I welcome our zombie overlords.

I do not fear them. As these zombies do not eat brains. I can sleep at nite knowing my skull is safe.

Whats worse, a party of inconsistencies, hypocrisies, and idiocies, or the sitting-officeholders in the chambers of power flipping the symbolic bird at their left and progressive base.

"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

Can't see anything in there that the Rethuglicans support, therefore, traitors all.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/qualia

sounds fairly platonic to me. now if they all looked like milla jovovich, that would be all right with me, or it that just too sexist?

but seriously, just imagine you are dealing with primitive tribesman immersed in a cargo cult, (there i go again, just not pc), and you have to have the proper totem to be heard, kind of like the survivor series, it is all symbolism and magic chants; this is life in america, just as in "brave new world" the savage doesn't have a chance, too civilized. orgy porgy, pudding and pie, and just like the controllers in huxley's novel, the people pulling the strings are not zombies, they think they know exactly what they are doing, problem is they don't, and they are driving this country to ruin.

a case can also be made that the party in power, by relying on levers of control rather than direct action is itself in a brainless state. bold moves such as direct federal employment of jobless people, or requiring enlistment in federal service, may not solve all the problems, but would send a powerful symbolic message, that primitive people such as americans can understand.

There's a Children of the David Corn joke somewhere in this thread. I just haven't figured it out yet.

But even with that clear signal, the White House continued to try to make compromises with their opponents. The Obama administration took single-payer off the table and offered little support for the public option when campaigning for the health care bill. The final bill -- which contained neither -- had almost no Republican support.

understanding this travesty, and other similar instances, would help those that wonder why so many progressives are chomping at the bit.

good thread David

I wonder if Harry Reid and Mitch McConnell share the same plastic surgeon.

would things look any different today? Most of the negotiating that Obama has been doing, on health care and just about everything else, has been among factions of his own party. The Republicans have been left to do their procedural blockage thing but the legislation generated has all been pretty much authored by the Democrats.

Does that mean they no longer have the right to live?

Or are you just speaking figuratively?

They are, to a person, sociopaths and psychopaths. You do not negotiate with sociopathic or psychopathic personalities. You isolate them from power and influence while miminimizing or eliminating all opportunities they might find to do harm to others or themselves. Nothing else works. No such deviant personality has ever been rehabilitated or reformed absent a life shattering/life changing event, and even then all claims of rehabilitation must be held in deepest suspicion.

The Republican Party made a conscious decision to turn whole-heartedly to the dark side when Nixon instituted his Southern Strategy, a conscious effort to cater to the most unworthy and ugliest of human drives and impulses, a knowing effort to make the GOP the natural home for people of such predilictions. From that time it has been inevitable that the day would arrive when all those with any remnant of moral integrity, principles, conscience or capacity reasoned altruism would be driven away or minimized. Those who are left, who are now in control, those who constitute the voting base, those who constitute the controlling base are not the kind of people who enter into any human relationship with good will. Or partnership. Or business relationship. They do not deal in good will. IT is foolish to expect they will ever do otherwise.

as clever as calling your opponents Zombies. Far more intellectually satisfying to outrage opponents with something wittier than Liberal Fascists.

Doesn't the presidential oath of office contain a clause about "\defending the constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic? If Obama had taken that oath seriously he would have had Bush, Cheney and all Republican members of the Senate and House taken into custody and charged under the RICO statutes. The Repuke-appointed members of the Supreme Court would also have been charged and the majority would also have been charged with high treason.

This may sound unreasonable, even radical to some. I would beg to differ. What is unreasonable and radical is to have any small oligarchic group changing the fundamental nature of the country without regard to the legal principles enshrined in the constitution. I would refer doubters especially to Article V, which details the requirements to make amendments to that document. All sorts of things have been done to change the other provisions, notably the ban against suspension of habeas corpus (article I, section 9) and serious infringements of the 1st and 4th amendments. No attempt has ever been made to obtain the consent of 2/3 of both houses or 2/3 of all the states. That, to my mind, is what is unreasonable and radical. For a decade the government has been a sham, conforming more to the behavior of an armed gang than any legitimate body of sober legislators, jurists and adminstrators.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03MGRRCMRvw