Cantor admits Social Security and Medicare 'aren't going to be there' when he retires
It may just be wishful thinking.
House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) admitted Sunday that he didn't expect Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare to be around when he retires.
"What we [House Republicans] have said is this: We'll protect today's seniors and those nearing retirement, but for the rest of us, all of us, who are 54 and younger, I know the programs are not going to be there for me when I retire," Cantor told Fox News' Chris Wallace.
"They can't," he added.
House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-WI) unveiled last week the Republican plan to cut $6 trillion from federal spending over ten years, including deep cuts to entitlements. Medicaid alone would be cut by $760 billion.
"The Medicaid reductions are off the baseline," Cantor explained. "So what we're saying is allow states to have the flexibility to deal with their populations, their indigent populations and the health care needs the way they know how to deal with them."
"But you are giving them less money to do it," Wallace noted.
"In terms of the baseline, that is correct," Cantor admitted. "We believe that if you put in place the mechanisms that allow for personal choice as far as Medicare is concerned, as well as the programs in Medicaid, that we can actually get to a better resolve and do what most Americans are learning how to do, which is to do more with less."
A recent NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll found that 76 percent of Americans consider it unacceptable to cut Medicare, while 67 oppose cutting Medicaid, despite their deficit concerns.
Cantor also told NPR last week that it simply wasn't possible for America's most beloved entitlement programs to survive.
"We're going to have to come to grips with the fact that these programs cannot exist if we want America to be what we want America to be," he said.
"Eric Cantor's statement underscores that, now, [Republicans] are willing to turn on seniors by taking away the very bedrock of their financial and health security," Rep. Jan Schakowsky's (D-IL) said during at Thursday conference call.
"With all due respect, what the Congresswoman is saying is simply untrue -- Eric has made clear for months that he is committed to ensuring the long-term viability of these programs by addressing their solvency issues now," Cantor spokesman Brad Dayspring told Raw Story.
So, all those years working having a SS tax and Medicare tax taken out of my paycheck was for what? Will all us people who have paid into this and are 54 or younger get a refund? If I was told that my tax was going for nothing I could have saved it myself to prepare for my retirement and healthcare needs when I'm 70. Actually if they get there way there would be no retirement for the working class. We'll work until we die.
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No, gump. You get squat. Under Cantor's plan, you retire penniless and die on the street, unable to afford seeing a doctor for your shingles, which you will get because you can't afford to eat a healthy diet.
What is it going to take for red state Americans to figure out what's going to happen to them if the GOP stays in power.
Penniless, shingles, sounds intriguing.
Have you ever seen the movie Logan's Run or read the book? It's basically the Rethuglican's budget. When you reach 30 years old, to save on Earth's resources you're life is extinguished. But in Ryan's plan the age is 68 and the resources are Medicare.
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Either the Logan's run or the Solyent Green. That's Cantor's America.
This greedy SOB won't need Social Security or Medicare. Cantor's government pension, his corporate bribes and contributions put him with the wealthy elite brethren.
This is not my father's America
Oh, yeah, he'll be just fine.
He's already got to qualify for corporate benefits, since he already works for them.
There's a cartoon to that effect, where a congressman just owns that he puts his corporate donors first:
http://thedailyrawr.com/2011/03/19/too-honest...
("They paid good money for my campaign, and I wouldn't be much of a man if I didn't give them preferential treatment.")
Cantor is willing to cut the rug out from other people not as fortunate as he is. He will live comfortably, and to hell with everyone else.
cantor and the rest of the gop/teabaggers will
soon meet the new American-French revolution......
we will be eating cake from their kitchens.........
Cantor is supposed to be so "serious".
What is he talking about "getting a better resolve" from the states when we give them insufficient money to provide health care for old people.
He really is an SOB.
So we are going to cut Medicare and Medicaid and devastate the poor and the middle class and continue this fantasy of tax cuts to grow the economy and "fund" everything else. Additionally the United States of America will see a reduction in defense and discretionary spending down to 2% of GDP over the next 2 decades? The math doesn't work and the economics of it are a fairytale. Now we have Luntz selling the family budget analogy again the the Democrats are going to let them frame the argument yet once again. It makes me want to puke.
The Talibaptist Rushthuglicaons think government "is" the problem, get elected and prove it. Americans continue to vote against their own interests and give away the farm to the rich/corporations. The right wing "hates" the left and hate is a powerful motivator. Facts don't matter. I don't see this changing any time soon. I would advise the young college graduate to leave the country and go someplace with national healthcare and a government that works to actually help its citizenry. America has gone back in time to the Gilded Age and is turning its back on the middle class. Jay Gould would be proud... I'm embarrassed for my country.
This is just one of many reasons why the republicans must be defeated.
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
End the Wars.
Close the Bases.
Bring the Military home.
Begin a PeaceTime Economy.
.. problem solved.
[ .. and raise the taxes on the rich, collect taxes from corporations, raise Soc Sec ceiling ..]
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
Bringing the military home will created higher unemployment.
to police the world. It is in fact quite offensive to humanity. If you buy all the media and hollywood crap that we are altruistic I feel sorry for you. We are greedy, selfish, and devious to the core.
What does Cantor want America to be? It sure ain't what I want it to be, so who is this "we"?
he wants a caste system like in India.
a place where the economic predators can take everything from those who can't defend themselves. Of course Cantor would say something about liberty and freedom if asked.
euthanasia and assisted suicide then...
not all martyrs see divinity
its already happening......i know two people who ended it in the last 6 months.one medical,other financial.one gun,one pills.wait untill they total up this year.
....the fools do not realize,a population that can ,..... not paticipate .............in the 'economy'...,can not keep it viable!..........."we are listening,.......and we're not blind.,......this is your life....this is your time."
...the battle lines are clearly drawn.
What will it take for those in their 50s and 60s to recognize that Republicans are not speaking or acting on behalf of their interests...or the populace in general? How much clearer could the discussion be?
But your country doesn't know anything else but war. From the turn of the last century til now there's been one war or another for your army navy and airforce. read Smedley Butler's "war is a racket". The only way for your country to fund medicare and social security is with a nation wide VAT(sales tax). But someone has to have the courage to make the first move.
We've had a VAT in Canada since 1990. It was hated and cost a goverment it's time in power but it has made a difference inCanada(depends on who you talk to)
...slick-talking, mealymouthed sonofabitch. Cantor is beneath contempt.
Just 'Cos You Got the Power...THAT DON'T MEAN YOU GOT THE RIGHT!
...why would Cantor need Medicare or Social Security? Yes, he's paid into it which means that he should be able to collect...but realistically, how much of a difference would it be likely to make to him??? Not nearly as much of a difference as it would make to most people in this country.
Seriously...Cantor's been in office since 2001, which means that he's already qualified to collect a partial Congressional pension (since Congresscritters only have to serve five years in order to receive one) -- and since he's already halfway to being fully vested, he can expect to receive full pension upon his retirement if he manages to keep his seat for another ten years. Full pension would mean that every year after his retirement, he'd be entitled to receive up to 80% of the salary he was earning in the final year of service -- and if he managed to maintain his current position as House Majority Leader until the end of his tenure, that means he'd be receiving a pension of $154,720 each year after retirement (more if he were to retire as Speaker of the House) even if he never worked another day for the rest of his life. (Even if he doesn't manage to keep his seat that long, his political connections virtually guarantee that he'll never need to worry about where his next meal is coming from or how he'll meet the next mortgage payment.) Especially when you consider the fact that hardly anyone receives a pension anymore and that $154,000 is enough to keep someone comfortably placed in the top 6% in terms of national household income, Cantor has very little if any reason to be concerned for himself or his family even if Medicare and Social Security are no longer available upon his retirement -- and pretending that he does is an insult to the vast majority of Americans, most of whom will never even see half that much money.
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
who's the we in "what we want it to be". I think Cantor's we wouldn't resonate with many people.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
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....the fools do not realize,a population that can ,..... not paticipate .............in the 'economy'...,can not keep it viable!..........."we are listening,.......and we're not blind.,......this is your life....this is your time."
As I said last week. There would be no government shut down, and there wasn't. The Democrats and President Zero have sold you out again.
Now, there is a flood of emails asking for money to "save Planned Parenthood", save "the right to choose", save "Medicare".
Fuck 'em. SEND NOTHING. Stop all donations until these ass monkeys understand that they don't get donations for doing NOTHING.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
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How do you expect the Military Industrial Complex -- not to mention their associates in corporate America -- to make money if we stop sending troops into other countries (especially if those countries have or are associated with oil)? Surely you don't think that they went to the effort of developing all those new weapons technologies simply in order to sit back and watch them gather dust...
(/snark)
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
Whenever people like Cantor use the word "we" or "us', what they almost always mean is "I" and "me" -- because people like him are arrogant and egotistical enough to assume that their own opinions and actions are the benchmark for normalcy and morality, which (conveniently) means they're entitled to speak for everyone else since nobody who's normal and moral could possibly disagree with what they have to say.
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
How about Cantor, Boner, and these regressive republicans not being there when I retire???
we can hope that cantor is not there after the
next election.....getting caught in a scandal
of his own making......taking money from
special services is what a corporate whore is........
"learn to do more with less".............that would be an oxymoron.
BTW........f%#k you, you repug bastard.
'Talk to the hand'
Rest assured that if its not there he and his ilk will be responsible for it's demise with undoubtedly help from traitorous blue dogs and the rest of the spineless dems. who are all in the position of not needing such plebian foolishness which only serves to drain much needed wealth from the MIC!
The economy was raped by an immoral invasion put on the credit card and casinos masquerading as legitimate financial institutions. Government revenue is choked off because the middle class is hurting, the underclass has nothing, and the upper class and corporations still have the tax breaks. The killing of programs that have kept this country from sinking back into a feudal economy will send the economy into a death spiral, requiring even more austerity measures that reduce government to a security provider and protector of business interests. Finally the ultimate safety net, social security, will be gone. Because THAT'S WHAT WE WANT AMERICA TO BE? We return to the 19th century, and Cantor is just fine with that. AND THE PEOPLE OF HIS DISTRICT ARE OK WITH HIM BEING THEIR REPRESENTATIVE. We are watching the death of the country while most of the people are asleep.
is also piling on the Entitlement Reform bus. I guess he doesn't want to be late to the next stop.
He sold his soul to the corporate world long before he became a senator. He's a GOPer, for all intents and purposes. The man is just looking for excuses to sell us all down river, anything at all to please the plutocrats who own and operate him.
"and do what most Americans are learning how to do, which is to do more with less." Rep Cantor.
Prey tell Rep Cantor what are you doing to live with less.
2D
"We're going to have to come to grips with the fact that these programs cannot exist if we want America to be what we want America to be," he said.
MOST Americans do not want America to be what YOU want America to be, they want something else entirely, so STOP projecting your desires as ours. GO AWAY ALREADY!
The people he is including in his "we" are a minority, composed pretty much entirely by amoral sociopaths like Cantor, their enablers, plutocrats and those who are prostituting their offices on the plutocrats' behalf.
He is the worst kind of panderer and charlatan there is.
How stupid is that. I guess this is what happens when you lack morals and brains. ....
We??? Uhhh no just you and the corporate whores.
This is what old ppl think of your great plan.
http://files.myopera.com/TheOldMan1/albums/50...
Up Y&^%&!!
LuLu
to this sociopath's lies, distortions and misrepresentations?
If Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are not available, it will be only because the will for them to be there no longer existed, and the only reason the will would be absent is because we foolishly bought into the lies and manipulations of sociopaths and the irredeemably corrupt. These are wildly successful programs, not entitlements. Every time these pathological clowns go on the air, there should be equal time given by those who can speak the facts and the truth. Let the sociopaths have their say so they can utter their lies, but then let their lies be exposed for what they are. The media needs to be condemned for its failures if it allows these lies to stand or go unchallenged.
Maybe not in their present form but these programs will still be around , the American people will demand it . This is just Cantor and the Republicans utopian fantasy world , they are reeeeeeeeeeeeal slow but even the morons supporting these Republican sewer rats will turn on them once they start feeling the hits put on them by the Republicans . There is no loyalty like the loyalty to ones own welfare and pocket book .
"The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all."
...they have been STEALING the money from OUR social security fund, since the fk face, balless bushtocracy.Well now since this is 'OUR' COUNTRY with 'OUR' GOVERNMENT,I guess we'll either take the sht or eventually take...but I must say one thing first.When I attempt to speak to people about all things, 'occurring now' or 'since recently', in our America,-NO ONE GIVES A FLYING FK.I catch a bit of NPR call in talk shows,theVAST majority,of azzholes are quite okay with the airport rapes,from the TSA...COMPLACENCY KILLS,in any conditions.That is EXACTLY how the Germans accomplished their 'methods',upon the Jews.Those that thought they would be EXEMPT from the 'selection',BECAUSE OF THEIR MONEY,"while 'lesser' Jews were being gathered",were quite surprised when the 'bell began to toll' for them...LOOK PEOPLE, THE FKNG BELL IS RINGING RIGHT NOW-AND WE'RE ALL STANDING WITH OUR FINGERS IN OUR EARS...bla bla bla and bla...THESE FKS ARE CONSTANTLY SAYING TREASONOUS STATEMENTS OVER ANY MEDIA OF THEIR WHIM,---WHILE WE ARE AFRAID TO SAY 'ENOUGH OF THIS'...!---DO YOU STILL FEEL FREE NOW...?
"Blind faith, in anything, guides the mindless"-Le Mien,
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