney remains the odds-on favorite for the nomination.
Agreed.
It is nice of Fox to give us a peek at next year’s television shows. Elections for them are nothing more than next year’s fall line-up. Lucky us, we’ll soon get to see these faces on the teevee even more while in some waiting room next year.
Um…. Yea?
the one-eyed man is King."
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
There are few things that are sure in this life. Death, sure. Taxes, sure. But there is one more. Everything Bill Kristol says is always wrong. He is a breathing statistical anomaly. He alone disproves the adage that a broken clock is right twice a day.
I just need to get someone to give me a trust fund so I can short Rick Perry.
A broken digital clock is never right.
the time it broke.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
Maybe he can do for the country what he has done for Texas:
Nearly one in four Texans (23.8 percent) does not have health insurance, or almost 5.8 million people. This is a significant increase from 2008. Texas' poverty rate is the 8th worst among the 50 states, with 17.2 percent, or almost 4.2 million Texans living in poverty in 2009. Texas children had the 6th worst rate of poverty among the states, with one in four kids (24.4 percent), or 1.7 million, living below the poverty level in 2009.
The state is 25 Billion in debt and the public school dropout rate leads the nation.
This pathetic Governor is the best special interest money can buy
Bravo!
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
that is EXACTLY what the repubs and their overlords would like to have done for the rest of the country.
But as for being a formidable candidate...I think Kristol is actually dead on. I honestly don't think at this moment that he could beat Obama....but looking at the current republican lineup I feel like he could win the nomination with surprisingly little effort.
The scary part is not so much the candidates as the people who actually vote for them.
Man , you got that right .
Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .
When I hear something as scary as President Perry I want that information coming from someone who is always, absolutely , positively, always wrong about everything. Whew, I feel better.
For the Republican nomination, sure. With the people that have officially put their hat in the ring, yeah, Perry would have a great chance. "I mean, what do you need to be the Republican nominee? You need to have a proven record, I think, and you need to be accepted to and even exciting for Tea Party activist types. Perry checks both those boxes at once. I think Perry could be formidable if he got in." Notice he said NOTHING about actually beating Obama.
I've seen some stuff, man. And some thangs...
Have they forgotten what a great idea the last Republican candidate from Texas turned out to be?
Seriously "ya'll," if Perry becomes President I'm moving to another country and I make this comment putting all partisan politics aside. He is not what America needs right now.
-Axiomatic
(Native Texan)
if he decides to run in 2012.
How the hell should a secessionist idiot who has spent the last several years yammering about getting government off our backs, sovereign statehood is king, and government is the enemy, yada, yada, yada--expect anybody to take him seriously if he runs for President of one of the biggest governments on the planet?
What a maroon!
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
"Texas has created jobs over the last 10 years while he's been governor, while the rest of the country has not"
WOW! It is easy enough to check out whether this is true or not. And if it IS true and Perry becomes the nominee, with a record like that, as compared to BO's record, voting for Perry over BO would be a no-brainer for me. We need a President who knows what he's doing, who doesn't need on-the-job training, and Perry sounds like he's that kind of guy.
Dear Hawkeye,
As a Texan, I can say unequivocably that Perry has been a disaster for Texas. Most of the jobs that have been "created" are in the public sector. He has done his best to destroy our already pitiful education system, and also done his best to harm the women and children of this state with his draconian budget/laws. Please don't consider voting for this man. He is at least as bad as either Bush.
"If Perry were elected president, perhaps he would do for the entire United States what he's done for Texas, which ranks first in the nation in the percentage of the population without health insurance, and 45th in high school completion. We could return to grass-roots, state-driven environmental regulations, the kind that have made Texas the nation's leader in clean-water permit violations, hazardous waste spills and toxic emissions from manufacturing facilities".
Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .
(god forgive me for saying this) actually win the Presidency..
what would he secede from?
Humanity, but that's ok. We won't miss him.
"The next time I tell you someone from Texas should not be president of the United States, please, pay attention." Molly Ivins
Bloody Billy Kristol has been wrong for so long about so many things.
how this guy even has a job as a pundit is just proof of how stoopid we are as a society...oops, forgot...it's faux news....and who was his last fav choice that got him all excited...yeah, the grifter...the quitter...the one too stoopid to be prez...lots of credibility there, lil' billy....how fortunate you were to have parents whose mere position/social status gave you a career.....and, hard to believe, a platform to be treated as a credible source of opinion for any information....pathetic.....
Perry ran for re-election claiming that his Republican fiscal policies had saved the state of Texas from the kind of deficit free-fall that California was and is experiencing. Then... Whoops! ... it turned out that Texas was facing a 25 billion dollar shortfall if it wanted to barely keep up with its already low level of government activity.
The "balanced budget" Texas had to pass cut so many things so deeply -- education, health care, you name it -- and has so many potential holes in it that Perry would be glad to get away from the painful aftermath. But where can he go? Oh, I know... the White House!
Baja Arizona - A State of Mind
Is this the same Bill Kristol that thought Palin was the greatest ever in the whole world choice for VP? And, isn't Texas's debt the second highest in the nation with virtually no programs to cut to bring it into balance? Mr. Secede from the Union isn't even as bright as Palin and that is really pathetic.
I wish you folks would stop posting video clips of Ol' Lizard Lips.
Is it my imagination, or are his beady little eyes even MORE beady?!
Well, it looks like the 2012 race is starting to come out of the woodwork. Since politics is entertainment of the blood sport variety, the next 17 months could prove to be very entertaining. The Sunday edition of the San Francisco Chronicle has a fairly good article on 11 republican wantabees. They handicapped Guiliani at 200-1. The assemblyman of my California district, Dan Logue, and a group of republican lawmakers, have begun a movement to draft Perry according to the article. (Governator Ricky has done for Texas what Governator Arnie, the dork, wasn't quite able to do here in California, but came close. And that is ruin the state.) There were no odds given on Perry.
The Chronicle gave the best odds (5 to 1) to Tim Pawlenty, former republican governor of Minnesota, Romney was second with 7-1 odds, and Jon Huntsman, former governor of Utah, was third with 9-1 odds. It is my opinion that Huntsman would be the best candidate, because his biggest liabilities are his positions on gay civil unions and the pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants. If the r's were made up of a few more outspoken moderates, I believe that he would have the best chance of beating Obama (my opinion). Since the r's have chained themselves with outdated, idiotic ideas and values, Huntsman will never make the cut, which is too bad. The anger of the voters is not going to subside anytime soon and this election like the last three will be about change. And the Chronicle gave Santorum 5000 to 1 odds.
"Beat me with the truth, don’t torture me with lies." unknown
Boy is that a hoot. You Golden State residents keep fooling yourselves about the damage you have done to my birthplace.
Some of us were lucky enough to escape to Texas before California went bad. Unfortunately so many followed they are messing things up here as well.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
Let's see?! He stated that the "It's pop psychology that the Shias and Sunnis don't get along," when discussing the warring factions in Iraq. He suggested Sarah Palin to McCain. The guy is a blubbering mouthpiece.
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