AMA Asks That Marijuana Be Removed From Schedule 1 Drug List
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November 11, 2009 CNN
The American Medical Assn. on Tuesday urged the federal government to reconsider its classification of marijuana as a dangerous drug with no accepted medical use, a significant shift that puts the prestigious group behind calls for more research.
The nation's largest physicians organization, with about 250,000 member doctors, the AMA has maintained since 1997 that marijuana should remain a Schedule I controlled substance, the most restrictive category, which also includes heroin and LSD.
In changing its policy, the group said its goal was to clear the way to conduct clinical research, develop cannabis-based medicines and devise alternative ways to deliver the drug.
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Why after all this time is the AMA requesting this? At a time that seems so pivotal in the health care reform debate, it would seem AMA would hold off on this request.
What is the real motive of AMA and its timing for this request?
I don't really think it's got anything to do with the HCR debate. I don't even see how it could remotely tie in, timing or not. I'm not arguing with you, perhaps I'm simply uninformed. I don't see where this would effect the outcome of the HCR debate at all really, one way or another.
Just have to know how the Just Say No crowd works. AMA supports the current health care bill. AMA is now trying to legalize marijuana. (I know the story doesn't say this, but this is how anti-reform groups spin things.) This is red meat to the kinds of groups seen recently protesting at Michele Bachmann's so-called "press conference".
I know that's not a very rational argument but I'm so sick of the left bending over backwards to respond to the lies and half truths put out by the right. At this point I think it should be obvious to anyone with a brain that the "just say no crowd" is nothing but liars and corporate scum bags. So why should we care what they are going to say?
... the last batch made you a tad paranoid ;-)
Sometimes doing the right thing, is just that: doing the right thing.
The majority of Americans want marijuana legalized.
Once it happens (and it will happen), the states will collect billions of dollars in taxes every year.
The drug companies want a piece of the action. Only they can't conduct drug trials, let alone begin manufacture, as long as marijuana is classified as Schedule 1.
with the first comment.
This is totally red meat and another divide and conquer wedge issue.
It may not work quite as well as it may have ... say only two years ago, but I also have to question the timing on this.
How long till Fox “news” claims that your tax dollars are going to go to some bum unemployed stoner by proxy of gubment healthcare?
Of course it wont work as well as teh gays gittin married but I don't doubt that this will be used as an atempted wedge very shortly.
the AMA is for HCR...
and the AMA is for marijuana reform/reclassification.....
SO....the AMA is a bunch of stoners that can't be trusted w/ their endorsements....
Why, you'd have to believe glenn beck to believe that B.S......
Sen James Webb has introduced a bill that establishes a commission to study how to reform the criminal justice system, and from the beginning has considered decriminalization of various "drugs" to be "on the table" for reform.
Recently Leahy introduced an amendment that would explicitly state that decriminalization would NOT be on the table for consideration.
Perhaps this announcement by the AMA is related.
Isn't that like batgirl or something? Maybe heroin should be on the list instead. And Trip I can agree with, but what about the other Palin kids?
Heroine is a class 1 drug, while I can go around the corner to any licensed sandwich shop and buy all the 'hero' sandwiches I want. This is clearly a DEA conspiracy to keep down the female crimefighter.
You can see what pot does to a person, just watch "reefer maddness", time for eveyone to grow up and get the real facts... number 1, no one has ever died from pot... can you say that about booze, cigs...horseback riding???...swimming??? riding a school bus??? thought so, CEO,citizens,eyes,open
ps warning: reefer maddness may induce amusement in the "reasoned thinker".
... I am sure there must have been someone who smoked some weed and did something stupid enough to invoke a Darwinian weeding out mechanism.
My, uhm, friends who by teh weed...yeah, my friends, that's it...buy by the bag, lid, ounce, gram. I guess there could possibly be dealers out there who sell laced brownies, but I'm having a hard time imagining my, uhm, friends being greeted by an apron-clad dealer. "Oh, hey, nice to see you. I've got a batch of Chocolate Walnut Northern Lights in the oven. Give me about fifteen minutes."
...while I was writing my reply. :D
and can't bring yourself to recognise it ;-)
I poked myself in the eye last night while i was going to sleep- really! I'm squinting a lot today. Now I see where the batch comment is!
Kind of funny, there is a "smoke shop" near downtown where they have a sign on the front door that says: "Dealers Welcome"
I need to take full advantage of this artificial black market for as long as I can!
go horseback riding, or swimming...
I could really use some Cheetos, candied orange slices and a Jolt cola.
Eh, huh, wah?...What was the topic????
adds nothing to the discussion.
For a good discussion on medical marijuana, Tom Ashbrook recently had both supporters and critics have a sensible discussion on the issue.
http://www.onpointradio.org/2009/10/marijuana...
No doubt that attitudes are changing, and its not only liberals pushing for medical marijuana. I've seen and heard conservatives say they have no problem with it.
Now excuse me while I hit this joint...
Sorry Dude...You're right.
I should have looked at it from a more serious and sober scientific point of view.
Time to reach for the Crayola's.
Regarding your whole "adding to the discussion" meme.
This from the great Bill Hicks:
"They lie about marijuana. Tell you pot-smoking makes you unmotivated. Lie! When you're high, you can do everything you normally do, just as well. You just realize that it's not worth the fucking effort. There is a difference."
Yep.
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I forgot what I was gonna type. This Bubba Kush is primo though
Marry-ju-wanna's baad, m'kaaay?
:0
Heroine or " a mythological or legendary woman having the qualities of a hero" is also illegal.
And I loved Linda Carter.
is a Republican....when I found that out...Wonder Woman died for me.
.................and I won't treat PUKIES. They can find someone to their own liking with their$$$$ F++k em.
"Heroine" is an illegal drug ..
lol
WE have been living with the isanity of the drug wars for far to long. It stands to reason though.
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness that is killing America!
Maybe GOP should be on that list with LSD.
I'm humbled. I thought I knew every and had done most of all known recreational drugs but I've never heard of "trip". Anyone know what this is?
Sarah's kid.
D'uh!
;)
you just lick him 'toad stlye' and ....trip balls
ubetcha
...is a very dangerous drug, second only to the worst of them all, "High". Only last week, I heard a kid in our neighborhood say he wanted to "go get some High", or at least that's what I think he said. When oh when will someone finally think about the children.
Which sounds to me pretty much like Ecstasy which is pretty safe.
according to Wikipiedia:
α-Ethyltryptamine (αET, AET; Monase), also known as etryptamine, is a psychoactive drug and member of the tryptamine chemical class. Originally believed to exert its effects predominantly via monoamine oxidase inhibition, it was investigated as an antidepressant by Upjohn Chemical Company under the name Monase, but was withdrawn from commercial use after a year due to the unacceptable occurrence of agranulocytosis. αET was abused as a designer drug in the 1980s, and was subsequently added to the United States Schedule I list of illegal substances in 1993.
αET is structurally and pharmacologically related to α-methyltryptamine (αMT), but its effects are slightly different. In contrast to αMT, αET is less stimulating and hallucinogenic, and its effects resemble more those of entactogens like MDMA ("Ecstasy"). Similarly to MDMA, αET has been demonstrated to be a serotonin, norepinephrine, and dopamine releasing agent in scientific research, with primary actions on the former neurotransmitter, as well as a serotonergic neurotoxin.[1] It also acts as a non-selective serotonin receptor agonist.
a video for you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFxCqXwBZ28
nothing like getting the tips from the old pro's
That was too funny. Thanks for posting.
Excuse me...it should be "AMA ax that.."
;)
All the kidding aside MJ has medicinal uses to beat the band.
Check this out:
Granny Storm Crow's Master List-
Just scroll down and see what you think.
for our for-profit prison system.
I believe it was the chemical industry that masterminded the original outlawing of cannabis so they could make great mountains of money. Maybe the prison industry will keep it illegal for the same reason.
petro-chem / synthetic products didn't want the competition.
because an acre of hemp (yes, I know they're not exactly the same)produces more pulp of higher quality that can be harvested once a year as opposed to a timber crop harvest once every ten years.
reasons behind the 1937 marijuana tax act. H.R. Hurst was one of the leading forces along with Dupont and some pharmaceutical companies, he was heavily invested in the timber market and it was cutting into his profits Dupont had just patented nylon and didn't want the competition either and well for the pharmaceutical companies same as now its too easy to grow yourself and cut them out altogether, also with the repeal of prohibition the bureau of narcotics didn't have anything to do so they taxed marijuana and didn't issue tax stamps for it, to have someone to sic them on, which at the time most marijuana users were mexicans and blacks which didn't raise the uproar among the whites at the time that the alcohol prohibition did.
catch?
First we make the teabaggers drink some herbal tea . . .
Once they have mellowed out. . .
fda
and the D.E.A. etc. all look rather stupid in my opinion.
OBVIOUSLY the active ingredient in marijuana, T.H.C., is a medically useful drug.
Marinol, whose active ingredient is T.H.C., was approved by the F.D.A. several years ago and has already been safely used by thousands of patients worldwide:
http://medicalmarijuana.procon.org/viewanswer...
The real problem, as I see it, is one of control and profit. The federal government would prefer to make patients buy a pharmaceutical than to ingest someone's homegrown herb that has been transformed into some tasty brownies etc.
The reason for vaporized or skin patch delivery of the T.H.C. is obvious when the reason for use is extreme nausea and vomiting due to chemotherapy or "wasting syndrome" from AIDS: When a person constantly vomits anything they put in their stomach it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to give them a "pill". Duh.
I arrived back in L.A. Sunday night and I'm looking forward to there being at least one of four state initiatives to legalize pot being on the California ballot next November. It would give me great pleasure to work on the campaign and to watch the big showdown happen between the state and the federal government when an initiative to legalize passes.
As to deaths attributed to pot, I recall one death many years ago. A guy had a bag of bud in his car and was being chased by the cops. He tried to eat it and choked to death. I think that's just about the only recorded death in history.
to somehow control the distribution of marijuana. they want to make expensive drugs that they can overcharge us for instead of lettin' people grow their own. i'm sure once the pharmaceuticals get ahold of marijuana & thc, they'll make a drug that has more side-effects than the disease it's being used to alleviate.
with the way the pharm's have to test for drugs, i would think it would wind up being a negative profit unless they can secure some sort of subsidy or security in the investment. i would think the only viable approach would be some patentable drug delivery system, but the thing is, i can make gumdrops, soda's, teas, brownies, herbalized dishes, suckers, etc for all over body goodness. what are they going to do? nasal sprays? nebulizers? patches? sublingual lozenges? eye drops? wow--those sound pretty cool...
marijuana, lsd, and psilocybin mushrooms are all non-addictive and should be moved down the schedule list, if not decriminalized, if not legalized.
on LSD?
It might be an improvement?
.
less paranoid?
it would most likely become a very bad, very violent trip.
I saw a reneck on lsd get real angry and start screaming..."why are the walls not breathing....why is the ceiling not melting!?..." he was really angry that it was "not working".....
Was that at a Pink Floyd concert?
I was frying to hard to remember anything but the pigs...
I'd love to see that. I'd pay good money for the entertainment.
In high school, one of my friends dropped some LSD in his mother's coffee and then left for school. I would have liked to have been a fly on the wall. (I know it's mean, but I often wonder how her day went. He was a bit out of control.)
I bet the liquor industry has an interest in the legality of MJ too.
that you can count on.
soaking mj in a bottle of liquor and let it sit for a month.
"hops"
rumors of moonshine made with mj, it supposedly is awesome.
................that even sounds good!!!!mmmmmmmmmmmm Tinture of MJ in white lightening!! Yum! Where can I git me some?
But what I was referring to was not precisely a tincture, they supposedly used mj instead of the cornmeal for the mash in the making of the shine.
And where to find it? I would suggest checking deep in the hills of Kentucky or Tennessee.
A puff or two of M helps to relieve my pain from a permanent, disabling injury.
It potentiates the prescription drugs I take and cuts down on my nerve pain.
And it helps me to sleep.
I suppose we'll need all the help we can get.
.............it is legitimately used for that, has always been a legitimate drug, and as a doctor, I recommend it to my patients, esp. those that 'can't relax', those with Hypertension, nausea, etc.
CNN should know that Cocaine is a Schedule 2 drug. It is used quite extensively for nasal surgeries etc.
Liquid cocaine is a typical staple in the lock boxes of most E.R.'s.
I Was going to make the same point. Cocaine is not a schedule I drug but rather a schedule II. It is counted at every shift change in every emergency room in this country along with the other locked drugs. The government thinks marijuana is more dangerous & more addictive than cocaine? The other point that irritated me was the assertion that marijuana is "physically" addictive which is completely false.
I had a nasel injury, and would like to hallucinate with you how I'd make a liquid from it?? I suppose you could add glycerine? It bled and bled, and bled! What do you think?
liquid cocaine? Considering it is highly soluble in water, my guess would be adding it to a sterile saline solution for pharmaceutical purposes.
And hallucinate? I assume you are talking about something other than coke.
Heroin (not "heroine") should be decriminalized too.
US govt buys heroin from Afghanistan and provides it to cerified heroin addicts.
I know .. it's too simple a solution .. and cuts out too many middlemen .. and would lead to the end of the "War On Drugs" and all the profits from that boondoggle .. BUT .. it could help lead to peace in Afghanistan .. and a healthier population ..
And no, I've never used it and never will .. but I've seen the devastation on the street .. and know how many have died and suffered in the unnecessary and stupid and costly "War On Drugs" ..
could have won nine gold medals in Beijing instead of just eight!
Freaking slacker!
;')
that joint my friend...
Maybe the medical establishment is coming back to life. It sold its soul to the "anti-socialized medicine" crusade in the red-baiting '40s and '50s. Things must have gotten very messy from their point of view to have changed so much. Remember, the group of "doctors for single-payer" is actually a larger number of doctors than these older men and women.
I can't but accept this, joyfully. But CNN, by the way, misspelled heroin. There's no "e" on the end. That's a female hero. Heroin is the drug. And the reporter uses the word "addictable" when she means "addictive."
The policy positions she ascribes to the "federal government" have been the policy for years. But with the AMA turning into wild socialists and drug addicts, could the tide be changing here, too? : )
If marijuana, cocaine and heroin become less circumscribed, there's no doubt that marijuana will be legalized, and the jails will lose a large number of prisoners, saving money there, too. And most other drugs would respond better to a medical approach, not a penal approach.
Or, we can continue to have a culture where bimbos repeat nonsense on screen, and stupid old laws just lie around cursing us for years. "Marijuana can't be any good, because that's what Nixon said. Dirty old hippies use it. It must be the devil's sacrament."
The Hearst people wanted the drug made illegal to prevent hemp from becoming a product competitive to traditional paper. Compared to today, congressmen were VERY cheap in the early Twentieth Century. The anti-Mexican people were right there, as well. Fuck those assholes. Spark it up.
For some reason I feel like some Funyons and watching cartoons.
or the Marx Bros.
And pizza!
Little Rascals and The Beverly Hillbillies are awfully fun for the enhanced viewer, too.
I prefer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIdF_VXTCwc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8Ca_edg6RE
...not one more Funyon would be sold.
legalizing or reducing the schedule 1 status of marijuana
would have a profound effect on the US. all for the good.
we could actually end up emptying our prisons of all the people jailed for marijuana offenses.
we finally may be able to stop the revolving door of so called criminals who can't currently get jobs.
legalizing marijuana would finally end the double standard of people trying to get a job.
as it is now--you can be a full blown drunk and get a job--but any trace of marijuana makes you not hireable.
its time to end this hypocrisy.
Agreed. Further, a criminal record bars you from entering many countries, or getting a visa, because you lit up and got caught.
Many Canadians cannot enter the USA solely for this reason.
Is there any evidence celine dione toked?
I'll get on that fer ya. We are sorry she has inflicted herself on you. I'll check on Jim Carey too. Bob, that guy annoys me.
I liked him in The Duck Factory, Once Bitten, Earth Girls Are Easy, The Mask and The Truman Show
And everything he did on Living Color except Fire Marshall Bill.
But I swear he's trying to single-handedly ruin Christmas for everyone.
in the US able to access cocaine as a topical anesthetic?
is a cocaine derivative, but I don't think very many dentists use cocaine. Legally, that is.
amphetamines are still legal via prescription in most of the rest of the world besides the US.
It's a conspiracy from the Dolly Madison corporation.
The senior medical correspondent needs some English lessons.
more easier = easier
addictable = addictive
No, "journalists" just don't care anymore.
[edit-- I missed "heroine", which further proves my point.]
"johnny appleseed movement" (the jam)
which would be all about weed state proliferation (wsp)
just spread mj and hemp seeds wherever you are so that other settlers will have a stable supply for making cloth, medicine, and wine
and no, this is not associated with the 4/20 movement. they have their day, but this is much greater, it is about kush country.
so put your pot on your head for a hat, strap on a big bag of seeds, and toss toss toss. cover those hillsides, cover your neighbor's lawn, is there an empty lot in your brownstone neighborhood??? well, that is now your community garden. go man go! if the big fist comes down, just remember it will grow back.
Plant it everywhere. That'll help keep pharm's hands off it.
I may or may not have done such things in the past. I can't remember.
is not an honorable organization. DO NOT trust them on this. They're scamming someone. All the medical evidence for over 80 yrs hasn't changed, just the politics and the criminal behavior of some legislators.
Marijuana has "always" been a medical plant that happened to have pleasant side effects, unlike most artificially produced drugs.
for much of my adult life (mostly crystalline stimulants), I can unequivocally say that pot, even the most potent of cultivars, does NOT belong in the same league as speed, coke, or even alcohol.
I've been in FAR more trouble with everything BUT weed. Sadly, probation keeps me from indulging in that that grows by God's graces.
Fuck the pols who do this classification!
and I just had a wee bowl to take the aches and pains away. The good herb works. No oxycotin and stuff needed in this home. Let's hope this leads to sanity for all.
a degree?
This ought to go good with weed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx23F5mjlC0&fe...
reading the bible
Legalise MDMA! ... well might want to get an expert opinion but it's supposed to be really good for treating PTSD ... :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjvNCijeYlI
are needed, not these dea sponsored scare stories to trump up their justification for its criminalization. swiss cheese brain--give me a break. if it helps the troops with ptsd, let's get the studies done; holy rollers on a drug crusade be damned.
At least in Colorado. It's about time and if you can do it in your state you should join your states medical marijuana registry. Read a bit more here http://oakcreekforum.blogspot.com/2009/11/its...
Virtually a random correlation to danger. Could pretty much have been a monkey throwing darts. But many of us have known that for decades, right? Two of the most harmful drugs, alcohol and tobacco, are even legal and compete with marijuana so I wouldn't expect the government to get right on changing any of these classifications. And the war on drugs is a big-money militarized industry same as the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan so nobody riding that cash cow will want to be put out of work if their lobbyists have anything to say about it.
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