Kristol calls for drilling closer to shore
The next oil spill could reach the coast days earlier if The Weekly Standard's Bill Kristol has his way. Kristol told Fox News' Chris Wallace that he would like to see future drilling closer to shore.
"Look, it was a bad accident but the fact is I think we get one-third of our domestic oil from the Gulf, from offshore drilling in the Gulf. We need it. We can't cut back on it," said Kristol.
"If we hadn't stopped closer-in drilling after the Santa Barbara accident 40 years ago -- we've had these Congressional restrictions until 2008, for 40 years -- we'd have more drilling closer in which is probably less dangerous, less treacherous than trying to drill 50 miles out from the coast," Kristol explained.
But it's not just drilling closer to shore that Kristol wants. The neoconservative is also calling for onshore drilling in Alaska's ANWR.
"If we want to have some onshore drilling we have this thing called ANWR up in Alaska. Which is right there. There is no waves, no ocean. It's right there and perfectly easy to drill. A lot of oil there. I'm a drill, baby, drill person," he said.
of being WRONG, yet again. Hurricanes and offshore oil rigs don't mix well. Neither does commercial ship traffic and offshore oil rigs. Crude oil and wildlife also don't get along together.
But 'Mad Dog" Kristol has reiterated his greedy sociopathic misogynist credentials with the bat-shite crazy Palinista crowd. Perhaps that was his primary intent -- maintaining his credibility with the Reich-wing fringe elements. Do you suppose he has some future political ambitions?
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-- John F. Kennedy
That's how these old losers all start to act at his age. What's it called again? Kow-towing? No, wait, desperation. That's the one. Smarmy desperation.
Personally I kinda like that Progressive Insurance chippy...
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I'm in love with her.
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I now think if they made a live action version of the James Bond/North By Northwest spoof A Man Called Flintstone, they need to get Stephanie Courtney (Flo the Progressive Girl) as Betty Rubble, Amy Yasbeck as Wilma Flintsone, and then Robert De Niro, Kenneth Brannagh, Clive Owen, Patrick Stewart and Christopher Walken as Fred Flintstone, Barney Rubble, Rock Slag, the Spy Boss and the villain.
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Todd's pants. Not that there is anything wrong with that except either way it would be adultery.
palin's a kow?
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Oh, wait...
It's just a damned nuisance.
me-oww!
A source of constant amazement and irritation for me.
A couple of weeks after Hurricane Katrina, at some kind of press conference, GW was asked something like, "But NATURE is going to bring more hurricanes, etc, we MUST take NATURE into consideration."
His response?
"Nature doesn't get to choose."
OMFG !!!
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
The arrogance is stunning, isn't it?
drilling oil is safe and non harmful maybe we should start drilling where they live and have their summer homes
how much did exxon/mobil finally have to pay for the disaster in alaska after they fought it for so long they should be bankrupt for what they did
get to choose. That was arrogant. That was beyond arrogance--it was hubris. Fuck GWB and the golf cart and SCOTUS appointment he rode in on.
"Charlie don't surf"
Piss on this clown , he's the male version of Sarah Palin except that his voice isn't nearly as irritating .
"The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all."
Like up your own ass, Billy?
but, there's really no market for snake oil, which, is all this doosh has to offer.
Aren't any of these fux Noise assholes embarrassed to have such a complete idiot spewing his special stupidity???
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every time you throw a little mud , you lose a little ground .
Ever heard the "birds of a feather" saying ? There is your answer .
"The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all."
discoveries of oil, estimated to be bigger than all the ME reserves, is located in N Dakota, S Dakota and Montana. Why aren't they pumping oil from there?
Too much oil would lower prices...
Only with shortages can you deliver the least amounts for the greater profit...
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Btw, there are already pipelines planned from Alberta into the Dakotas, with eminent domain being used to claim the path.
http://energy.usgs.gov/flash/Bakken_slideshow...
of the strawberry growers in Florida. Couldn't get the prices they wanted so they destroyed their crops.
NY are quite cheap, now, having come from CA. Our strawberry season is in June. We'll send you some.
Occasionally, the free market idea works.
utterly tasteless and smell vaguely of the wastewater that they're fertilized with. I'll wait till they're in season in my neck of the woods, another month or so.
I forgot about that wastewater thing. I am trying to adjust to eating seasonably, but right now up here, all we have is lettuce. My nose is starting to twitch and my ears are getting long. There will be peas soon.
I've read / heard the same thing , never thoroughly looked into it though , real or myth ?
"The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all."
There are too many sources to check but you might try N Dakota and oil, National geological and oil or just oil in the U S of A. I get a headache trying to research some of these things.
The USGS revised their estimate of these ( the Bakken reserve ? ) by 4+ times , last year .
My welding shop is sitting in storage in MT. , and I was thinking of setting up my shop as portable for this , hurry up and wait .
every time you throw a little mud , you lose a little ground .
and there are companies eager to go after it.
But there isn't that much there, according to what I've read.
Certainly not enough to warrant turning our northern states into another disgustingly brutal Alberta Oil Sands.
they said it would be less than a 50% recovery rate and its size was app 5 billion barrels , I am going on memory here and have CRS .
every time you throw a little mud , you lose a little ground .
First, we have been pumping the Bakken reserve since the 1970s, but the technology required to extract even a small portion of the oil is extremely expensive and MOST of the alleged oil may never be recoverable.
Read this detailed report:
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/3868
What part of ...
"there is no more oil in the US" is so hard to understand?
Why is it so hard for you to understand that the US oil fields reached peak production in the 1970s and has declined since then?
There he goes, spouting off again. Bill? We don't really know where much of our oil comes from because oil companies don't have to declare their sources before the gas gets pumped into a car.
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... a lot of seafood from the Gulf. That could torpedo some restaurants, not only in the Gulf States, but anyone who serves regional cuisine.
So instead of Gulf shrimp, people will be buying stuff from China/Thailand, while our own fisheries and businesses go down the toilet.
scallops grown in feces and anti-freeze laced water.
A pity. One of my favorite restaurants has a killer crawfish etouffe.
craw fish are fresh water
The oil will get to them in due time.
somebody might want to check and see if Darth Cheney has any investments in Pacific Rim fish market stocks. I wouldn't put it past him to have his Halliburton connections sabotage that oil rig in order to destroy the domestic fishing industry, if he thought it would earn him another buck or two.
issue. That's two.
Japan buys from the East Coast, which this spill is likely to reach.
That's the new American way don't you know?
Man,
All these threads on the oil spill, how many ways can you say they're bad?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXnUZBD_qV4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4_tOiLB_Ko&fe...
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Just a few more threads, a hundred more comments, and we will have stopped the leak with nothing more than our liberal, bitchin mouths.
Being powerless and only being able to observe the madness ... is a bitch .
"The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all."
have finaly destroyed Louisiana. That'll teach 'em not to vote fer oil billionaires.
If anyone is volunteering on coastal cleanup in the affected states, and you use an oil-absorbing towel, perhaps it needs to be sent to Bill Kristol and/or FOX News.
(Of course, they'll claim it's terrorism.)
Failing that, we just need to throw Kristol into the surf and tell him to 'swim, baby, swim!'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ap5eQyNdDk&fe...
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But he STILL does not apply common sense, nor intelligence to this topic.
Drilling for oil is messy and dangerous and harmful to us all.
Burning oil products is destructive to the environment.
The TRUE COST of gasoline is TEN TIMES its retail cost at the pump.
SOOO...
Kristol is wearing blinders. He can't appreciate or acknowledge the most OBVIOUS parts of this issue. Let's find and develop a safe and clean ALTERNATIVE!
Just one call for nationallizing all natural resources , and not sell them on the open market ( traded maybe for like wise other materials ) , what an uproar that would cause , that would be fun ! .
every time you throw a little mud , you lose a little ground .
hey. Now that is a great, constructive suggestion.
My biggest problem with the drill baby drill mantra is that it will help us achieve independence from foreign oil. That would only be true if the oil was not sold on the open market. But of course, it will be. And if demand will outstrip supply as it is predicted, drilling off the Atlantic coast would be barely a drop in the bucket, but a huge profit to a hand full of companies and individuals.
... racing for a slice of a limited resource.
We need to be leading and innovating - getting to that new energy resource and stamping it 'MADE IN AMERICA.' That's how you get independence.
I swear we are so close to stand alone power generating systems that work, as well as storage for intermittent power sources such as wind and solar, that we should be fitting all new homes to be off the grid, rather than talking about where to drill next and the absurd notion of replacing current electrical infrastructure with a "smart grid".
We are already there. Its just that utilities, oil and our government are not.
is that the costs for converting to off-grid housing is being kept artificially high to prevent the average homeowner from doing it. Until the cost of solar panels, small wind turbines and storage capabilities come way down, people who live in the lower-to-middle income brackets won't be able to afford the remodeling.
Minimum interest rate. Small monthly payment.
But you don't want to be completely off of the grid.
You want to be able to send out energy as well as pull it in. Negating the need for oil, coal or nook power plants.
Every home and most other structures could potentially be small power plants. You take what you need, and send out the rest.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
amounts of money from it, it is a socialist plot to kill your grandma. God and country, what is wrong with you? Expect Palin at your house to video her crunching any household pets you have and making use of them on her
twattertwitter account.There will have to be some huge power plants.
We can't realistically think that we will be able to get completely away from those things.
That'll never happen.
But we can cut back on the need for new ones that are either fossil fuel driven of nookular.
It would also greatly reduce the big energy corps incomes . I'm ok with that. But, they'll still get a slice of the pie.
Personal wind turbines are also a good way to supplement energy. They're pretty small. The blades range from about 6 inches wide to about 2 feet wide for personal use. A little larger if you have the space(ranch or farm)
When those things are spinning, they supply quite a bit of energy.
But who's kidding who here?
They will fight this tooth and nail. No long term profits in it for them..
Is the bar open yet?
What is your conceptual, continuity?
IF when Bush "gave back" the Clinton surplus (I got a $300 check if I recall correctly) it had been divided evenly amongst all 300 million Americans, each of us would have received just a few dollars short of $5000 - EACH.
Family of four - $20,000.
About the cost of installing a full solar electric system in a modest house.
.. yeah .. IF!
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
Even people who know this, ESPECIALLY people who know this, just keep racking up the dollars playing the Wall Street casino games.
...is the perfect excuse to mask the massive inflation of the overprinted oil dollar.
Burnbanke and the printing presses over at the federal reserve are actually responsible for the rise in oil prices. (that are coming soon)
the dollar is growing weaker, (not the supply of oil)
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.. and all the gamers are moving money into oil futures .. exactly what brought down the whole house of cards in July 2008 - $147 a barrel oil ..
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
...at the very same time the world economy (and oil demand) goes down.
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The only petroleum based product krystolnacht need worry about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gsoSAq9YKA
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gulf oil is not "foreign" oil. we look to alternate sources of energy so we don't have to deal with "inevitable" oil spills.
COAL: Requires digging deep underground, extensive risks to workers. Byproducts of mining and use are bad for the environment.
OIL: Requires drilling deep underground / deep underwater, extensive risks to environment.
SUNLIGHT: No digging/drilling required. The big difference is that it's an open, free resource.
the resource is free, but the technology to convert the resource into usable power is not. It is being kept artificially high in order to discourage its use by the average citizen. Whenever those technologies become more affordable, you can bet your bottom dollar that the big oil conglomerates will buy up all of the patents, therefore keeping control of this country's energy supply.
Perhaps those for energy alternatives should be reserved for the people. Real people, not artificially created people.
...a regular basis.
(and America should too)
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point so completely. I am weak with surprise.
all natural resources reserved for the " real " people .
every time you throw a little mud , you lose a little ground .
"To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries"
US Constitution, Article I, Sec. 8, Cl 8.
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Chlorophyll is a green pigment found in most plants, algae, and cyanobacteria.
Works for nature, maybe we should figure it out as a power source.
BP stands for British Petroleum, and it's the Gulf of Mexico.
Moron.
I bet wee willy has trouble keeping his rig up...
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to seal the leak?
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/05/02-0
Apparently right now the only two options are to allow the leak to fill the Gulf of Mexico and the Eastern Seaboard or to nuke it and close it off.
I feel like I'm reading a really bad novel that I'd prefer to simply put down and throw in the trash can.
Or that I'm in a really bad play I'd like to just get up and walk out of, go get a drink and say, "Thank God that was just a dreadful play".
No wonder I couldn't sleep last night.
This is all so fucked up.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
Maybe we can use kristol's big head to cork this well.
The standards these people use to determine such things are quite lax, aren't they?
... the millions of teabaggers (according to Fox) who marched on D.C. to go down to the water and drink in all the oil.
Because we know they'll swallow anything.
...I'll be there.
(I figure I could collect a barrel a day if the well head leak is as bad as they say it is...
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ANWAR is perfectly easy to drill. Just like they have perfected ocean drilling to be perfectly safe. Where does Krystol live? I think he needs a nuclear plant in his back yard.
weapons of mass destruction, new paradigm on Wall Street, new paradigm on real estate. We need a new dead pool. What is next?
Spoken like a true addict.
Or a spoiled 2 yr old: "B-b-b-ut I WANT it!"
Reaganistic American Exceptionalistic BullShit.
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
You preach ONLY to your own choir, Bill. No one with a real intellect sees you as anything but an archaic joke living on his father's reputation. A second generation asshole. The Bushs have you beat--they're third generation assholes.
always the dumbest one in the room.
"They don't like you, Billy, because they know you are superior to them." This after he got "pantsed" on a play ground. Many "swirlies" followed. Still do.
Bill Kristol, nominee for dumbfuck of the day.
How about if we drill in your backyard, Bill? Or does the NIMBY rule apply only to you?
Democratic Party progressive, Vietnam veteran and proud Union member for 41 years
He thinks the entire world is his backyard.
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Who's with me?
FOX gets the NY Times rejects.
You know it's wrong!
Someone left the human out of this being!
Say the exact opposite of reality.
Monopoly increases consumer choice. Deregulation improves the life of the consumer. Removing governmental oversight improves the safety of the workers. And any of their environmental advice, of course, involves incredibly more harm than any current plan in place.
Where is the proof (or logic) that drilling closer to shore is any safer than drilling 50 miles of the coast? NONE, once again we're subjeted to "Wrong-ways" baseless reasoning and mindless solutions.
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Hopefully humanity will one day learn to be humane.
in his own mind.
is never right about anything, greedy basterds.
You gotta love the spin. If we had more oil wells, we would have less spills. Of course. Why didn't I think of that? My whole life has been wasted!
We can only thank God he and Palin never had a child. Can you imagine...
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Shameless troll...with a persistent grin I'd like to slap.
and she didn't seem to back down from her drill baby drill approach. Check it out here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnOCj9nwbQY
that Bill Kristol is wrong on so many issues!
If Goldman wants a sure bet go short on Kristol!
You're also a sanguinary psychopath, Bloody Bill.
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drills the teeth of the hero without novocaine?
The Marathon Man.
Steve Martin's performance as the sadistic dentist boyfriend of Audrey is excellent!
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Bloody Billy has been wrong for so long. He is wrong on so many fronts.
Word has it that Cheney and some of his Halliburton buddies were seen on a yacht near by wearing scuba gear shortly before the rig caught fire .
"The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all."
some damage?
he makes it sound like a car with a dinged fender.
what a callous mofo.
Who is this guy? WHY does he get a camera pointed at him whenever he opens his trap? Is this guy somebody we need to listen to? Isn't he just an old neocon war hawk HAS BEEN? Do we not give him legitimacy by gracing him in the news?
Are there even words for this kinda of BS?
Someone should make Bill KKKristol do a "Bear Grylls".
Take Kristol down to the gulf, throw him in the oil-tainted water with a life jacket, and let him swim his own way back to the shore unassisted. No help, on his own he has to find the materials he needs to get the oil out of his mouth and eyes. Let him see what it's like for the birds and fish.
If it's not bad like he says, it should be no problem for him.
Course not - because this branch of the economy, which, like Wall St & Health Care makes a tiny few obscenely wealthy at the expense of everyone else, has also been allowed to get Too Big Too Fail.
And so we must pay and pay and pay and pay to keep the thieves at the top incomprehensibly rich and keep ourselves shackled to paying them for energy that should be the property of all of us.
No, I'm not talking socialism - unless 1950's America was Socialist. It was not unusual for utilities to be municipally owned then. But, like everything else the Right promised would be better if privatized, utilities are now corporate-owned excuses to pillage communities - remember the Enron rapefest in California?
They already have us believing that clean water must be bought in a plastic bottle from a corporation - they'd sell the air if they could figure out a way to do it! And they desperately need us to believe that we have no choice but to keep paying them while they make more and more money, and more and more messes and disasters, like the mine disaster that just happened.
For God's Sake, ENOUGH ALREADY!! Communities need to take back control of their own utilities and start directing themselves towards being able to sustain themselves - it will be a lot cheaper than feeding the bottomless pit of avaricious greed that is the energy Plutocrats.
And we need to stop believing that we have no choice about our other energy needs, that theirs is the only way.
The use of this phrase is getting to me. What happens if they do fail? We'll survive, they won't. That's what. I'm crying on the inside. Let them all fail.
that they'll take a significant chunk of the economy down with them--as Goldman Sachs/AIG/et al. did, then they're too big to fail.
The answer is, of course, to break them up, but no one is saying that.
I call for Bill Kristol the shut the F up!
On occassion he makes a good point, but he is clearly in the corporate side of the isle.
Drill, Baby, Drill...in this idiot's head, maybe someone can plant some brain cells there, and they'll take root. What an idiot, all he really wants is something lewd with Sarah McWordSalad
When you get raptured, can I have your car?
Why is it so hard for Americans to understand that virtually every square inch of land in the US has been explored and if it was even remotely promising, was drilled for oil. We could drill down to ten miles on every bit of the US and we will NOT find enough oil to make the US self sufficient in oil based energy.
The US IMPORTS 75% of its oil needs and no amount of drilling on the US land and waters out to the 200 mile economic limit will change that situation, ever.
Not only that but most wells that are drilled now REQUIRES oil to be priced at at least US$75/bbl to make economic sense.
The US government has KNOWN since the 1970s that the US oil production was past its peak and that the entire world's oil production would be past its peak in the early 21st century, BUT absolutely NOTHING has been done to develop and deploy alternatives to oil based energy.
There is NO argument that the world oil production will peak, the ONLY disagreement is when? The majority of the "experts" agree it will happen by 2025, yet the US still continues to ignore the coming economic disaster. WHY?
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