August 23, 2009 04:00 PM
Lieberman: Worry about uninsured after the recession is over
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Sen. Joe Lieberman caucuses with the Democrats but doesn't seem anxious to find a solution for uninsured Americans. "And I'm afraid we've got to think about putting a lot of that off until the economy is out of recession. There's no reason we have to do it all now," Lieberman told CNN's John King Sunday.
"I think it's a real mistake to try to jam through the total health insurance reform," Lieberman said. "It's just not good for the system. Frankly, it won't be good for the Obama presidency."
still hating americans. msm had to dredge him up too. Obama will have nice things to say about mcStain and Liarman tomorrow, bank on it
Some stuff you can't make up!
Maybe we should suspend aid to Israel during the recession. I'm sure Joe won't object since we need to tighten our belts.
Would never let that happen...That is about the only thing they would attack others about..
Why do you believe the democrats have to meet privately with the Jewish organization like AIPAC before elections or to receive their votes..
Senator Schumer privately expressed concerns directly to White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel about Chas Freeman, because of a statement he made about Israel.. It was stated when Freeman resign Schumer even bragged about it..
Do you believe anyone would even think about doing this if the situation were reverse and someone made a statement about Iran , Iraq , Syria or mostly any other country even North Korea as far as that goes...
Is this also to make sure that Jewish members or Jewish backers are selected to committees...and other top positions...
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the only difference between you and the woman who said "heil hitler" to the israeli guy at the town hall meeting is, at least she had the balls to say what she really feels and thinks
As far as I am concern you have a lot of nerve to attack one's statement on your personal view. I believe I had my balls hanging when I made the statement just the way I wanted to!
What I was discussing is the direct bias influence some leaders or persons have over our government policies and actions which are PREJUDICE for their personal likes. or dislikes..
I believe when you are a citizen of this country it's principles and concerns should outway that of any other nation..
I believe that Blackwater & Halliburton has to much control over our government's decisions. They are paid at least ten times the salary we pay our soldiers and our government seems to have no problem with this.. They also use soldiers from other countries , which we are supposedly are not even close to being friendly with..
I also believe we have too close of ties with other countries which we have outsourced around a million American jobs to in the past 8 years..
SO what I was stating was that we are very partial and one sided when it comes to attacking or defending certain countries or individuals ,,, depending on one's opinion and not based on facts..... And our government should base their actions and policies on facts and what is in the best interest for America and their citizens.
Call them persons up and tell them they have no balls...
http://www.wrmea.com/archives/Sept_Oct_2008/0...
“Once a year, the Israel lobby in Washington known as AIPAC holds its annual convention where anyone who is anyone in the political world comes to render fealty, rather than homage,” wrote Arnaud de Borchgrave, editor-at-large of The Washington Times. “It has become a political rite of passage, like a medieval contract for exchanging goods and services...Anyone who doesn’t pass the litmus test can"" forget"" about becoming president of the United States, or senator or even congressman...
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http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/middle-east...
Schumer takes credit for getting Chas Freeman Ousted
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Democrats. Maybe more of them are beholden to AIPAC, I don't know. But if you want to start slinging partisan mud, you're going to get called on being disingenuous, because even though you may not be, it's a common tactic of Repuglican, excuse me Rethuglican, I mean, Reduncelican--oh you know what I mean--trolls on this blog to throw in one of these quasi-conspiratorial charges at, you guessed it, Democrats only. So sling away but prepare to get buried in it in response.
picking on just israel is a bit disengenuous...dont you think?
I thought I was very disingenuous about my dislike for Lieberman or Schumer...
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In 2007 Schumer and Feinstein (key votes) said they were voting for Michael Mukasey .... which at that time confirmed his appointment as the next attorney general..
Mukasey stated in so many words ...
That all crimes are not crimes to be prosecuted and he believed Bush could do any thing he pleased...
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Republican abuses of our Constitution, civil rights, Justice system, etc etc etc.
That's your point, right, being sincere and all.
because joe thinks we need to tighten our belts...Makes sense to me! J Street is calling for a appraisal of what our 'aide' is really doing for the people of Israel anyway!
There have got to be other places..Like 'farm subsidies' in Montana and Dakota...for Conrad and Baucus!
............hahahahahaha you made my AM. Still laughing hahahahaha suspend aid to BLOODYISRAEL where we, peóns pay for national healthcare that no Amerikan can use!!!!
Because, after all, why would being unemployed AND sick at the same time be a problem?
I'm sure lots of money flows from the Federal coffers to Connecticut. I think we owe it to ourselves to cut off that flow, just for the duration of the recession, 'for the good of the Obama Presidency.'
Alan Grayson for President, Elizabeth Warren for Vice President, and Paul Krugman for Secretary of the Treasury!
Lieberquissling as the concern troll. What a self-serving, dishonest slimeball.
he's slimy even for a pol, his voice just oozes unctuousness.
Given that whatever "reform" is passed will take several years to be implemented, surely now is exactly the time to do the reform so it will be in place when the recession is over.
Worry about the uninsured later!! Basically what he is saying is don't do anything for them, because later will never come....especially if they don't get this health care passed.
It really saddens me deep down that a human being that is a "have," can have so little regard and no willingness to help the "have nots." Clearly Lieberman has not been "unemployed" and counting every penny and praying that he won't get sick.
Actually this recession is already ending, and health care reform will ease the lagging indicator of employment by taking the burden of providing health insurance to employees off the shoulders of employers.
Unless of course the employers are gambling on medical stocks on Wall Street.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/90227fdc-900d-11de-...
I prefer Rocky Road.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
that's pretty benign i expected more.
would do more to boost our economy than all the Trillions given away to the banks and stock market criminals.
It would guarantee Obama a second term.
It would be the not-so-thin wedge towards honest people accomplishing other very important reforms, such as Public Financing of Elections and Monopoly-Busting of the Media.
Now is the time, Mr. President. You're standing on the cusp and your actions will decide whether America slides into a poor and violent Police State of bullies & cowards, or will achieve Greatness thru courage and innovation.
... it will give absolute majorities to the Dems on both houses for at least one generation.
The normal MO of modern politicians is to act/lead based upon the feedback of focus groups, with ideological aspects be damned. In this respect, I think it is interesting that the Dems are not acting on this regard given the feedback they must have gotten from their focus groups.
No corporate funding can produce the same level of positive mindshare among the voters.
From a purely selfish value proposition... implementing a successful health care reform, which benefits most Americans, would provide far more positive electoral results for the Dems, than an almost unlimited amount of campaign funding from corporate interests.
It is the chance of a life time for any political party with both a spine and political aspirations. I am afraid that the Dems lack both.
in addition, meaningful health care cost reform will revitalize the economy. it will also slow down "outsourcing". as you know our economy is 70% consumerism. i'm NOT convinced that's coming back anytime soon. what you mentioned of course is a big part of the (r) opposition.
The Recession may be coming to an end, but the Depression is just getting started.
Look for another jobless recovery, an economic expansion where ALL of the wealth goes to the top 5%, and a further erosion of the middle class.
I wonder if I will live long enough to see the people in this country get sick of this corporate fascist shit sandwich the elites have been stuffing down our throats for thirty odd years?
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
If Gore had won, and been reelected, what are the chances that Liberman would now be president? Ick!
I generally admire Gore but can't overlook this HUGE lapse of judgment!
he got to actually make the choice....??!
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
DLC, just like LIEberman.
Some stuff you can't make up!
Gore's lapse of judgment?????????? Don't you mean Rahm Emmanuel's lapase of judgment in not backing Gore to do anything but step aside for the FASCIST second regime of the BUSHCRIMEFAMILY??????
Just Shut TF UP! Give up the coverage you and your family get until the recession is over...too chicken shit to do so, I'm sure.
me-oww!
Let the poor and suffering suffer for a bit longer. No big rush. It's not like people go bankrupt daily because of medical expenses. Or go homeless, or go hungry or die because of lack of medical care. that was just elite arrogance. just like this entire health care debate. The people with health care don't want people without to get it. If they do it might stop them from getting their lips injected.
is intended to be a factual statement
way those folks suffered because of not being able to afford health care almost brought me to tears... :(
I've never seen change without a fire
PBS in Dallas was doing a 50's doo-wop special instead.
It's been three weeks now without Moyers.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Give it up? He should be transferring it to his nearest poor neighbor. Oh, wait. That would be too close to Universal Health Care.
You give up your taxpayer-funded, "government-run" health care first. Then we'll talk about putting off until later the access to health care your constituents want. You know, for the good of the country and all. Hypocrite.
Another candidate for the "pie-in-the-face-NOW" sweepstakes.
@ysbaddaden "Actually this recession is already ending" It's not ending from where I am sitting.
If Obama does not get a strong comprehensive public option you can stick a fork in his Presidency. He will pander to dog dicks like lie-berman and triangulate like a Clinton and the dems will get there ass handed to them in 2010. If Obama passed a strong public option people like Lie-Berman will be so marginalized and eventually get bounced from congress.
I haven't been able to log on to C&L via Firefox since pretty early AM today. Cache, cookies, temp files all are cleared. This is the only site I've been unable to access via FF. No problems in IE. Anyone else?
Oh, and f*ck Lieberdouche.
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---Southwest Airlines
Might be your local server, or your computer...
brought to you by Firefox.
Is an old bookmark bad maybe? Try googling for a new link.
Tried to open off Google link, but just spins, waiting to open. Interesting that it doesn't time out, either from bookmark or Google link.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Have you used Adblock to block anything on C&L? I had the same problem a couple of weeks ago, and discovered that, when I THOUGHT I had blocked on picture on the site, I had actually hit the general block for all pics from that server, so the entire site was crapped up. When I went into Adblock and removed C&L from the block list, the site was fine.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
I've had same settings for this site for months. I don't think I've accessed NS for anything else recently, either. Will check though. Thanks.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f...
While I haven't gotten everything fixed by them, people are helpful and you can post a thread asking your question w/o signing up to be a member.
me-oww!
I posted there; hopefully will get an answer soon.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
to be my next question.
Other things to check, if you have GreaseMonkey - a script may conflict.
I have been having problems with non-reponsive scripts (on various sites), especially when multiple (OK, many...) tabs opened. Has been occurring occasionally over last month or so, generally clears when stopping scripts from the warning boxes.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Had to clear Browser Cache. Thought I had done already, but apparently not.
Thanks miss_kitty.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
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me-oww!
Have you tried reinstalling your Java engine?
(edit) NM, posted as you did. Glad it's working.
wait until it's completely broken meaning more become uninsured. this will only continue the ongoing bankruptcy demographic. lieberman is a fool. it's not for sure when the recession will be over and when will unemployment slow down. actually the thought is by some we could experience a double-dip(W) recession. the health care industry preys on desperate people who will pay any price to feel better.health care cost will double in 10 years if there's NO reform.
-but Hey! It isn't TOO red...yet.
I'll never forget this heartless f*ck's cheerleading for McWars last year. That was unforgivable, and it was revolting the way he weaseled his way back and avoided serious repercussion for that. Please keep him off the air and spare us his mediocrity.
Politics is for the present, but an equation is for eternity. Albert Einstein
The guy has no creds at all. He's a backstabbing, two-faced liar. I'd be curious to hear if anyone is planning a run at him in 2012. Of course, since he's now "his very own party of one," does that mean he automatically gets a bye past the primaries, not having to answer to his constituents until the general?
he can get a bye past the Primary for his party which I believe is called the Independent Democrat Party, which as you point out has very few members and he'd probably win a Primary with most of the dozen or so votes. HOWEVER the Democratic Party is another matter ALL together!! I don't know how CTs election laws are set up but I think in most states he'd be uneligable to run as a Dem without going through a Primary since he lost his last one.
Lamont would be the Democratic candidate unless he lost in a Primary challange.
As long as he goes back into hiding again and behaves he might be tolerable. I truly hope his constituents wisen up and kick his butt out the next elections there. A grilled cheese sandwich would be an improvement over this asshole.
Politics is for the present, but an equation is for eternity. Albert Einstein
(oh, right; he's a Democrat) have been sucking on Norquist's and Friedman's hind tits for so long - that they don't notice what many people have:
they don't have a clue as to how to govern (gubbermint.bad.ugh)
they think that nobody has noticed that trickle-nomics doesn't work
and they think that nobody is watching these clownz siphoning our money to corporate giants.
Oh yeah; both Democrats and Republicans need to notice that McSame was wolloped last year and the Democrats control the legislative and executive branches.
But if the Democrats get nothing done, they won't have to worry about that one much longer.
But I find you so untrustworthy, so turn-coat, and so taken into the Republican cronyism that if we all did what you don't want to do America would be better off.
Also, get some skin treatment. You're looking more like a shriveled head every day.
Here in Massachusetts people are required to buy private health insurance, of face an annual fine of $1,000. It's actually cheaper to pay the fine, which is what many people (including myself) wind up doing...
With the little that I earn, there is no private insurance I could afford...
Republicans claim to represent the 'culture of life', but when millions of Americans like myself are uninsured, their reaction to that is 'that's your f**king problem'.
Culture of life my ass....
Lieberman is just a closeted republican...like his right wing frinds, he cares only about $$$$$$$
....because you cannot afford healthcare?
That's insane!
What happens to the $1000....does it go into paying for healthcare for those who cannot afford it?
Or does the $1000 go to subsidize those who can afford to buy healthcare?
I'm stumped on that one.
'Talk to the hand'
One would think the reason people don't buy health coverage is because they can't afford it..and yet most who cant' afford insurance are stuck with the fine, the ammount of which will go up next year...
But those who make less than $15,000 a year are deemed too poor, and the fine is waived....
The policy in MA is a gift to the private insurers..
Another reason for me to think the the US Chamber of Commerce is an organized crime cartel.
'Talk to the hand'
That's for damn sure. Economic terrorists would be approbo.
Rush Limbaugh is what a smart person thinks a stupid bigot sounds like.
I'd be in the same boat as you. Too poor to buy insurance and too "rich" to get out of the fine. So I'd end up being fined $1000 for being poor. CUTE!! Somehow I think a plan almost exactly like that is what the gang of 6 with their work ethic challenged fearless leader Max
BaucusAsshole are plotting in the Finance Committee.And we could end up with that for the entire country.
I'd like to know when "health coverage for all" became "force everyone to buy insurance".
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
When did FDR pass Social Security? During the Depression years, because that's when people understand how much we need it. What a douche this man is. If you wait until the end of the recession, the numbers will all be improving, and then the douches will say, but everything's fine now.
said the same about the Iraq War?
Oooops, that's right, he was FOR us throwing away billions of dollars a month DURING A RECESSION as long as the money was used to kill people, and not help people.
LIEberman, there is no Hell hot enough for you.
but there is an article today with stats from a healthcare non-profit that indicates health care premiums will double in 10 years w/o reform, and then quadruple in 20. So a family that now pays 12,000 a year will see premiums double and so on. Where are people going to get that kind of scratch?
call me cynical but i think the global elites/financial elites don't want us to have health care for several reasons one being to make us/continue to be less competitive with the WallStreet darling CHINA. employers can't afford health care insurance for their employees. health care insurance goes up so to offset increases... wages are stagnate. if we don't do something like significant "reform" more outsourcing will continue. we will NOT be able to compete with countries that provide health care.
If the Repugs take back the House and Senate in 2010 because of the ineptitude of the Dems, there will be no controlling legal authority that would stop the Health Care Industry from f$%king Americans till we bleed.
'Talk to the hand'
That will be the least of our worries. And yet the Democrats seem hellbound for fury to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
He's got public health care that the rest of us can apparently do without.
career lobbying rewards:
Insurance $1,033,402
Health Professionals $1,041,362
Pharmaceuticals/Health Products $612,540
In March 2005, Lieberman’s wife, Hadassah, joined the Hill & Knowlton lobbying firm. She stated as her reason: "I have had a life-long commitment to helping people gain better health care". One of the firm’s major clients is GlaxoSmithKline, the British pharmaceutical company. In April 2005, Lieberman introduced a bill that would award new government “incentives” to companies like GSK to produce more vaccines — notably patent extensions on existing products.
Lets worry about Congressional pay and Congressional healthcare after the recession is over. They are mostly wealthy and can easily weather the storm. Working Americans are hurting badly now and are only a minor medical emergency away from total ruin! Help END the recession by passing Medicare For All TODAY!!!
And Liarberman concerned about it may hurt Obama! What a frigging joke!! Liarberman has been helping out his new BFFs on the far right fringe all he can to hurt Obama since the election!
Lets start balancing the budget on the salary and benefits of our representatives. First off, we need to freeze their pay, no more automatic raises.
Second we need to look at there benefits. I currently have to carry a $1,000.00 deductible in order to afford my health care and I make less than half of what our elected federal officials do.
Lets slap them with a $2,500.00 deductible and lock them to 70/30 reimbursement after that. Plus they need a cap in dental and vision benefits.
Its time to bring our legislators back to the real world.
in helping them realize what actual working Americans are going through!
You realize, of course, that you don't really get to vote on any of that but they do.
Let's see how far to the right they go before they fall off of the edge of this flat world.
To get a pay hike , by not voting for it..
It is not their salary or benefits they receive... But it is the salary and benefit they receive from these Global Giants for voting for their wishes..
If Americans jobs were not outsourced and wages cut. But if in fact they had received the same Percentage of increase in salary (in the past 8 plus years) as these Global Empire's ceo's then health payments , house payment would be not problem for American workers..
I would love to see the Global ceo's salary come back down to earth.
When ceo's outsource , cut workers jobs , wages and benefits they received huge bonuses and or salary increases for doing it..
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What an asshole.
The people of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage." J.K. Galbraith
Vote these people into office.. They certainly do not give a d... about us or our problems.. Talk about arrogant a... h...s
It is no longer what they can do for the citizens of this country , but what they can do for themselves...
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I think we shouldn't worry about Joe Lieberman and what he says till after he's dead.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
Unfortunately we can't afford that luxury.
No, Joe is not a traitor to his country, but he is a traitor to his party. Lieberman just needs to man up and join the republican party.
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...those who need help from the government, though. A traitor to his constituents in need.
when he finally joins the GOP...THEN he'll be a traitor to his country?
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...Sen. LIEberman believes the recession will last forever.
If he want's you thinking about what's good for his Presidency, he'll ask.
He's asking you to do what's right for the PEOPLE.
DEAL WITH THAT!!
Frankly, it won't be good for the Obama presidency.
And why would that be, Lieberman? Could it be because people like YOU are making damn sure it won't be good for Obama's presidency?
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
Jesus, do these rightr wing bastards have ANY sense of decency????
People are dying every day who have no health coverage- and they are suppose to wait????????
Obviously. Haven't you been paying attention?
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
What A DICK! But I mean that in a good way of course....Whaaa?
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
And I needed employees with at least a solid high school education. I'd do it in Canada. Cheaper overhead.
If I needed disposable warm bodies only, I might consider the US. But Mexico would be cheaper then.
If we want solid start-ups we need government health care. We are competing for them now, and losing because of it. Silly Leiberman.
If wasn't bad enough, he owes his victory to the Republicans who voted for him, as opposed to their own candidate. I wish they'd recall him, if possible.
He's not doing anything they object to.
Because of the recession we have more and more poople losing their health care, not being able to make co-pays, now is the time when it is needed most and the most people recognize the need.
This whole healthcare thing was intended to end in nothing at all for the little guy anyway. this way the Dems can say "well we tried!"
If they blow anymore smoke up there I'm gonna burst into flames for pete's sake!!!!!
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance - that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
Doesn't that sum up compassionate conservatism?
Divine Right of Kings (1600's); Divine Right of Corporations (2011)
I asked him to cross the aisle already since he's not a democrat. I mean look at the first three letters of his name. LIE. He's a despicable human being.
I'm a human being, and I resent that!
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
and I resent that!
Divine Right of Kings (1600's); Divine Right of Corporations (2011)
to try and deflect the failure to the dems. My gawd, some of them are working on reform. Any failure is due to the republicans that could give a shit about the little people.
I have an idea.
How about all of the politicians, such as Lieberman, who are so concerned about the fiscal health of our country give up their insurance and give it to the likes of myself, a hard working, college educated woman who cannot get health insurance for whatever lame reason the underwriters choose to deny me.
That way, it'll be even. I wonder if they'd even consider that. Seems fair to me! I would really like to have health insurance!
"it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God"
speed up recession recovery? Or at least halt the worsening? I'm just a 28 year old young woman, but even I know it doesn't help to have a sick populace shackled to health care debt! *sigh*
I've never seen change without a fire
That this is not the time to bring up Health Care (in a recession) is stupid. They opposed changes during the best years in the Clinton Administration.
This is a red herring.. especially when you consider that single payer public option would HELP the economy.
Joey and Hadassah to retire now and shove off for their homeland - Israel. He's such a great military expert, I'm sure the Israeli Generals could use his advice and counsel.
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
when he gets to Israel, he can hold a news conference and tell the American people why Israel has National Health Care for everyone..........while we ONLY send 3 Billion a year to Israel........more than any other country on the planet........30 Billion already approved by congress for the next 10 years!!!!
To be fair, Joe is right. How are we going to pay for Iraqistan or, heaven forfend, aid to Israel if we provide health care for the uninsured? Better to wait until we don't need money for either of those.
It's going to be a loooooong wait.
monumentally stupid without an immediate challenge from any person with more than 2 brain cells in the vicinity of this jackass.
During a recession is the exact time during which you have to make sure that social issues are taken care of. God gawd, it is like saying than we should worry about figuring out how to swim as soon as we get out of the water.
There is plenty of stupidity in the world, but lately I get the impression that our homegrown stupid are not only roaming free... they are in charge of the range.
Ah yes...Fighting Joe...The People's Joe...what a pusillanimous cocksucker he's turned out to be. Worried about President Obama's image, indeed! I cannot imagine what's inside his brain that made Joe think he could be President of the United States!
1) Lieberman and Lugar. How about a Democrat on the panel. It's hard to get the truth out when the airwaves are full of the Republicans.
2) So if we have to wait for the recession to be over, when do we reform healthcare? When the recession is over? We will have to wait for the investor class to recover. And when the investor class has recovered will be time then? No, we will have to ensuure that we don't damage the economy after we have been through this.
The bottom line is that the republicans DO NOT CARE about healthcare reform. They talk about healthcare being 18% of GDP, but can't connect the dots that it is because the healthcare companies are raping the system.
Republicans do care about health care reform, specifically how it will impact the finances of their beloved corporate patrons. 18% of the GDP is a hell of a lot of money, and whole bunch of which is showered down on those who are helping it go to 24%.
I guess its ok with Lieberman that 18000 Americans are dying each year because they don't access
to health care.
sick of this living dead zombie mother trucker.
...think how many uninsured will be dead from lack of healthcare by then. We'll save millions!
What a dick.
includes this bowl-floater. We need another round of housecleaning and it's going to be even more difficult, yet necessary, in 2010. The grassroots that carried Obama to the White House needs to focus on getting the Progressive headcount high enough that small-state corporate lackeys like Baucus and outright backstabbers like Lieberman can be rooted out of their hidey-holes.
Right Joe. As if anyone needs to take you seriously about anything. Especially when you fought hard to campaign for McCain / Palin.
Get the "F" outta here.
Lieberman is his own death panel. How many people will die without health insurance before Lieberman feels they can qualify for health insurance? McCain/Lieberman lost the election because the American public utterly rejected their policies.
What he isn't saying is that after the recession is over, and health care reform has been put off, we can invade Iran!
60 more people die each day that insensitive and selfish people like you delay the public option with your blatant shilling for the status quo. And it delays the day of reckoning to future generations when inevitably things will be a lot more expensive (to the tune of 15-25% per year or so) and complicated. But you got yours, so fuck you huh?
People like you belong in a mental ward, mot public service.
"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."
Robert F. Kennedy
Digby
"They pour syrup on shit and tell us it's hotcakes." Meteor Blades
till the recession is over? Then try promising your constituency that you will:
1. ONLY TELL THE TRUTH... and
2. ONLY WORK FOR THE PUBLIC GOOD.
How's THAT for a fresh start and a brand new slant on your career?
Hearing Lieberman's voice makes me sick. Like listening to Ann Coulter...
Forgive the repost of this question from a different thread, but I want to raise it in front of many for serious discussion.
Why aren't we marching in the streets about this? The numbers on our side dwarf those against the Iraqi invasion, yet not a peep is heard about showing our strength in favor of real health care reform.
Keep ANSWER and their issue hijacking agenda as far away as possible. The more popular liberal blogs are the place to organize. If they and Move-On can provide infrastructure to raise funds, they can help schedule street marches.
With numbers around merely a million in the streets, let's dare the media to ignore us once again, after they've abetted, even incited, the tea bagging gun toters who shout down the town hall meetings. Let's dare our reps to ignore us again too. Move-on, certainly, but Move Now! We have precious little time left to affect this issue.
Meeting to plan it tomorrow, people from more than one group.
I'm going with this guy: http://www.youtube.com/user/healthcareplease
Please tell the creator of the video that, despite what he thinks, he will probably not receive all the meds he needs in jail. (I've been in more than my share of them...) Everyone I've met who was on prescriptions, etc before going in has always had trouble getting their prescribed meds. It's a real uphill battle to get them, especially if they are strong, potentially abusable things like anti-psychotics. They're usually not allowed in general population facilities.
Best of luck!
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
I guess the lives of those who are dying because of the rampant greed of the big insurers is not reason enough for such fine human beings like Joe Lieberman.
I bet if it was him dying we'd have every reason to do it now.
Put the entire Congress on Medicaid (with the estate transfers etc.) until they legislate Medicare (doughnut hole and other problems removed etc.) for every American....cradle to grave.
That's it.
Once they realize how rotten that system is (Medicaid....can't find a decent doctor etc.) ....THEN perhaps they will be open to H.R. 676.
"One for all and all for one."
Can't we be just a tad bit human toward one another for once?
Thank you so much.
Good night all....
(Got all the kids here from L.A.....WHAT a day!!!.....Oy!!!!!)
P.S. Joe Lieberman makes me sick. Would the good citizens of Connecticut PRETTY PLEASE return him to the private sector.....in Israel?
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
Hartford, CT is sometimes called the "insurance capitol". It probably explains a lot why Lieberman holds the position he does on this matter.
I'm sure that once the recession was over, that Lieberman would come up with some other reasons why health reform should be delayed.
Sit the hell down. Shut the fuck up. Never enter my TV screen again.
NOBODY 2012
Take a look at his hands. Like he's visualizing the grab for insurance cash.
It's alright ma it's life and life only!
Sorry; didn't mean to reply, just to comment.
Perhaps Joe can wory about his re election bid after the election? Maybe he could stay and actually work instead of going on "recess"?
I think most realize that Joe is concerned about Joe and not doing anything that those that voted for him would want him to do. He definately believes corporations actually mark those ballots.
Nobody, and I mean NOBODY, cares what LIEberman thinks. He made a pact that he could keep his appointments if he promised to NEVER prosecute ANYONE, and that's one promise he's kept.
liarbeman never made it to the whitehouse!
Could you imagine having this old fool and mcstain and chenny OMG the trifecta of stupidity, greed and evil. These people are sickening!
Cheerleader for the War on Iraq (or Iran, or Syria, etc.)?
Spoken like someone who lets the taxpayers subsidize HIS health insurance. A true prick.
Israel First!
And let's wait until after the depression to worry about the jobless, the homeless, the sick and the hungry.
Meanwhile let's lower some more taxes on the wealthy so we can borrow some more money from China to supply some more arms to Israel or maybe start another oil war or two.
If one short war could bring us out of the first depression, think what a dozen more endless wars could do.
What state is Lieberman from? The biggest insurance company state in the nation, Connecticut. He knows delay means death of reform. His motives are tissue thin. Lieberman's a fucking tool in addition to being a hack and a backstabber.
Delay will most assuredly kill healthcare reform. Fixing healthcare is a also a big part of fixing the economy. Why doesn't Leiberman stop this charade and just go ahead and proclaim his loyalty to the Republican Party and Israel.
...and to the big insurance companies of Connecticut.
Not our fault, aye? Travelers HQ is in St. Paul, Anthem is in Richmond, Cigna is in Philly. They may have started here but have had a much reduced presence for years. Our tax burden is too high for them.
Let me put this in a term your Judaic heritage would understand:
PUTZ!
Democratic Party progressive, Vietnam veteran and proud Union member for 41 years
What rck did they drag this piece of garbbage out from under. Oh! Obama is on vacation so they drag out the rest of the Racist Nazi Christian (Jew) Trash. yes Jews can be NAZIS its about HATRED This traitors trade mark.
He's such an embarrassment.
The people have waited LONG enough!
FUCK YOU AND the entire GOP, you fuckin fascist traitors!
You mean Joe Lieberman the beast senator Israel ever had. I was going to correct that misspelling until I said "better in than out".
Lieberman is actually a Reslug obstuctionist piece of shit. He's got to go.
I was enjoying not thinking about this man. Thanks for spoiling that.
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