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Fox News employee and Republican presidential contender Mike Huckabee said Sunday that President Barack Obama's decision not to defend key parts of the Defense of Marriage Act (DOMA) was actually alienating his African American base.

In a Wednesday statement, Attorney General Eric Holder wrote, "the President and I have concluded that classifications based on sexual orientation warrant heightened scrutiny and that, as applied to same-sex couples legally married under state law, Section 3 of DOMA is unconstitutional."

Fox News' Chris Wallace talked with Huckabee about the decision Sunday.

"You say that that could destroy the president," Wallace noted. "Isn't that over the top?"

"No," Huckabee replied. "He alieniated the African American community. Overwhelmingly, they support traditional marriages more than Hispanics and more than whites."

"Within the white community it's about 56 percent, 65 percent in the Hispanic, 75 in the African American community," he explained.

"He said he believes that it's unconstitutional," Wallace pointed out.

"He said that because some lower court decided a part of DOMA was unconstitutional, that he would not enforce it," Huckabee countered. "By that logic, then he should not try to implement Obamacare because some lower courts already decided that it is unconstitutional. That's hypocritical."

"It's hypocritical and it's dishonest because when he ran for president, Chris, he said that he supported traditional marriage. He is on the record. Now, the question is, was he dishonest then, is he dishonest now or did he change his view? And if he did, when and why?"

In fact, White House press secretary Jay Carney explained Wednesday that Obama's views on gay marriage were separate and distinct from this decision.

"I don't think that what he is doing is constitutional," the Republican presidential candidate added. "If a president begins to decide which pieces of the law he will choose to support or endorse or enforce, based on a lower court decision, not because it is actually bubbled up to a final adjudication, that is an unusual precedent for a president to take."

Wallace quickly pointed out that Huckabee had his facts confused. The Obama administration said that while the discriminatory law would no longer be defended in court, it would be still be enforced.

"It's really the same thing," Huckabee insisted. "He has decided that this is a part of the law he doesn't like so he is not going to recognize it. I don't think a president in the executive branch can thumb his nose at a branch of government that is incomplete in its assessment of the law."

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JTBcat's picture

Shut the fuckabee up, Mike.

Mike.K.'s picture

By being nice to the gays the president will alienate all those fearful, ignorant, Bible-thumping African-Americans? This is just offensive to someone with cognitive abilities on so many levels. I *think* he's pandering to his base's "I'm not racist!!1!" racism by implying, "Look! We agree with you people! We're not racist; we're good Christians!"

I'm just so sick of all Teh Stoopid on the airwaves. And I haven't even finished my morning coffee....

ricky's picture

Don't they have a billboard up in Manhattan saying the most dangerous place for a black child is in the womb?

http://crooksandliars.com/nicole-belle/how-lo...


"That's fu*#ing retarded."
Big City Mayor

Trantorian's picture

has been torn (OK taken) down.


"Someday somebody related to some of these sufferers, these victims, these collaterally damaged souls, may try to kill you. And I have to tell you, I think you’ll have it coming." - Christopher Cooper

freder421's picture

the last thing that this black man is worried about is gay marriage. It is of no concern to me what two or more consenting adults do. Let me clear that up, as long as it is legal.

ExpatZ's picture

It was ruled UNCONSTITUTIONAL by Federal District Court in Boston, who gives a rats ass how popular it is?
The point of the constitution is to protect the weakest members of a society from the tyrannies of the majority.

To wit:

In his decision, U.S. District Judge Joseph Tauro concluded that “there is a historically entrenched tradition of federal reliance on state marital status determination,” and found that DOMA not only violates the tenth amendment but also “induces the Commonwealth to violate the equal protection rights of its citizens” embodied in the Due Process Clause of the Fifth Amendment.

“DOMA plainly conditions the receipt of federal funding on the denial of marriage-based benefits to same-sex married couples, though the same benefits are provided to similarly-situated heterosexual couples,” the Court ruled:

As irrational prejudice plainly never constitutes a legitimate government interest, this court must hold Section 3 of DOMA as applied to Plaintiffs violates the equal protection principles embodied in the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution.

US politicians are idiots, every single damn one of them.


"Why don't you love me, you b!*ch! I burned your house down for us!"
-Modern American diplomacy

. . . as to whether a law is constitutional or not.

Obama's policies are alienating and disturbing but not because Huckabee sez so...because he is a bipolar politician, campaigns to the left and placates the right. Anyone who sees gay marriage as a threat to heterosexual unions is just messed up. If a man and a woman are walking down the street holding hands, and sees two guys holding hands, does that stir up jealousy? Is the temptation so great, you'll let go of their hand and seek a same-sex partner? This is is so ignorant, I feel like I am in a Kafka novel these days.


bys1955

berniem's picture

huckabee alienates African Americans just by being huckabee! FREE BRADLEY MANNING!!!

appnzllr's picture

I only read the title of the post, and I didn't listen to the clip. But my impression from what I've heard about the black community is that they are conservative when it comes to religious issues, and they are not supportive of gay rights - on average. It's hard to generalize, since every group has a broad range of views in it, but statistically, I would guess they are not sympathetic.

MaryK's picture

You probably also still think that the black community, as conservative as they are, don't approve of interracial relationships either.


"Courtesy is owed. Respect is earned. Love is given." --Unknown author, found in Guide to Texas Etiquette by Kinky Friedman

Ape-Man's picture

...or racial integration.

It's pure garbage appnzllr. The hucksters opinion falls under the 'you're wrong but even if you were right , it's irrelevant". Republicans are always making wrong but irrelevant statements like this.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

Peter G's picture

which racial group most strongly supported the anti-gay marriage proposition in left-coast California. I doubt Huckabee is correct in his assessment of the damage it will do but there is an element of truth in what he says.


Hasa Diga Eebowai

ricky's picture

I would make a distinction between choices made by those who vote on a given ballot item in one election and what people as a whole want. Same for subgroups.

If Blacks supported "traditional marriage" more than Whites or Hispanics (which is the Hucksters contention here) it would show up in practice, not just at the polls.

http://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/20...


"That's fu*#ing retarded."
Big City Mayor

Peter G's picture

But it does matter who turns up at the polls. I suppose that it is highly probable church based voter registration drives could have accounted for the difference. In essence bringing out the more conservative elements of the black population instead of a truly representative one.


Hasa Diga Eebowai

ricky's picture

which is why the Slate article you cited in another comment, based on exit polls, is problematic. Exit polls with a sample size as low among African Americans as that one can have an error margin of +/- 10%.

A study conducted after the election found this:

"Exit polls found that 70 percent of black voters backed Prop. 8 on Nov. 4, even as they overwhelmingly supported Democratic Sen. Barack Obama, who opposed the same-sex marriage ban.

But an analysis of precinct-level voting data on Prop. 8 from Alameda, Los Angeles, Sacramento, San Diego and San Francisco counties, which are home to nearly two-thirds of California's black voters, suggested that African American support for Prop. 8 was more likely about 58 percent.

That support among blacks is still well above the 52 percent Prop. 8 received from all voters in the Nov. 4 election. Much of that can be attributed to the strong religious tradition in the black community, where 57 percent of African American voters attend church at least once a week, compared with 42 percent of Californians overall.."

http://articles.sfgate.com/2009-01-07/bay-are...

Keep in mind that there was also, as I recall, disinformation put out by Prop. 8 supporters indicating Obama supported a yes vote.


"That's fu*#ing retarded."
Big City Mayor

The Last Word's picture

My guess is that older African-Americans, who are more likely wedded to traditional Christian doctrine and who are more likely to vote than younger people, made up the bulk of those who voted in favor of Proposition 8.

ricchase's picture

Sure.....They do!

stunvegas's picture

There is no 'they' in the black community. Blacks (gasp) are just like any other community - lots of differing opinions spanning the spectrum from flaming liberals to hard core conservatives.

Mr. Huckabee is simply playing to his ignorant base, and trying pull in the aforementioned conservative blacks for his upcoming presidential run.

Edwin's picture

Well said.


far left loon >.<

Geronimo.'s picture

Mike Huckabee needs to learn to shut the fuck up.


"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt

miss_kitty's picture

for opinions on what Black people think. He is funky and down with the shit going on in Black America.

Yo Huckzizzle!

diffrntdrummr's picture

My sentiments too. That dude has always had his finger on the pulse of Blacks everywhere.Just like Beck speaks for all people with brains and Newt Gingrich speaks for all married people. And let's not forget the Boner who speaks for all Americans.Just when I think teh stupid bar can't go any lower.....

Paul the Sax Guy's picture

Yep... somehow, this middle-aged white dude (me) somehow has a problem believing that that particular middle-aged white dude has any idea what's the opinion of the "African American Community" (as if all black folks think alike, talk alike, and see the world in the same way, as in lockstep...

Especially as he's a right-wing Babdis preacher from Arkansas fercryinoutloud! (No, the Clintons don't count, as one does not become a Rhodes Scholar by being a parochial hick)


In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose

Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com

CFAmick's picture

Who let the dogs out?

African-American community all of a sudden. *eyeroll*

And as for the Latino community, acceptance of the GLBT community is slowly increasing. And we are having a healthy dialogue right now, partly because of Ricky Martin's coming out of the closet and becoming a single gay daddy to two precious little boys.

So fuck you Huckabee.


"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui

Ape-Man's picture

It's the hucksters backward way of saying blacks are as backwards as republicans. It's a variation of the 'they do it too' cop out.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

smithersSOCAL's picture

reading your post bummed me out. there have been gay latinos forever.... Ricky Martin is late to the party.

It will be a great day when gay folks stop looking to celebrity for courage.

don't have openly gay friends and family, the celebrities pick up the slack. My family has already been dealing with this for a while and pre-Ricky because a cousin of mine came out of the closet a few years back, and I am still slowly coming out to our large, extended Latino family. But Ricky Martin's coming out seems to make things a little easier for Latinos to come out to their families and seems to make it a little easier on the families too.


"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui

Paul the Sax Guy's picture

There will be few children better cared for and provided for than the little boy adopted by Sir Elton John and his spouse also... OK, he's not Latino, but he's very, very much in the public eye.

As our colleague stated below, it's true that gays (or any of the groups targeted by the right wing) need to stop looking to celebrity for courage, but let's differentiate between ideal and actual. The fact is that Americans in general have always seemed to keep seated until some celebrity comes out for whichever cause affects them. Bravo to Messrs. Martin and John (no Abraham, apparently) for helping to wake people up.

Full disclosure: I'm white, straight and middle-aged, so I don't fall into any of the discussed groups, but I do believe deeply and strongly in equal rights for all, and if anyone's rights are diminished or taken away, all are diminished thereby.


In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose

Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com

husband the chance to have a child before this adoption came together.


"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui

Edwin's picture

Gingrich thinks this might be an impeachable moment.

http://www.salon.com/news/newt_gingrich/index...


far left loon >.<

Coyote Bongwater's picture

To be fair, Gingrich thinks literally everything Obama does is a justification for impeachment.

Pete the Liberal's picture

cause this is news to me.

Ape-Man's picture

Huckster = Wrong but Irrelevant


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

ricchase's picture

I've thought about this alot, and I am still not certain how I should feel about the surprising (to me) lack of support by Black Americans (not to mention Uganda) towards gay people.. I am inclined to think this is somewhat if not entirely hypocritical. I suppose most of today's Black people do not remember Gay men and women standing side by side with them throughout the 60's and 70's. And this support from the Gay community has not wavered. Perhaps this unquestioned support should be re-examined.

Captain Kangaroo's picture

Perhaps this unquestioned support should be re-examined.

No, just keep doing the correct thing. Always.

Plantsmantx's picture

"And this support from the Gay community has not wavered."

Oh, I don't know. When CNN released that poll which "showed" that black voters in California put Prop 8 over the top, a lot of the gay community "wavered" like a mug.

Phoenix Justice's picture

I think there are many legitimate issues for the black community to be upset with President Obama about, but I don't think his evolving stance on marriage equality for gays and lesbians is one of those issues.


Election 2012: Be Educated! Be Active! Vote!

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Trantorian's picture

I mean come on, Mikey. You really think you can steal a chunk of the black vote from Barack Obama? That's basically what you are inferring here.


"Someday somebody related to some of these sufferers, these victims, these collaterally damaged souls, may try to kill you. And I have to tell you, I think you’ll have it coming." - Christopher Cooper

HILARIOUS


Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang
Congress' TREASON have no boundaries, so does M$M's brainwashing/sidetracking
Republicans for Voldemort
Government does work, just not for YOU. Government work ONLY on the behalf of the Tycoons
Repeal stupid

When did Obama decide to gay marry? Michelle must be angry, but maybe his base in Utah grew?


Corruption favors the wealthy.

Russo's picture

(sorry, I removed this from the title)

Here's a report of the last person that mentioned something about my Obama sticker. Ahem:

The President's a n*****.

It's like the state lives in Blazing Saddles. They'll hate him gay or not, cause he's got the mark of Cain.

Kreskin's picture

Yessssirrreeeee , Pastor Huckleberry , theeeee authority on the thoughts and opinions of the black community . What a joke . Did he quit as a Pastor or get kicked out ?


"The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all."

bmw 528's picture

African Americans are offended just by the mere existence of the GOP and their old white boys pining to bring back the Antebellum South and people like Haley Barbour( aka Boss Hogg) who still think the South must have won the Civil War somehow.

Maybe that's why 95% of African Americans voted Democratic in 2008.


"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."

Robert F. Kennedy

Loonie's picture

Apart from that 1% ultra-rich narcissistic wank-blankets, I cannot fathom why anyone would vote GOP.

Paul the Sax Guy's picture

Because maybe they've bought into the bullshit that Gawd wants his people to be "prosperous," and that they think that the "American Dream" is not just possible for them but probable?

It's called being delusional.


In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose

Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com

ricky's picture

but later proven to be exaggerated quite a bit.

http://articles.sfgate.com/2009-01-07/bay-are...


"That's fu*#ing retarded."
Big City Mayor

Plantsmantx's picture

I don't think the majority of the black electorate opposes gay rights in general. Do the majority of us oppose gay marriage? I don't know...maybe. I do know one thing though- any opposition to gay marriage isn't going to "destroy" Obama or any other Democratic presidential candidate with the black electorate.

Huckabee doesn't have anywhere near as much insight into us as he thinks he does.

Loonie's picture

We could build a conduit to the Andromeda galaxy with that stretch.

JohnnyBravo's picture

Because if ANYBODY knows how black people think, it's Mike Fucking Huckabee!

Jesus, he's a complete moron!


NOBODY 2012

xargaw's picture

historically opposed gay rights and gay acceptance. That much is true. However, given the choice between Democrat that supports gay rights and any Republican, the Democrat wins hands down with the majority of the black community.

Paul the Sax Guy's picture

Conservative white churches have also historically opposed gay rights and gay acceptance. It's not a black or white thing, it's an education thing.


In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose

Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com

dadams's picture

any minority that is offended that gays should
be able to get married and/or enjoy the same
privileges as "straights", should look a little closer
at their own recent past when they did not have
the right to vote or sit at the same counters as
other haters have in the past.

this is not a country of civil rights for the privileged,
but for all citizens of the USA, though some have
thought they deserved more rights than those
they hold in disdain and contempt.

shame on all bigots and racists.

media critic's picture

He chickened out of running for president, don't waste cyber ink on him.

constituent's picture

hucklebee is just opportunistic. he won't run for president.

markpkessinger's picture

[snark]A southern, white, conservative evangelical: clearly the obvious authority concerning the opinions of the African American community![/snark]


Mark P. Kessinger
New York, New York

Captain Kangaroo's picture

Yup, this is what has taken Obama so long to make this decision. He was afraid he was going to lose the black vote because of it. I'm sure it keeps him up at night.

ron's picture

It was the DOJ that decided not to challenge it's constitutionality.

Tax the Rich's picture

Huckabee hinks he knows what he is talking about.

He has spent a lot of time wearing hoods; so he thinks that makes him an authority on the hood.


If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.

thebewilderness's picture

Every time the Huckster speaks the same Bible verse comes to mind.

You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

J²'s picture

who voted for Prop 8 in significant enough numbers to push it over the line. The original theory was proven incorrect by, I believe, Nate Silver, where his analysis showed that blacks voted in the same proportions as everyone else; it was the commercials NOM ran in the Central Valley and Orange County that convinced these women that, somehow, gay marriage would make their children go gay. Fear worked, again.

. . . damned if I can figure out who, though.

Terypat's picture

LOLOLOL That Huck is too much!

David Ehrenstein's picture

In his decaye brain gays are whie and blacks are straight. He's never heard of Bayard Rustin, James Bladwin, Billy Strayhorn, Langston Hughes. et. al.

mcnairbo's picture

Huckabee; "Hell, we'll take those homophobic black people in our party." The big tent of Hate is open to all with bile in their hearts.

Gert B Frobe's picture

Who really cares about this issue? You know it will be ok to marry whom ever you choose is a short while, this is just the way it will be, and that is a good thing. They have made great strides in the past 5 years. Just give it time and it will work out. Hukster is just blowing air and is an 1850's person in a 2011 body.

He commuted the prison sentence of Maurice Clemmons while Huck was Arkansas governor. Clemmons later when on to kill four police officers in WA state. Huck claimed it was the result of a series of failures in the criminal justice system in both Arkansas and Washington State.


Janek

While it's true that a lot of Black churches have been consistently against gay rights/marriage, their parishioners would have to be as stupid as Log Cabin Republicans to want to join a party that doesn't truly want them and would do nothing for them.

LockeNessMonster's picture

A majority of blacks and Hispanics do not favor equal rights for gays in general. Support for Prop 8 in California was on the same level of those who considered themselves Christians - in the 60%-70% range. The highest support was among blacks. In exit polls blacks and Hispanics repeatedly used religion as a basis for their vote. No doubt blacks and Hispanics were key in the measure as it only passed with 52%.
However, to say that blacks or Hispanics would no longer support the President over this one issue seems very far-fetched. Republicans vote against their interets and cast votes over guns, gays, religion, etc, but I don't see black Democrats staying home, much less voting Republican over this one issue.
So, really, it's more of a religious issue and not a race thing. And it would seem that if blacks and Hispanics were that focused on single social issues, the pro-choice Obama would have never been elected, no?


I've seen some stuff, man. And some thangs...

Paul the Sax Guy's picture

It's unfortunate that there are entirely too many single-issue voters.

Here in El Paso, we are a majority Latino town, and so many of the folks think like Democrats on a majority of issues... but vote Republican because of "teh Gay" and abortion... in LA, I remember the pastor of Angelus Temple getting flack for his stand on Prop. 8, but sticking to his guns.

I just wish these people, of whatever ethnicity, would realize that when they vote because of one issue, they're buying the whole package, so very much of which is against their better interests.


In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose

Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com

Paul the Sax Guy's picture

Oh, geez... here I am invoking Godwin...

It might help to remember a certain insane Austrian who had great hatred for "teh Gay" and abortion (at least for white folks), and took his hatred of such to a rather drastic degree... and the "single-issue, low-information voters" bought his whole package, also.

Just sayin'


In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose

Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com

LockeNessMonster's picture

I've yet to see an evenly remote mainstream Republican contender blame gays and even abortionists for this country's economic/foreign problems as that Austrian did, especially for the aftermath/depression of WWI. We've had preachers and a few wannabes invoke teh gay for disasters and the like, but I can't see any serious presidential candidate doing that. And here, it's Bible god being pissed off about the behavior of certain people which can be changed to a point with laws - with Hitler it was just certain people period dragging the country down and they had to be eliminated for the success of the Third Reich.
Support overall for gay rights has actually increased over the years, and in some states is by far supported by the majority. Republicans have to do some gay bashing and be "pro life" because of the religious right vote to be even remotely considered viable for the presidential nomination (McCain had to ditch any thoughts of Tom Ridge for VP). But they can only take that so far, because of, yes, as Godwin said there will be comparisons, and quickly, to that paper hanger from Austria.


I've seen some stuff, man. And some thangs...

Paul the Sax Guy's picture

Sorry, man, but I've seen a lot of propaganda spewers blaming exactly what you said... of course, Westboro is a small group with big mouths, but there are quite a few that have blamed the gays, and other minorities for just that thing.

I would hope that there remains a large enough presence of rational people to prevent things from regressing to that degree, and it does seem that, as the right wing does not seem to know or care when their behavior, "ideas" and "philosophies" go way, way over the top, but the well-deserved belly laugh along with the sharing of events and news in spite of the MSM and Fox, and as much activism as one's life responsibilities permit may help restore at least a livable level of sanity.


In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose

Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com

LockeNessMonster's picture

Sure, you get an Alan Keys, Pat Buchanan, or Gary Bauer. Those guys know they don't have a chance, but are just making their names for speeches and talk shows. Someone like Huckabee or Romney, or anyone that wants to have a serious chance at the nomination, cannot go there. (Not that either of those would have a chance due to variouls "baggage.") Even people like Dick Cheney, Laura Bush and McCain's daughter (Megan?) are pro gay rights. Again, no serious Repbulican candidate can go medieval on gays.
Just like happended with interracial marriage, those who are opposed will grow smaller in number with passing generations. There was a study that if 60+ year-olds determined gay marriage laws, no states would allow. If it were 30 and below, only 12 would NOT allow, and save Utah (go figure) all of those states were in teh south. Unfortunately, the former group actually shows up and votes more than the latter.


I've seen some stuff, man. And some thangs...

Paul the Sax Guy's picture

Any that are viable (are there any, really?) have learned to phrase their vitriol in softer, more acceptable under-the-radar code words, with a wink and a smile.


In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose

Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com

Tax the Rich's picture

I'm a single issue voter: Anyone with an "R" next to their name, I vote against.


If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.

Paul the Sax Guy's picture

These folks make me think that the "Conservabible" may just have added a bit to the Book of Revelation... guess they think when their savior comes back, that tat on his thigh'll go all the way down to his big toe...

"King of Kings, Lord of Lords, personal savior, right-wing Republican, wealthy preacher of prosperity... etc."


In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose

Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com

Nobodycouldhavepredicted's picture

"If a president begins to decide which pieces of the law he will choose to support or endorse or enforce, based on a lower court decision, ...that is an unusual precedent for a president to take." - Mike “I never met a convicted felon I didn’t like” Huckabee

Two words, Huck:

Signing. Statements.

Limp-Dick Blimpaugh's picture

Reslugs always get everything wrong. Dementia symptoms seem to run rampant in the ignorant, uneducated, Reslug-Teabagger party.

CFAmick's picture

We refer to this as "concern trolling."

AK23's picture

Well I'm black and I support gay rights 100% and so do most of my family members, who are also black. So Huckabee can go suck a rotten egg. If anything it's more of a generational difference than racial difference. Young people of mostly all races support gay rights moreso than older people of all races I'm assuming.

Oh and I love how Fuckabee and other right wingers try to throw black people in the mix for cover for their own idiotic ideas. Well, well... black people don't support "teh gays" so I don't have to either! Well, well... Obama doesn't support gay marriage so it's okay for me not to as well! Fuckabee doesn't give a shit about black people and what we think/feel or want, we are just being used in a lame talking point.

Paul the Sax Guy's picture

He's saying what he thinks he's gotta say to get the vote of the misinformed... kinda makes me wonder what kind of sermon this pandering fool preaches... I'll bet it's a hoot.


In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose

Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com

left of center's picture

not only does this guy pander from his his pulpit, he gets unlimited air time from FOX Noise to spew his crap. seperation of church and state my eye.

Paul the Sax Guy's picture

Attending one of his preaching services might be kinda fun, but I somehow think his congregation just might frown on this old fart in the back laughing uproariously... maybe they'd think it was something related to the Toronto Blessing

Of course, the t-shirt I'd be wearing has a great big pentacle on it; might just make them think the opposite... *grin*


In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose

Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com

Paul the Sax Guy's picture

Hey, I'm a Wiccan, but I tried to study deeply to know exactly from what I was walking away... and, I have the added "benefit" of having walked their path for about 10 years...


In the marketplace of ideas, too many people shop in the bargain basement.
-- Thunder BlueRose

Why, yes, I am a card-carrying member of the ACLU
http://saxman.bravepages.com

BaScOmBe's picture

becaue no black would qualify to give a black person's opinion, it must be obtained from this southern saltine.


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common sense matters as much as truth

jmmartin's picture

Really, now, what would this cracker evangelical know about blacks? Is he now a spokesperson for black people? What makes him think that African-Americans are not big enough to see that if one person is denied their rights, no one has them. Why does Gomer want you to believe the nation's first black president has lost his support among his own kind? You really have to wonder about hick losers like Shuckabee.


"Respect for the rights of others is peace." --Benito Juarez

jmmartin's picture

As the late William S. Burroughs was want to put it, with Gomer Shuckabee it's the same old rosary. With the prostitutes' union in San Francisco in the 70s, I say to Gomer, C.O.Y.O.T.E. Come Off Your Old Tired Ethics. Gomer is the front runner in theocratic circles. These people want to impose so-called Christian law on Americans so we don't have Shariah shoved down our throats: that is why Gomer misspeaks like a hissing boa constrictor when he accidentally on purpose lies and lies about Obama: that he was educated in Kenya, and so forth. Gomer is a snake oil salesman with an agenda. He once said he wants to get a law passed requiring interpretation of the United States Constitution "by Christian principles." Get out the stocks as a method of punishment in a new penal code making Church attendance on Sundays manditory. Only evangelical Christian churches allowed.


"Respect for the rights of others is peace." --Benito Juarez

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