A Message From The Mayan People

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November 10, 2009 CBS David Letterman



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Facinating stuff, handypants. I read Tarot, I'll have to study that link. The Mayans knew that the Earth will cross the galactic ctr., and that is the time we are in. Have also studied enough abt. the Maya to have very, very, very, great respect for what they knew, and what they did with what they knew. Would that so-called 'modern' man would catch up before we cross that fate point.

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The human sacrifice.

Oh, never mind.

That was the Aztecs. Not the same people at all.

Huh? Sol and Earth are located way out on one of the spiral arms, which is why we can see the galaxy as a band of light across the sky. And the whole deal is rotating around the galactic center.

If they were so good at predicting the future, why didn't they know the Spanish were coming to literally wipe them and their culture off the face of the Earth in a matter of a few years? Puh-leeeze... their calendar "predicts" nothing, it simply ends. Maybe they just ran out of room on the stone and said, "we'll worry about extending the calendar when the time comes."

The Mayans NEVER said the world was going to end. That's the same misinterpretative horseshit white people always indulge in. White culture is built on apocalyptic nonsense, so it sees disaster and world-ending in every other mythology it comes across whether it's there or not.

The Mayan literature says one particular ERA of the world will end. There are many eras, and the end of one is the beginning of another. That's an enormous difference from the silly OMG SKYS FALLLLLLINGG!!!! crap that the New Agers are convinced is around every corner. It's like saying there's no Earth anymore because we're no longer in the Cretaceous Age.

Grow up and do some research. Preferably something not written by David Icke.

In 3d space we are ALWAYS aligned with the galactic center. "crossing the galactic center" is like saying we're going to "cross the center of the sun" one day. It's meaningless, and shows a profound misunderstanding of how gravity, and our galaxy truly work...

This nOde last updated June 8th, 2003 and is permanently morphing...

June 8th, 2003. That's brilliant.

the most concentrated mass of pure woo ever assembled into a single web page. For the author's information the somebody who said "Consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds" wasn't Oscar Wilde but Emerson. I'm surprised his profound "research" did not lead him to spend three whole seconds googling that. He does succeed in one thing however, and that is proving that bullshit does, in fact, baffle brains.

We need a return visit by Tina Fey on SNL to illustrate this mind-boggling prediction from the Mayan people... :)

If her and mcsame had gotten into the whitehouse could you imagine how fucked up things would be today?
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness that is killing the world!

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And it's catching. Even the president has it.

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Funny on many levels

THNX!

Tulum it may concern:

the Republicans haven't found a way to blame this non-story (the Mayan never predicted the end of the world - just the end of a "long count" period) on Obama.

I'm waiting for that.

it's only a matter of time.

I have some wacked out, harcore fundie Xtian inlaws, and believe me, they are CERTAIN that Obama is a part of the 2012 end times.

Don't your fundie in-laws know that the Mayans were not Xtians--they were pagans, PAGANS I tell you, who worshiped Satan. They'd better be careful what they believe because Jesus is coming in 2013 to send them to Hell!

And people who are making money off of those fears are irresponsible. I don't see any reason to treat the upcoming 2012 'doomsday" as any different from any other "doomsday" in my lifetime or before. Of course I'll be happy to take any encumbering assets off the hands of those who wish to move into a cave...

Do you still have my stuff?

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According to them we've already cycled into a Golden Age Utopia:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9oq_IskRIg

Ain't it Great?

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They were just foolishly hoping. Not like us who have been foolishly Hoping.

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I've been hopping:

If the future can be predicted then free will is an illusion.
That's what the characters on Flash Forward are grappling with. If we know in advance that X must happen what's the point of trying to behave in a way so as to stop it from happening? Everything is already fixed by fate.

But people love that sort of stuff, don't they? Escaping freedom, as it were.

Both free will and determinism are illusions.

I'm free to choose to go to bed now or not, but what I choose is predetermined by my genes, my past environment and the present situation.

For the Mayan civilization, the world ended back around 1700 when they were subjugated by the Spanish. Guess the ol' calendar isn't as reliable as everyone seems to think.

The classic Mayan civillisation had already collapsed by the time the spanish arrived in the 1500. There was just a few remnants left to defeat.

The Mayans were long gone by the time Cortez arrived.

My calendar ends on December 31st. I just get a new calendar and don't whine about the world ending. All these people who still go by the Mayan calendar should just pick up a new calendar.

Not to rain on the parade of the conspiracy minded among us, but the only reason the Mayan calendar ends on Dec 21, 2012 is due to the exact same reason that western calendars end on Dec 31 every year. Dec 22 would be the start of a NEW Calendar, nothing more. I will see you all on Christmas 2012.

Clue me in. What are the conspiracy minded saying about the Mayan calendar? That Dick Cheney, in a past life, devised it to scare America into going to war with some country sitting on a proposed oil pipeline route?

We can avert disaster in 2012 by sacrificing more young warrior males. We're falling behind on that. The thirsty patriot god requires bloodbaths involving thousands, not just a few dozen here and there. Look at our zigurat steps and sacrificial ramp! A lot of that blood has dried, its only wet in places. Get on the ball, America and Britain. The world isn't looking to us for leadership for nothing!

Hmph, the Mayans. F*CK the Mayans. F any prophesy from any people who engaged in human sacrifice, the eager offering up of their children to vouchsafe the high quality of their own lives, the routine physical contests to-the-death, the piles upon piles of bleeding bodies. That sh*t makes them no smarter or better than us.

(CMA, I speak this "racism" as a mixed breed woman often asked whether I am "Indian," which tells me I'm not just a White Princess wannabe, but probably as Indian as my parents told me I am, since apparently, I look it.)

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That was the Aztecs. Not the same.

I don't know about that Mayan date in 2012. Yesterday, I was in downtown St. Louis, and I saw a very large SUV with all sorts of things written on it, including "READ THE BIBLE."

It also had a date for a "Day of Reckoning," which was some time early in 2011.

Then I saw an "End of the World" date, which also was in 2011....think it was May 11th.

I trust these evangelicals more than I do those Mayans from several thousand years ago!

LOL

Jesus has to hurry and come back before 2012 or there'll be no Earth to return to.

Did some digging on this...

Turns out the chief Mayan calendar maker was eaten by a jaguar on his lunch break and the rest of the shop figured they could take some time off since they made the calendars up through 2012...

They are planning on getting back to it once they work out a new vision statement and settle on the committee members to rework the names of the months to make them more PC.

That could be a very funny skit -- Mayan management sitting around in a meeting deciding on their new mission statement, sending out an assistant for chocolatl, the various department heads reporting on the volume of severed heads, etc.

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It be funnier if they got whacked on weed and tried to send out for pizzas and Twinkies which hadn't been invented yet.

Same with Doritos and Royal Crown cola.

Or if they drank the chocolatl and it gave them visions of the future and they tried to send out for those things, but someone reminds them that they haven't been invented yet.

I could see one person trying to get pizza, and the others chiming in one by one for the other items.

It reminds me of the Mad TV segment where all the black people are sitting around deciding what the newest popular slang would be for the white people to co-opt.

Y2K

It's irritating that Letterman makes fun of Y2K. If people hadn't raised the alarm to cause a lot of work to be done on computer systems before the calendar turned, it would have been very bad. But people accepted the warning and prepared properly, so nothing much happened.

No - the problem was that the media overhyped the event. No real computer folks were predicting disaster - unless they were consultants who would be paid a lot of money to 'fix' the code.

Letterman making fun of it is deserved because of the way our society reacted to a non-crisis.

Billions were spent around the world to do the fixes. Y2K was in fact the main thing that started the whole computer outsourcing industry, because there weren't enough programmers in America to deal with all the overhauling, so corporations turned to India and its wealth of young talent.

Farhad Manjoo has an excellent series going on right now over at Slate on this very subject. Go over and get educated, dude.

serious threat that might have existed was certain antique programs written in COBOL still being used in managing the power grid. They were easily fixed but default settings for most switching systems would have handled the problem anyway. What Wallrat said.

I agree with that but I don't think the only potential risk was to the power grid. It wasn't just "antique programs written in COBOL" there were also programs in Assembler and other languages that had date representations that couldn't handle things past the end of 1999, although COBOL was especially susceptible given the way they represent data structures. Also, in 1999 there were a LOT of "antique programs written in COBOL" and Assembler, for example the whole underlying infrastructure behind ATM's at that time was mostly written in COBOL and Assembler and had to be fixed for Y2K.

But every important system had default settings that would have prevented disaster. This is what engineers do. This is what I do.

they ran out of rock face to carve it on. Sheesh!

One particular ERA ends in 2012. The next one starts subsequent to that.

my friend.

The Mayans are actually sick and tired of having to explain to nervous honkies that there IS NO PREDICTION OF THE WORLD ENDING. There never has been. It's just the same old misinterpreting of other cultures' literature. Our culture is steeped in the whole Book of Revelations nonsense, so we think everyone else thinks the same way. THEY DON'T. It's a sickness endemic to our culture; most others actually see the world for what it is.

Poor Mayans are getting migraines from all the eye-rolling they do.

Mayans are still alive, they weren't all wipeout, just like native Americans. Still living even speak the language.

The prophesy of the 2012 is base on the alignment of the planet X that is supposedly swinging by our planet with its wide oval orbit around the sun. Causing a huge deadly electrical storm and earth gravitational friction with the near flyby.

Mathematically we have a missing planet in our solar system. So I think that's why we fantasize a missing planet.

Which is entreating for 2012 conspirator to explain why the pyramid walls were built so thick to withstand the gravitational friction of another planet close call with earth. Very Clever!

What I find really amusing is that people will scrutinize for being stupid in believing in the end of the world, and yet people have no problem in believing in a man name Jesus Christ as your Savior.

The Mayans have a written calendar, and plenty of evidence that they had a thriving govt and culture. All we have on Jesus Christ is the bible. Not to discredit him, but to point out how little we have of him compared to the 2012 prediction.

As once a great philosopher, singer, dancer, and actress Doris Day had to say was "Que Sera Sera"

All this from what looks like a very bad movie?

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