Cheney: Torture investigation 'offended the hell out of me'
By David Sunday Aug 30, 2009 9:00am
Former Vice President Dick Cheney told Fox News' Chris Wallace that politics are driving a decision to investigate the possible torture of detainees. "I think it's a terrible decision," he said. "It's clearly a political move. I mean, there's no other rationale for why they're doing this."
WALLACE: But when you say it's not going to stop there, you don't believe it's going to stop there, do you think this will become an investigation into the Bush lawyers who authorized the activity into the top policymakers who were involved in the decision to happen, an enhanced interrogation program?
CHENEY: Well, I have no idea whether it will or not, but it shouldn't.
The fact of the matter is the lawyers in the Justice Department who gave us those opinions had every right to give us the opinions they did. Now you get a new administration and they say, well, we didn't like those opinions, we're going to go investigate those lawyers and perhaps have them disbarred. I just think it's an outrageous precedent to set, to have this kind of, I think, intensely partisan, politicized look back at the prior administration.
I guess the other thing that offends the hell out of me, frankly, Chris, is we had a track record now of eight years of defending the nation against any further mass casualty attacks from Al Qaeda. The approach of the Obama administration should be to come to those people who were involved in that policy and say, how did you do it? What were the keys to keeping this country safe over that period of time?
A full transcript of Cheney's interview is available here.
John Amato:
Hey, Dick, torturing people offends the hell out of me but I'm not a sociopath. He must be worried that if a whistleblower surfaces, he could be facing a real legal problem. I'm also sick and tired of hearing that he kept us safe for eight years AFTER the attacks.
Cheney: Those interrogations were involved in the arrest of nearly all the Al Qaeda members that we were able to bring to justice. I think they were directly responsible for the fact that for eight years, we had no further mass casualty attacks against the United States.
It was good policy. It was properly carried out. It worked very, very well.
You see, 9/11 doesn't count. Cheney and his ilk make it sound as if America was being attacked every week and once he started torturing they all magically stopped. Why was the US safe from 1993-2001, without using torture or the Patriot act? And the Trade Center bombers were all caught, but using Cheney's method Bin Laden is still free.
Chris Wallace was such a nice little puppy dog interviewer that he even asked Cheney if thought Democrats were soft on terror.
Wallace: Republicans have made the charge before, do you think Democrats are soft on National Security?
CHENEY: I do, I've always had the view that in recent years anyway that they didn't have as strong of advocates on National Defense or National Security as they used to have, and I worry about that, I think that things have gotten so partisan that the sort of the pro defense hawkish wing of the Democratic party has faded and isn't as strong as it once was.
Nice job Chris, I'm sure Cheney has sent a very nice fruit basket to your house.
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I hope it offended the fuck out of you, because just the fact that you still walk free among the living here on Earth offends the hell out of me
Tell it to the 5,000 Mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers and children whose lives you took for your war of lies. Go to hell, you evil piece of shit.
That's US casualties. Estimates of Iraqi dead are somewhere north of 2,000,000.
But Halliburton
madestole a bundle ...I didn't mean to downplay in any way the innocent Iraqi casualties - still waiting for those flowers and chocolates. Hell's gonna burn twice as hot for this treasonous fuck.
and after they moved their offices offshore and bush jammed through (via reconciliation) his tax cuts...
YEEHAW!!!
Shame on you Cheney. The reality of what you have wrought is only now setting in.
You better repent. Have an Epiphany. Tape your mouth shut. Don't worry about your one percent doctrine. Be happy. Above all, don't make things worse than they already are by saying stuff on your own behalf at the detriment of national Security.
If you want into the national security loop then write President Obama a letter.
Don't go to the street corner and start sniping from the FOX theatre podium - that's what fcuk heads do Mr. Cheney. Stop making this political M. Cheney.
If you want to clear yourself then turn yourself in - from there it's between you and your lawyer. Don't fcuk up America to save your skin - besides you can't win anyway - it's futile so stop digging.
I second this !
Well said!
but he is squirming like a slimy slug about to fall into an aluminum pie tin full of salt.
Cheney knows he is but a hair's breadth away from prosecution. Just listen to how he characterizes this as 'clearly a political move,' as though by uttering this insupportable lie, he can diminish the reality that his comeuppance is staring him right in the face.
And, I have to agree with you, miss_kitty, that Cheney's continued freedom is one of the most offensive outcomes of the Bush criminal cabal.
where is there any evidence that he's a hair's breadth from prosecution or that his comeuppance is staring him in the face?
in the meantime, his army of wingnutters are causing a shortage of bullets...
talk is cheap, holder's threats notwithstanding
Did you not watch Cheney's mannerisms? Methinks Cheney doth protest way too much, sweetgreensnowpea. Why would he be working so hard to reframe the imminent investigations as 'clearly a political move'? He is right to be so scared, because once this ball is really rolling, anyone who tries to stop it will be mowed down like the disgusting insects they are.
sorry, i can't watch wallace, or Fox, or Cheney on any venue without, as the saying goes, "throwing up a bit in my mouth."
on fox, Cheney is preaching to his choir, no matter what you or i may observe in his mannerisms.
if the present administration had the political will, it seems they would have already prosecuted the war crimes that are so blatantly, GLARINGLY obvious to us...to punish those who lied to us for nearly a decade.
yet it seems that, as "Artist Formerly" noted below, there's a better chance that Spain would prosecute him - if he ever leaves the spiderhole or man- sized safe he's inhabiting now.
one can either view the glass half full or view the glass half empty...
I prefer to see it as highly likely that this new investigation will continue to coalesce the facts that irrefutably put Darth Cheney right at the apex of the illegal torturing. Whether or not he'll actually be executed for this crime is another story. We sheeple tend to weenie out when it comes to punishing the rich and powerful, at least until we get backed so far in a corner we break out in revolution.
Which is why, as an optimist, I see this entire scenario as a vital piece of the process we must go through in order to see the forest for the trees. I am confident we will progress beyond, but we must wallow a wee bit in the muck at the bottom of this abyss before we get a macro-level clue.
whether cheney is imprisoned or, in your words, "executed"
--
i would like
the truth.
about all of it.
n/t
I'm offended you're still breathing, you treasonous bastard.
by that piece of shit's very existence. What I wouldn't give to be his interrogator. Rest assured, I would be using very "harsh" methods.
You wouldn't need to! Darth is such a chickenshit bastard he'd be 'singing' whatever tune you'd like before you laid a finger on him or poured the first gallon of water down his gullet....
I'd do it because I have to? I'd do it no matter how much info the fat bitch would give up. I'd thank him for the info and then commence with the "harsh" techniques he loves so much. Hell, I'd even add a few extras for free 'cuz that's just the kind of guy I am.
www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/30/mccain-whac...
Next time Dick, connect your mendacious and sociopathic ass to the real world before shooting off the toxic waste you call a response. But I doubt if you will.
sigh
see, the problem with sociopaths and psychopaths is,
THEY HAVE NO CONSCIENCE AND FEEL NO SHAME.
they're very touchy and sensitive...
oh yes there is, u unconvicted war criminal, the RULE OF LAW. something you, as a Republican and a conservative, should be a real big champion of. instead you ignore it, trample on it, pee on it, whatever it is you do it. all u care about is being proved 'right'. you politicized the CIA and cherry-picked their intelligence and now you say that Obama is doing that? what a staggering a-hole. you accuse him of politicizing the Justice Dept, well, Dick, as Joe Klein wrote recently, you and Bush 'criminalized it'. u can shove it up your deferred ass. i hope a 6th or 7th heart attack finally gets you. no American should have any more use for your existence.
though he previously had cherry-picked their intelligence to further his means. and now he 'defends' them. sorry dick its so clearly self-serving. you outed Valerie Plame and now you CARE about the CIA? you only care insofar how you can get some defense yourself. well there isnt any you prick. you can amble but u cant hide. sneer away, fool, we'll get you my ugly.
. . . he would have read Cheney the relevant text from the Convention Against Torture signed by Ronald Reagan in 1988, and asked him to explain how, under the law, it is NOT possible for the president to prosecute American torturers.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1079/i...
and that he does highly admire St Reagan otherwise. he was clearly wrong on that law, Dickd say. and Chris for daring to ask that question I'll be needing your papers, and youll be soon taken to a renditioned undisclosed location.
Maybe he will never be prosecuted as a war criminal, but he will always be one.
Noticed Letterman hasn't stopped his Cheney torture skit.
I can think of one honorable way for you to avoid investigation and prosecution.
So...do the world a favor...
ME!
This amoral,greedy MF should be in a prison jumpsuit. My god people don't you see what is either a very evil or very insane person this is ?
It just adds one more instance of why I say republicanism is a mental illness!
Just the fact that this gratitutious, vulgar, crude, meglomaniacial Sociopath still walks free, offends the bloody hell out of me!!! Boy, you sure nailed it, republicanism is a very serious mental illness - Sociopathy is one of the most serious. Wayne Madsen says YOUR SCARED F**KER!!! We plan to aid and abet anyone who turns you in overseas, and marches you to the Hague!!
Twisted as usual from this character. Justice offends the hell out of you? Or scares the hell out you?
... by raffling off a chance to kick Cheney right in the balls.
Good idea!
for that chance!
Careful today its kick him in the balls tomorrow he'll end up looking like Mussolini and his wife at the end of their war.
Now, that I'd pay top dollar to see. Same as Mossolini. Good riddence.
...open season on Cheney with a $50 entry fee. Let him loose in a wilderness pen and groups of 10 get to go out and hunt the lying, murdering, thieving son of a bitch.
Instead of kicking Cheney in the balls, maybe we could raffle chances to waterboard him - didn't he say that it was just "sprinkling a little water"
Make him confess to being an egomaniacal dumbfuck - or maybe the winner gets to choose what he should confess to.
I made it through another sunday morning without listening to one talking asshat on the tee vee.
republicanism is a mental illness!
Wait a minute! How can the Dems be soft on anything. I thought Rush Limbaugh just declared Obama a NAZI. A soft Nazi? It boggles the mind.
Now here's a soft Nazi...
a thetan made an SP like you say that. Get clear my brother.
and always hope the poster did not have to pay good money to learn the lingo.
:D
Sorry. The thetans made me do it.
Google.
I was just copying you...
Google, unlike God, answers my questions.
Google never smote.
It even keeps track of whose naughty and nice.
Replacing our archetypal symbols one by one with a colorful shiny new "G"
Google Damn Cheney!
Rot in freeperville
you meant something else, you click that link and there's nothing there, but a note FROM google, saying they have no files matching the request google itself suggested you try. Is the the rock that is too heavy for google to lift?
No miss kitty, Google is a young God. And like all young Gods the mind of the omnipotent one is still being populated, developed, and will soon be able to answer all questions conceivable.
I think that's version 8.1.132.
Watch for it in January.
...just wait til you're in a prison cell, you son of a bitch.
Madoff has been in his cushy North Carolina prison a matter of weeks and already the rumors are circulating that he has terminal pancreatic cancer:
http://www.businessinsider.com/2009/1/is-bern...
I wouldn't be surprised if he's "dead" in a matter of months.
The same thing would happen to Cheney. He'd go to a cushy "prison" and "die".
Pfffttt!!!!
I'm so skeptical, I still don't believe Kenny Boy had a heart attack and died.
All these billionaire criminals have brought the ol' adage of "getting away with murder" to a new height.
yeah.
i suspect what us lowly peons haven't heard yet is that they've perfected the "brain transplant".
new bodies for old!
I don't think Kenny-Boy is dead either.
That Dick Chaney and his whole cadre of PNAC neocon White House war criminals are not languishing in prison cells in The Hague by now offends the hell out of me.
And the fact that any broadcasting organization, even a propaganda outlet like Fux Gnus, gives airtime to the ravings of this sociopathic blowhard offend the absolute living shite out of me.
Another "above the law", repug S.O.B.
These days, Americans have to migrate back to Europe to be free of these rightwing nutters, religious persecution by rightard preachers and gun whack-o's.
north of you there's a whole, big, beautiful country with more space and 1/10 the population! and it's relatively free of rightarded preachers and gun whack-os.
it's called Canada, eh?
................ of the toxic, evil, hypocrites that call themselves KKKristians. Jesús will say, 'I never knew you'.
the problem i have with christianity is...self-proclaimed christians...
take heart -
"when the rapture comes, i will depart the earth".
(a christianism circa the 1800's with no reference to it in the bible at all)
which means there'll be more room for the rest of us...
..............since I would call myself Buddhist, if indeed I had to name any affiliation, I won't be Raptured, please God!! So, it'll be us little non-believing pagens left to rule what's left after the trash is taken out.
Not surprising considering 'the bomb maker' was an ex Egyptian colonel who was a paid FBI informer insider in the plot, a FOIA action got the taped recordings of his conversations with his FBI handler, where he threatened to lose the built bomb if he didn't get his million dollar payoff. Strange the MSM/TV always fail to mention this angle of the first WTC attack, doesn't tie into the meme of nasty outsiders attacking America.
Google and listen to the tapes.
YOU and your administration tortured people. Fuck you.
So, let me understand this. The Justice department under shrub, when it found retro-actively that torture was OK, was an independent, objective, non-political entitiy, but under Obama it is his meat puppet.
Thanks for the clarification Dick.
From now on, I propose calling him "dick" not capitalized, to represent not only his name but his status.
protesting at the Rumsfelds at some fancy dinner/reception, DR and co just laughed at the suggestion they were war criminals, and to a point they were right, as long as they never get brought to book for their crimes, they are are whiter than white. American gov officials are almost immune to ICC action, Rumsfeld got rescued and flown out of France the other year by gov employees minutes ahead of the French police arresting him, nice even if you are ex gov and have gov friends to protect you from the law.
that big steaming pile,
Ddick placed in a large paper bag, then on the doorstep of the world community. Dimson lit the bag, one of the gang rang the door bell, and then they all scattered like cockroaches.And I mean no offence to cockroaches, creatures with more human feeling in the one tip of one roach's cerci, than this gang of über crims can rustle up among the lot.
so...who...the....fuck....cares...what...you...think....asshole!
Anyone notice the change in his favorite talking point?
not "we prevented further terrorist attacks" but "we prevented further mass casualty attacks since 911"
Was that in response to the fact they weren't to prevent anthrax attacks?
How bout the mass casualty attacks on our allies the Australians (in Bali) the Brits and the Spaniards? Did those attacks occur because those countries were not torturing?
Anthrax ref correct IMO.
so they werent giving up any intel
he is a lying bastard who needs to be in jail cell
I don't want to demean your job but you should lesve both the comment up and my response to show people how ignorant that person is.
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I guess I won't be the first here to say to dick, Fu*k You!
I mean what else is there to say?
When dick said he wouldn't be concerned if things were done to the detainees that went beyond what had been okayed by the justice dept., I about screamed.
it is not illegal.
When was water boarding made legal? They are talking about it as though it is no longer considered torture. Did I miss a memo?
Yo, Cheney. as I've said before, you offend me by not serving your country when you were supposed to.
Another thing, if everything is on the up and up and legal, why do you have to defend it?
If he's so tough and so offended why not be interviewed by someone who won't behave as his personal t-ball stand? Why not confront a critic face to face? Argh.
...what a great advantage it is to have your own network with which to spew your lies.
As long as faux news exists, we will always have the ignorant, ranting lunatics with us.
Oh, and fuck you Dick, you fucking traitor.
Evil neo-con extremist Cheney has absolutely no right to say anything, remember Bush, Cheney and the failed, corrupt, stupid Conservative Agenda brought America to the gates of economic, moral and Democratic ruin.
Dick'Head'Cheney is also to blame for 9-11 and the treasonous act of outing a highly decorated and extremely important spy, Valarie Plame. And among other things, unleashing one of the darkest, evil villains known in the last century, KKKarl 'Turd Blossom' Rove.
more damaging highlights of Cheney in video at link below...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/23/ed-s...
Just a quick throwaway quote from wikipedia, but the principle stands, politics is about systems, morality, ethics and how we live, treat ourselves and fellow peoples. Correcting a bad system is also politics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Politics
Having to watch the Spawn of Satan, Liz Cheney, on ABC This Week, offends the hell out of me and all sentient beings!
put the whole corrupt, ammoral clan behind bars
land"
hey dick...you fuck....where is that stated in the constitution that you trampled on
it aint there
guess what....holder aint fredo
oh and nice jab at the prez for taking a 2 week vacation
while your ex boss took 3 months during his first 7
Fox is the television organ of the GOP.
It has always been so.
You can't go around refering to whores as organs. Whores have rights too you know.
i think he protests too much.... very scared guy, who will see himself and his cronies, investigated at the very least.... even darth cheney is not above the law....
i know it wont happen, but it would be so great to see cheney, rummy, gonzales, and the rest doing a perp walk.....
What potential juror will not have heard this crap if ever Dick goes to trial. Not like I'm holding my breath on that one.
Well, give me some Dems... I do believe that the so-called 'terrorist' attacks happened during Darth's watch ....
and, after the Repugs had controlled Congress (and the purse strings for the military and security) since '94.
Seems to me that the Cheney/Bush administration was soft on security for the first 8 months and 11 days of their reign.
and people still find it inconceivable that this man might've known about(if not even helped orchestrate), 9/11, when it was the single event that enabled bushco to push through their entire agenda.
crazy conspiracy theorists!
Sweet, I think the BUSHCRIMEFAMILY got a little help from Mossad.
Gee, guess who is in Honduras supporting the coup??? BLOODYISRAEL!! Who is trying to smuggle arms into the Phillipines?? BLOODYISRAEL. Seems BLOODYISRAEL is also in the business of 'changing regimes' by economically destabilizing the economy of the target country, and they're competing with the USofBLOODYISRAEL for the highest country count.
do you really think that at the uppermost eschelons {sp?} of power it matters what religion or nationality you are?
bush kissed saudis and placated israelis.
is it really any different now?
the multi-nationals have figured out how to factory farm us for our $ like laying hens in small cages.
they pit us against each other in the name of God, or country, but
DOES IT MATTER WHAT RELIGION OR NATIONALITY THEY ARE?
in the '80's the adage was' "whoever has the most toys when they die, wins".
the stakes seem to've gotten hgher.
is it now, "whoever owns THE WORLD when they die, wins."?
..............I think you might have missed my point, which is that FACISM, whether US branded or BLOODYISRAEL now rules most of the so-called 'civilized' world, and this international cadre of thieves have indeed taken over the world as we know it, while preying on the tiny part not yet invaded, pillaged, sacked, emptied of all wealth. This FACIST faction is who 'believe' in the Rapture.
i see what you mean...but i think the multi-nationals are the facists who rule the world and use "religion" to keep the rest us at each others throats...(excellent business for an arms dealer!) and if jesus is going to come and save the "c"s, or there are 72 virgins waiting for you in heaven, no one has to care about global warming, or pollution!
i have a hard time believing cheney believes in "god", let alone the "rapture".
The most loathsome bottom feeding parasite has more integrity than Dick Cheney.
Hey Dick! you and your administration professed to be of the moral religious right, did you not?
Ever hear this one; “For what does it prosper a man to win the world if only to lose his soul?
Of course I guess, in your case, you have to have a soul in the first place before you can lose it . . . Most reprehensible person I have ever seen in my lifetime.
Such a shame individuals such as Cheney gravitate towards positions of power. We must be ever vigilant against fascism, tyranny, torture, and political terrorism. Cheney and his regipizan zombies could take hold again at any time. All they would have to do is cause some sort of ruckus, and blame it all on Democrats for abandoning Cheney's rush into hell.
Cheney is completely predictable of coarse. He is very high profile but in the end he is just a terrorist. His weapon of choice is politics and words. his words are just as terrifying to many as airplanes on a TV screen were.
Shame on Cheney. If he has legitimate concerns he can write the president a letter!
too late, heart. the banks, credit card co.s, insurance co.s, big pharma...
are you lucky enough that someone's claws aren't into you?
did my RELEVANT comment go?
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it might short out his pacemaker
It might protect us from the next attack from Neo-Conservatives.
we're not being attacked by Neo-Conservatives now?...there aren't right wing conservatives causing a shortage of bullets...
oh. okay. they haven't used any of the automatic weapons they tote to town hall meetings...yet...
i feel so much better...
Hope springs eternal.
Protect Us.
You can bet that "the cowardly dick" would rabbit as soon a things started to close in on him. We got a warrant for you old man, can't wait to serve it on you slime-ball.CEO citizens eyes open
if Cheney's torture program kept us safe for eight years, does that mean through Sept. 11, 2009?
well have a swine flu alert system and that's all you'll hear about when the Administration screws up.
Cheney is just a violent guy. Remember when he shot a guy in the face with a shot gun? Remember how Cheney accepted the guys public apology for embassasing Cheney and ruining his outing to slauter birds?
crap, did i miss something?
HAS THERE BEEN A TORTURE INVESTIGATION YET?
my head exploded months ago...
evil bastard!
Take a nice vacation in Spain. You know, where they actually have a warrant for you?
Just like i thought - only hours after the bush-cheney-political-terror alert went from yellow to orange following friday's release of damning reports on torture abuse, we were terrorised on TV by Cheney himself. His repigizan zombies will now raise their political-terror attacks as well.
The bush-cheney-political-terror alert is now at red. That is all...
"oh wouldn't it be loverly..."
hit the wrong button, and an obscure reference anyway...
"the rain in spain falls mainly on the plain..."
connects, via "dr. dolittle", to,
"all i want is a room somewhere, far away from the cold night air,
with one enormous chair..." and
"oh, wouldn't it be loverly".
sorry, too nuanced on too many levels
and i coudn't delete it...
This piece of feces is offended, does this TURD realize this is about the innocents that were tortured and not about this SCUMBAG.
This Anti American Socialized Capitalist is offended tough SH*T, we should defecate in brown paper bags and deliver them to his home, places he socializes at and where he works, stand on bridges and drop them on his car as he drives by. This is a low life SCUM BAG not deserving any thing other then COTEMPT
Cheney: Torture investigation 'offended the hell out of me'
Jeez, that's really tough shit, ain't it Dick?
I'm sure it was a ball of laughs for those we tortured.
There is no seat in Hell hot enough for this garbage.
...he fears the long arm of the law as it reaches out toward him.
May the bastard live long enough to drop dead of a heart attack in a prison cell.
That's too bad.
While he publically talks about CIA personnel, it's his own ass that's on the line.
Cheney should do jail time. The people he ordered to torture should sit next to him, all up and down the line.
His Halliburton money can buy a few smokes or cans of tuna while he sits in federal prison, and even that is more than what he deserves.
President Obama said he wouldn't prosecute me--he promised!! I'm a big geriatric baby, and I'm gonna have a big blubbery tantrum if they don't STOP IT RIGHT NOW! (Plus, I already investigated myself and it turns out I didn't do anything wrong. So there.)
... that Obama would hold a press conference and say, "Guess what, Dick? I LIED! You're indicted."
It will never happen, but I have to engage in fantasies, or I will go insane.
The title of this says it all. You needn't read more. If Cheney says something "offends the hell out of him" -- it is a good thing. No more explanation needed.
Cheney's constant appearances on TV actually gives me hope. Yes, at a low level, it annoys the hell out of me. But then I think: IF he is still going on, sending his goofy daughter out to shill for him ... he must be scared. Really scared. Not scared of people saying bad things about him, but fear of prison.
I am against the death penalty, but if there is a death penalty, Cheney should go. Why are Americans scared to death of Charlie Manson? He only killed a handful of people. Cheney? Thousands.
when he's trying to sell another lie on TV.
He's very predictable.
If he's not trying to sell a lie, he runs from the American public, if he has a lie to sell, he can't get enough of the media.
He's a 5 time draft dodging, twice convicted drunk driver, war profiteering criminal.
Cheney thinks he's the victim and he still thinks he is above the law because he was VP.
This POS needs to be taught a lesson in the rule of law.
there is nothing any of us can say to Cheney that he can HEAR. he is a SOCIOPATH. HE HAS A PATHOLOGICAL AVERSION TO GUILT, AND FRIENDS IN HIGH PLACES ( and, God knows, like LEIBERMAN, must know where f#@king bodies are buried which he can use to blackmail anyone who rises against him that he's gotten away with as much as he has).
i'm still waiting to see whose side Obama is on (all things given).
we should find out soon enough
Sadly it's becoming more evident everyday that O favors political expediancy instead of justice or the middle class. Change we can believe in, is becoming nothing more than a nice phrase.
So sad, on so many issues he has the support of the American people to move boldly, bushco, health care, yet he dithers and lets it slip away. I hope I'm wrong, but it's becoming more apparent that he's not the man we thought.
political expediancy? you mean ensuring your seat of power despite what the voice of the people cries out for, the "change" your constituency elected you for?
DGoA (dear god of all), i fear you are correct.
i need a pill.
but i don't have insurance for that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34wJt3pRY0w
Sadly it's becoming more evident everyday that O favors political expediency instead of justice or the middle class. Change we can believe in, is becoming nothing more than a nice phrase.
So sad, on so many issues he has the support of the American people to move boldly, bushco, health care, yet he dithers and lets it slip away. I hope I'm wrong, but it's becoming more apparent that he's not the man we thought.
That he (as well as bush, addington, yoo and so many others in bushco) still draws breath and hasn't been taken to the same gallows as Saddam is an insult to every American soldier and Iraqi who died for an illegal war.
It's an affront to the world, if he was in any country but the US, the US would be applying unbelievable pressure behind the scenes for him to be taken to The Hague for war crimes.
Saddam, Slobodan Milošević and Idi Amin were amateurs compared to bushco for war crimes and the senseless slaughter of civilians.
That he's not in prison.
WAR CRIMINAL
and one thing was very, very apparent.... Cheney is running scared. He was nervous, he was repeating the BS claim about keeping us safe for 8 years, and he was very, very nervous. His eyes were blinking very often (lying?) and he was doing his lawyerly best to make the case for EIT, but failed. Even Chris Wallace seemed disgusted with any justification for torture. Seems that Chris tried to give CHeney a fair shake, but with Fox, the slant is always the same.
Cheney is scared to death that he's gonna get implicated and indicted.
Repeat after me: ORANGE JUMPSUIT , HAGUE, WAR CRIMINAL, PRISON, COLD CELL, COLD FOOD.
Dick:
Bubba Muhammad has a position, just for you. Just before it happens, I want you to think of my words, to think of the children and mothers and fathers you destroyed with our military, all in the name of partisan political power.
As Bubba Muhammad bends you forward and ties you down, I want you to think of the concept of karma, and that what you cause...you get in return. When the pain begins I want you to think of all the suffering you have caused, the pain of hundreds of thousands of people ripped apart for your lousy, creepy, repressed agenda.
There is no amount of pain and suffering that will balance your karma from your malfeasance, but maybe in a thousand lifetimes of Bubbas...there might be.
Have a nice day.
Who'd a thunk. Cheney has standards? So he's just an asshole. A torturing, murderous one.
Cheney is to public opinion as Jeffrey Dahmer is to fine dining.
I wonder how he'd feel about an orange prison uniform and pink underwear?
"I mean, there's no other rationale for why they're doing this."
Finally, Cheney addressed the health care town hall protesters.
"I mean, there's no other rationale for why they're doing this."
Torture is evil and wrong you keep defending it because you know you broke the law. Well there are people who actually care about the law who know you broke it, too. They're motivated by the need for justice.
But you know what's truly politically motivated? Your sudden mock outrage disguising a very real fear of culpability.
Where's Bush throughout all this? His silence speaks volumes. Maybe because it was the VP who ordered the torture? Can't wait to finally see it fall in your lap, Dick.
I am not wondering if Cheney really means 'scares' the Hell out of him. After all, the issue of torture, is just one component of the eight year crime spree he and George conducted from the highest office of this country, using the vast resources that were at their disposal by virtue of that office. Maybe he is starting to see the growing crowd of people who have pitch forks and torches, looking for a pound of flesh for running our country straight into the sewer? Maybe it scares the Hell out of him because some of them are his 'own' people?
I'm not going to be able to sleep nights knowing that Dr. Evil's even more evil twin brother is "offended".
Tell ya what Dickie... I'm offended every time I see that sneering face of yours plastered all over my computer screen.
I'm offended every time you insult my intelligence by telling me that you kept me safe for eight years.
I'm offended every morning when I wake up and find out you're still around, using up oxygen.
Unfortunately, I don't get three hours of TV time every Sunday to tell people what I'm offended about like you do. And damned if I'm not offended by that too.
You're just an offensive sonofabitch Dick.
... it should put his sorry ass in the slammer for life. If you look up Piece of Shit in the dictionary... you'll find a pix of Cheney!
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