Gingrich warns conservatives could form third party
"If the Republicans can't break out of being the right wing party of big government, then I think you would see a third party movement in 2012," Newt Gingrich said during a Wednesday speech in Missouri.
Speaking on Fox News Sunday, the former Speaker of the House expanded on why conservatives might turn away from the Republican Party. "Republicans need to understand that there's a country which did not like the big spending of the last administration, didn't like the interventionist policies of the last administration and the country at large would like to see a genuine alternative to the Obama strategy of basical trying to run the entire economy from the white house and basically trying to increase government, I think, by 36% this year, which is the largest single increase outside of war in American history," said Gingrich.
Gingrich indicated that he wouldn't participate in a third party movement. "No, look, I lived through watching Ross Perot run in 1992 and split the conservative movement in two," he said.
John Amato:
Yea, Newt wants nothing to do with a "third party," he's just making the case for one. Nice going Newt. Gingrich started a new party in 1994 with his Contract with America, that began to kick out all moderate Republicans using the Southern Strategy and now the entire Republican party is made up of conservatives just like him. Of course he was booted out of his own party very quickly. Since his ideals have failed so miserably now---he's saying they may need another party for conservatives to express themselves and be heard.
I love the the sweet smell of revisionism in the morning.
Let them form another breakout party and further marginalize themselves into utter irrelevance.
Please, go right on ahead. It can't happen fast enough.
But it will be fun to watch it happen.
THE THIRD REICH!
I know it's been used before, but by their brothers in arms so I'm sure they won't mind
THE THIRD BLECCH!
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
they could call themselves the Fortunists United Coalition and Keepers of UtterBullshit Party - their acronym will be FUCKUP which will fit them in every way possible.
So come on all you red necks and cast your Vote for the FUCKUP's!
Organization for Fuel Using Countries---OFUC.
"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."
Robert F. Kennedy
I don't think Newt's party will get much traction but if both parties keep going down these highly polarized paths, we may see a viable centralist movement start that may well kick both Dem's and Rep's to curb. Both sides of the isle are epically failing this nation right now.
Goodnight, Frau Blücher
Go for it!
My thoughts exactly.
I'm sure there are quite a few REAL conservatives that would love to rid their party of these fleas.
Here in Canada, the Conservative party was split into
three units and they've not fully reunited 12 years
after the fact.
Gingrich wants to form a third party mainly because
the GOP can't stomach him and his crackpot self-importance.
Let's see a third party but one without Gingrich.
There are enough disaffected GOP to go to a third party
and others to migrate to the Democrats, that anything
left would be a political rump.
Then where would the Christian right be then?
Anyone heard from the Christian right recently?
I'm doing the best that I can. Sheesh!
I really liked what you did with this video!
thank you for sharing!
Peace.
Rick Beagle
has discovered they've been duped and used by Bush & Cheney. Some woke up and started to think politically for themselves as a result, but I'm afraid most of them have only retreated to lick their wounds and wait for the next bunch of republican promises.
I'm hoping Gingrich does put himself in front of something in 2012 (other than a speeding train, that is). Many of those good Christians can't stomach him because of his personal life and if the GOP mainstream can't find an appealable leader, it could mean the end of the so-called Christian right.
Carter said of the "Christian Right": "They are not Christian & they are not right." Newt needs to crawl back under that rock with Tom Delay.
Maybe he's planning to run as a third party candidate in 2012. There's no way in hell he'll get nominated by the Reps.
Newt is issuing a veiled threat. Nominate me or you're on your own.
On your own.
SSDD.
i long for the days of a splinter off from the republican party much like the days of ross perrot
well in any event
conservatives say hello to your ralph nader in 2012
.... the Alpha Nader
I've talked to and know from years of personal experience people who support this guy and his thinking. For years I have quietly referred to them as my angry white friends and relatives with guns.
So why not name the new party now? I nominate: AWG. Angry Whites with Guns.
And yes, I was born and raised just outside of Pittsburgh. For all the reasons you might suspect, I'm sad today.
Talipublicans?
The God Party....
You can see how that would stroke their egos.
all the asshole conservatives need somebody to get behind. who better than somebody who was kicked out of congress for ethical violations. who better to lead this pack of assholes off into the sunset?
Why does the media feel so compelled to give even a nano second to the ideas of these disgraced former Congressmen?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/07...
Split up the party even more, then the votes will be 50% Dem, 30% Repug 20% Conservative. Democrats will run the country forever. Bring it on Newt.
is intended to be a factual statement
If Newt's mythical group split off and formed a "real" conservative party of smaller governement, you'd find 3 parties. The left, which would be the socially liberal, the right, which would be socially conservative, and neo-Republicans which would be for limited government. Some of the more moderate lefties would become part of this new party as well. I'm not sure what the final alignment would be, but I doubt it would be 50-30-20.
Go and form your
turdthird party---and why not just resurrect the American Whig party while you are at it? Those powdered wigs would look just boffo on you! Since you mental defectives are so buried in the past, the Whig party would represent your party as it is---a historical anachronism that has little relevance to the present.Good luck you arrogant toad---you sure are going to need it.
"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."
Robert F. Kennedy
... even a little attention might think twice before subscribing to Newt's 'we need a third party' nonsense, especially with him playing coy about a run for president.
I mean, really - we need a third party that adovcates Singapore's approach to drug abuse? What's next, canings?
And Newt has been out there advocating the kind of restrictions to freedom that you'd expect from fascist states - real fascist states, not this nonsense that has Jonah Goldberg wetting himself.
And the big question is, where does this new party stand on the question of race? With their lips firmly planted on Limbaugh's ass?
"...Singapore's approach to drug abuse?"
Newt may have a wee bit of a problem with his Oxy habit under those circumstances, no?
So what will the three parties be
Conservative, Conservative Lite and Conservative Stout?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
What about Foley and his 'page problem'. You forgot conservative pedophiles, OUKIES who sell klds for sex. Remember??? Nope down the memory hole.
"I think, by 36% this year, which is the largest single increase outside of war in American history,"
Umm Newt we still have something like 200,000 troops in the warzones right now. We are at War, and we have been at war since September 11, 2001. Why does Newt hate our troops so much? When will Newt apologize to all of our troops and their families?
I'm sure he deducted all the war fighting costs from his calculation..... unless he ran out of room on the toilet paper roll.
Yeah, he'll support the third party if he can't get a nod from the second party.
he made promises to wives too...
me-oww!
third wife, who's counting when your having a good time, eh Newt?
"That's fu*#ing retarded."
Big City Mayor
Please NEWT, oh please start your "new" party. You want instant and HONEST credibility? Just say you are the 21st century Contemporary version of the Dixiecrats of 1948.
You instantly get your conservative base, and the rabid Christianistas it brings with the base. You get the credibility that the "racists" will get the message from just the name of the party, and you will have a great chance to make a BIG impression in the south.
Now, what we don't want to publicize is that the Dixiecrats were the party of the Southern Democratic RACISTS. What you do want to publicize is that most of those racists that use to be Democrats 40 years ago are now Repugs, so they will love your message, as long as it contains provisions for people knowing their station in life.
GO, NEWT, GO Obama 2012
no wonder frum and brooks hate this jerk.
they kicked him out alright but did they
really think he'd just go away?
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"conservatives" my ass. that's one of there many challenges. they are NOT conservative. that's more
linguistic deception. BUSH proved that fact. BUSH/#109 congress greatly expanded the government. with BIG spending.
NOW they are "conservative". that's part of their strategy to focus on what is/may go wrong as far as the
obama budget/bailouts. BUSH/ house republicans/treasury handed this mess to obama knowing that the country would remember who was in charge when this unfolded. they will try to blame obama for spending. to me he will never be 100% at fault regardless. i don't think newt has a chance himself at the presidency.
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R E M E M B E R:
This man is on record lamenting that America has not been attacked…
… A G A I N!
If he were to have his way, another American city would have been attacked and more people killed just to make us scared and subservient to his desires to create a new FBI that he would give license to usurp our Constitutional Rights.
This man is no Patriot and is questionably, TREASONOUS.
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Starve the WAR Beast...
... Save the World.
Well, Newty-baby, you don't have to worry about that. The conservative movement has cut its own political throat by being so hateful to people. A big chunk of the religious right is abandoning you.
A RELIGIOUS RIGHT CRACK-UP?
So, Newty, where does that leave you and all your wives?
an ever merging global corporate system masquerading electronically and digitally as a nation called the United States.
A lemming who knows a shortcut!
LOL!
"Follow meeeeeeeeeeeeeee!"
"Someday somebody related to some of these sufferers, these victims, these collaterally damaged souls, may try to kill you. And I have to tell you, I think you’ll have it coming." - Christopher Cooper
It's just going to have some of the same mouthbreathers the Republican party has now. Oh yeah, that'll really have me running out to vote for their party! - NOT!
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
What's ironic here, is that Gingrich isn't a conservative.
Ron Paul is a conservative.
If Ron Paul isn't part of what Gingrich is talking about and wants to do, that outs Gingrich as not being a conservative.
The whole GOP isn't conservative. They "call" themselves conservative. Beware of false prophets. Limbaugh isn't a conservative, Hannity isn't, that is what is really ironic here.
love on American women.
"That's fu*#ing retarded."
Big City Mayor
False profits got our banks in trouble.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
It worked for Nixon, why shouldn't it work for him and his ilk as well? Newt is a historian after all. Why not stir the pot a bit, and then stir it just a bit more?
When if ever will the press finally expose these people as the truly anti-American, unpatriotic traitors they truly are?
laser rays and third parties.
shamwows and slap chops.
great ideas are everywhere with newt!
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You could call it the Whackaloon Party or maybe the Complete and Utter Failure Party.
Or the Rushthugliklan Party.
The Grinch Party. The Anti American Party.
The Supercalifrajilisticaintsbealladoeshus Party
Or, aka, The Don't party.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
Why is it so easy??
Is that because we are starting to stand up a bit more now...??
My oh My.. what was Bushieboy's lowest approval.. 23%?? Good, the New, New Newt party can have them..---
Thats Change I can believe in... Yes you can Newt.
The GOP is already distilled down to the John Birch/racist/Galt elements. Who would stay in the party? Snow? Specter? The third party would be 95% of the current mob.
This is where the Democrats missed the true meaning of Rush Limbaugh being chosen by CPAC as their star, headline speaker. The Dems made too narrow a claim about Limbaugh's central influence on the CONSERVATIVE movement by suggesting he was merely the leader of the Republican Party.
Rush Limbaugh is the leader of ALL conservatives, whether they choose to belong to the Republican Party or cut and run from the Republican Party's record of disaster and pluck some other label out of their asses.
A Rush Limbaugh/Newt Gingrich conservative by any other name is still a Rush Limbaugh/Newt Gingrich conservative hell-bent to wage and win their Reaganesque war against this government of, by and for the people of the United States of America at all costs.
Principle #2: Avoid strength, attack weakness. Strike where and when the enemy is most vulnerable.
Newt's appearance today proves that the Republicans have never been more vulnerable. They are not his friends, and wish him only ill. Any attempt from Obama to reach out to them in a spirit of bipartisanship will only come back to haunt him later.
Strike them now when they are down, Barack! Bury them!
Still whipping anything that he wants to, that li'l leather-lovin' monkey!
Even if it is only a temporary "emergency party"
...a party for disaffected Democrats and (should i say?) conservatives?
a party for people who are sick of the false left right paradigm that is foisted upon us.
...a party for people who, know the wars are bogus, and know weve been lied to, and who want consequences for those who torture.
a party for people who know that govt still listens to our phone calls, and represses demonstrators who dare to gather in the street.
a party that knows that the federal govt is growing beyond its constitutional boundaries.
a party of conservatives and liberals who know that big international banks and the giant "global corporations" that do bidness w/em have infiltrated our govt.
a party that is willing to put aside the left right thing for the sake of "We The People".
whoooooo hoooo... ....party!
(Gingrich is not invited)
audit-prosecute-incarcerate
If I live to to the ripe old age of 200 (I'm 50-something now), then I'd be honored to attend the wonderful party you describe. Until then, I'm stuck like a bug in a rug.
...I hope you dont end up bein' one of those 20 percenters who will be left still lovin' on Obama...
p.s. you are not stuck in a rug...(its a banker) ...with his foot on the back of your neck...and he's reaching in your pocket.
(he needs money for war)
audit-prosecute-incarcerate
what's in Obama's head or heart. He said, took, and did what he needed to do to get elected. Yes, that's all ugly but that's what it took to get there. It's a first step.
Now he is the President of the United States. What he does from now on is not up to you, me, or the bankers. It's up to him and what he decides to make of the opportunity.
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now. After all the term of a President is only 1,460 days.
The Family Values Party headed by Gingrich, Limbaugh, Vitter, Foley, and Craig
The Big Oil Party headed by Inhofe
The Wall Street Party headed by Santelli
The Dumb as a Doornail Party headed by Palin and Cantor
The Weepy Party headed by Boehner
The Combat Dodging Chickenhawk Party headed by....hell, 95% of the current Republican Party
The Swiftboat and Smear Party headed by Rove
The Klan Party headed by Dobbs, Duke and Limbaugh
The Drug Abuse Party headed by Cindy McCain, Limbaugh, and Haggard
The Toe Tappers Party headed by Craig
The Pedophile Party headed by Limbaugh and Foley
The Neocon Warmonger Party headed by Kristol, Krauthhammer, Wolfowitz and Cheney
The Abstinence Before Marriage Party headed by Palin
The Secessionist Party headed by Tod Palin
The Lies and Propaganda Party headed by Hannity, Limbaugh and O'Reilly
The Shrill Shill Hags Party headed by Coulter, Ingraham and Malkin
The Christofascist Party headed by Pat Robertson
The Multiple Divorces Party headed by Gingrich and Limbaugh
The Token Minority Party headed by Jindal and Steele
The Shooting Spree Party headed by a difference wingnut every other week.
Cool. Where do I sign?
far left loon >.<
...I learn a few million more people on...how to play the "follow the campain money game"
and the "Learn about your candidates voting record" game.
America could learn so much if we played these kind of games on TV instead of shit like "The price is right" and "wheel of fortune"
...maybe one fine day on "Jeopardy" Alex Trebec will be asking bonus questions like "Name 3 (of the five superbanks) ...who got taxpayer bailout money, who also contributed to Barak Obama's campain for president!!! ready? ...go!
...or ...John McCain broke his oath of congressional office when he voted for the patriot act, ...true or false?
audit-prosecute-incarcerate
Don't let Newtie lie his way into revising the impact of Ross Perot on the 1992 election.
Perot took as many votes away from Clinton as he did from Bush, right wing mythology to the contrary notwithstanding.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_Perot#1992_...
Indeed, Perot's primary effect in 1992 was to deny Clinton a superior popular majority that would have been a better platform to confront the emerging Newtie Republicans. Indeed, consider that no Perot in 1992 might have meant a politics in 1993 and 1994 sufficiently different to have averted the disaster that was the Contact With America and all that flowed from it. How about passing Hillary Care instead of demonizing it? How about undertaking welfare reform without the hammer of Republican congressional majorities. We might have even avoided 'don't ask-don't tell.'
And Newtie who was there for all of this - should not be allowed to turn attention from his contribution to the undermining of the Bush presidency by his opposition to 'No new taxes 'tax increases in the face of an exploding federal deficit in 1990.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Read_my_lips:_no...
Ah, Newtie is such a skank...
" I think, by 36% this year, which is the largest single increase outside of war in American history," said Gingrich."
I've got a news flash for you, Fat Head. WE ARE CURRENTLY IN TWO WARS! Just because none of your chickenhawk friends are involved in them, and just because your leader George W. Bush didn't officially register the war expenditures in the budget does not give you an excuse to forget it.
perot was nuts when he ran but he was an honest nuts.
as a long term nutmegger, i'm well familiar with the real ralph nader-like personality type. self serving, doesn't care a fig what happens to his "roots" party by his actions in the least. remember gore and florida? remember the last 8 years? only out for his own, he'll disown them in a second, run with them, against them, whatever it takes, just to win for his own narcissistic self.
perot? no. i've met perot. newt is no perot.
newt is the new rader....same as the old rader.
Split! Split! Split!
There isn't anything that could possibly be any better for this country than for Republicans to fragment into separate parties.
Of course the second best thing would be for Democrats to follow suit. Then we would have a real multi-party system and a coalition government. Now if only we could replace the office of president with a Prime Minister, we'd have a real democracy.
are they going to run on the "screw a bimbo while your wife dies from cancer" platform. that's a real winner.
I REALLY MEAN IT !!!
Newt, listen up. You do exactly that. You devise some way to break the repig party into smaller fractions and I will donate money to that cause. I will walk door to door in the most affluent neighborhoods of this country and spread your word that there is an alternative for people too greedy to pay their fair share of the tax burden. I'm sure we can get at least 2 out of every 10 repigs to fall for that (maybe more they are pretty stupid).
Then when all is said and done, the repig party will be small enough to drown in a bath tub. What a glorious day that will be!
and lastingly meaningful and effective "Contract with America"!!! I think it would be really great for the
republicans to split into a second or even a third party of "reform". That sure sounds good, doesn't it, REFORM, now that the republicans are saying it? That Newt is one silver-tongued devil, aint he?
I really hope they go forward with their grand scheme to reform. It all sounds so sincere. I'm sure it will bring huge numbers of voters back into their fold. They really should be pressed to advance their agenda especially when their ideas are so salient and they really have the attention of American voters.
If the conservatives split parties, I might pee my pants in glee.
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