Pence slams stimulus but wants more for his state
By David Sunday Aug 02, 2009 11:30am
Rep. Mike Pence disagrees with the stimulus and voted against it but wants more of it for his state. "The Democrats in Congress and the administration said we were going to have to borrow nearly a trillion dollars from future generations and spend it on this -- this long laundry list of liberal spending priorities we called stimulus and that unless we did that, unemployment would reach 8% nationally. It's 9.5% nationally today," Pence told Fox News' Chris Wallace.
But Pence charges that Indiana isn't getting enough money from the very program that he doesn't support. "You check the Indiana Star, you'll see stories about the stimulus. One is that four out of ten major projects in the stimulus for Indiana had been allotted to companies outside the state of Indiana," complained Pence.
Transcript below the fold.
WALLACE: Let's start with the economy and some recent signs of progress. Let's put them up on the screen.
The economy was down only 1 percent last quarter, after a 6.4 percent drop the prior three months. New home sales soared 11 percent in June. And the stock market had its best month in seven years.
Congressman, isn't the recession leveling off? And doesn't President Obama deserve some credit?
PENCE: Well, let me say I hope the recession is leveling off. Slowing the rate of descent is encouraging, I'm sure, to millions of Americans. But I really believe that it's in spite of the prescriptions of Washington, D.C., Chris.
I mean, this so-called stimulus bill that -- you know, that was passed last February -- we've lost 2 million jobs since the stimulus bill was passed.
And I think what we're seeing in the economy now is the inherent resilience of the American economy and the American people.
And while those -- while those numbers are encouraging, what we ought to be doing is pursuing the kind of broad-based prescription for recovery and stimulating this economy that has always worked, which is fiscal discipline in Washington, D.C. and tax relief for working families, small businesses and family farms.
WALLACE: All right. Let's look at the stimulus bill which you voted against. The Democratic National Committee, as I'm sure you know, is running a radio ad in Indiana in which they note that the stimulus package is funding public works projects across the state and in your home district. Let's listen.
(BEGIN AUDIO CLIP) NARRATOR: These projects are creating and saving jobs and boosting our economy. So when you see that sign that says this project funded by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, you can say, "No, thanks," to Mike Pence .
(END AUDIO CLIP)
WALLACE: Congressman, "No, thanks," to Mike Pence ?"
PENCE: Well, let me say Indiana's lost 20,000 jobs since the so- called stimulus bill was passed.
WALLACE: But nobody -- excuse me. Nobody said that the stimulus bill was going to stop the recession.
PENCE: Well, now, hold on a second. The Democrats in Congress and the administration said that we were going to have to borrow nearly a trillion dollars from future generations and spend it on this -- this long laundry list of liberal spending priorities that we called stimulus and that unless we did that, unemployment would reach 8 percent nationally.
It's 9.5 percent nationally today. In my beloved Indiana, it's 10.7 percent and still rising, Chris. I mean, the reality is that, you know, borrowing a trillion dollars from future generations of Americans and spreading it around the economy is going to have some catalytic effect in the economy in the short term, but again, it's no substitute for fiscal discipline in Washington, D.C. and tax relief across the board for working families and small businesses.
WALLACE: But I want to ask you about another report, and we're going to put it up on the screen. More than 2,400 people are now at work on federal-stimulus-funded roadway projects in Indiana.
"What's clear is that the stimulus projects have boosted an industry otherwise floundering in Indiana." And that is not from the DNC. That's from the Evansville, Indiana Courier & Press.
PENCE: Right. That's right. I saw that report as well. To be honest with you, though, I've talked to officials with the Indiana Department of Transportation, and no one's really sure where that number came from, Chris.
But, look. Republicans were always prepared earlier this year to support funding for roads and bridges and infrastructure. It's unfortunate that that was such an infinitesimally small portion of the stimulus bill that was passed by the Congress earlier this year.
If you check the Indianapolis Star this morning you'll see a couple of stories about the stimulus. One is that four out of 10 major projects in the stimulus for Indiana had been allotted to companies outside the state of Indiana.
And this weatherization funding -- Governor Daniels has expressed some frustration in newspapers this morning that Indiana's gotten no funding from -- they've been...
WALLACE: Yeah, but I don't understand.
PENCE: ... conditionally approved for that. All of this...
WALLACE: First you're saying the stimulus is bad. Now you're saying you're just not getting your fair share of it.
PENCE: Well, what I'm saying is that this piecemeal approach -- government handouts through a government bureaucracy -- is no substitute for broad-based tax relief and fiscal discipline in Washington, D.C.
Chris, the quickest way to get money into this economy is not to take it in the first place. And Republicans fought for broad-based tax relief.
We fought for fiscal discipline all year long, opposing the stimulus, opposing runaway spending in the budget, opposing the national energy tax and cap and trade and this government takeover of health care with its higher taxes, and we're going to continue to make that fight.






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"four out of ten major projects in the stimulus for Indiana had been allotted to companies outside the state of Indiana"
they probably heard about the Indiana outdoor markets being just like Iraq and thought it saver that way Mike.
....but the Govenor of the state just sold the lease of tollroads in a portion of Indiana to a foreign company for the next two decades. If we can get Pence and the Govenor together they might be able to create "peaceful markets" all along the aforementioned tollroad corridor. Perhaps the markets can be made up of illegal immigrants and the jobless of Indiana. Not sure what they could sell, but I'm sure those two will come up with something viable.
...Pence is a douchebag--but he pales in comparison to Daniels, who might be the worst governor in the country. No wonder the Rethugs are floating his name for president. He'd sell his mother to the special interests if he thought he'd make a buck.
By 2050 there will be 200 Million MORE Americans in the United States alone. If they move to Indiana that will shore up the tax base.
If they didn't have something to bitch and moan about they wouldn't have anything to say. It doesn't matter how ridiculous it sounds or how meaningless it is, they are going to complain until this president's last day in office, then if things are a lot better then than they are now, they'll never give him any credit. All the ills of the universe are the fault of the democrats, or at least they would like you to think so.
he'll be telling his constituents about all of the stimulus money he has gotten for jobs in his state, but that doesn't make him a hypocrite does it?
"the quickest way to get money into this economy is not to take it in the first place..."
Oh yes, let's let the RICH keep all the money regular people labor to create. What a Shthead. Hope he gets trounced next election.
BTW: Those little commercials seem to be having a BIG effect- on the politicians at least! Good. Nice to know my money is well-spent. since Obama voted for the despicable FISA I have mostly given money to ACLU, but I have donated to run those loverley ads!
"Yeah, and such small portions!"
the old Borscht Belt/Poconos joke, I use it often!
"fiscal discipline in Washington, D.C." means no spending on social programs and open checkbooks for military spending and corporate subsidies.
"Tax relief for working families" means tax breaks for the very wealthy and big corporations which then "trickles down" to families through job creation, supposedly.
At least that's what I hear when these words are spoken.
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First he doesnt want the money then complains not enough goes to Indiana Contractors its competitive bid I hope. & whoever awards the contracts for the state of Indiana, tell the dumbass give Indiana Contractors preference. Use your position to look out for your constuients oh wait isnt that what your supposed to do?
First he doesnt want the money then complains not enough goes to Indiana Contractors its competitive bid I hope. & whoever awards the contracts for the state of Indiana, tell the dumbass give Indiana Contractors preference. Use your position to look out for your constuients oh wait isnt that what your supposed to do?
We always have had the future generations paying for the costs of government. WWII wasn't pay as you go, Hoover dam wasn't pay as you go, the Koreasn war wasn't pay as you go and the Iraq was isn't pay as you go. Social Security is paid by the now working class to support me now, while I paid for previous generations. Federal, state or city debt will always be paid for by the future generations.
In 2006 the top 0.01% averaged 976 times more income then Americas bottom 90%
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He doesn't even know the name of the biggest paper in the state...he and Dan Burton always remind me why I got the hell out of there.
OMG
These guys are great! They could sell anything and spin it so well that just enough people could believe it. 'Thank you for not smoking' is another move that comes to mind when listening to this guy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv4fWtRH35E
It's really impossible to follow his line of logic and reasoning. Jesus, these losers can't admit any success that they obstructed in the past six months.
YES, the economy is fragile and holding on by life support systems. But had we done what they wanted, we'd be seeing "The Grapes of Wrath, Part II".
What a bunch of hypocritical bull shitters.
And they can get away with it thanks to their MSM enablers who can't be bothered to challenge flagrant hypocrisy. The MSM has all the time in the world to make up lying garbage about Obama and dilute, deny, and disparage his messages and programs but gives these GOP putzes a free pass.
This is why the Repuks are evil extremists. The conservative Republican policies destroyed the economy in the first place, unleashing untold misery to the U.S. and the world. President Obama and the Democrats are working their butts off trying to fix this mess and to avert total Global destruction and all these whinny $ssholes like Pence are doing is playing Republican Obstructionism, creating more hardships and problems. I have not heard one feasible solution in a zillion years from the GOP, the Zombie Party of NO.
It must be tough to be a 25 watt bulb in a 100 watt world.
WHAT A FOOL!!! HAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH
Where was the concern about fiscal responsibility during the 8 yrs of Bush? They also think the only way to help the economy is with tax cuts or tax "credits." I REALLY REALLY CANNOT STAND REPUBLICANS. And I'm sick to death of their hypocrisy and their mean-spiritedness. I get on my computer and watch these fuckers and immediately get so angry and/or depressed, I just want to give up. I've felt this way since they went after Clinton. I thought it would end in 2004 when Kerry should have/would have won (except for Ken Blackwell). These people should not be allowed on the airwaves. They shouldn't be allowed in polite company and they sure as hell shouldn't be taken seriously by anyone. They have all the makings of a fringe party. But b/c of the MSM, they are watched, listened to and encourage their crazy followers. God help us.
The Republicans nearly doubled the national debt during the Bush regime. In the process, they seemed to tap out our credit limit with the Chinese, creating problems for this rainy day where we truly need to borrow.
It's looking like the actions taken so far has prevented the financial meltdown from resulting in a depression - instead, so far, it's a severe recession. Arlin Specter did flee the GOP on the stimulus issue. The GOP - wrong again. Wrong for America.
of a Bloom County Comic strip. Milo told Opus that to become a farmer he must be able to say these these two sentences without cracking up:
Keep those government goombahs out of my hair!
Hurry up with my Federal bail-out check!
Opus couldn't do it...
Once again, life imitating art. Pathetic life imitating far-seeing comic art.
I'm from Indiana and have had the displeasure of seeing/ hearing this flaming a-hole spew his particular brand of 'conservative' BS for years...
He's another phony 'Christian' and corporate whore who dances to the tune the masters tell him to...buncha godammed hypocrites, I expect his sex scandal to appear in 5,4,3...
What is Pence talking about? One third of the stimulus bill was tax cuts to the middle class. And why isn't Wallace reminding him about that. Next time Dems: Name you bills better (Example: Obama Tax cut bill).
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