Plouffe won't rule out Clinton running for president in 2012
Although Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has said that she has no intention in running for president again, President Barack Obama's former campaign manager wouldn't rule it out Sunday.
David Plouffe told NBC's David Gregory that he doesn't anticipate an Democratic challenger but deflected questions about a possible Clinton run.
"Do you envision a primary challenge from another Democrat in 2012 against this president?" asked Gregory.
"I can't imagine that," replied Plouffe.
"Can you rule out based on actual information that Secretary of State Clinton would not pursue the presidency again and would not challenge President Obama?" Gregory wondered.
"You saw this week they're working so well together. Working on Middle East peace and it's a wonderful partnership. I think that was a really inspired choice by the president and Secretary of State Clinton is doing a remarkable job," said Plouffe.
"Is that yes, no or maybe?" pressed Gregory.
"They're a team and a great team for America," Plouffe answered.
In a 2009 NBC interview, Clinton said "no" three times when asked if she would run for president again.
(Nicole:) Gregory puts Plouffe in the impossible position of having to "prove" a negative. Nice.
The media just can't get enough of these "Hillary Clinton Backstabber" narratives. It doesn't matter how many times Clinton denies it, it doesn't matter how much support Obama gives her in her position of Secretary of State, the media loves this insinuation that Clinton is just itching to undermine Obama and grab all the power herself. It's sick and sexist against Clinton and it further pushes the "Obama is an ineffectual wimp" meme as well that the Republicans love so much.
when it is put into search engine mode?
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
I wanted howard dean to run against obama in the primaries, but then he came out against Cordoba House, and I'm grasping at straws.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I wish we could get Howard Dean back at the helm of the Democratic National Committee. He did a great job with his no nonsense style and progressive values. His 50 state strategy paid off big time even though all the corporate Dems criticized it. Screw the corporate Dems.
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
won the election and gave you the blue dogs that go with that strategy.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
the blue dogs were Rahm's guys.
Rahm and Dean both worked to get very different groups elected.
Rahm helped the blue dogs, and tried to torpedo as many of Dean's candidates as possible.
it doesn't take long to look that up, not that you actually give a shit.
if anything it resulted in fewer blue dogs.
he questioned whether it was smart to build it where it has been chosen to be built
there is a difference
and let me say, that if the left becomes just like the right, having a litmus test and if one fails even one part of that test, that person is no longer a viable candidate...there are gonna be lots more people in the middle
Or is that Screamappeasement. :)
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
Someone saying in general what is wrong with the left is the one with the litmus test.
Haven't you heard, supposedly I work for the NSA.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
one slip and you are screwed.
When you fracture your cranium, one slip is plenty.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
If she felt she could raise the money and the votes..she will not be able to resist...But she would be wise to do a decent job in the one she was given by Obama...So far she has let Mitchell, Holbrooke and Jones do the heavy lifting and just shows up for photo-ops and speeches!
Besides bclinton is still ticked about all those years planning and plotting and setting her up to lose to Obama! As An Aside..bclinton looks ill lately!!!
If Obama was supposed to be a liberal then what would that make Hillary? Until we get a real leftist socialist with a herd of commies in Congress, this country will continue to fall.
LimpBalls
A good leftist and a herd of commies kept that fake Empire together for another 70 years.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
Trial balloon floated.
I hate this tripe. These two obviously talked about this before they went on air, and both heard Clinton wants a primary challenge, for some reason. So, instead of talking about the reasons for a Clinton primary challenge, we get this fake "aw, you can't make me say it on TV, you know that." B.S. Broadcast news sucks.
Trial balloon has no air.
Gregory trying to make something out of nothing.
Plouffe who?
Why isn't Gregory talking about policy ffs?
This isn't journalism.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Chelsea?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
We need to get a better transparency system in place so we don't have any more election day shenanigans from people like Diebold. Look at that guy from South Carolina just recently.. Greene. What a joke, come on. We can't rely on this stuff anymore. Fixing the Election System should be a top priority on any progressive party platform!!!
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
Is a right-wing toadie. He didn't press Miss Lindsey at all when she stated that the stimulus was a total failure & was the reason behind 2.5 million job lost. He browbeat Plouffe on every point he made. Then to top off the shit cake was the appearance of the dip-shit (She winked at me & I came) Rich Lowry. Tim Russert is spinning in his grave.
It's not all or nothing.
Russert was a toady too.
seems to play to the same media meme."The media just can't get enough of these "Hillary Clinton Backstabber" narratives. It doesn't matter how many times Clinton denies it, it doesn't matter how much support Obama gives her in her position of Secretary of State, the media loves this insinuation that Clinton is just itching to undermine Obama and grab all the power.."
Hasa Diga Eebowai
It's the burlap panties...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I wish somebody on the democratic side would take the reigns of power.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
why would any man want to face another four years of crap thrown at him by both sides of the aisle?
Somehow I doubt "delicate sensibilities" is part of the psyche of a politician on the state or national level.
If only......,
But really, are you serious? He has been running for his 2nd term from the git-go.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
he deserves it. One side keeps chucking crap because he is spineless and the other side because he is such a slimy liar. The great messiah's expiry date is long past.
This is why David Gregory got this job. He's as ineffectual as the other White House Correspondents. They are ignorant and unimaginative. It's one of the dumber questions he asked. Just like Jake Tapper tweeting Palin for an interview. These people are better suited for Access Hollywood than political reporting. Plouffe would have been better off simply telling Gregory that he should probably direct that question to Clinton but, judging from what he's heard from her in press reports, that would be a no. It's the only way to deal with these tabloid, surogate questions that our incompetent media like to pose. Just look at how many celebrities were asked about Sandra Bullock's marital problems. It's like they couldn't ask Sandra so, they just asked any celeb they encountered. It's lazy, stupid and embarrassing. Which is also how I'd describe them.
This wouldn't even be a lateral move for Progressives.
there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of difference to me.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
David Gregory is a republican. He asks some of the dumbest questions. There are a ton of issues in this country and this hack asks about Hillary Clinton. How idiotic an interviewer.
Hillary lost fair and square to Obama. She can run all she wants. She will lose again.
to want the job right now. I mean besides Palin.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
Frustrated?
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
I'd be perfectly willing to berate the Republicans for that kind of money.
Hillary running for President in 2012 could get me motivated to vote....Republican.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
So you would vote for Hillary then? Or would it be the other DLC republican we already have?
Honestly, when I hear people say we should have picked Hillary because Obama turned out to be a corporate tool - I have to try very hard not to burst out laughing.
My favorite Hillary line was at the start of the primaries when she said "corporations are people too. They have every bit as much right to address their government as you or I."
Sounds like a real champion of the people.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
How about?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlmGknvr_Pg
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I predict Barry will walk into the sunset after his first term for the lack of "hope and change" and personal disappointments. Whatever, lets face it , Barry is only good at speeches and they are getting tiresome as of late. You know, the "fool me once" syndrome is setting in with Dems, and Barry, I believe, is getting pretty bored with it and all the negativity. Elitists get bored quick like. He likes that pickup basketball with celebs. Then Hillary will pick up the torch, with Bubba in tow. This deal was probably sealed when Hillary capitulated her campaign. Does anyone remember the secret meetings around that time? Anyway, part of the withdrawal package was her getting the Secretary of State slot, to allow her to seem more "worldly" during Barry's term. Try and wrap your head around that one. Then back to same old same, Hillary and Bubba. Can you imagine how pissed off the Repugs will be then, if and when.
Your record's scratched...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
could Hillary be any more a screw up than Barry? She would probably keep Pit Bull Emanuel.
Taking multiple factors into consideration when evaluating someones performance might suit you better.
The Byrds sang "Turn, Turn, Turn" not spin, spin, spin.
It's not all or nothing.
It's just taking a little longer than you expected, i suspect. Stay the course Stevei. Stay the coarse.
Barry is the best.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Anyone can be president and we'd have the same problem. The real problem is the Republicans in the house and senate. They are way off base on this story.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Yes, being outnumbered 60-40 then 59-41 certainly gives you the upper hand.
And with the democrats only holding about 80 more House seats than the GOP, what can they possibly get done?
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
the house has passed most of the bill. It's the senate that has stalled most of them.
...happening, but if she ran, I might support her. She didn't tell us in 2008 that she was going to fundamentally change the way we do business in this country, so my expectations for her would be considerably lower than for the now timid Obama.
I can't imagine Obama not running, but that's what I'm hoping for -- I'm not enthusiastic about a second Obama term at all.
"I'm not enthusiastic about a second Obama term at all." , I am not enthusiastic or optimistic about anything going on in this country , it looks real friggin bleak .
I thought the Republican meme was that Obama is a socialist, marxist, fascist, terrorist, Muslim-Christian-atheist who's going to destroy the country from within. How can they claim he's also an ineffectual wimp without contradicting...? Oh, right. Nevermind.
Something to think about, for certain. But do you really think that Hillary would actually make the switch back to the Republican Party?
I could see a few personality conflicts versus some Republican pundits with her "conversion", but overall it could be a good, perhaps even successful campaign for her. Imagine a Republican Clinton/Romney or Clinton/Paulenty ticket - awesome.
But I believe Hillary is far too conservative a corporatist shill for a 2012 run on the Democratic Party ticket, unless of course the Democrats mean to intentionally "throw the game" in 2012 (not out of the question, either). Instead, I see a populist "screaming nut-case" ticket as being successful for the Democrats in 2012. Some combination of Congressmen Grayson, Kucinich, Senator Franken, and Howard Dean would do wonders for reuniting the fractured Democratic Party -- articulate, populist, and full of vim & vinegar.
Obama is so, so obsolete -- already a lame duck.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-- John F. Kennedy
..in 2012. It will end with the election of a republican't, probably palin, in november and the Earth will literally fold in on itself in December. Yep, you learn something new every election cycle. First, it was never vote for republican'ts and now its never vote for hope and change when its emphasized in speeches. What this country needed after the eight disasterous years of the bush war crime syndicate was a leader. I wish we would have elected one. I hate dealing with lawyers who are "compromisers"; they're the worst. A leader would have taken charge and showed the country what the problems are, who was responsible and how they would be made to pay for those problems and showed us a path back as arduous as that path might be. If he was going to start with health care, he wouldn't have started with single payer and not given up anything past public option and that phrase would not been viewed with such negativity. He would have forced the reversals of policies that got us into our economic mess and if they were blocked, everyone would know by who and why. Top of their lungs, 24/7 until the ignorant in this country understand that the right is only interested in making the wealthy wealthier and making paupers out of the rest of us. Reverse devastating tax cuts for the wealthy...on and on and on. The leader we needed to reverse the problems of this country needed to be progressive and I guess the Democratic Party was too stupid to realize that. I am so glad that we won't have to worry about this crap after December 2012 because if we did, we'd likely be living in some Terminator, Book of Eli, kind of world by 2016.
Sorry I just felt like ranting with paranoid fantasies this morning.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
Although I voted for Obama, any dem that runs against Obama in '012 gets my vote, period!
There is still a lot of Hillary hate among liberals. Go figure.
...why would Obama's former campaign manager be in any sort of position to know one way or the other whether Hillary might be thinking of running? Wouldn't Hillary's former campaign manager be at least a marginally more logical person to ask?
This is one of the things which I positively loathe about today's mainstream news media...the way in which reporters these days invite and encourage speculation from people who as often as not aren't really in a position to actually have any details, and then passing off these guesses as news. It's a bit like asking a mechanical engineer what you should do about your wilting begonias -- he'll probably have an opinion, but that doesn't mean it's an educated opinion! If you ask me, people like Walter Cronkite and Edward R. Murrow must be rolling in their graves with the knowledge of what we've allowed news journalism to become.
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
"It's sick and sexist against Clinton"
Oh bullshit.
They know large segments of the Democratic base are unhappy and may not vote for Obama again, so they try and salvage the situation by floating the name of the one person who would be most likely to do exactly the same as Obama. It would be business as usual if she ran and actually got elected, which is just what the plutotocrats would love to see, and it would enable them to maintain the illusion of a two party system. You can always count on Gregory to be a mouthpiece for the corporate elites.
No more Clintons, no more Bushes.
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