Al Franken Demolishes GOP’s Anti-Thurgood Marshall Campaign
As Blue Texan at FDL noted, Al Franken laid waste to the GOP's anti-Thurgood Marshall Campaign and as they called it, their minority outreach program. Franken gives his "good friend" Lindsey Graham and the Republicans a little history lesson on what an "activist judge" is and why Justice Thurgood Marshall wasn't one of them.
Franken: You said there are three things that judges hold to when they’re not activists. You said that they respect precedent. They make narrow decisions and they defer to the political branches, in other words the legislature. And there are a lot of recent cases that we’ve been talking about that instinctively strike me and a lot of other people as falling outside of these three guidelines. And I think that in these cases the Supreme Court was legislating from the bench, which is being activist.
Franken goes on to discuss why the decisions in Circuit City v. Adams, Gross v. FBL Financial Services, Rent-a-Center v. Jackson, Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, Leegin Creative Leather Products, Inc. v. PSKS Inc., the Supreme Court would have fit into Kagan’s guidelines of what would define an “activist court” and noted that Republicans all “seem to like” those decisions. He went on to explain why there is no way that Brown v. Board of Education should be lumped in with those other cases and how it was “an exemplar of overturning a precedent that needed to be overturned.”
Franken: There are certain situations where the Supreme Court really should subject the law to a heightened scrutiny and this is what I think Justice Marshall was talking about when he said that the court should show “special solicitude for the despised and disadvantaged, the people who went unprotected by every other organ of government and who had no other champion.”
Now in the opening statements you were criticized for admiring Justice Marshall for believing this, but I actually think that this belief, Justice Marshall’s belief is just good, Constitutional law.
Are you familiar with Carolene Products… Carolene Products case of 1938?
Kagan: Yes sir.
Franken: Are you familiar with Footnote Four of that decision?
Kagan: Yes sir.
Franken: And you’re familiar with that because the footnote’s really important, isn’t it? It’s often taught in Constitutional law classes, whether they be in the first year or the second year or the third year, right?
Kagan: It is.
Franken: Can you tell me what that footnote says and why it’s important?
Kagan: Senator it seems as though you have it in front of you and you’re going to do a better job of it than I am at this moment.
Franken: You’re a mind reader. Footnote Four basically says that when courts interpret the Constitution and try to figure out whether a law complies with the Constitution, courts should give special scrutiny to laws that violate a specific part of the Constitution, that restrict the political process and that affect “religious, national, racial and discrete and insular minorities” who have a really hard time getting help through the normal political process.
Now to me discrete and insular minorities sounds a lot like the despised and disadvantaged that go unprotected and have no other champion. Is it safe to say that Justice Marshall’s belief is consistent with Carolene Products?
Kagan: Well there’s no doubt Sen. Franken that racial classifications are subject to very high scrutiny under the Equal Protection clause and have been so for a long time and the Equal Protection clause exists to ensure against discrimination on disfavored basis very much including in the archetypal example is race and that it is not only appropriate but obligatory on the courts to enforce that prohibition on discrimination on the basis of race.
Franken: So Justice Marshall’s belief that was criticized in the opening statements is really very consistent with established Constitutional law, isn’t it?
Kagan: Well Sen. Franken, I will say that when I wrote those words I was not speaking of Footnote Four in Carolene Products. I was speaking instead of what I’ve talked about several times at this hearing which is Justice Marshall’s deep belief in insuring a level playing field for all Americans and insuring that each and every American regardless of wealth or power or privilege, that each and every American gets fairly heard before the court and when I wrote that tribute to Justice Marshall and wrote those words that was very much what I had in mind.
Franken: So I’d like to leave you with this thought, okay. Justice Thurgood Marshall was one of the greatest lawyers, jurists in American history. This is a man who won Brown v. Board of Education, who helped end segregation in our nations’ schools and opened the doors to black Americans. This is a man who proved that separate but equal was inherently unequal.
Not only that but he served with distinction as Solicitor General, as a judge on the Second Circuit and as the first African American Supreme Court Justice. This is a giant of the American legal system. And I think what I really want to say is that Justice Marshall wasn’t some activist radical. Rather his views were very much in the mainstream and in line with Constitutional jurisprudence since 1938, since Carolene and before that. And I just think that we need to be aware of that and germane about it.
Kagan: Sen. Franken I’ll just say what I said on many occasions in the past which is that Justice Marshall is a hero of American law and a hero of mine.
Franken: And of mine. Thank you.
Al proves once again why any Republicans that dismiss him as just being a comedian, do so at their peril.





Like driftglass said the modern day republican lies and he does not care if you know he lies.
A hero of American Law! A great man! Hated by these bigots because he was black and the champion of the underdog.
In bizzaro republican world the underdog is to be taken advantage of.
I was talking to one of these abortion hating god loving republicans running a scam.
This is the way republicans I know think.
This guy bought a couple of hundred acres of land years ago. Nothing wrong with that. Over the years he got on some good term with a local bank and has a line of credit with a very low interest rate.
He buys reposses property. Then he acts like a realestate agent and a bank. He sells the property on a land contract. A set price plus 3,000. down and 10% interest. Most of the people he deals with have a hard time making the payments and after a while he gets to reposes it and sell it again. He does not care if you have a job or what your credit is like as long as you can come up with the 3 thousand down and start making the payments you've got it.
But this is the way they like it.
...that disallows people to sell their own real estate on an owner-assigned contract (unless to immediate family, which is spelled out.) Now anyone who wants to sell property in a private transaction must get a broker's license.
This totally screws people like us who can't get a traditional mortgage.
"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman
This asshole did just that thing. Hell I know one house he sold 5 times. He had a mobile he added a room to. This stoped the New buyer from being able to refinance it at a lower interest rate. They will not refinance a mobile that has been altered.
The Huffington Post's Jason Linkins joins Rachel Maddow do discuss the fringe groups, crackpots and colorful characters who are expressing their opposition to Elena Kagan's confirmation to the Supreme Court.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/vp/38049...
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common sense matters as much as truth
that put on white tights (not complimentary to his body, lol) and pranced around the stage in a very bad Mick Jagger impersonation back in the day. Once again "the clown" Al Franken puts his life-long political colleagues to shame.
I've seen some stuff, man. And some thangs...
He is a riot now. You said it he puts those putz's to shame.
I think he is a good man!
Yup. Agreed. Franken’s Senatorial peers try to write him off as just a clown. Al is no clown. I love to watch him disarm and demolish those people. He does so with wit, humor, and unmatched intelligence. Al has no trouble laughing at himself. He also has no trouble making us laugh at those other idiots.
He is quite intelligent and must also have a great staff to have researched a footnote (!) in a Supreme Court decision that has become precedent. Franken comes off as much more dignified, intelligent and prepared than his colleagues across the aisle. I love Al Franken! To Kagan's and Franken's admissions ("and mine") that Justice Thurgood Marshall is a hero of American law and of theirs, too, may I add my own, "and mine."
Franken had a dedicated staff of mostly college students when he wrote his books. Their research was very thorough and he acknowledged their efforts.
I had just looked up a picture of Thurgood Marshall and was trying to imagine him dressed as Mick Jagger. I'm getting a late start today and need more coffee!
Terry, you've made the end of my week a good one. I sat here for a good ten minutes laughing at your image of Marshall dressed as Jagger.
Thanks for the laugh!!
Ooooh, I beg to differ. Al Franken wore those tights better than Jagger ever could. Quite the hot little body, in fact. He was a fine athlete in his youth.
But I digress...
A brilliant man indeed. Thank God he made it into the Senate. Few people are more deserving.
indeed. And Al Franken is as smart as they come.
You never, ever, want to be on the other side of a debate with Senator Franken. You will lose.
Al Franken is as smart as they come
Indeed he is. And if Paul Wellstone could have seen any part of this, I'm sure he'd have been smiling. Al is proving himself to be a worthy successor.
My wife and I had the distinct pleasure of attending a Franken event in Litchfield, MN in 2007, early in his campaign. I had the opportunity to speak to him briefly and mention that in my opinion he would be a worthy successor to fill Paul Wellstone's shoes. Al appeared choked up for a minute and then stated what a terrible tragedy it was that we lost Paul, and that it would indeed be a great honor to carry on the work that he had started.
Kind of hard to believe those two guys come from the same state as Michelle Bachmann, isn't it?
Sorry to correct you, but Bachmann is from a different planet than Wellstone and Franken.
Washingting D.C. Live!
- Defends Thurgood Marshall's reputation.
- Shows Kagan's knowledge of precedent.
- Makes the GOP WATB brigade of Sessions/Graham/Specter look ... well, like WATBs.
game,
set,
match!
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But my favorite clip from all of this is when Graham asked her
" Where were you on Christmas"?
And her immediate reply was to laugh in their face.
Then say, Like all Jews, I was probably in a Chinese restaurant.
I luved it when she laughed in their faces.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
but that is where you will find me, too, on Christmas Day. Nothing like a good Asian meal ened with an Irish Coffee to celebrate the Winter Solstice!
I've seen some stuff, man. And some thangs...
So that should keep the Wing Nut's nerves on the edge enough to "fair and balance" the stress. And keep Big Pharm happy.
Me, that is....I had reservations about Al Franken becoming a Senator...an infamous YouTube video where he gets into a screaming match with Bill O'Reilly at a bookfair panel, I think it was....really turned me off. I've since learned more about him than his entertainment side.
Of course, I had no doubt Norm Coleman was a total asshat, and I was right there...
My apologies for doubting you Senator.
that screaming match with O'Lielly resulted in a best-selling book for Franken: "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them", which garnered him more millions, which probably helped greatly in supporting his run for the Senate. Al Franken is one of the smartest people in the Congress...maybe we'll live long enough to be saying, "President Franken." After all, if a B grade, Alzheimer's victim like Ronald Reagan can be president, why not a brilliant comic like Franken?
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
What if he chose Ben Stein as his running mate? Best. Bumpersticker. Ever!
[Franken-Stein 2016]
While I admire the sentiment, Ben Stein is a turdblossom.
Before enlightenment - chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment - chop wood, carry water.
Absolutely, Stein reeks. Is there a progressive Stein that Al could run with?
scream at oliar! LOL!
he sued him and wrote a book about it.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
Hilarious!
and thought it was an excellent moment from Al. There just has to be a point where you call the liar a liar in any venue. Yes, I know, my mommy taught me to be polite in public too, but there comes a time when you have to stand up for what's right regardless of courtesy.
For some reason there is this weird expectation, in this country, for liberals to be in the best behavior all the time and take all sorts of abuse with a smiling face and the upmost positive predisposition.
In that exchange with O'reilly, Franken never stopped being polite, he refused to be victimized though. Maybe the previous poster found that very disagreeable?
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
That does not compute. What exactly did Al Franken do wrong here?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpOSgT-osHk
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
He didn't cower like a whipped dog.
Not only is Fraken smart, he does his homework and hell, he can draw too. Did everyone see that picture of Sessions he sketched? Sessions wanted him to give it to him and autograph it.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
I saw the bit where he drew a US map from memory with every state and auctioned it on the spot.
like that....She probably can't even name the 50 states, let alone know where they are on the map.
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpbpzif7jGk
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Franken Characters. LOl.
but the Smalley episode with Michael Jordan was pretty darn funny.
I've seen some stuff, man. And some thangs...
Al Franken yet again models for the body politic diplomacy in style and a focus on relevant content. My hope is that Mr. Franken will continue to serve as an example to the pathetic WATBs of how to engage in relevant political discourse without name-calling or dissembling.
Graham et. al. were too stupid to realize they were just made the fool. Count on that.
And franken has a keen mind, but perhaps it's lost on the mental midgets he sits with and the folks who vote them into office.
Social anosognosia, when a group of people, perhaps even society at large, devolve into a state of destructive cluelessness.
That's why satire is so great. Whether or not the target gets it, he comes off as a fool - a lot more so if he doesn't get it.
How does that work?
"That's fu*#ing retarded."
Big City Mayor
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CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
It's even better with the target takes it seriously. Means he doesn't have a clue...
he understands what justice is.
questioning the continuing legacy of lies, deception, and fraud, while securing the power of the corporate capitalistic oligarchs, who drove the jobs out of the country, stole the working person's wealth in a funnel-up process of bailouts being practiced by his colleagues.
Failing that he can try for an HBO special.
"That's fu*#ing retarded."
Big City Mayor
who said . . "Main Street is never again held responsible for Wall Street's mistakes" in his speech.
"Mistakes? They were deliberate, calculated, criminal acts Mr. President how can you call them mistakes."
... little people commit crimes.
See the difference?
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
because he is one of their wholly owned shills. No other reason.
I loved the way he seemed to say "My Friend Senator Graham" through tightly clenched teeth.
Graham giving a little wink back to Senator Frankin. (As if Graham thought he new what Senator Frankin was going to discuss).
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. ~ Abraham Lincoln
was his sphincter tightening.
"Trading Places" in which he portrayed a baggage handler. Now he's handling baggage (Republicans) for real. Man, I wish he was our Senator..but I live in the wrong state.
He played a facilitator in that very funny prison rape metaphor involving a gorilla. I am sure many commenters would enjoy replaying that for ideas while the site monitor cringes.
"That's fu*#ing retarded."
Big City Mayor
said he was going to run for the Senate....
Who's laughing now, fools!
“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
AMEN
the very thought that BillO just can't take that Franken is this politically saavy and smart . . . something lost on the falafel king's playbook
who called Marshall an "activist" were playing to their racist constituents, a more local strategy. The Dems should be all over this to help their cause in Nov in a broader sense. Unfortunately we have more Ben Nelson's in the Dem party than Al Franken's.
where the sun has refused to shine. U dah man, Al.
Al Franken is one of the few friends the American people have in Washington. and it's sad that so many of the people he fights for who are right-wing and have nothing good to say about him. But he keeps fighting for your sorry right wing ass anyway.
Franken is a man of the people! And with so few fighting for us and so many fighting against us, we need to support people like Franken and Feingold and let those who are on the fence know that we are coming for their seats! - but this is America and we simply won't win, because too many of the people simply don't care.
Franken is a nice addition to the Hill. I don't get to say that very often.
Goodnight, Frau Blücher
... can be counted with a single hand. One can start making the case about a big chunk of the population being taxed without getting much in terms of representation.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
the Supreme Court nominee.
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"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
I hope Obama gets a chance to replace any/all of those worthless Bush appointees ,but Minnesota would need to find a decent senator to take Al's place. Maybe we could just have him cloned?
Does Georgetown offer night school options?
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
There's no actual requirement for justices to have been judges, or even to be attorneys. It's quite possible to be an accomplished Constitutional scholar and expert without having a JD or being an attorney (yes, two different things).
Sen. Franken makes up for that nutbag Rep. Crazy Eyes of Minnesota.
I recall all the snarky comments that Minnesota elected a comedian.....
well, if that be the case, we could sure use of a whole lot more Frankens and fewer Sessions.
When Al Franken was running, I predicted that he would very quickly rise to the ranks of the great in the Senate. So far, I haven't been disappointed. I wish I could afford to move to Minnesota so I could vote for him in 2014. Oh, well, I live in Wisconsin and vote for Russ Feingold, which is just as good. Herb Kohl is okay. We have some pretty rotten representatives in this state - Sensenbrenner, Ryan...I'm thankful I don't live in their districts.
you don't live in Nebraska too.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. ~ Abraham Lincoln
I never donated a cent to a political campaign until Al Franken decided to run. He is definately a man of the people. I actually just wrote him an email thanking him for all that he has done so far. I love watching him give the right wingers the smackdown they deserve. Al ran a great campaign and infact on election day my car broke down and I needed a ride to my polling place and one of Al's staffers offered to come pick me up and bring me to the polling station. What a guy!!! Thanks Senator Franken. You. Are. The Man!
How can Minnesota elect such a brilliant guy and then present America Bachmann?
cannot think for themselves. They are your typical right wing rednecks. Hopefully they have smartened up in the last 18 months and paid attention to the world around them.
I was very impressed with Franken's poise during the recount for the Senate seat. He has way out reached any expectations that probably anyone may have had for him.
I was listening to that part of the hearing in the car yesterday and I was cheering by end of his presentation.
Franken has been the class act of this Congress' Frosh class in so many instances.
Just Wow.
was awesome in his definition of activist judges and in the defense of Justice Marshall, who really shouldnt need to be defended. But he was a black man and we all know how the refucks feel about black people. (Im white, BTW.) Even dead people arent exempt from the refucks' lying lies. (LOVED that book; great title!) I believe that Senator Franken will go down in history as one of the most intelligent, most respected senators of all time! Im so glad he never gave up in the fight for the election recount! Hopefully, some day we'll be calling him President Franken. KUDOS, SENATOR!
He's got my vote if and when the time ever comes!
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Al tried to lead her into defending Marshall, and as far as brass tacks? She ducked and weaved. Wouldn't commmit to much.
That is all that's required, apparently.
These confirmations are a trip to bizarro world.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
She's been coached. Like she said, "a vapid and hollow charade". She gets confirmed playing the game. She plays well, but it's still vapid and hallow.
Well, she did say he was one of her hero's.
For the most part, it seems like the hearings aren't about learning anything about the candidate - the candidate's already been researched 40 ways to Sunday and the dossier spread far and wide to anyone even remotely interested. It's simply a test to see if a nominee can avoid saying anything horribly off the wall while being questioned by people that, for the most part, have no actual expertise or knowledge of the role of the Court or the legal history.
Which, to me, makes it an added bonus that Franken could (a) speak about the actual subject at hand, and (b) speak intelligently about it to boot.
Al Franken for President
..because the damned Yankee federal government took his granddaddy's slaves away after the Civil War. Let's face facts: a lot of the people that fill seats in the Senate and House are there only because they are wealthy - and some are only wealthy because they inherited the money their ancestors made on plantations.
"In theory theory and practice are alike. In practice they are very different."
I see a lot of comments about Sen.Franken's smarts, and I couldn't agree more. But there's another element to his character that needs mentioning, and that's his integrity. He's a wonderful senator and a true inspiration for those who still think public service can be a noble thing.
Plus the self confidence not to need a trophy wife.
"That's fu*#ing retarded."
Big City Mayor
while this was going on?
God and Paul Wellstone were high-fiving.
Way to go Al. Way to bring honor back to that seat.
"Better." It's what we should ask of ourselves and of our leaders.
I don't know if any other Dems. did it, but I knew he make sense to the right-wingers with all their jibberish.
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