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Republican presidential candidate Rick Perry suggested Wednesday that global warming is a hoax perpetrated by scientists who are motivated by cash.

"There are a substantial number of scientists who have manipulated data so that they will have dollars rolling into their projects," the Texas governor told a group of supporters at the "Politics and Eggs" Breakfast in Bedford, New Hampshire.

"I think we are seeing it almost weekly or even daily, scientists who are coming forward and questioning the original idea that manmade global warming is what is causing the climate to change," Perry added. "Yes, our climate has changed. They been changing for ever since the Earth was formed."

"But I do not buy into a group of scientists, who have been, in some cases, found to be manipulating this information. And the cost to the country and to the world of implementing these anti-carbon programs is in the billions if not trillions of dollars at the end of the day. And I don't think, from my perspective, that I want America to be engaged in spending that much money on still a scientific theory that has not been proven, and from my perspective, is more and more being put into question."

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Ugmo's picture

The American people can't be gullible enough to accept a sub standard D+ student's intellect over scientific scrutiny or inquiry unless the American intellectual standard has devolved to the acceptance of the "g.w.bush" educational insouciance...

Ape-Man's picture

Parry may lie because he's stupid. He may lie because he's ignorant. He may lie because he's gullible, but i think he lies because he gets paid big money to lie from special interests.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

Ugmo's picture

Like most mealy mouth politicians he hopes you "don't" vote...

Canismajoris's picture

pure and simple. Oil companies are paying him to outright lie. Who would pay scientists to say there's global warming caused by humans burning fossil fuels? The big solar panel/ windmill lobby?

belljm0's picture

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From the land of 10,000 lakes

Mugsy's picture

Best video out there debunking the hysteria over those "Climate Change data manipulation emails" Perry is referring to.


* There are two types of Republicans: millionaires and suckers.
"Mugsy's Rap Sheet": Recording history for those who seek to rewrite it.

BobD's picture

Great, a denier in the WH.

A secessionist, polluter apologist, whack job.

So he said that the world's climate has been changing since it was formed. I have two follow up questions to that statement.

1: when was the world formed Billions of years ago, or thousands?

2: by changing do you mean that you believe that the world is EVOLVING?

metman's picture

Sorry, not the same kind of evolving. The kind of evolution you are trying to equate it to requires selective pressure. The 'evolution' of the earth is a non-selective process.

Bill Lumbergh's picture

You must be a blast at parties....

Ugmo's picture

Scientist study in the pursuit of knowledge not riches...Unlike politicians who study in the pursuit of riches NOT knowledge...
You be the judge...

John F A's picture

Using their massive BRAINS to confuse and mislead us. Math and Science, and FRENCH too were just made up to make regg'ler guys like us feel infeerier.

Ugmo's picture

gOd hates:
Math and Science!
It goes against the agenda of faith...

Truthseeker's picture

In the meantime, the great state of Texas burns under the worst drought and heat wave in its recorded history! YEEEEE-HAWWWW!!!!!

Trantorian's picture

Texas doesn't record history, they make it up and write it.


"Someday somebody related to some of these sufferers, these victims, these collaterally damaged souls, may try to kill you. And I have to tell you, I think you’ll have it coming." - Christopher Cooper

LibertyLover's picture

Rick Perry couldn't be motivated by cash to say this, could he? (in the form of Campaign contributions from Big oil, perhaps?)


Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.

Cthulhu's picture

If the facts won't fit, make shit up!


"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing." -- Robert E. Howard

ALFO's picture

Hypocrite,polluter,stimulus money taker,liar,pay to play,corrupt to the bone corporatist,S.S. & Medicare killer,Bigoted Racist,Confederate resurrecting states rights,FAKE CHRISTIAN.

jimspice's picture

Perry: ...ever since the Earth was formed.

Reporter: Just a quick follow up Gov. Perry. In round numbers, would you place that date closer to 4,000 or 4 billion years ago?

jimspice's picture

Note to self: Must read comments before posting.

Tom Servo's picture

If so, he must think evolutiion is a hoax, and all the recovered dinosaur fossils are fakes

yakfitguy's picture

He's a Christian Dominionist. Much worse. Look it up.


I don't believe in God. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life.
-Andrew Carnegie

Artist formerly known as gempei's picture

that a dumber than a box of rocks politician spouting off even dumber opinions, and getting attention and support for it, is not really news.

Christine 'I'm a Witch' O'Donnell on Piers Morgan tonight.

No, I'm not kidding.

Edit-- apparently she walked out when asked a question about gay marriage and michelle bachmann. Might not be so dull after all...


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

CafeenMan's picture

So here we have a guy who doesn't understand even the most basic science - third grade stuff, had something like a 1.8 GPA who thinks he understands climate science? That's par for the course for tea-baggers who think a cold day disproves global warming.

Ape-Man's picture

Parry understands what they pay him to understand. A dirty rotten scoundrel. You can tell just by watching him in action for one minute.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

Ape-Man's picture

Scientific societies and scientists have released statements and studies showing the growing consensus on climate change science. A common objection to taking action to reduce our heat-trapping emissions has been uncertainty within the scientific community on whether or not global warming is happening and if it is caused by humans. However, there is now an overwhelming scientific consensus that global warming is indeed happening and humans are contributing to it.

http://www.ucsusa.org/ssi/climate-change/scie...

Rick Parry is a corporate tool, schmuck. Bush Mark II.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

miss_kitty's picture

"There are a substantial number of scientists who have manipulated data so that they will have dollars rolling into their projects."

Who? He needs to name five no, one and cite actual facts [the particular scientist he accuses of 'manipulating' data to show climate change] that helped him form his judgment.

Ape-Man's picture

Irresponsible media.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

fastfeat's picture

I'd give him the benefit of the doubt if he could name one.


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

That's what assholes like Perry remind of when they get pressed for pertinent details made up of only facts.

jakflorida32169's picture

Because no one in the media will challenge him!

I call it: The Rise of the Declarative Sentence.

Stand in front of a microphone, spout the most ridiculous assertions without any substantiation, and... it suddenly becomes God's word! It suddenly has merit!

But, as Daddy used to say, dog shit in a Tiffany box is still dog shit.


We're not going to get very far if you keep injecting logic into the conversation!

MacJr's picture

The Oxford Dictionary wishes to "refudiate" your father's Tiffany box claim.


Humpty Dumpty was pushed.

jakflorida32169's picture

:-)


We're not going to get very far if you keep injecting logic into the conversation!

Different Anonymous's picture
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Hey, he's got proof that scientists manipulate information for money. Got it directly from the doctors at the Tobacco Institute, who assure him it happens all the time.

Alerta_Alerta's picture

"There are a substantial number of scientists who have manipulated data so that they will have dollars rolling into their projects,"

Got some dox on that? Matey? Looks like you are just talking out of your arse for some bucks.

I would never vote for an anti science guy. FU Perry.

Edit: it's treason....hehehe. :)


Bite my shiny metal ass.
http://www.startalkradio.net/

stewartm0205's picture

continue to burn oil and send trillions to people who don't like us much. Or we should burn coal and cause the death of tens of thousands. We shouldn't try and find better solutions such as wind and solar power.

deistpaladin2's picture

I was wondering why scientists all over the world would cook up a hoax of this scale. All that grant money. Yeah, that's a lucrative pursuit that would justify an international conspiracy well funded enough to subvert the entire process of peer review.

Oh, and the rich and powerful wind and solar industry are behind it too. [/snark]

yakfitguy's picture

We all know how greedy those scientists can be. Why work on Wall Street and make millions when you can slog through the arctic taking ice core samples for a middle-class salary?

It's a no-brainer right?

Try facts Rick. They help you look smarter.


I don't believe in God. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life.
-Andrew Carnegie

BC's picture

Its all a big conspiracy.
The aliens have colluded with evil people who studied and got careers in climatology to take over the world.
The first phase is to have a global army of automaton climate scientists manipulate data to look like the Earth is warming due to human activity.
Phase two is to have solar panels and hybrid or electric vehicles implanted everywhere.
The aliens can't control fossil-fuel burning power sources, so once power is predominately generated by solar, wind and cars powered by batteries they will strike!!
So Slick Rick Perry isn't a nut from Texas. He isn't a corrupt politician with insane ideas to enrich his contributors and maintain an unsustainable system. He is an interplanetary HERO!
Only he can see through the conspiracy. He and Lord Monckton, who ironically looks like an alien.

yakfitguy's picture

Somewhere..on the internet, is a web page dedicated to that theory.


I don't believe in God. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life.
-Andrew Carnegie

metman's picture

Someone should remind Perry that gravity is "only a scientific theory" as well. Then persuade him that he should go jump off a 10 story building to prove them dastardly scientists wrong.

jakflorida32169's picture

It's that sudden stop at the bottom that gets you!


We're not going to get very far if you keep injecting logic into the conversation!

yakfitguy's picture

Well, we all know Issac Newton pushed that whole gravity thing for money. ;)


I don't believe in God. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life.
-Andrew Carnegie

Jeanne's picture

with one day of rest.


Jeanne

moraltrumpslegal's picture

"When objective NASA satellite data, reported in a peer-reviewed scientific journal, show a "huge discrepancy" between alarmist climate models and real-world facts, climate scientists, the media and our elected officials would be wise to take notice. Whether or not they do so will tell us a great deal about how honest the purveyors of global warming alarmism truly are."
http://news.yahoo.com/nasa-data-blow-gaping-h...

http://www.libertariannews.org/2011/07/28/new...

since you keep referring to a discredited article from a financial magazine, written by a LAWYER working for a conservative think tank.

So how many times are you gonna post that article from Forbes until you can begin to grasp the concept its author does not know what the fuck her is talking about?

I will get my scientific analysis from actual scientists, thank you very much.

Here is the kicker; if the scientists are "wrong" we end up with a cleaner planet (Oh, noes! that would be awful). If you and your lawyer friend are "wrong" we end up with an uninhabitable planet for humans. You apparently have trouble deciding what risk to take, which I find amusing...


CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"

Bill Lumbergh's picture

So the paid-by-the-corporate-polluters shill says "alarmist climate models" about 15 times in his short piece, but never defines what those models are, or if they are outdated and no longer in use. This tactic of quoting outdated models or using outdated numbers from 15 or 20 years ago is a core tactic of the climate deniers. Once this line of bullshit is debunked by actual science, what will the next denier shell game be?

jakflorida32169's picture

Am I reading that right? In the photo, in the lower right hand corner, just above the logo — POLITICS AND EGGS!

Is he at a chicken farm?


We're not going to get very far if you keep injecting logic into the conversation!

fastfeat's picture

cracking a few eggs heads.


"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."

---Southwest Airlines

Roninkai's picture

'Substantial Number' of Texan's 'Manipulating' Data

Geeba X's picture

Mr. Perry wouldn't know scientific fact if it bit him in the ass. Every time this fool opens his mouth I find it hard to imagine he has sense enough to spread butter on toast let alone be a governor.

Artist formerly known as gempei's picture

he didn't buy his post-high school grades from the nerd two floors his dorm room.

JohnnyBravo's picture

Yeah. Right.


NOBODY 2012

bmw 528's picture

Dumb redneck fascist digs political grave by declaring ignorance is bliss! Tune in tomorrow when Karl Rove says Rick who?


"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."

Robert F. Kennedy

FreeThought's picture

for some 130 years now making the big bucks! Wonder who's been paying them off all this time? The oil companies? Nah. Maybe it's garage inventors... no? Maybe it's the small business man down the street irking out a living selling alternative energy devices. Oh, I forgot, he just closed down last week.


Their homeworld was a place called Earth, located in an uninteresting part of the galaxy. They had an expression: pride goeth before a fall. Their pride was their undoing. I know. I was there....They did not listen, of course. Arrogant men never do.

BobDobbs's picture
eh?

you no makee sense.


---
what is worse, ignorance or indifference?

I don't know and I don't care!

CFAmick's picture

It's not a "cost." The money still exists, it's just not going into the coffers of the petrochemical industry.

That is literally the only downside to being wrong about climate change.

Spaghetti Monster's picture

... who probably shits in bed and kicks it out with his feet... addresses the drought and economy problems in his state with the 21st century equivalent of rain dances by mass prayer to a nonentity deity qualifies now to be a expert on global warming?

What he is an expert on is one of old Abe Lincoln's perspective... "you CAN fool some of the people all of the time." In retrospect those people he fools are just plain stupid.

BobDobbs's picture

until he produces a list of these scientists. Every member of the media needs to call him on this.
And btw, I'd like to see his long form BC. Not a copy, want to see the original.


---
what is worse, ignorance or indifference?

I don't know and I don't care!

Trantorian's picture

Not this minute, Trust him. It's substantial.


"Someday somebody related to some of these sufferers, these victims, these collaterally damaged souls, may try to kill you. And I have to tell you, I think you’ll have it coming." - Christopher Cooper

is a freaking pray for rain dance now is going to make pronouncements on the scientific method? Buh? Texas should be banned from offering candidates for national office.


---
what is worse, ignorance or indifference?

I don't know and I don't care!

VegasRage's picture

Gee I wonder if he'll have Philip Cooney as his choice for chief of staff of the Council on Environmental Quality.


Goodnight, Frau Blücher

yakfitguy's picture

A Christian Dominionist is not qualified to speak about science. They don't believe in science.

End of story. Next.


I don't believe in God. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life.
-Andrew Carnegie

Ugmo's picture

If you favor fallacious, salubrious, exaltation's you would vote for Romney.

yakfitguy's picture

No, but having a president with magic underwear would be interesting. I'm sure the secret service would have a laugh or two.


I don't believe in God. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life.
-Andrew Carnegie

Ugmo's picture

Science usually sucks when your a failure to accept it.

Ugmo's picture

A monkey poking at a keyboard can eventually get a D+ in science...

Ugmo's picture

Pray, pray, pray I hope to win the llotteryy.

cpinva's picture

on all those climate change books on the nyt's best seller list, ol' rick caught 'em by the short hairs!

you'll note he did not provide any actual names in his accusation, just unidentified "scientists". there was a good reason for this, to avoid him being sued for defamation of character. hopefully, at some point he'll be challenged on this in public, and asked to provide the names of all those scientists he claims are committing fraud.

vonBeavis's picture

Let's see your scientists and review their credentials . . . and employers.


Men are basically smart or dumb and lazy or ambitious. The dumb and ambitious ones are dangerous and I get rid of them. The dumb and lazy ones I give mundane duties. The smart ambitious ones I put on my staff. The smart and lazy ones I make my commanders.

in the WH. I thought we were finally making headway on putting this very dangerous right wing conspiracy to bed. Kinda like the birther BS. These righties just refuse to let things go, regardless of the evidence.

are the sciencetitutes who wrote bogus papers in order to collect the bounty offered by Exxon-Mobile for any paper debunking globl warming.

Rick Perry is going to probably be too slimy even for your average socioipathic GOPer.

Apparently we need a new website called "Perry-ism's" to track the unbelievably bad grammar of yet another Texas Politician. "They been changing for ever since the Earth was formed." Yeah, they been! And they gonna keep on a'changin' even while the people and fish can co-exist. Real proof that the complete dismantling of the education system in Texas, which ranks 47th in literacy and achievement test scores, started while Perry was still in "grammar" school. Or was it the infamous Fundamentalist Apostilistic home-schooling that gave this modern day "prophet" his unique take on the English language?


notfullyformed

The D student Gov Rick Perry says scientists "manipulated data" on global warming, then calls for a "prayer vigil for rain." I think it's easy to see who is dealing with reality and who is delusional. No question about it. Science over stupidty every time I say.


Woody McBreairty

LeaderofMen's picture

That sort of a statement from a man who just held a PRAYER VIGIL to his imaginary deity in Houston, and who said that the way to solve Texas's drought problem was to PRAY.

Both prayer events were utter failures. So, Texas continues to burn while Perry slanders actual scientists.

This is YOUR GOP in action. They are utterly incapable of leading. They hate science. They demand your attention on imaginary deities.

Elect this man to sit in the WH and your nation will collapse into a heap of white trash, gun-toting toothless hillbillies with the closeted gay governor of TX winking at your menfolk.

lewmanbubba's picture

"Yes, our climate has changed. They been changing for ever since the Earth was formed." and earth as you know is only 5,000 years old

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