Lindsey Graham accuses Obama of 'seedy Chicago politics'
Sen. Lindsey Graham doesn't have much good to say about the president and his administration's handling of health care reform. Graham accused the Obama administration of giving "bribes" to Democratic Senators in exchange for their votes, calling it "seedy Chicago politics."
"You know, change you can believe in, after this health care bill debacle is now becoming an empty slogan. And it’s really been replaced by seedy Chicago politics, when you think about it, backroom deals that amount to bribes," said Graham.
The senator from South Carolina went on to criticize the Democrats' method of paying for health care reform. "No Congress is going to allow Medicare to be cut $470 billion. We will forgive those cuts to doctors and hospitals. That's how you pay for the bill. It's Enron-accounting. It's a sham," Graham told CNN's John King Sunday.
we need to turn plow shares into swords and empty washington! and wallstreet!
Get rid of Mark Sanford for beginners, then work on the hacks in your own party before you criticize and condemn others.
"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."
Robert F. Kennedy
He usually does not stoop to the conservative meme! Let it go ..
teabagged.
Some stuff you can't make up!
of seedy South Carolina politics.
Republicans are liars and simply cannot be trusted.
Lots and lots of donations from a firm up in Raleigh specializing in Health Care Lobbying. Since it was laundered through the firm, I'm not sure who bought him. Had to make sure he didn't become a southern Snowe I guess once his name came up.
At least he isn't bat-shit crazy like DeMint.
He is a nut, no matter what degree you look at it.
was working for Goober now after he left the fillin' station
Creepy weird uncle Lindsay, really?
Is there anything not-seedy about him?
Blech!
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
(but i agree with a chunk of your criticism)
so, double fuck you for saying something that i, in part, agree with
things are so fucked up, right and left actually have crap in common. I hate it when that happens!
me-oww!
like when ron paul and dennis kucinich are in agreement on some issue or another, despite being on opposite ends of the political spectrum
Dennis is sure to ask Ronnie to be his VP in '12.
/s
It does sort of make you wonder that maybe if the two ends of the spectrum agree, then maybe what they agree on might actually be true.
Brrrrrrrrrr...
And who allowed the Enron style accounting?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
And if . . IF the GOP really thought this bill was so bad and that is would be huge debacle - they'd be tripping over each other to vote for it.
If it was such a boondoggle to the insurance industry they'd have their GOP lapdogs voting for it.
So obvious.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
u write: IF the GOP really thought this bill was so bad and that is would be huge debacle - they'd be tripping over each other to vote for it
why would they vote for it? now they can run against the bill claiming, rightly so, they tried to stop the "huge debacle" that is the bill.
maybe i don't understand what you are trying to say...
I've heard claims that this bill is the end of Obama. That it is so bad it spells the end of his presidency.
If that were true. . .
And AGAIN if the insurance industry stands to do so swell why would they fight it with every dollar, every trick and every GOPher and D they have in their pocket?
I belies their claims is all I'm sayin'
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
that his base has now become discouraged. he tried so hard to extend a hand to the GOP, only to have it spat upon, that he has disillusioned and discouraged many on the left. and, for a lot of people on the left, this healthcare bill is close to being (if not) the last straw (after other issues/policies/decisions that go counter to left/progressive desires)
Jane Hamsher at Firedoglake....10 Reasons to kill the Senate bill:
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/12/21-8
And then I heard Democratic Congressman Raul Grijalva of Arizona, co-chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus talking on the Randi Rhodes show today and he said that if Reid/Pelosi try to merge the two bills in conference and NOT put in the Medicare buy-in or a "robust public option" that he feels the Progressive Caucus in the House will kill the bill.
The Progressive Caucus will be issuing a press release Wednesday regarding how they intend to vote if these provisions are NOT included in the final bill.
Even though Obama/Emanuel have said, "Don't think we're not keepin' score here brother".
So, we may all feel like this thing is a done deal, but I still see a glimmer of hope that the Progressive Democrats may actually be growing a spine.
Someone please correct me if you think I'm reading things in the wrong way.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
How much has medical insurers given this cracker graham in seedy backrooms, with or without KY Jelly?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
in $$$ or inches?
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
Well at least Obama used his seedy to create two children. What did you do with your seedy Lindsay?
Seedy politics? That describes what generates from America's 2, old, worn-out, complacent, indifferent, selfish, greedy political parties.
Thomas Dewey
The Republicans only want to regain power.
The Democrats only want to hang on to power.
The Republicans will lie if that serves their purpose or they tell the truth if that serves their purpose.
The Democrats are no different in that regard.
This is the truth, at least let's hope it is the truth because Medicare will fail with those cuts.
This WealthCare bill is a corrupt piece of Corporate Welfare funded as it stands by enormous cuts in the only social medical program that actually works, Medicare.
Just because a Republican says it doesn't make it untrue. But, when they regain power they will do their best to make Medicare fail on the schedule the Democrats have provided.
statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
Republocrats. Or as Jesse Ventura calls it, a two-party dictatorship.
..you say here is that they will do their best to make Medicaire fail on schedule when the regain power. Considering the modest gain to millions without health care made here with this bill, let's hope they get a better bill out of the House and the gop is swirling around the drain before the next election. I ain't holding my breath; just my nose.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
as much as I hate to admit it, Graham actually does have a point. Just how much is it going to cost US for the placating of that other prick Ben Nelson?!
Exactly as much as the GOP could have saved us by having just one or their members give a reach across the aisle.
Heck, if the GOP had actually done something - anything except just saying "no" - the bill might have been better.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
How could it have been better?
But with him and esp. with Coburn's most recent antics ...
It's the pot calling the kettle black.
There are Republicans that are just as bought, and they all do back room deals. Graham's largest donor this cycle is a bunch of lawyers with a strong Health Care lobbying arm. They maintain a "Healthcare Reform Care Library". The most recent update on the library from Graham's largest donor is this:
http://www.nelsonmullins.com/DocumentDepot/minorityrightswithletter%5B1%5D.pdf.
For those too lazy to read the link. It's a how too manual written by a Republican Senator Gregg on how to use procedure to stop the Healthcare bill. With a helpful cover letter. We know where Graham's largest donor stands.
That's Graham's biggest donor, coming in at #6 is BCBS.
He probably needs them too, the Teabagger's hate him. What's a politician to do for money these days?
..chicago politics,
..$470 million being cut from Medicaire,
..enron accounting,
..shams but I do know there's no public option or medicaire buy-in. I guess lindsay graham don't know how backroom deals work because if the senate had to be bought off for the bill, they didn't bring enough $ to the backroom.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
I think your slip is showing Miss Lindsey
and lying. And of being a total self-centered America hating prick, based on his voting record and speechifying.
me-oww!
Axlerod saying "we care more about Chicago then we do D.C." should be clear enough.
Lindsay Graham - is that his porn name?
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
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Accepting bribes...?
Sisy Graham said what...?
How about his Lobbyist friends HE takes money from...?
.
Starve the WAR Beast...
... Feed Americans.
working hard to go after the corrupt. Bankers, Wall Street, all the obvious suspects.
I almost forgot. LOL.
remember?
Oh and he was for single payer too!
he was against it, apparently.
think? Corruption isn't possible with this administration?
LOL seriously how many times do they have to keep lying to our face before people get it?
describes this administration.
...."describes
thisAll administrations...""Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
in charge though they sure know how to toss people under the bus when they least expect it.
"seedy Chicago politics" = he's black and thus shouldn't be trusted, in white southern speak.
would not be complaining about any of this if his pal, Mr. McGoo, was in the White House.
I personally think the Senate bill stinks. Now we have to wait and see what the House can do with their version and then the conference.
I'm not hopeful that we'll see anything but what Wendell Potter called the "Health Insurance Company Profit Protection and Enhancement Act" - which then, by default, turns into the "Congressional Campaign Fund Enhancement Act."
And, you can rest assured that the Repukes will benefit just as much as the Dems.
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
that your hopes will be dashed.
me-oww!
I guess being a senator you WOULD be an authority on back-room deals and bribes huh?
The whole religious complexion of the modern world is due to the absence from Jerusalem of a Lunatic Asylum. -Havelock Ellis
So it took "seedy Chicago politics" to get the Democrats to ACT like they are the majority.
The Republicans set the stage by demanding straight party-line voting from their members.
For all my suspicions about the final product, if this health care bill finally gets the Democrats to ACT like they are the majority on other issues, maybe it's worth it .. at least that COULD be a good thing.
Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!
do the Dems want people to take we had 8 years of Bush they seem perfectly content with continuing the same bullshit.
Did Bush waste anytime undoing 40 years of real hard won progress? No he spent the first 6 months in office undoing everything with the stroke of a pen!
WTF is the matter with the Dems?
The ever-available senator from SC asked on CNN for the expressed purpose of talking shit about HCR? Obstruct, then disparage. What a weasel he is!
CNN then eagerly granted that request.
"Controversy! Hey, there's a controversy over here!"
something to fall back on at this rate. Like another occupation in the civilian sector.
Save their integrity at least.
But how is he inaccurate?
Obama cut a back room deal with PhRMA (specifically with Bill Tauzin, Bush's Medicare Part D whore) to guarantee PhRMA windfall profits. This was after they paid him millions.
If that isn't a bribe, then bribes don't exist anymore.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
or, at least what most are pissed about is the HyPoCrisy. Miss Lindsay just getting his panties into a bunch because the Democrats dared to use the same tactics the Repukes have mastered over the decades.
It's a Pot/Kettle thing..
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlXtCVaC9ns
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I remember seeing my first Ma&Pa Kettle movie at Steel Pier in Atlantic City...way back when.....
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
Hate to say it, but Graham is right. He's still a hypocritical rightwing douchebag, but this time he's right.
Health care reform is an empty slogan, but "Chicago Politics" isn't? Why are we still getting the Rove slime-points? Rove is a dirt baga nd the GOP is still listening to him, via his gig at Fox.
Sloganeering slime buckets of the GOP,
Oh Lindsey, don't go getting the vapors over this and please stop grasping the pearls.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
than Lindsey??
"...Hello, Mr. Pot ? Lindsey here, again I had to call you (again) to tell you that You're (still) black"
to know all about Enron-style accounting, Enron-style banking, Enron-style wars, ad infinitum
Chicago politics, Northeast elites, Hollywood liberals, San Francisco values...?
We don't need to take that from some inbred South Carolina redneck.
touche'!
Absolutely!
These bible thumping, evangelical, southern ignoramuses, are the suckiest sucks whoever sucked!
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
Well said!
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. ~ Abraham Lincoln
Give it up Sen. Graham. Senator Demint and Steve King have got you beat all to hell in the batshit crazy department. But you just keep on pissing and moaning and maybe we'll find a department for that.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
I sense a lot more bedwetting and crying yet by the corrupt Reslugs.
Now, journalists will start digging into funding for campaigns and such for all politicians.
I know people here have been doing it for years.
But this dumbass just dared the media to dig into campaign funds and all forms of funding. Tom Delay? Jack Abrahmoff? Hello?
I welcome it.
My point is this. By trying to bring attention to the Dems. This ass clown just put the spotlight on himself and all the others.
ST00PID!
And yes, I did use the word journalists . There has to be at least one left. Somewhere.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
To dig? The only thing the media can dig into is who Elliot Spitzer & John Edwards slept with.
I hope.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
You're the one.
Journalists digging for facts. That's funny.
We are really going to miss Bill Moyers.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
She works for Democracy Now.
It's the GOP's relentlessly obnoxious and disingenuous criticism and petty partisanship that is getting old.America needs these guys to reel it in a bit and think about their country rather than their fucked up nit wit infested party for a change.I mean just the hypocrisy alone is gob smacking.Imagine the GOP's reaction "during a time of war"yadda yadda... to let's say, Nancy Pelosi accusing Bush of stooping to "seedy Texas politics".Our boy Lindsey here would have a conniption.
"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "
-Jack Handy
nothing against gays, but if your a sociapathic closeted ****** like this frustrated little bastard it can become dangerours. Lying son-of-a-bitch Lindsay - his whole life is one stinking Southern tight-sphinctered lie. It is disgusting that someone like this is a senior senator. Talk about seedy? Sheesh!
Has no real brains and no real critical thinking skills, so he goes to the nasty little talking points which mean nothing, but rile up 'teh base'. What a toad.
I'm just superstitious enough to hedge my bets.
What happened?
Oh, yeah...
"Go fuck yourself"
Yup, pretty sure that was it.
more empty idiotic rhetoric from a member of the scum right. fuck you, pal.
"You know, change you can believe in, after this health care bill debacle is now becoming an empty slogan."
I'm afraid that Lindsey is telling it exacty as it is.
"And it’s really been replaced by seedy Chicago politics, when you think about it, backroom deals that amount to bribes."
Was Joe Lieberman one of the 60 who made that vote earlier today? Given how vocal he and Ben Nelson have been in opposition to the health care bill as it stands now, no one will ever be able to convince me that Obama did NOT make some kind of deal with those two. Assuming that to be the case, I can only ask, what was the deal Obama made, and how much will it cost the country?
It's called politics . The difference between this and the previous administration being that under Bush and Dick if any one stepped out of line the gestapo would step in and your political career was over .
Lindsay coulda cashed in, too. His vote was potentially worth a lot more than what the Dem senators got. Maybe next time he'll be willing to work out a deal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKR6dNDvHYQ
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Translation: He's black. (whispered loudly, so as to be less racist)
Bush republicans complaining about corruption? This is a joke right? I mean really, come on?
You can't make this shit up.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
I guess Graham is OK with the Tom DeLay style of 'Chicago' politics in passing the Medicare Drug Program. The GOP is so hypocritical it boggles the mind but with leaders like Palin, Beck, Limbaugh etc what can you expect.
His Whole Life is Based On Lies.
We all know that.
Grima Wormtongue
Goodnight, Frau Blücher
You are EXACTLY right! Grima Wormtongue...one of the most despicable "creatures" in the whole Lord of the Rings trilogy.
Graham = Hypocrite in Chief
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
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