Cantor: GOP will be a check on Obama, Pelosi
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Fox News' Chris Wallace talked with Republican congressmen Eric Cantor and Mike Pence. Cantor is in line to take the number two position for Republicans in the House. Pence is set for the number three spot.
Pence stressed that after a major loss to Democrats in Tuesday's election, Republicans would rebuild their party based on social issues and fiscal conservatism.
"You build those conservative solutions, Chris, on the same time-honored principles of limited government, a belief in free markets, in the sanctity of life, the sanctity of marriage. There were three state referendums on marriage ... all three carried. The vitality of the conservative movement around the country is very real," said Pence.
Cantor told Wallace that Republicans would be counterweight against the power of the Democrats. Cantor said, "You will see a Republican party in Congress serving as a check and a balance against Mr. Obama's power and Speaker Pelosi's power."
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Hahahahahaha......what party do these two belong to??? Hahahahaha
LOL! Republicans with principles? What a strange beast!
"Limited government"? what a joke that is.
Oh yeah, they "limited government" alright, trebled its size and crippled it so that whatever its role was, it was reversed. As an example, FEMA was reversed into doing nothing when "Federal Emergencies" cropped up.
Look where the "free markets" principle" has gotten us...
Their "sanctity of life" means forcing women to give birth to unwanted foetuses, then casting off the newborns and accusing the mothers of leeching off welfare for the forced births.
And these base fucks are okay with divorces, there's their "sanctity of marriaqe".
What party? You mean what PLANET don't you?
These fuckers deserve to wander the desert for eternity after the damage they've done to this country, if not the planet!
homeland security.
there has been no bigger boondoggle in history.
...GO!!
...AND THE PATRIOT ACT...
PURE...
UNAMERICAN
UNADULTERATED...
CHENEY-ESQUE...
FASCIST...
BULLSHIT.
...is a lie.
there was someone ready to profit from said disaster with a corresponding republican to make it happen.
Just as the majority democrats were a check against the Bush administration.
they are both war parties. they are both "bail-out the rich" parties. They are both screw over the middle class parties. They are both undermine the Constitution parties. Both parties are puppets of the Military Industrial/Financial complex.
Correct again.
Chiiile boo!!
'Nuff said.
The abortion ban did not pass......the marriage ban will be overturned again, as usual. And as to that ban, it only passed through deceit and illegal politicking by churches. So take your "conservative movement" and shove it. "Sanctity of Life"? From the war mongers? "Marriage"? From the massive straight divorcers and/or closet cases? "Free markets and limited government"? From the people who've given us the last 8 years of disasterous rule? Please shut these people us for good.
then the media can go bankrupt and the repugs can lose even more seats
they dont even look like they believe the BS they are trying to sell. poor salesmanship all the way around.
its nice to see them roll out a fresh crop of tasty republican douchebags after the election. the flavor had gone out of the old ones. i personally would like them to bring out some good old flavors from the past. you know, like newt. or delay. guys who divorce their wives while undergoing cancer treatment or get convicted of felonies.
ah, the good old days.
"The state or quality of being sacred or holy; holiness; saintliness; moral purity; godliness."
The government has no business getting into the 'sanctity' of anything.
Why do these clown keep bringing this up?
desperation!
no.
it's diversion.
its this issue, and a couple of others, that gets the emotions of the masses all worked up, and they - the elites - can play on it.
In the meantime, the policymakers and the elites can outflank the masses on the issues that are important to THEM, and then come back at a later time and mop up on the so-called hot-button issues.
the elites don't give a ratsass about these tertiary issues - but the know that YOU do, and that if they can just placate you long enough, then they can do what they want without you being nonethewiser.
Correct. OBEY....it's a fear tactic.
for progressives. the 2006 and 2008 elections are proof of the success of fearmongering and diversion.
Because it gets them free votes from the fundamentalist segment of the population and has no negative impact on the one thing that the Republican party is truly devoted to...the unbridled accumulation of wealth.
... I agree with this wholeheartedly (from Bill Moyers last Friday:
ERIC FONER: We'll have to say. You know, neither it's a good point that neither candidate talked about freedom in this campaign. I think President Bush, in an odd sort of way, has devalued the concept of freedom by the cynical and militaristic way he has employed it.
Freedom meant invading another place and giving them freedom, whether they wanted our freedom or not. But I think Obama has a great opportunity to rekindle all other ideas of freedom which have existed in our history. Freedom as economic security, freedom as a sort of sense of dignity and empowerment for people who maybe have lacked that in the past, freedom as a collective sense of the society becoming freer, not just individuals
So, you know, I hope he does reclaim the idea of freedom. Since the Reagan revolution, freedom has been sort of dominated that idea by, you know, by the right wing. It means owning a gun, not paying taxes, demonizing government. But there are many other themes of freedom in our history, which I hope Obama can, you know, can pick up and utilize.
"You build those conservative solutions, Chris, on the same time-honored principles of limited government, a belief in free markets, in the sanctity of life, the sanctity of marriage."
Gee how refreshing:a belief in everything that has failed utterly and unequivocally.
then shut down the government and opened up the media to murdoch.
To funny men on there. The people that didn't keep check on one damn thing is going to keep an eye on Obama/Pelosi?
I laughed so hard my sides hurt.
These two shills for the idiot party, break me up. I mean where do these morons come from? Did you ever hear anything so lame in your life?
The dumb and Dumber of the retardlican party.
For god sake this is rich! hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!
republicans are good at always passing the check.
err,
they are only good at bouncing it.
they must be bipolar
Checks and balances, for Republicans, would mean blocking (or trying to block) every single thing that the Democratic representatives and senators try to pass. Then, after blocking using any tactic possible, the Republicans will point at congress and say, "See, the Democrats can't do anything. Elect Republicans and we'll get things done." In other words, it'll be just like that last two years.
it will be Obama.
all those two shits have to do is follow their real leader.
I love you for posting something positive about Obama - something I have seen too little here over the last two days. I am sick of all the speculative bullshit.
Post more often, sweetie...before I go and blow my fucking brains out.
I will double my efforts.
:<[)
That's my guy! Bless you, my dear.
"Cantor told Wallace that Republicans would be counterweight against the power of the Democrats"
Wouldn't it have been nice if they had used some of that counterweight against the power of a self-aggrandizing, lawless frat boy with a Napoleonic complex?
Now that the adults are moving in to BEGIN the royal clean-up, as caused by unchecked power while under their care, the Repugnicans are worried about too much power in too few hands.
These guys make me sick.
I predict that repugs will be so zealous in their checking, that the Democrats will get a veto proof majority in 2010.
2008 if the recounts are successful.
:<[)
that all 3 anti-abortion initiatives failed.
anything!
ever!
As "Truth B Told" said there are too many problems that are too difficult, if not impossible, to correct.
Some sort of check is necessary. Pelosi already acted as an ambassador (boing to Syria) without congressional approval or Presidential appointment.
a repug contingent did
are you saying that the speaker doesnt have a right to visit other countries on fact finding missions?
please, dont tell me that is what you are saying
I'm saying that the international representative function is not part of the assigned duties of the Speaker of the House.
You dont know what youre talking about.
obama wins and fox pulls out the repugs.
keep it up!
2010 will remove some more repugs from the house and senate.
just keep it up.
indicates a love of big, overreaching government, not one that's limited.
And speaking of the gay marriage bans that passed in Florida, Arizona and California.....
Keep the Mormons and the Catholic churches tied up on multiple fronts.
Sure, organize boycotts-not just of Utah, but also Florida and Arizona, where these same type initiatives passed last Tuesday.
Sure, try and strip these churches of their tax-exempt statuses.
But there's also another weapon that can be wielded here, namely class action lawsuits, at least from those gay married couples in California.
They should be filed against the churches, as the gay married couples have now, undoubtedly, been injured by the actions of these churches.
In fact, try and extend that class action status to all gay married couples no matter where they live, if they were actually married in California, as if that state isn't allowed to recognize formerly legal marriages, then those marriages are at risk in other states as well.
But also, take heart.
True, the homophobes won this round, but in the end, gay marriages will be recognized in every single locality straight marriages are. Which makes all those millions of dollars, and hours of efforts spent pushing Prop 8, and its offspring in Arizona and Florida, completely wasted.
that the public has overwhelmingly opposed discrimination against gays. the fact that marriage was the single wedge issue in Prop8 in Cal should be a reminder that all progress in the area of civil rights takes time. Arizona opposed the MLK holiday for 20 years, until the superbowl was denied them. additionally, all ethnic and religious groups voted majorities against gay marriage in Cal. and still the margin was close.
that legislation, since it is a targeted bias, can be overturned. I would strongly recommend that any church organization which promoted a use of government power to enforce its agenda be removed from exemption of taxation. they have violated the separation of church and state.
the ads said, "protect traditional marriage, protect our children, protect our freedom of religion"
prop 8 not passing wouldnt have affected those issues in the slightest
it was a fear based campaign...and fear won out
... it is HATE, plain and simple, because no one who was ever asked could name a single instant that the allegations apply.
...reading my email and listening to my phone conversations? is THAT what limited government is?
only if you are having phone sex.
...telling me I can't marry the man I love?
Cantor is now looking to check Obama and Dem. Congress while saying nothing for 8 years as Bush got a blank check to run the US into a recession. Cantor should be looking to repair the damage done by Bush/Cheney/Republicans and Sarah Palin first. This check stuff is showing how scared the GOP is of an Obama/Biden success.
...letting people like Cheney decide whom to torture, and letting Wall Street decide whom to cornhole, and letting Michele Bachmann decide whom to investigate, and letting Sarah Palin decide who thinks about America "the way you and I do"??
I want to know more about this "limited government."
quite clearly.
could they really be that stupid? Anybody??
Hm. guess so.
if not..they should be
and it will guarantee that the repugs stay in the minority until i am old and grey
they dont get it...and that is good
and I hope the media shill keep bringing these clowns forward.
i can always use another good laugh.
Hey, if they are ACTUALLY going to press for limited government and being fiscally conservative, that'd be great.
Problem being, of course, that if there's ANYTHING that the Republican party hasn't done in the last 8 years it's be fiscally conservative and limiting Federal government. Largest budget deficits in history and an expansion of central government intrusion into private life not seen since the McCarthy era, at least.
Fiscally conservative my ass. It only counts as fiscal conservatism, apparently, if it involves handouts to the ridiculously wealthy and people who build weapons, rather than the desperately poor.
Come to think of it, "sanctity of life" wouldn't be so bad, either, if it was also applied to people over the age of -6 months. You know, like all those people on death row or living in other countries that "pro-lifers" seem to have no trouble at all justifying killing.
Irony is that when it comes to social issues I probably am somewhat conservative, I'm just not insane, so I loathe these people and everything they stand for.
they are republicans, which means they are liars.
...quite clearly.
...of OTHER PEOPLE'S RELIGIONS.
Who can forget Pense in Iraq with McCain and Gramham, claiming that walking around the streets of Baghdad was like going to the State Fair in Indiana "....in the summertime." Canter and Pense are probably two of the most ignorant members of Congress. They are delusional and lost in the wilderness. At this point in time they have no power, so I guess the public will be in for more constant BS votes on points of order and adjornment called for by the minority.
shut the fuck up.
think of the 'infotainment' value.
C&L
Mediamatters
The Daily Show
The Colbert Report
Countdown
RachelMaddow
AirAmerica Radio
Mike Malloy
stephanie miller
randi rhodes
these shows need material, too. you trying to put them out of business? :<[)
i just go here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/heathr456
When they aren't in power.
Checks & balances on power have always been a conservative approach
When they aren't in power.
Fiscal responsibility has always been a conservative hallmark
When they aren't in power.
let's just keep them out of power... shall we?
really sick these guys are there for the money!
Just the money!
"fiscal conservatism"? From the party that's increased government spending EVERYTIME they've been in power? The party that cuts funding for infrastructure and social services WHILE they increase spending? Yeah right Ok there Pence buddy we really believe you this time.
Isn't Pence the idiot clown who went to the Baghdad market with McCain and said when he got back it was just like any Indiana outdoor market?
"limited government"??? "limited government"??? "limited government"??? "limited government"??? Is this asshat for real? This is one of the scum sucking asshole idiots who've doubled the size of the federal government in the past 6 years. All so they could infringe on Constitutionally guarenteed civil liberties!! While cutting funding for infrastructure and social programs!!
From the 11-9-8 NYT article, After the Imperial Presidency -
The assertion and expansion of presidential power is arguably the defining feature of the Bush years. Come January, the current administration will pass on to its successor a vast infrastructure for electronic surveillance, secret sites for detention and interrogation and a sheaf of legal opinions empowering the executive to do whatever he feels necessary to protect the country. The new administration will also be the beneficiary of Congress’s recent history of complacency, which amounts to a tacit acceptance of the Bush administration’s expansive views of executive authority. For that matter, thanks to the recent economic bailout, Bush’s successor will inherit control over much of the banking industry. “The next president will enter office as the most powerful president who has ever sat in the White House,” Jack Balkin, a constitutional law professor at Yale and an influential legal blogger, told me a few weeks ago.
Who here really believes that the Obama Administration will roll back the powers accumulated by the Bush Admin for the Executive Branch overall?
Case in point - Obama plans to use the Bush styled Executive Order to accomplish by Executive fiat - issues that should and rightfully so, originate in the House/Senate.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081109/ap_on_go_...
Republican party has been whittled down mostly to wingnuts. Some moderates have been voted out. The wingnut definition of bipartisanship is opposing the democrats at every opportunity.
I don't recall Republicans being all upset that there was a Republican President and begging for a check and balance on Bush in 2000 or 2002 or 2004 or 2006.......
Sorry boys but we ain't buying your "rebranded" party bullshit. But if it makes you feel good, go ahead and polish up your turd of a party---it's still a turd. The idea that rigid and authoritarian sleazebags like you would actually do something redemptive by adopting principled leadership and genuine fiscal conservatism is a laugh. You have no prior track record of doing either and don't insult us with your fatuous lies. We've had enough of them from your sorry, sleazy party of selfish fools to last a dozen lifetimes. Have fun being marginalized---a privilege you richly deserve.
This "spin" bullshit is just too much to take seriously. All the neocon/fascist losers are talking as though it was some "mandate for them"??? They are dillusional.
Maybe they'll believe it once 2010 comes and goes, and they lose EVEN MORE ground in Congress..and things start getting done to change the course of this f*cked up government.
Dillusional. Denial. Kool aid drinkers #1.
We are a nation of morons after all....and these are the leaders of the morons.
Say what you want, but eat shit and bark at the moon you idiots.
Notice how "fiscally conservative" Republicans always become when they are out of power? Cheney bragged about how "Reagan proved that deficits don't matter." That's the crowd the Right's been propping up these past eight years.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/09/60m...
I just don't understand how this myth of Republicans as being fiscally responsible persists.
Please remember when, for the next 4 years when you hear them say "tax and spend liberals" that they were the "borrow and spend 'conservatives.'"
The GOP will be hard press to spin the base banal regurgitation of talking points; that they seem to be pursing post election anyways.
The times are changing and double talk is such a Bush thing. The days of GOP base spin just doesn't work anymore.
The GOP will be extremely busy with the congressional investigations that have been ongoing and are coming to fruition. Their cries of witch hunts, vendetta's and the Fox News, GOP pundits drama that will ensue is predictable and frankly won't stand if laws are finally proven to have been broken.
This is just the beginning, next year comes the cleansing.
to say how much I DESPISE this Cantor fuck. He's young, ambitious, and likely, unfortunately, to be around for a long time. The new face of the Rethugs. Thanks, Virginia...
The role of the party out of power is to provide a check against the party in power.
It failed after 9/11 because Democrats were fearful of being labeled traitors by pondscum like Drudge, O'Reilly and Coulter.
Cantor and Pence should be mindful that there is a difference between checking Democratic power and being obstructionist.
Yes, I agree. I'm hoping it will change but I'm not banking on it :(
So how many times will the Republitards fillibuster in 2009?
These two talk like moderate Republicans, but do not believe them, they are all lying sacks of shit.
The Republican Party is putting on their masks to cover up all the festering sores that is the true face of Republicans.
I followed my parents advice well, I have never voted for a Republican and I never will.
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