September 27, 2009 11:00 AM
O'Keefe not sure if he broke wiretap laws
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Fox News' Chris Wallace hailed conservative filmmaker James O'Keefe as the "Power Player of the Week" Sunday. When asked about allegations that he broke Maryland wiretap laws by recording ACORN employees with out their knowledge, O'Keefe confessed that he didn't know.
I made it thru another sunday morning without seeing or listening to one talking asshat! Not a one!
remember republicanism is a mental illness! Commit one if you can, LOL !
Unless he taped a telephone conversation, he's not guilty of violating wiretap law. He is, however, probably guilty of violating other laws regarding covert recording.
I thought wiretap laws were also used to govern the 1 or 2 party agreements when it came to any sort of audio recording, telephone or otherwise.
The term is eavesdropping.
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Who is choosing these words. 'CONFESSED'
Of course he is not going to admit such a thing.
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.............does he give a shit. Typical PUKIE exceptionalism.
That's why birds shouldn't be allowed in houses outside of cages.
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He admits that he doesnt know in the tape. But then he gets into some odd moral relativism.
If you drive drunk and run over a wanted killer, you're still getting arrested for DUI and vehicular homicide.
I never watch these clips, they are entirely predictable scripts of the Corporate Mouthpiece Media.
My concern was with the choice of words of the post.
You say:
I cannot argue this without listening to it, which I won't do. On the face of, to my thinking, there is a better word than 'admit'.
To admit would be to confess, the previous word used. He is being sued, I understand, he must have counsel. He may be prosecuted according to Jonathan Turley (my previous comment here). If the counsel is worth two grains of salt then this person is coached on what he can and cannot say.
HE SAYS he doesn't know. That is the phrase I would use. He knows what he did, he knows what his counselor tells him.
If his counselor is even a little better than than two grains of salt, the counsel would be DON"T SAY ANYTHING.
I have no sympathy for him, let him go out and hang himself. Legally speaking that is.
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Wallace: Did you break the law?
O'Keefe: I don't know what the law is.
Then O'Keefe goes into equating illegal taping with child prostitution. He never says anything about his own culpability.
Why is Wallace saying that O'Keefe is a "progressive radical"? Anyone who holds 'bake-sales' allowing whites to buy goods cheaper than other races is NOT a progressive.
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising liberty and justice for all
Thank you, I can't listen to these people.
This is all subterfuge to divert attention from the massive Corporate crime wave we are suffering from.
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for poor guys who don't know wealthy FOX lawyers.
Everybody knows - laws do not apply to rightwingers. They are above the law. Nothing wil happen. Move on.
What a generous description. Let's call him an 'actor' and a 'hero' too.
me-oww!
Michael Moore only O'Keefe goes after poverty stricken Americans.
Is it just me or would the temptation to slap the shit out of that smarmy little fucker be overwhelming?
Two of them together like that I wouldn't be able to hold back
i hope this agent provocateur gets what is coming to him and he reaps what he sows.
Actually we don't know if the ACORN workers were trying to help someone scam the government,
That certainly appears to be the few's actus reus, but it requires knowing their mens rea as well as concurrence.
And that's for a court to decide, if the the prosecutor thinks they have a case.
But the fact that it was not part of any official investigation, and would require using evidence most likely illegally gathered to initiate the case, means that any such trial would be unlikely, unless there's more evidence forthcoming that was Constitutionally gathered.
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Sounds like the Oliver North defense.
Actually that was part of the prosecution against linda tripp.
I'm surprised luciane goldberg wasn't prosecuted for encouraging and advising her to break the wiretapping law.
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It also doesn't change the fact that you selective truth seeking mother fucker's slam ACORN relentlessly while conveniently ignoring the horrible crimes against humanity by Dubya, Cheney, Rove, Rumsfield, Rice....
Calm down L&L. It's okay if you destroy a couple countries, but what is really important is destroying an organization that seeks to help the not so fortunate among us.
should all be in jail. So how does that justify ACORN's bad acts? That's an old Republican tactic...deflect attention from themselves by blaming someone else.
http://news.aol.com/article/derrion-alberts-b...
In the meantime, little ACORNs are having fun in Chicago.
ACORN is the acronym for The Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.
Michael B. Farrell, Christian Science Monitor here
ACORN is an easy target for the Corporate Media who are the Corporate mouthpiece.
$53 million in 15 years is less than $4 million a year. This amount is a speck of dust compared to the billions stolen by the crooked war profiteers.
Or the hundreds of billions wasted in the unjustified wars themselves .
Or the trillions that those wars will ultimately cost overall.
Or the trillions that the Banksters have absconded with, the crooks sans pareil.
The Corporate Media talking about ACORN is a RUSE.
For them, a useful ruse. Divert attention from their own massive crimes AND
damage a Community Organization that might empower some people to vote who otherwise would not.
For the Oligarchs it is a WIN WIN.
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as a "Filmmaker" is as amusing it would be to as see Rush Limabugh labeled as "Relationship Counselor."
"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
Famous "Reality Based" Commentator
He'll then learn what pimping is really all about.
Here in Illinois, it is strictly illegal to tape conservations without the other party's knowledge, unless you have legitimate just cause. Ignorance of the law is no fucking excuse.
No, that would be whorin'.
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:)
"Commodities Broker" or "Commodity" depending on which of you guys they agree with.
"The deal has to be negotiated in the real world, not on some idealized Aristotelian plane. We understand that. A 100-percent deal may be impossible."
Famous "Reality Based" Commentator
Maybe o'keefe needs to learn this by heart:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co0K_qSleXs
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In Michigan it is legal to record conversations that one is party to. In other words, one party consent.
As long as one person knows no matter where they occur, except over the telephone.
Telephone conversations require two party consent.
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http://www.callcorder.com/phone-recording-law...
That's what you hire lawyers for you dillweed.
Hope they take you for a bundle.
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My brother, the attorney, prefers to call his type "brain trust" instead of "dillweed".
'asshole.' Old skool.
My dad, the chief parole/probation officer would have called his type 'a client'
me-oww!
My bro is a family law/defense attorney. Had this punk committed a crime in Texas, I'm sure he would take the case, happily taking said punks money for his kids college education.
I was a Beavis and Butthead fan.
I coulda called him fart-knocker.
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"If you want to equate the concealment of the prostitution of children with videotaping someone without their consent, that's your moral prerogative, that's your moral choice."
What concealment of child prostitution - this dipshit pretending to be a pimp?!
I'm not sure who is more despicable - O'Keefe or Wallace.
That's hypothetical children.
He's attempting to use the defense of a group whose name escapes me, but they're not police officers, and go online pretending to be underaged to entrap predators.
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Here we are:
http://www.operationawareness.com/custom3_1.html
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Hypothetical children are more at risk than thetical children because they tend to be more attractive.
Kids do tend to smell bad.
I suppose that's why people often refer to spoiled kids.
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was part of the alleged scam that he had under-aged, possibly undocumented u.s. residents working for him ? and maybe, was that the ref to the more noble (alleged) actual crime in service of defeating a less noble fictional crime?
'some say' flox staged the entire tape job scam ... but i dunno. [rovian dirty trix live on?]
"If you want to equate the concealment of the prostitution of children with videotaping someone without their consent, that's your moral prerogative, that's your moral choice."
Actually, he himself brought up the subject of child prostitution in that set-up with ACORN, and should be just as liable for prosecution.
It also does nothing to change the fact that his apparent purpose wasn't to prevent child prostitution, but to close down a group helpful in signing up new voters, and suppressing that vote.
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was a Leadership Institute grad that prides itself on suppressing voters, it's no wonder why he has a hard-on for ACORN. Rumor has it that is where he got his travel money from.
http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/...
What's really weird about this kid is his choice of subjects. Calling Planned Parenthood to discuss the abortion of black babies? Then posing (poorly) as a pimp to suggest bringing in underage girls to work in the sex trade? I mean that kid has one sick mind. Probably used to torture animals when he was a kid.
Does exist. Maryland law does require that both parties be in consent when recording a conversation. Enjoy the lawsuit Mr. O'Keefe!
What does he mean, he doesn't know?
Didn't he cover that in Jr. High film making last week?
Corruption favors the wealthy.
O'Creep in "Deliverance"? Wasn't he the kid on the porch playing the banjo? bwahahaha!
"By words the mind is winged." - Aristophanes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tqxzWdKKu8
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Yep, I think that's him. Creepiest movie ever.
Reminds me a lot of the current influx of teabaggers.
The need to do an episode of "Where are they now..." on that kid.
all seem to resemble a species of douche nozzles.
"By words the mind is winged." - Aristophanes
prior to these two entering acorn offices, there were no allegations that acorn or its employees were assisting anyone in scamming the gov
they created a story
all they proved is that acorn needs to fix their hiring practices...cuz those employees were all dumb as shit
is no excuse. Charge that fucker now!!!
Most pimps do accept major credit cards now.
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Through PayPal, no doubt.
Day one of Criminal law class -- ignorance of the law is no defense.
Report: O'Keefe friend said she "grew disillusioned" with his tactics after being asked to doctor transcript of a past film. In a September 18 article, http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/19/us/19sting....
The New York Times reported that Liz Farkas, a college friend of O'Keefe's while at Rutgers University, "said she grew disillusioned" after O'Keefe "asked her to help edit the script" of a video involving a nurse at UCLA. The Times reported: " 'It was snippets to make the ... nurse look bad,' Ms. Farkas said. 'I said: "It has no context. You're just cherry-picking the nurse's answers." He said, "Okay" -- and then he just ran it.' "
just the kind of guy they hire over at Faux Noise.
Well duh. Why do yoiu think that Mike Wallace's son had this asshole as Power Player of the Week? Kissing up to this jerk's puckered sphincter. This was a job interview on the part of Sphincter Face.
a "filmmaker" is an insult to filmmakers. How about "Shithead with a camera"?
FIFY
"Shithead" implies stupidity without maliciousness. I think "asshole" would be a better fit.
Isn't that just arguing context vs content?
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Is everyone with a cellphone capable of taking pictures a filmmaker?
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if this dipshit were to end up in jail.
O'Keefe + Thiel + Beck = RICO time
If he gets Linda Tripped? Meaning he does the repugs' dirty work and they abandon him when he goes down for illegally recording conversations.
I am not sure of the law, but when he approached them as a pimp and feels acorn was doing something illegal, shouldn't he be arrested for prostitution? Besides the illegal tapping? He can't take the high road when he approached them with his proposition.
I cracked up at the sight of this guy dressed as a pimp. His "whore" who looked like she was auditioning for a position at Fox news as a news anchor. Sorry for those folks at ACORN for being so gullible.
I seem to recall one statement from someone with ACORN to the effect that at least one of the ACORN employees 'caught' on tape knew that there was something not right about the whole thing, and that the employee was just going along with them trying to find out what was going on, not seriously giving advice on illegal activity.
...wouldn't a true conservative say that ignorance of the law is no excuse? After all, aren't they the ones who are always pontificating about the importance of "accepting personal responsibility" (even though most of them make every effort to pass the buck just like everyone else when their own backsides are on the line)?
I still have to wonder why some of the staff members at ACORN caught on camera apparently weren't swift enough to suspect that something funny was going on, given the fact that the female accomplice's costume in some of the footage was almost too obvious to be believable -- it was as if she was acting out a stereotype (or perhaps a caricature) of a prostitute when one would think that a prostitute trying to get advice on how to keep her true business a secret and make it seem legitimate would be more inclined to dress down for a meeting such as this.
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
I am a liberal and I can tolerate somebody with an alternate point of view like this guy. Dressing like a hooker and pimp is funny. Those employees who got scammed where stupid.
If they were self funded before they sure won't be in the future.
TOOL. WHITE WEALTHY PAMPERED TOOL
Pimp OKeefe and Prostitute Giles BROKE THE LAW!
It is time they face Justice!
Go to Jail, Directly to Jail, do not Pass Go!
You got your 15 minutes of Fame!
Time to PAY THE PIPER!
I guess if you air it on TV fast enough it's okay to break the law. Too bad Jim McDermott didn't do that.. Oh, wait. He did. And he still got sued.
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