Lindsey Graham, Liz Cheney want WikiLeaks leakers prosecuted
WikiLeaks hasn't even released the latest round of US government documents and already politicians and pundits are calling for prosecutions.
The latest release from the WikiLeaks website is expected to include as many as 250,000 secret diplomatic cables.
The Obama administration warned Wednesday that the documents could damage US relations with friends and allies.
"Leaking the material is deplorable," Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) told Fox News' Chris Wallace Sunday. "I agree with the Pentagon's assessment that the people at WikiLeaks could have blood on their hands."
"I don't know what the cables may say but it's just a -- we're at war. I mean the world is getting dangerous by the day and the people who do this are really low on the food chain as far as I'm concerned. If you can prosecute them, let's try."
Sen. Clair McCaskill (D-MO) agreed. "Lindsey's right," she said. "The people who are leaking these documents need to a gut check about their patriotism and I think they're enjoying the attention they're getting but, frankly, it's coming at a very high price in terms of protecting our men and women in uniform."
"I hope that we can figure out where this is coming from and go after them with the force of law," McCaskill said.
Also appearing on Fox News Sunday, former State Department official Liz Cheney called for the government to go after the leakers.
"I think, once again, the government of Iceland ought to shut down that [WikiLeaks] website," Cheney said. "I think they ought to stop allowing the stuff to come out of the website in Iceland. I think that the administration ought to be focused very much on prosecuting those responsible."
The State Department sent a letter Saturday to WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange.
Publication of documents of this nature at a minimum would:
* Place at risk the lives of countless innocent individuals -- from journalists to human rights activists and bloggers to soldiers to individuals providing information to further peace and security;
* Place at risk on-going military operations, including operations to stop terrorists, traffickers in human beings and illicit arms, violent criminal enterprises and other actors that threaten global security; and,
* Place at risk on-going cooperation between countries - partners, allies and common stakeholders -- to confront common challenges from terrorism to pandemic diseases to nuclear proliferation that threaten global stability.
"Despite your stated desire to protect those lives, you have done the opposite and endangered the lives of countless individuals. You have undermined your stated objective by disseminating this material widely, without redaction, and without regard to the security and sanctity of the lives your actions endanger," State Department legal advisor Harold Hongju Koh wrote.
"If you are genuinely interested in seeking to stop the damage from your actions, you should: 1) ensure WikiLeaks ceases publishing any and all such materials; 2) ensure WikiLeaks returns any and all classified U.S. Government material in its possession; and 3) remove and destroy all records of this material from WikiLeaks' databases."
Assange told reporters Sunday that Washington had "contacted the governments of almost every nation on earth to brief them about what some of these embarrassing revelations will do."
"They’re in a rather unusual difficult position where it is not sure precisely what is going to be revealed," he said.
they would break into Assange's psychiatrist's office.
Assuredly this round of leaks will finally change the whole world.
"That's fu*#ing retarded."
Big City Mayor
Now that would be ironic.
Or another 'attack' on our soil?
Government + the Federal Reserve = organized crime
America: Always Soiling Ourselves.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
But I wonder if any of the conspiracy buffs still think they could have kept the Kennedy assassination or the World Trade center plot secret? The US government can clearly not keep anything secret.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
if you can get any debate quelled by calling it a conspiracy theory or by limiting public access to the information.
Personally, I have always believed that if Oswald acted completely alone, Ruby wouldn't have needed to silence him so quickly.
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising liberty and justice for all
from a recent article in the Atlantic:
Loved Liz crying that WikiLeaks put people in danger, but the Plame-Gate had no adverse effects on our covert CIA folks overseas. Maybe we should let them raise their "treasonous" stink then slam them with the hypocrisy, and a subpoena for Daddy.
for putting the lives of pretty much everyone one on the planet in grave danger, war crimes, including encouraging torture and war profiteering. Even though your daddy's crimes are actually crimes against humanity and Assange is letting some home truths see the light of day, harming only the scum on top of the pond, neither of us will get our wish sweetcheeks, because the US is a rogue nation, w/o respect for the law when it applies to CheneyBushCo.
me-oww!
palin claims we're a rouge nation...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
nasty smear job poor Michael Moore had to endure at the hands of the Health Insurance industry, I think everything will be OK.
"That's fu*#ing retarded."
Big City Mayor
...rape charges aren't enough of a smear job?
patriotism of these people? WTF are you on about? They are NOT Americans. As far as going after them with the "full force of the law?" Only after we've used the full force of the law to prosecute the BushCo war criminals. No selective enforcement of the law. EVER!
Cheney Lite: When your father gets prosecuted, then you can talk. Until them, be very careful what you wish for, you talentless hack. Are you advocating that we invade Iceland now?
Lindsey Graham: It will be the people who did the dirty deeds that are revealed that will have blood on their hands. Just how stupid do you think we are, anyway, you cynical bitch.
Does the State Department really believe that they can shame Wikileaks into stopping the release? Nothing like some sunlight to clean things up. Fuck all of you. If you didn't do anything wrong, you have nothing to fear now, do you?
Right on, savannah!
plus, State Department legal advisor Harold Hongju Koh, FUCK YOU TOO! lying sack mouthpiece for the war machine.
me-oww!
We've already bombed them with toxic financial instruments and crashed their economy. Doubt if they wish to cooperate with any request we make of them. I'm waiting for Sarah Palin to weigh in.
Shouldn't we start with her father?
He helped leak the name of a covert agent.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Too bad multiple international newspapers already have the info. "Oh, what a tangled web we weave..."
New York Times, Guardian UK, and Der Spiegal.
"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman
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or government for launching an illegal DOS against Wikileaks
me-oww!
If the stuff in those leaks is true then it all has to come out. Get real Cheney.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Actually, on a quick pass of what's revealed, it looks like a lot of it could have remained secret. There's a few things that needed to be revealed though, so we can do a little "reform".
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Liz Cheney demanding anyone be arrested or jailed as long as her face-shooting, lie-us-into-war motherfrakker of a father roams free to do more evil.
Most of the leaks I've seen involve a very foolish Bush/Cheney administration kowtowing to the wishes of the Saudis who also fund Al Quaeda. They show Sec. Gates saying attacking Iran would only delay their nuclear developments for two or three years, but again, it is the Saudis who urged Bush in 2008 to attack Iran.
I guess the Republicans are now, along with Fox News, revealed as the Saudi party in America.
Same religious fundamentalism, same authoritarianism, same focus on the wealthy at the expense of the have nots.... Hmmmm
MyMy
I would like to see Lindsey Graham and Liz Cheney prosecuted for treason or run up out of this country.
We want your dad prosecuted so STFU!
"Clashes with Europe over human rights: American officials sharply warned Germany in 2007 not to enforce arrest warrants for Central Intelligence Agency officers involved in a bungled operation in which an innocent German citizen with the same name as a suspected militant was mistakenly kidnapped and held for months in Afghanistan. A senior American diplomat told a German official "that our intention was not to threaten Germany, but rather to urge that the German government weigh carefully at every step of the way the implications for relations with the U.S."
After all, they are a corporation and Citizens gave them extended free speech rights, didn't it. Will SCOTUS be "hoist on its own petard?" Does the "Gray Lady" have any balls left? Is the government going to play the "national security" card? Again? Tune in tomorrow for the latest installment of : "BushCo: The Chickenhawks Pay Up." No, "BushCo, The Chickenhawks Get Busted." The second in the series will involve paying up.
doesn't that mean that they are the wrong things to be doing?
so why be doing them?
Are we the baddies?
That's a question Cheney should be asking herself.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Something about glass houses and rock throwing? Maybe LizziButt should be more careful about using that 'prosecution' word since her dad is a war-criminal and all.
Government + the Federal Reserve = organized crime
I wanted Bush and Cheney prosecuted, but the democratic congress took that off the able. Ms. Cheney should thank her lucky stars and shut up about prosecutions for leakers. Does she really believe she has the moral high-ground to make such a charge, whether it's warranted or not?
anywhere, EVER care what her opinion was about anything? I don't think so. STFU you ridiculous and self-important twa... Never mind. You should never believe all the things that your parents say about you. Especially YOUR parents, those dishonest thieves. Go get some reality lessons. Why don't you take your Dad on a nice vacation to Spain?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eZBevXohCI
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
As far as I'm concerned, this whole thing looks like "American Government v. American People."
I'm scared to death that conservatives will say "YEAH!! PULL THE WOOL OVER OUR EYES. WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN IGNORANT ABOUT WHAT OUR GOVERNMENT'S DOING."
This is a huge issue to me. This is like prosecuting the parties that wrote stories about the Watergate scandal.
"Well, you can't print that, in the eyes of the world and the people, it might make our government look immoral."
YEAH. BECAUSE YOUR GOVERNMENT WAS ACTING IMMORAL. God DAMMIT this pisses me off. I'm sorry you're so ASHAMED of what the military does, Cheney. You'd think that in any normal situation, you'd speak up against the military and make sure they don't do these things that make them look bad. But I know that your clothes are paid for with that very blood.
And God bless Wikileaks for doing the job the media fails to do.
Didn't watch the vid and stopped reading at his:
All I need to know. The endless wars in Asia are the excuse for everything, even grabbing your crotch at the airport. [Did he clutch his pearls with that utterance (the tired old queen)? Can't watch these assholes.]
far left loon >.<
You've heard the phrase "pounding sand?" Well, this is what it looks like. If the government had even a legal twig to stand on, they would have been prosecuting Assange a long time ago. I love it.
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Fascists prefer to prosecute the truth so as to conceal it's stark reality.
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Starve the WAR Beast...
... Save the World.
this from the pentagon?
but only after Cheney faces trial for war crimes.
Hey US government, SCREW YOU! If you weren't committing crimes against humanity and double-dealing with "friends and allies" there would be no need for pathetic 2-step and back pedaling! Oh, and by the way, who cares what the Cheney skank thinks? Shouldn't her ol' man and his puppet be behind bars by now? And as for you dear Mr. POTUS, you've shown yourself to be just as culpable as your predecessors in abusing power and the commision of international crimes!
Who, EXACTLY is she speaking for again ...?
She represents the Great District/State/ ... of ...what EXACTLY ...?
The idea that this cretin is constantly on the TV every Sunday is absurd ... she should be sitting in a crappy prison visiting room talking on a filthy gum crusted handset to her wretched Old man, and figuring out how she is going to sneak the Cialis and Nitro pills she has stashed in her
&^%$#when she hugs him goom-bye.THe mere idea that this War criminal's (and FU Jon Stewart ... oh, sorry fanboys) daughter, a WAR criminal who willfully destroyed thousands of incriminating emails ... pontificating on the release of damaging documents, the irony drips ...
Guardian UK WIKILEAKS LiveBlog
I'm Boycotting NewsCorp! Heres what not to buy: http://www.cjr.org/resources/index.php?c=news...
Liz Cheney is our little Delores Umbridge. All that's missing is the pill box hat.
I was thinking ...
I'm Boycotting NewsCorp! Heres what not to buy: http://www.cjr.org/resources/index.php?c=news...
Your's has a better figure.
lizard looks like she's trying-out as a linebacker.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
She seriously looks like a little piggy, or Miss Piggy (sorry Miss Piggy). That has nothing to do with
what daddy tells her to sayher political opinions, I know, but...far left loon >.<
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/clinton-or...
"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman
Who gives a damn what this insignificant wingnut female thinks, wants, or does? She is nothing and should be treated as such.
You are absolutely right.
FOX does propaganda, not news.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
If it weren't for the fact that her old man was connected in Washington long before he ever became Vice President, Liz would probably have been just another face in the crowd at the State Department. Besides, she's every bit as much of a neoconservative as he is -- she even pals around with William Kristol, her dad's old buddy from PNAC, for pity's sake -- so what else would you expect from her?
In any case, while I'm somewhat ambivalent about what Assange is doing, I'm a firm believe in the idea that sunlight is one of the best antiseptics there is. It's much harder to fix a problem if you don't even know that there is a problem or refuse to acknowledge it -- and when the government insists on keeping secrets, it raises the question of just who it is they're really trying to protect! Are they really trying to protect the people -- or are they trying to protect themselves? For nearly ten years now, our government has been feeding us the message that the only people who have reason to be afraid of government intrusion into our privacy are the ones who have something to hide -- but in a country which is (at least ostensibly) still a democracy, that principle should go both ways!!!! Increased governmental secrecy raises the potential for increased governmental corruption
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
http://www.legitgov.org/US-government-Nosey-P...
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
It'll be like high school, when a bunch of mates are chatting in the hall between classes. The US diplomats will approach the clique they ruled by bullying and fear and shitty gossip, and everyone will go from chatting about family, kids, vacation plans and the like and switch the conversation to the day's weather.
"Hot enough for you, Uncle Sam?"
me-oww!
I don't like the way the US is messing with the UN. What is that all about?
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
US embassy cables: browse the database
I'm Boycotting NewsCorp! Heres what not to buy: http://www.cjr.org/resources/index.php?c=news...
Don't just write it here, tell Liz what you think as well :
info@KeepAmericaSafe.com
http://www.keepamericasafe.com/?page_id=603
How ironic, "Keep America Safe", coming from her. That's rich.
Liz cheney is a joke
From a post on another c&l topic:
According to iCasualties, the total number of allied service members killed in Iraq is 4,747; in Afghanistan, 2,232 of which,
Gee, do the cowardly scum punditocracy, who never served anywhere or put there asses on the line for the UAandA, think that enough innocent foreign national non-whites and american youth have paid the price yet for the pundit's right to be hypocrites. How many wars did your war criminal daddy fight in, Ms Cheney? How many have to die before your elite blood thirst is sated? Anymore, just the sight of you makes me sick.
-A Veteran (USN) four years more than anyone in your family
"I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative.”
- John Stuart Mill
our whole security system is a vast joke. if secret diplomatic discourse can't be carried out between governments, foreign diplomacy, business between governments, treaty negotiations, and the like simply cannot be conducted.
on another level, why can't we protect our sensitive classified documents integrity? this is pathetic.
Liz cheney is a joke
If you go off on something you haven't read or researched, then you're likely to say and do stupid things. How stupid? Remember how the Senate voted to grant Bush approval to use force without having bothered even to glance at the intelligence report Bob Graham (D-FL) had made available and pleaded with them to read? If senators had acted responsibly then, most of what's been released by Wikileaks would never even have been written.
Before pontificating, one should, of course, examine the documents themselves, a lot of which have already been published and the rest of which will be. Realistically, most knowledgeable readers of Huff-Po will read only samples. But Senators have staff with appropriate expertise to help them out.
In the meantime, a good starting point for consideration for senators and the rest of us would be to check on such matters as the nature of the documents, including their security rating; the process by which they were vetted; the opportunity given to the central administration (something like six weeks) to review the documents and request redaction. That checking can be done very quickly, and it should temper and qualify one's initial response. From what I've seen thus far, I'd start with the statement by the editors of the Guardian.
Which is more cowardly
Greyhound or Trailways?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
These are classified information that was provided to Wiki illegally. So your saying it's okay to break the law? I'll have to agree with them. Who ever leaked the info, should be prosecuted. If it's an American he should be tried for treason. Simple fact is, regardless if you agree, like, disagree with the information leaked, it was illegal. Kind of like if some one killed some one you don't like, you still prosecute him.
is intended to be a factual statement
We'll put that prosecution right in line behind the others. First up, Bush and Cheney on war crimes. After that... They should be prosecuted in the order the crimes were committed-- right!!
If you haven't noticed, laws don't mean anything in the USA, unless, of course, you steal a loaf of bread.
far left loon >.<
of Valerie Plame? I've got the cuffs if you have the traitor's location.
woodguy
Should Daniel Ellsberg not have leaked the Pentagon Papers? He has said that he expected to be sent to prison for doing it, and was indeed willing to do it.
Should truth be considered subject to policy, or should policy be considered subject to truth?
I don't think anyone saying that there's nothing wrong with breaking the law, but...what if the law is perceived to be unjust, or is being used to conceal unethical behavior? What if governmental officials are using the law to protect themselves rather than the public? Aren't people of conscience -- like Ellsberg -- sometimes compelled to break the law in the name of a higher cause? That is, after all, the basic principle of civil disobedience -- deliberately refusing to comply with a law as a form of protest against that law, with the understanding that the person will very likely be subjected to a penalty for doing so.
I'll grant this much...if the people who choose to leak these documents feel its in the national interest for the American people to know what's being done in their name, they should be willing to do what Ellsberg did and surrender to the authorities of their own volition.
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
seven months for "allegedly" leaking the info, according to the US Military.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/28/h...
As someone else mentioned, what about the people who "outed" Plame. Shouldn't they also be charged with treason?
Your Dad has to be prosecuted first, along with his henchmen and the shrub guy he bossed around. Liz shout your nasty mouth, you are nobodies boss and you haven't elected anything!
Sadly, it is unlikely that the defense will succeed.
Christianity. What a damnable disgrace.
So Baby Dick's expertise in this matter is that she's the daughter of a famous war criminal? I just want to be clear about this. Otherwise she can just STFU.
What right does this spawn of Satan have to any expectation that we give a rats a$$ what she thinks?
She and her near-death sperm provider have the sewer-suite waiting for them and their spawn in Hell...and I'll be looking forward to NOT seeing them on interviews, propaganda sites, etc. in the future.
Does she ever wash her mop of hair? What a witch! Once again...who the f*ck cares what this bitch or her old devil-father have to say about anything. It's strange that we keep asking these traitors questions with the expectation that we are going to hear something besides propaganda and lies. She is a pig.
...the living crap out of the Cheneys and the GOP. They fear what they can't control. What they can't anticipate and spin. It's the transparency this country deserves.
Liz looks like she needs to keep her hands off the Ring Dings, or that just holiday fat?
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
But Darth Cheney and King Re**** aren't guilty? STFU Liz!
NOBODY 2012
Here's some advice from America: shut the f*ck up ya stupid cow.
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