Santorum: Marriage Prevents Poverty -- Unless You're Gay
Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum says that everyone but gay men and lesbians can stay out of poverty by just getting married.
At a campaign event in Muscatine, Iowa Thursday, a questioner asked Santorum how his anti-poverty plan would help the gays who can't legally marry in 45 states.
"If you graduate from high school, you get married before you have children, and of course you work -- that's sort of a given, you have to work -- you do those three things, there's a 2 percent chance you'll be in poverty," the candidate said, referring to a 2009 Brookings Institution study.
"It's important to value the institution of marriage. Because the institution of marriage is where men and women bond together for the purposes of having and raising children, and giving children their birthright, which is a mom and a dad," Santorum explained. "And so what we need to have is have a society that promotes that because that has an intrinsic value that is better than every other relationship."
"I love it when the left says, 'Quit trying to impose your morality on us!' What's that? That's their morality and they are now imposing it on us," the Pennsylvania conservative said of declining marriage rates. "They want to drive faith and faith and moral conclusions that come from faith out of the public square and out of the public law and replace it with their values. Don't give me this idea -- I hear this: 'Oh, you're a moralist. You're trying to impose your values.' Everybody's trying to impose their values. That's what America's about."
"You're trying to impose your values," the candidate said, pointing to the young man that asked the question. "You have every right to do so. Come into the public square. Make your case as to why same sex marriage should be the law of the land. I have no problem with that at all, but accept the fact that other people that disagree with you don't hate people that disagree with them. They just happen to believe that marriage is a good that should be preserved."
But a recent study (PDF) by Economic Policy Institute indicated that Santorum may have things backwards.
"Continually high poverty rates among blacks and Latinos are the result of high unemployment and incarceration rates and declining shares of good jobs in the American economy," report author Algernon Austin wrote. "The decline in marriage among these groups is a collateral consequence of these negative economic conditions."
A 2009 Williams Institute report found that same sex couples were significantly impacted by marriage discrimination because they could not jointly file federal tax returns, transfer property, receive Social Security survival benefits and other factors.





"If you graduate from high school, you get married before you have children, and of course you work -- that's sort of a given, you have to work -- you do those three things, there's a 2 percent chance you'll be in poverty,"
Ya know, if I really wanted to be in poverty I would want much better odds. I think Rick (don't google my name) Santorum is 98% certifiable Narcissist, and in the fringe, same way I look at FuksNews, news for dumb fux.
.' Everybody's trying to impose their values. That's what America's about." All you 'value imposers', do the letters F O mean anything to you? That's what the U.S. should be about. No bullshi*
to eliminate the head of household and enumerated kiddie deductions and the 'Thugs will change their tune.
How about a tax credit for being smart enough to keep my c*ck wrapped up or in my pants? Where's my "No Need to Go on Maury to Figure Out Who Knocked up My Ex" tax credit? Why should I get more money back from the Feds if my sperm knocked up that woman?
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
I don't normally do this, but ...+1
I just saw Ed Schultz's interview of Santorum. Apparently, Santorum is making a surge in Iowa. During the interview Santorum said that any Republican governor who claims that he created jobs while in office does not know conservative principles, because government can't create jobs. GWBush always claimed that, and so does Perry. And Santorum was referring to Romney's claim. Well, that's Republicans make the claim all the time that tax cuts create jobs. That's government action! So which is it Santorum? Santorum is a tool. Almost all Pennsylvanians hate him.
I've been hearing that tossed about a lot lately, even that he's tripled his numbers. Naturally, one wonders if that was from 1% to 3%?
God, he's such a dick.
Um, in Iowa, same sex marriage IS the law of the land. Make YOUR case why it shouldn't be, assclown.
Biblical literalist who figures since God made the sun stand still and changed the direction of the earth's rotation on the say-so of a desert holy man, the the clock can be turned back and the djinn can be put back in the bottle...
Sorry, Frothy the Showman, didn't happen in the first case, and ain't gonna in the latter...
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
If he's making a surge in Iowa, it's merely another sign that wingnuts are looking to put anyone but Romney on the ticket, except there isn't a single Republican contender that's worthy of the job of Dog Shit Picker-Upper, let alone President. None. Nada. Zip. Zero. Zilch.
"Whatever your particular problem is, I promise you, the Republicans are not the least bit interested in solving it. They are interested in two things, and two things only: making you afraid of it, and telling you who's to blame for it."
Nah. He's making a surge because he's done more campaigning there than anyone.
As I've stated before, unless President Obama barbecues Kim Kardashian's dog on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, it's increasingly obvious he's going to be in the Oval Office until 2016.
I really believe the R power brokers know this, and are letting their crazies run amok... look to mid-2014 for deadly seriousness, though... very concerning...
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
"unless President Obama barbecues Kim Kardashian's dog on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial, it's increasingly obvious he's going to be in the Oval Office until 2016."
Even if he does that, I'd say it depends on what kind of dog she has...
That said, we still need to work our asses off, then go out and vote!
Remember, the TeaTardicans only need a couple of seats in the Senate to take the majority back.
Oh... I do think it would matter about the BBQ... but I'd think we'd form a committee to discuss that... /smile
And allow me to say that my comment was not an endorsement of staying home and considering voting as a pointless exercise... the Presidential election, while big and flashy, is really the least important of the elections... overstating the obvious, but apparently it needs to be resaid that all politics is truly local.
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
I thought it said "Dog Shit Packer"......Then, "Man on Dog" popped into my mind. not good. no no no no no no no. brain bleach stat!
What is your conceptual, continuity?
Not enough brain bleach in existence for cleansing some of the things that've tromped through my brain wearing shit-covered boots during this extended season of stupid...
Gotta see if there's a way to order it by the pallet, if this keeps up...
/s
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
wonder what Professional Christians like pRick Santorum have hiding in the closet? Like pictures of him dressed as the transvestite truck driver from 'Cops'? This guy is obsessed with gay people! And he needs to shave that beard.
Mr. Frothy is #2 on Bing, (smells like #2 also), no kidding.
"that's the secret password that we use down at the club"
i wonder if santorum realizes how many "gay babies" all those
"straight couples" will make from those "normal" marriages?
we know that gay couples don't make babies, but they do
adopt many of the "unwanted" children that come out of
all those "happy and normal" marriages.
" You're trying to impose your values.' Everybody's trying to impose their values. That's what America's about."
HAHAHA!!! Yeah. Imposing your values on others is what America is all about. What a Santorum.
yeah, I'm sure this is the same morality that Wall Street used to crash the economy. As long as they aren't gay, it's OK.
I had lots of money before I got married. Then it wasn't mine,anymore. Gays should be allowed to enjoy marital bliss as the rest of US do. That's a real 'sharing the wealth.'
Men generally make more than women. gay men cant have kids.... (and there are some of us that actually don't feel obligated to ape whatever our breeder friends are up-to).
same sex male couples, with expendable dual incomes, and no kids to raise or college to pay for..... yeah. that's right. some of us fags are in a lot better shape financially than any of the Santorum followers will ever be.
have fun at church.
Boy, did you read me wrong. I was being snarky and using an accepted humorous concept. Read my past comments,pal. I'm more 'Liberal' than anyone here. I've had a long life of dealing with all folks of all stripes,and the thing I've learned is if you can't laugh at yourself,you missed the point of this trip. And,no you won't see me in church. I spent a half lifetime getting out of going. GOD bless.Be happy. Do no harm.
I understood your post... i was adding to your snarky idea with more snarkiness..
ha ha.
I didnt intend to imply you were one of them. ;O)
Little Frothy must have the largest rectal cavity on the planet judging by the amount of complete bullshit he keeps pulling out of it.
Generally speaking I don't trust anyone making over 150K a year.
are a very successful tag team in that function.
I guess my hubby and I failed our marriage.
They get lambasted for their 'promiscuous behavior (doing acts that streights do every day of every year) and then,when they want to join The Establishment,they get denied again.The Repugs wish for a world where everyone is just like them,but their GOD just won't listen. No wonder they're so fucked up.
so much change in the ballots of who is ahead, I wonder if the republicans are controlling them or Fox?
Polls are for suckers and pole sitters.
He really is the control freaks control freak, innit?
was a sad tortured soul
with a bunch of desperate wedge issues
and tortured logic to boot
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
Frothy the assclown was a sad and tortured soul
With a nasty name that Google knows (note: see 'Santorum')
and a heart as black as coal...
me-oww!
If anyone can make it work with a reference to "man on dog" I will be forever indebted to you.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
and saw a few possibilities, but I'm sure it'd be deleted...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Is this all the guy ever talks about, gays, gay marriage, gay sex??
far left loon >.<
cares most about...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Yes
If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.
George Carlin
That's a rhetorical question, right?
"Whatever your particular problem is, I promise you, the Republicans are not the least bit interested in solving it. They are interested in two things, and two things only: making you afraid of it, and telling you who's to blame for it."
it's because you know he wants it. Why else would he think of gay stuff and talk about it all the time?
If he hasn't tried it, you know the curiosity, the forbidden nature of something that could be oh so good--even great--is tearing him up.
me-oww!
I've met a lot of those guys over the years.
far left loon >.<
I got hit on by gays all the time and girlfriends were bi- it fucked me up for a while,until I took it as a compliment and been secure ever since.
about anyone who can manage to brush off a hit from the gender that isn't correct for them gracefully. I know it's different for most women, but it's never bothered me, an inquiry from a gal. How are you going to know [in some cases anyway] if you don't ask?
me-oww!
occasionally by guys. Doesn't bother me.
If I'm not interested in someone (really doesn't matter the sex), I just tell 'em so. No biggie.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
It bothers some though. 'Gay Panic' is the name they made up for the pussies that can't take it.
me-oww!
Friend of the family's openly and joyously gay... flirts every time I see him... tells my wife "what a waste..."
Based on the fact that he's a great guy and a wonderful person, I am as honored and flattered as I would be were it a woman to do the same... and as bewildered at why anyone considers this 50-something old hippie as worthy of checking out...
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
Never been able to figure out why someone's sexuality needs to be derided just because I'm not attracted to them. Life's too damn short.
Peace.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Maybe it's not the long hair. Maybe you're HOT.
far left loon >.<
At least my mom still thinks so...
;)
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
I got hit on by straight guys. Usually at parties when it was getting latish and they'd had some drinks.
far left loon >.<
Hey Frothy! How about giving the "sanctity of marriage" lecture to your buddy, Newt. Nobody needs it more than that pathetic assclown.
If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.
George Carlin
Two ears, one nose and a mouth you will have a ............% chance of not being in poverty, if you also have two working legs and arms this also increases your chances. What a twat, what a typical Brooking's twat "study", like Frothy said his buddy 'put it together'.
The first casualty of republicanism is the truth.
Party politics are not only undemocratic, they are antidemocratic.
...with Santorum. I'm waiting for him to weigh in on left handed people and their relationship with Satan. Seriously...? Where do they find these people?
Speaking as a leftie in all ways, natural and political... I'll not welcome that...
And, my sick little mind went terrible places at the thought of a Santorum bubble...
AAAAaaack!
Yo, mudshark...
gonna hang on to that damn brainbleach all damned day, or what?!
/lol
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
There Ain't Enough Brain Bleach in the Whole Wide World. !
maybe battery acid? I hear it's popular at the GOp debates. ;)
What is your conceptual, continuity?
The sniping at each other at those things sure is acidic...
But they're so cute when they quarrel amongst themselves... kindergarten sandbox from hell.
In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose
Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com
And rejecting you at the ballot box (and all of your clown friends running for president) prevents poverty, too.
with the aftermath of anal sex, you would think he's back off the anti gay theme. Is this the same guy who said that he wanted to go to war with China?
is coming back into the spot light because he is just as stupid as the rest of the Republicans.
That claim is so lacking in factual or even empirical foundation that one has to wonder what level IQ could even come up with the concept, and then be foolish enough to say it out loud before a national audience.
what level IQ could even come up with the concept
Rick Santorum's level
far left loon >.<
Can't literal Rick just focus his energy on Red Lobster, Gorton's, and Long John Silver's already???
Leviticus 11:10-12
10 And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:
11 They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.
12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.
So a gay man dressed as a lobster plooking another gay man dressed as a shrimp would be like, what; triple-distilled hardcore sin?
indoctrinated children has this fascist bigot polluted the planet with???
Peter Everts
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